Gerald McCoy > Ndamukong Suh
November 26th, 2013
Only desperate types continue to beat the drum that Gerald McCoy is a subpar player in the NFL. Virtually every out-of-town NFL coach that speaks weekly to the Bucs pen and mic club, virtually every Bucs player, virtually every Bucs coach, gushes over the play of McCoy.
Now in his fourth season in the NFL, GMC, despite the idiotic stunts Bucs defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan is in love with, has become an elite NFL defensive tackle if not the best in the game.
Playing Sunday on the same field as Ndamukong Suh, a guy who was drafted one slot ahead of GMC and who GMC forever will be compared to, GMC was better, per the analysis of Sam Monson of ProFootballFocus.com.
Winning the Battle of 2010
There was a lot of talk before the 2010 NFL Draft about which stud DT prospect – Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy – would be the better player at the next level. As it turns out it looks as if that draft has provided three stud 3-tech DTs in that pair and Geno Atkins, but in this game it was McCoy that outclassed Suh. The biggest difference between them, though, might not be in grade, but in how much help each had around him. Suh was one of six members of the Detroit front seven to grade in the green in this game while McCoy was joined only by LB Lavonte David for Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers only generated 16 total pressures all game, and McCoy was responsible for eight of them. He has the kind of quickness and strength to dominate linemen at this level and he has really been playing well this season. His lowest grade of the year so far was a +1.0 back against the Saints and this +8.8 represents a new career high.
Joe vividly remembers just a couple of weeks ago in the Bucs media room where Bucs icon Warren Sapp — eyes bulging out and mouth agape — was just drooling over GMC’s play against Seattle and Sapp flatly said in that game, GMC “couldn’t be blocked.”
Sapp went on to say that was one of the best games he’s ever seen a defensive tackle have in recent memory and that McCoy may be better than him.
Regardless, GMC is now in elite status in NFL circles.
Damn that Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik!
November 26th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Suh is a thug….would not have been a Bucaneer Man…..GMC’s development was slowed considerably by his injuries….and there is no doubt that he is practically alone on the line when it comes to top-tier talent….hopefully Spence will continue his development.
Its funny how I have left him out of the mix of top young talent on the Bucs….it feels like Spence isn’t a rookie….
November 26th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
Buccaneer Man…..
November 26th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
I have to admit, I am just being honest here, that the first year McCoy and Suh had I was bummed we did not get Suh… Now? I would not trade GMC for anyone. In addition to being the best DT in the game, McCoy is a class act and brings pride to the Bucs. Good job Rock Star.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
I hate comparing players like this because of the different philosophies of their respective teams. However, GMC is really blossoming into an impact player while Suh has seemingly plateaued. Put some talent around this guy and lets see who’s better.
It makes you wonder “what if” GMC hadn’t ben injured. Is he “dawg” enough now?!
November 26th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
GMC is a BOSS.
Extremely pleased to eat crow on his development.
Could it be that Schiano has developed him some?
Greg is a good coach, can’t wait for the stupid bilboards to come down. Ha!
November 26th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
He was blowing threw double team after double team in that game too.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
McCoy is the best in the NFL. Geno Atkins is second best, and in a distant third is Suh…
November 26th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
comon Joe, for better or worse Dom had no other choice but to draft McCoy. it all aligned for Dom to just make the obvious pick. if you remember AT THAT TIME we were so desperate for any good DT that we HAD to draft a DT. it just so happened that McCoy was the best one left so we drafted him. Do you really believe that if both Suh and McCoy were both on the board that we would have gone with McCoy? I seriously doubt that. having said all that, it looks like we got the better out of the two. McCoy is a damn good DT and Im glad he’s on our team. he has been dominant, I just hope he can stay healthy. we should resign him.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
It’s a shame the other top pics for the DL have busted or underachieved. There is no way of knowing just how good McCoy could be.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
McCoy is the real McCoy.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Fire the Rock-Star!
November 26th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
McCoy better be a Buc for life.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Could you imagine if had Sapp’s talent around him, especially Simeon Rice? He has only had an above average Micheal Bennett.
