The Only Question Is, “When?”

October 24th, 2013

Joe can’t imagine a scenario in which Greg Schiano keeps his job. At 0-7 and not competitive, he’s doomed.

But when will Team Glazer make a move?

Tomorrow? At the end of the season? After the seemingly inevitable brutal beating in Seattle in 10 days?

Joe’s said previously that there is no logical reason to fire Schiano midseason unless the Bucs quit on the field. Did that happen tonight? Joe will have to look at the film, but there appeared to be some questionable efforts.

But outside of soothing the mob of fans and ex-Buccaneers that want Schiano ousted, Joe sees no purpose as long as the Bucs are trying. There’s nothing to accomplish by inserting Dave Wannstedt. Just play it out and hope to draft a franchise quarterback handpicked by a new head coach.

But Joe doesn’t make the call, of course. Team Glazer must decide whether they’re willing to endure another nine weeks of Schiano bashing from across the country.

132 Responses to “The Only Question Is, “When?””

  1. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Before the game’s over and you’re posting, lol. We are still in this one. There’s no quit with a Rutgers, I mean Buccaneer, football team.

  2. Andrew 1 Says:

    yall need to leave Schiano alone. hes an awesome coach.

  3. Buck Rogers Says:

    tonight

  4. BucFanForever Says:

    I think it is fair to say that Schiano got his first 6 wins last season with “rah’s team”

  5. Drew Says:

    I believe the Glazer’s won’t do anything because they have their Toes on the Line.

  6. Buck Rogers Says:

    sappppppppppp

  7. Patrick Says:

    I want to drink with Warren Sapp right now!

  8. Skelly Says:

    Please put this dude out of his misery. At this point, I don’t even think he wants to be the coach. Come on Glazers……

  9. Eric Says:

    Was that the smallest crowd at the end of the game ever?

  10. william Says:

    Lovie Smith Please!!!!

  11. 911bucs Says:

    Even the announcers at the end of are going crazy talking about the signs, field goal attempts. etc. No way schiano is here next game.

  12. Buck Rogers Says:

    they keep saying embarrasment……….glazers pull the trigger

  13. Buck Rogers Says:

    they keep saying embarrasment……….glazers pull the trigger

  14. Patrick Says:

    Make Wannstedt the interim. He led Miami to the playoffs twice. He ain’t that bad!

  15. Patrick Says:

    Alcohol sales skyrocket 200% tonight after this ass whooping

  16. Illuminati Says:

    Schiano’s not the quitting type, but he’s also a soul-searching kind of guy. I wouldn’t be shocked if he resigns.

  17. kh Says:

    When? How about right now.

  18. Macabee Says:

    When Schiano went on 4th and ten with that field position and with that much time left on the clock was a pure act of desperation. That was telling. Schiano knows that it is just a matter of time, maybe within the next 24 hours!

  19. Deminion Says:

    The players don’t want to play for him I cn tell I saw the look in their eyes

  20. Oahubuc Says:

    He’s embarrassing people who don’t even care about this team. The answer is now. This guy is an embarrassment. Warren Sapp is hopping mad. I done watching these fools. Nothing to play for. Fire. Him. Now.

  21. Architek Says:

    No sense in firing him and winning now. You will lose chips to lure a legit candidate .

    The question is what happens to Dominik

  22. Mr. Patrick Says:

    NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

  23. Buck Rogers Says:

    Schiano can fix this

  24. Eric Says:

    Only time Newton had a bit of discomfort was when he hit his finger on his own player on the sidelines.

    Panthers basically laughed in our faces the whole game. Smith was signing jerseys on the sideline.

    I’m struggling to recall a more monumentally embarrassing game.

  25. Adam L. Says:

    My prediction was by noon Friday.

  26. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    Lovie Smith please.

  27. Jason Says:

    Joe his in the hell can you constantly say you don’t see a reason why??? He needs to go. We know an interim isn’t the answer but the players don’t like him the fans don’t and who knows how much he’s holdi this team down. He has to go there isn’t one argument you could make for him to stay.

  28. MadMax Says:

    When? TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dom too!!!!

    Glazers, please show your dedication to what you own……or is this going to be another “zapatta”?

  29. PewterPirate Says:

    Let’s just put an end to the Bucgers! It’s time. It’s only going to get worse from here unless a move is made. No one is going to blame whoever steps in for this mess.

  30. @eric Says:

    Bring Lovie home…..

  31. kh Says:

    Dominik is gone, fire him too. Bring in a caretaker with long term interests in mind. Shut down Doug Martin and anyone else with a somewhat serious injury. Turn out the lights, the party is over.

  32. Deminion Says:

    Why would they keep him?

  33. Andrew 1 Says:

    panthers definatly rubbed our faces in it. just pisses me off.

