“Didn’t Want To Give Up That 40 Seconds”
November 25th, 2013Joe and every Bucs fan watched in agony as Mike Glennon took a late, seemingly needless sack with just under four minutes to go yesterday. The seven-yard loss pushed Rian Lindell’s field goal attempt back to 50 yards, which he missed (of course), and the Bucs retained their three point lead.
Now Joe’s not about to assume Lindell would have made the field goal if it were seven yards closer, but it still felt like a Glennon mental mistake there really hurt the Bucs.
Glennon didn’t screw up so badly, Greg Schiano explained after the game.
Schiano said Glennon took the sack intentionally, telling Schiano “I thought we didn’t want to give up that 40 seconds” by throwing the ball away and stopping the clock inside four minutes.
Schiano didn’t necessarily agree with Glennon’s thinking, but the head coach made the point that it was an example of how Glennon is always focused.
“The fact that he thinks that way, for a rookie, is very impressive,” Schiano said.
November 25th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Decision could go either way…..another example of how a missed field goal can make everyone second guess any play.
The field goal should have been made.
I agree that it is better that he deliberately take the sack than not be thinking at all and taking it….the past has shown that our 4 minute defense isn’t that good…..
There have been a couple of plays that I have seen Glennon run out of bounds instead of trying to pick up 3 or so yards….I don’t know if that is a lack of confidence in his running or trying to protect himself….he is a rookie and I expect some of these decisions will change with experience.
November 25th, 2013 at 10:18 am
I’ll take it….considering he’s better than the junkie fake that ripped this team for 8 million and ripped another for 3…
November 25th, 2013 at 10:18 am
@TBBF – that could’ve been mandated by the coaches that he take it out of bounds. Everyone knows who is backing Glennon up and nobody wants to chance somebody getting a chance to get a solid hit in that might bring Dan-O in
November 25th, 2013 at 10:20 am
In an odd way, I kinda like that, considering Detroit’s big offensive weapons and how fast they can get down the field, but at the time I felt the onset of my usual “Buc-ulcers”! The typical response is GET RID OF THE BALL, but it would’ve saved 40 seconds, and if Geno Smith can move down the field on us, then Stafford surely could too.
November 25th, 2013 at 10:21 am
This was my thinking when he took the sack. Every one and their mother believes that a kicker should make a 50 yarder indoors.
November 25th, 2013 at 10:25 am
My thoughts…”At least he didn’t stop the clock!”
November 25th, 2013 at 10:35 am
We’re nitpicking here. All things considered, the kid had a good game. A passer rating of 138.4 ain’t bad in anybody’s book. He’s still a rookie, 40 seconds versus 3 point field goal is hard to justify with 3+ minutes left on the clock. However, I have no complaint. Lindell probably would have missed at any distance!
November 25th, 2013 at 10:38 am
I have to kind of agree with his thinking there.
Another 40 seconds to Calvin Johnson is an eternity and the way the game actually played out, Im going to go ahead and assume Lindell would have still missed the shorter kick, would have given the Lions the ball back at the end albeit with only about 30 seconds and no timeouts.
All you have to do is go back a couple of weeks to the Dallas/Detroit game to see how that could have tuned out.
November 25th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Maybe when we play the Saints next we can get Jimmy Graham to pull the goal post over to the left so Lindell can make a field goal
November 25th, 2013 at 10:43 am
The picture in the article tells you everything you need to know about Glennon. He has the #4 overall pick (I think he was 4th, I know top 6) rushing him going for the ball and Glennon had him held off with one arm the ball up and his eyes down field. The kid is cold blooded.
I get ppl didn’t want him to take the sack but the kicker had just missed a 35 yarder so to think a 43 yarder would be a give me is crazy. And when you think about it he saved more than 40 seconds. He kept the clock running from the sack to the missed FG.
November 25th, 2013 at 11:00 am
I still don’t think taking a sack in that situation is a good move. Giving up valuable field position and giving the kicker a longer field goal attempt is doesn’t seem like a good trade off for 40 seconds of game time. The Lions had plenty of time left to score regardless.
November 25th, 2013 at 11:05 am
@BirdDoggers – If he doesn’t run that time off then we’re forced to get a first down after the interception instead of being able to run the clock out for the win.
November 25th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I thought that was what he may have been doing. Less time the better for bucs D , Detroit offense is dangerous and we were beat up , but I’m end held up. Good game bucs !!!
I agree with Lindell would have missed from anywhere. Is he gone yet!!!
November 25th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Bird Dogger,
Yeah, agree the field position deficit almost bit us, but my takeaway is that this kid has situational awareness.
November 25th, 2013 at 11:56 am
@ Patrick – love it man!
November 25th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Whoa, what game were you guys watching? Schiano defended him by saying the incompletion would have stopped the clock… but Glennon ran out of bounds! He still stopped the clock. It would have been decent play if he slid inbounds to keep the clock moving but he didn’t, he stopped the clock AND lost 7 yards. It was clearly a boneheaded play. Glennon played very well other than that play, but his decision on the play was a horrible one and anybody that thinks he did the right thing knows absolutely nothing about football.
November 25th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Picture told u everything on this kid. FOCUS… Dude had eyes down field while the DE was all over him… Love it.
November 25th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
@Brandon
What game were you watching? Sacks keep the clock running. He didnt run out of bounds, he was intentionally sacked.
You should know your stuff before spewing stupidity.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Patrick in VA Says
” If he doesn’t run that time off then we’re forced to get a first down after the interception instead of being able to run the clock out for the win.”
Not necessarily. You forget that the Bucs can extend plays instead of just running out the clock. An extra 5-8 seconds per play would have done the job. Even taking a safety would have been alright.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
My thinking was that we weren’t going to kick a FG at 43 yards anyway considering Lindell’s missed FG earlier. I thought we would run the clock down another 40 seconds and then attempt to pin them inside the 5 or 10.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
I’ve been saying Lindell sucks, but was told I was wrong. Most of the kicks he makes are barely between the uprights. Thankfully, Barth will return next year.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
@ Brandon,
over 130 rating.. u told me that he made bad decision.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Brandon… Really?
Re watch the play, ummm yea, you scolded them about something your clearly confused about.
You must be thinking about another play?
He took a sack in bounds man jajaja
November 25th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Don’t know who told you he didn’t suck.
We’ve all seen how how weak his leg is.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Lindell has been a problem since week 1.
That being said. I want Glennon behind center in 2014 with more weapons.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Then again if the Bucs had Barth all season long, they might still be stuck with Freeman. So maybe it was a good omen that Barth got hurt.
November 25th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Imagine
VJ, MJ, Watkins, Underwood(playing with confidence like he is now), and
Tim Wright.
Pretty beautiful.
November 25th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
We have seen this kind of picture before. Only with no arm blocking or looking down field. Just a deer in the headlights look and a 5 on his jersey.
I can’t remember anyone not asking why we kept Lyndell. I sure hope we don’t need him to win one of the next five games.
November 25th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
I wonder when he came up with that excuse while he was on the ground on on the walk over to explain it to coach.
November 25th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
I agree with bucs^^^^^