Somewhere Thomas 2.2 is crying in his mom’s house!
November 26th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
It’s clear that The Joes’ are smitten with The DirtStar GM…we get it. And he’s done some good things no question…but giving him credit for drafting McCoy is similar to giving Matt Millen credit for drafting Calvin Johnson. Mostly consensus if not ” no-brainer ” picks. Teflon Dom just went on the board as a 3/2 favorite to stay for 2014 IMO.
November 26th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
He had
November 26th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
what gets lost in the LJ INT for a TD was that it was McCoy you forced Stafford to get rid of the before he wanted to. McCoy blew through the line forcing Stafford to throw into what he thought was man coverage, which it turned out to be zone thus resulting in a pick 6. without McCoy’s pressure, Stafford most likely has enough time to hold on to the ball and make the correct read. LJ needs to give a big thank you to McCoy.
November 26th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Jon:
Yet for years (and still there are some simpletons) claiming Dominik blew that pick. So which is it? He gets trashed for bad picks but ignored for good picks?
Sorry to mess up your narrative.
November 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Gerald McCoy was dominant in that game. And frankly, I thought AC was as well. Both of them were held numerous times and I can only recall ONE maybe TWO holding calls on Detroit.
November 26th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Please bring back Broderick Thomas. He was the best. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I think we could get back to the Super Bowl with Broderick Thomas on the roster!
November 26th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
If u hit on the 3rd pick in the draft should u be rewarded all that much?
November 26th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
My goodness, Dominik hasn’t been perfect, but he gets credit for the GMC pick. Period. Stop with the excuses “Oh, it was the obvious choice” and “But Matt Millen took Calvin Johnson”…yeah, but Oakland passed on Calvin Johnson and Detroit took Suh over GMC, and while McCoy was slowed with injuries to start his career, he’s been better than Suh for almost two full seasons. His strength and speed is elite and makes McCoy a truly special player. Give the man credit where credit is due.
November 26th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
“Yet for years (and still there are some simpletons) claiming Dominik blew that pick. So which is it? He gets trashed for bad picks but ignored for good picks?”
He had a top 5 pick because his team sucked. There was a major need at DT. There were 2 obvious choices to everyone on the planet. One got taken, he took the other. When you’re in the top 5, it’s not rocket science. Does he want a cookie or something?
November 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
@thegreg
wel said
November 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
@Joe
Look at it this way, no one dogs GMs when 7th rounders get cut. There’s little expectation there.
So, it’s a huge credit if the pick turns into something (like Lorig and Watson, he did great there), but, no one is going to say they suck if a 6th or 7th rounder doesn’t make the team.
Conversely, with a top 5 pick, I don’t think you get too much credit for success, but, you open yourself up to massive criticism if the pick fails.
Fair enough????
November 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
That is correct Oil. #3 pick? You better get it right.
November 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
@ Oil
fair enough.
November 26th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Of course, I, too, am sorry to mess up anyone else’s narrative.
😉
November 26th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Does Dom get credit for signing Albert Haynesworth?
That was the dumbest move ever.
November 26th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
I remember the debate leading up to the draft. Who was better? Suh or McCoy? Mot people seemed to side with Suh. Even wishing the team would lose so they could be in a position to draft him. As it turns out, they are both good players, but GMC has been far less controversial and arguably the better player of the two.
It reminds me of this season. All the talk of the team being in a position to draft in the top two or three. It’s ok by me if the team continues to win. The draft is a crapshoot and it might work out for the best if the Bucs have a lower draft slot. It worked out ok in 2010.
November 26th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
thegregwitul , and blame where it is due. Like the 2009 draft, or Benn over Tate, or Page over Joseph, or Clayton over Jordan, or Lewis over Jimmy Graham, or Mike Williams over Aaron Hernandez…scratch that last one.
November 27th, 2013 at 9:42 am
It’s about time we are seeing the elite DT we drafted him to be. I judge how I see things and I wasn’t seeing it last year consistently nor at the beginning of the year.
I know earlier in the offseason he shredded 15lbs. He looks heavier. Maybe he was too light and started adding.