  34. buc89 Says:

    Schiano has turned this team into the laughingstock of the nfl. We are now the Tampa Bay Suckaneers!! GO SUCKS!!!!

  35. kh Says:

    @Jason – seriously don’t understand Joe here either. Schiano has to go for the simple fact that he has to go. I don’t care if Wannstedt loses out, at least the circus won’t be focused on Schiano. Just let us suck in peace.

  36. BucsQcCity Says:

    Hang on you damn CHIRPERS!!

  37. Patrick Says:

    How can anyone say Dominick is a good drafter? It ain’t showing on the field. Have we gone anywhere in 5 seasons? That’s right 5 seasons…..he didn’t get here yesterday.

  38. MadMax Says:

    31
    13
    reverse them 13 31
    2013

    What a sign for a bad luck year 🙁

  39. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Come on Glazers, where is your Pride?

  40. joseph mamma Says:

    Lovie’s from Texas

  41. passthebuc Says:

    The first thing the Glazzzzzzzers must do is hire a president of football operations. They do not have the experience to hire the necessary pieces to make this a successful franchise. This has turned so ugly, i would bring in Lynch, Sapp and Brooks to run the team for the remainder of the year.

  42. MadMax Says:

    Glazers, PRY MIKE ZIMMER FROM CINCY!!!

    HC/DC in the same package 😉

  43. BamBamBuc Says:

    Joe, it doesn’t matter if we wait. What happens if Schiano stumbles on 4 wins and we lose that draft pick? If he’s here, it’s not like he’s going to lay down and quit fighting for his job. It’s equally likely we lose that draft choice by pure chance with Schiano as without. Get rid of him now. I would hate to see him get competitive and fans start saying “look how much he’s progressing, give him more time”. We know his ceiling, and he needs to go.

  44. MadMax Says:

    And I mean at the end of the season about Zimmer…..use whoever for coach unless you fire dom!!

  45. buc89 Says:

    fire schiano tomorrow. Hire any crackhead off the street. Even a chimp with downsyndrome could coach better than this guy

  46. canadianbuc Says:

    So excited for Schiano’s presser

  47. gotbbucs Says:

    I can almost guarantee that draft position will not play into whether the Glazers fire Schiano mid-season or not.

  48. Westsidebucsfan Says:

    #fireschiano

  49. Justin Says:

    What has happened to our Bucs? Just pitch a tent over RJS

  50. MadMax Says:

    Since the nfl is changing, thats why Ive proposed a “Pinks” scenario (for those whove ever watched drag racing show pinks)

    When teams are winless, they get to pick a rookie draft pick from the other team if they win, and the other team just gets to enjoy a win. It eliminates tanking and shelving!!!

  51. Bobby Says:

    @Eric… “I’m struggling to recall a more monumentally embarrassing game.”

    It was embarrassing but how about the 45-0 halftime score playing Atlanta 2 years ago?

  52. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Glazers may be waiting for the investigation to end in hopes of not paying him.

  53. Eric Says:

    This guy isn’t stumbling on any wins.

    He’s going 0-16.

    The thing I’d be thinking if I owned the team is can I live through the total humiliation of 0-16 whereas Wannstedt or whoever might win one or two, although its doubtful.

    The guy from Rutgers or Wannstedt. Absolute horror show of a situation.

    No way out. The doomsday scenario has arrived.

  54. Westsidebucsfan Says:

    Passthebuc is right. The owners also deserve the blame. They can’t run a football organization at all!!! They are almost as bad as Al Davis!

  55. j.a. Says:

    Now, now, now!

  56. Splengo Says:

    Schiano says not to worry. Tonight was just a warm-up for the a$$ whupping that we’re going to put on the Seahawks next week.

  57. Illuminati Says:

    Ian Rapoport and Mike Silver saying Bucs sources indicate Schiano will not be fired tomorrow.

    Who knows about Saturday, though . . .

  58. MadMax Says:

    Great FN POINT Bonzai!!!! I forgot about that 🙂

  59. MadMax Says:

    @Splengo, thats the ONLY game I want us to win if we could have only one!! But I know we wont….

  60. IcarsuGoodman Says:

    Don’t worry guys. This team is gonna win games. They might be board games or video games, but they’re going to WIN GAMES!

  61. kh Says:

    Lord help us in Seattle, I can’t even imagine what the point spread is going to be, it will be Jaguar-esque no doubt.

  62. Mr. Patrick Says:

    TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT

  63. gotbbucs Says:

    The schemes are in place and the coordinators would still be here so no matter who takes over in the interim the main reason we are losing would stil be intact. Square pegs don’t fit in round holes and this staff hasn’t learned that.

