Glennon Could Be Bucs’ Best Rookie QB
November 13th, 2013
When Bucs rookie Mike Glennon connected with known pass-catching weapon and JumboTron star Donald Penn for a touchdown on the first drive Monday night, Glennon tied the immortal Bruce Gradkowski for the second-most franchise touchdowns thrown in a season with nine.
Sleepy, leaky Josh Freeman holds the team mark at 10. Glennon has seven more games to play, so barring an injury or a complete and total meltdown, Glennon will become the Bucs’ rookie leader in touchdowns thrown by season’s end.
Now Joe has already touched on something today, if there is a new Bucs coach (no, Joe isn’t yet ready to bet his house that Bucs commander Greg Schiano will be fired), and that coach is an offensive dude, he more than likely will be allowed to pick his own quarterback. And Joe somewhat doubts said choice would be Glennon. Nothing against Glennon, but he is Schiano’s guy through and through.
Now Glennon, aside from sporadic throws, hasn’t yet shown an ability to throw downfield consistently, to stretch the field. His average per completion is less than 10 yards a reception, which smells more like a West Coast quarterback then a downfield thrower.
November 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
My biggest fear is that Schiano stays on as coach and because he is the most stubborn coach in the NFL says “Glennon is my guy” and drafts defense making the biggest bonehead decision which will misshape the Bucs franchise for the next 10 years.
November 13th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Too soon to say either way because he obviously has velocity and pop to his arm. I see him throwing deep and getting better but without the right scheme and weapons complementing him it’s hard to say.
Saints only have one real deep threat and Brees arm isn’t overly strong but the scheme always produces downfield throws and open receivers.
November 13th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Glennon looked Peyton Manning at he lne of scrimmge calling audibles Monday night. He’s gonna be good.
November 13th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
just as long as he does not break Freeman’s rookie record of 18 int and 6 fumbles
November 13th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
But he’s got great jazz hands!
November 13th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Glennon has to be able to throw down field accurately to remain the starting QB. His down field throws have been off the mark and many times underthrown. I don’t know if it’s an arm strength issues (I don’t think so), or an unfamiliarity/timing issue with WR’s. Regardless of the reason, that has to change if he wants a sniff at being our QB next year. However, his short game is good and he’s actually shown the mobility and wits to climb the pocket and gain some yards with his legs. He doesn’t force too many balls and utilizes his check downs (maybe too much). I was never a Glennon fan. I thought he was overrated in college and was pissed when the Bucs drafted him, but I have to give him a chance. It appears that Glennon works hard, has a good football I.Q, is competitive and is coachable. We all have to remember that he is still a rookie with just a handful of games played. I’m not sure what we have in Glennon, but if he can manage to develop into a Flacco type QB and we could put the right pieces around him, I wouldn’t be mad at that. We’ll see.
November 13th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
No matter draft position / Glennon / HC change or not, we should wait until the 2nd round in day two to draft QB. This draft is deep at QB and there will be at least two or three guys who get overhyped and one or two guys that slip.
Draft me a OT that will be on my line for the next 10 yrs or give me a stud pass rusher on day 1. Then get me Murrey, McCairn, or Mettenberger.
(Im sure I totally fd up all their names, but you guys know what who they are)
November 13th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
glennon is good and better than I thought but he will never be a top 10 qb and thats what you need to win consistantly. He will be brad johnson solid but we need to draft a qb!
November 13th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Glennon is a WCO QB. It’s obvious he’s very smart and picks up the nuances of the game quickly. It would not surprise me if we pass on a QB in round 1, take the likes of a Clowney or Watkins, and pick a QB with an early round 2 pick.
Lots of games left to decide where we will pick. Though I’m happy with the win against the Dolphins, our same issues were still present and nothing was ‘fixed’. We may win more games, but I’m willing to bet we’re still picking top 5 – probably top 2 or 3.
In summary, (A) I like Glennon but we need to draft another QB, (B) I think he plays well enough that the Bucs passing on a round 1 QB are greater than we think.
November 13th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Not saying that is what we SHOULD do, just think that is what will happen…almost a given if Schiano is still the HC.