  64. BamBamBuc Says:

    Who says Schiano would win anything? I said stumble upon wins… Meaning maybe Revis wants to win bad enough he pulls off a pick 6 or GMC pulls off a sack/fumble out of sheer frustration and anger and desire to win. Schiano can’t coach a win. Either way, the chance of a few wins by sheer fluke is just as much there with Schiano as any interim guy…

  65. Trox Says:

    This team is very much in the running for the #1 overall pick. There is no way they can fire Schiano after the season and jeopardize that very rare opportunity.

  66. buc89 Says:

    Schiano’s hair is lookin awfully grey isn’t it? LOL

  67. MadMax Says:

    @gotbbucs………fire them all but Dave, let them coach themselves….at this point, whats to lose?

  68. Eric Says:

    Do they have any plays besides the heave ho to Jackson and the two yard outlet pass to the running back?

    My God.

  69. Eric Says:

    We ain’t even capable of sheer fluke.

    The other team is laughing their heads off during the game! Acting like its their home game!

    I can only imagine what the freakin Seahawks are gonna do.

    We’re in for a long rebuild. Just pray they get somebody that knows how to do it. Gonna have to totally blow it up and start from scratch.

  70. kh Says:

    0-7
    1-12
    7 straight home losses, first time since 1976.

    At Seattle next week.

    🙁

  71. NJBucsFan Says:

    When ever it is it’s 2 yrs too late

  72. Warthog Says:

    “But when will Team Glazer make a move?

    Tomorrow? At the end of the season? After the seemingly inevitable brutal beating in Seattle in 10 days?”

    … why wait until tomorrow?

  73. Bobby Says:

    You guys can rag on me if you want but if I were the Glazers I would trade Vincent Jackson before the trade deadline. I would use the draft picks to go after a #1 receiver in the draft. I’ve seen too many drops and too much quit in V-Jax. He is also way too slow to breakaway once he catches the ball. How many times has he been run down from behind? He’s 30. We have way too many other needs and this season is done. Get a first round pick for him and get QB and WR in the first round. Get a young stud WR just like a young mobile QB like Bridgewater. Let them grow together. It’s inevitable anyway, Jackson is slowing down. Trade him while he’s healthy and has value. The Chargers seem to be doing OK without him.

  74. Illuminati Says:

    Whatever you know you’re going to do eventually, you should do immediately.

    If the Glazers have seen enough, they should fire Schiano tomorrow.

    But then, they still needed a lot of convincing to move on from Freeman, so who knows.

  75. sunshineben Says:

    anyone that says Mr. Schiano is a good nfl coach is NOT PAYING for bucs season tkts.

  76. MadMax Says:

    I agree Eric, Nuke the FK out of it…..and force Revis to renegotiate or he’s gone too!

  77. Tampabaybuctfan Says:

    Well, I’ve finally changed my mind….I thought like Joe that it serves no purpose to fire Schiano mid season.
    Watching tonight…I believe it looked like Raheem’s team that gave up on him. I didn’t see the tackling or intensity.
    Schiano has lost this team and all of the negative focus is on him.
    Firing Schiano will change the story and make it all about next year…which it should now be.
    So, I’m now on board…..Fire Schiano now!!!

  78. Sir P Says:

    Where’s that Mike Glennon mob tonight? Lol counted 5 balls thrown entirely too high and another 3 that were caught and ya definitely not as bad as Freeman from Monday though.. Freeman can atleast throw a bomb along the sideline in bounds and not 10 yards out of bounds.. Great play on 4th down throwing it out of bounds too accomplished so much.. Dirk Koetter or Ken Whisenhunt for head coach and draft Hundley!

  79. MadMax Says:

    @Bobby, Ive been posting all over here with the same idea of trading VJax….lol

  80. BamBamBuc Says:

    Then make the change now. If fluke is impossible and total blow up is our only shot, bring on the interim. I’d rather lose knowing change is inevitable than dealing with Schiano 9 more games…

  81. Bobby Says:

    Agree. The only way to save the morale of the players and the fans is to blow this thing up NOW! Fire not only Schiano but Sheridan, Sullivan and the whole bunch. Keep Cox. He’s turning David and Foster into the dynamic duo. No one else shows enough promise to keep.

  82. Bobby Says:

    @MadMax…I’d do it in a heartbeat if I were the Glazers.

  83. BihPR Says:

    Trade VJAX for a first round pick ? Theres no chance Bucs can get more than a 3rd round pick for him.

  84. Eric Says:

    I’m not all that sure any big time coaches watched that and consider this a huge plum of an opportunity.

    Absolute train wreck.

  85. Tampabaybuctfan Says:

    You have to fire Schiano to change the focus of the media, fans and players toward next year….the season is lost…its time to develop our young players and see who will make this team next year. The veterans will be fine.
    Unfortunately….this all comes down to LVDs penalty in game one….that started the downward spiral.