November 13th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
@bucfanjeff & @tim
I agree with you both….there will be a very good QB prospect at the top of round 2…..and we can also trade down a couple of picks and get an OT or DL and have an extra 2nd round pick…..we don’t have to burn our highest pick on a QB especially if Bridgewater or Mariota are not available.
November 13th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
If Schiano stays we’ll get a high draft pick next year, too!
November 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
I would agree with you Tim if we are pick comes after the top 3 QBs (Bridgewater, Mariota, Manziel) otherwise you have to go QB. Although Clowney would be tempting if he is there but our history we would go with Beasley the Clemson DE. Vjax, Mike Wil and Sammy Watkins would be a nice Wr Trio too.
November 13th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
stanglassman if we draft another Clemson DE I will be in disbelief. Haven’t we had our fill of those?
November 13th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Anything that wipes the name, “Bruce Gradkowski” off the records books I support!
November 13th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Not saying Glennon is the savior of the franchise BUT I’m so sick of people like Duemig yelling about his 5.8 yds per pass! At a whopping 6.6 as of this morning’s stats, was none other than Tom Brady. So, that stat just needs to go away from all arguments. Now, his accuracy (lack of great WR play also) downfield is something to look at but geez, cut him some slack as he was tossed into a helluva situation! He has a nice presence at the line of scrimmage (read: NO happy feet) and I have WAY more confidence that he’ll complete a pass more than Freeman did.
November 13th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Not sure I’m comfortable using the metric of touchdowns as the key indicator in the “best rookie QB.” Wins or QB rating, maybe, but not just total TDs.
November 13th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Glennon has already proved he is a capable QB in the 6 games he has played. He will improve further with better overall play by his entire team. Glennon fits in well with the Bucs and I see nothing but success going forward.
November 13th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
He had 129 yards passing one td one pick what are we talking about here. Not nfl numbers
November 13th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
I would like go see more open receivers separating so Glennon doesn’t have to check down. Considering Jackson isn’t playing 100% and there isn’t another receiver or tight end on the team now that would start anywhere else in the league I have to give some props to Glennon.
No explosive players in the offense and a very predictable scheme it is impossible to say what the Bucs have in Glennon. I am tired of hearing that VJax is doubled. Brandon Marshall is doubled, so is Calvin Johnson. Those guys suck balls up, their hands are.like glue. Give Glennon weapons.like that or an offensive coach like Mike McCarthy or Sean Payton and then you can evaluate him
The Shiano-Sullivan offense is a run first offense. It has steadily improved now that offensive line is playing like they should have earlier in the year. They are just not a good passing offense, the receivers.are.particularly good route runners like Welker, Amendola and Colston. They aren’t fast and they aren’t physical. How do you expect your quarterback to excel in a slow developing primitive offense with no stud receivers or tight ends. Look at Brady’s production w Gronkowski back. Where would Drew Brees be without Jimmy Graham? Don’t you think Manning loves having a big tight end that gets open.
Look at Atlanta without Jones and White. SF without Crabtree. Ravens without Bolden. When a good QB loses those physical receivers that fight for the ball, these offenses struggle.
November 13th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
@Nybucsfan…. It’s all about the W. He got it done when he had to. Russell Wilson had terrible numbers against San Fran but he got the W. That’s all that matters in the long run.
November 13th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Stats wise, he’s the best rookie QB in the entire NFL…
November 13th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
@stanglassman
Manziel generally isn’t considered to be in the top 3 prospects. That usually goes to UCLA’s Hundley.
November 13th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Draft a quarterback and a coach.
November 14th, 2013 at 9:13 am
It’s time to solidify the QB position.the QB touches the ball every offensive play. That means he has more chances to effect the game. It also means the fans have hope and something to cheer about each and every offensive play. Do we not have enough self esteem to say we deserve this? Every decision means you give up the other choice, but don’t we deserve to be like a New Orleans, Denver, New England, fan smiling about their QB? Do Bucs fans always need to cross their fingers on every offensive play hoping against hope that the mediocre QB can somehow pull off that particular play. Too much finger pointing. I say it’s finally time for a Mariota/Bridgewater/Manziel to come to town. I like Glennon, but too many years of crossing our fingers for a QB to evolve and reach a potential. Having Mariota or Bridgewater along with Glennon sounds good to me. You know, we can always trade one and solidify another position that way as well.
November 14th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Oops meant to say finger crossing