  86. MadMax Says:

    @Bobby, Im with you on Cox……

    @Bihpr, a 3rd replaces the 3rd we lost in the Revis trade….and IM ALL FOR IT!

  87. Buqsfan Says:

    “We can beat them” says the 1976 Buccaneers.

  88. BihPR Says:

    Bucs should trade Darrell Revis to the San Francisco 49ers for a First Round pick. We shouldn’t be paying a player a million per game while we go through rebuilding.

  89. Rahb Says:

    Demote Greg to MRSA Locker room sanitation apprentice! DO NOT FIRE SCHIANO! Thats too good for him.

    Give him the Freeman Smear Campaign Treatment Until he QUITS!
    (Then you won’t have to Pay him)

  90. Andrew 1 Says:

    I also agreed with Joe before this game, but after tonight… its time.

  91. Tony Says:

    @Sir P

    Get over it. Kid was asked to throw over 50 times against a nasty defense with an injured offense…still hit 30, which is still fewer than the number of incompletions Freeman had a few nights ago.

  92. Adam L. Says:

    You have to fire Schiano for no other reason than to show that you actually care about your team.

    NOVEMBER 11 – 1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE LAST HOME BUCS WIN.

  93. Tampabaybuctfan Says:

    @BihPR

    49ers don’t have the cap space…very few teams do.

  94. CrBUC Says:

    This joke of a coach has to go! Are you kidding me?!?! I’m embarrassed to wear my Bucs gear these days. Every time I have to explain to people why I still believe and cheer each game… I don’t even care who they chose!
    Change = Respect to the fans!!!!

  95. Buqsfan Says:

    Maybe the Glazers tried to fire him, but he had them thrown out with Dexter Jackson and those spying kids.

  96. Macabee Says:

    If the Glazers are smart they won’t fire Schiano at all and pay him for 3 years. You do it like it’s done in the corporate world. You demote him and humiliate him into resigning. His position isn’t guaranteed, his salary is.

    You give Schiano the same job that Jimmy Raye has on the defensive side of the ball. You demote Schiano to Senior Defensive Assistant reporting to the Defensive Coordinator. Doesn’t matter whether it is done mid-season or at the end of the season – You hire a new coach at the end of the season or make Dave Wannstedt or Butch Davis Interim HC if he is let go before the season ends. Schiano is proud and arrogant, he will resign.

    At the end of the year, fire everybody except Bob Bostad, Byran Cox, and Earnest Byner. Then start over by hiring a HC with real NFL experience and get an OC that will play an up-to-date offense – one that uses TEs and Slot Receivers. Simple!

  97. Tampabaybuctfan Says:

    Glennon didn’t lose that game tonight….I think many pick on Glennon because they were either Freeman fans or hate Schiano or both.
    If you look at Glennon’s play objectively….he has done pretty well for a rookie…managing the game and limiting mistakes.
    Our defense has weakened significantly the last 3 games.
    I don’t know if he is our answer going forward…but we’ve got one hell of a backup….young, cheap and capable.

  98. MadMax Says:

    I’ll have to admit thats the first game I sat (through 3 quarters) absolutely emotionless….even through the few bright spots when we were still in it.

    Gave up at the 4th Q because I just couldnt take anymore pain.

  99. passthebuc Says:

    I’m suggesting that we re-name the Pirate Ship,

    “The S.S. Minnow”

    Because it like the Minnow is lost at sea.

  100. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Glazers may wait to fire Schiano until after next week’s game in Seattle. Would you want your interim coach’s first game in charge be against the Seahawks?

  101. ClassieFreddieBlassie Says:

    If I’m a Glazer right now, coach is gone. For me the big question is Dominick… Now or at the end of the season, sohe can save some face if nothing else? Wannstedt is interim and the rest of the season is played out for draft position. I just can’t figure out a scenario where Schiano keeps his job past noon on Friday. And I would strongly listen to offers for V-Jax at this point. I really, really like him as a player, but if we could get a 3rd/4th rounder for him (2nd if we are dealing with the Raiders or Redskins) I’m pulling the trigger. At that point, which QB is it, Bridgewater, Boyd or Mariota?

  102. MadMax Says:

    @Macabee, spot on….thats business 102

  103. MadMax Says:

    Does it really matter Patrick? What part of “Season is over” do you not understand?

  104. Patrick Says:

    ^Lol at the idiots who want to trade Vincent Jackson

  105. BamBamBuc Says:

    Glennon threw 7 passes into the hands of the Panthers. Just because their DBs have the same WRs coach that we do doesn’t mean Glennon is good. More dropped INTs than dropped receptions. Of course it’s hard to drop passes when they’re 2 yards over your head…

  106. MadMax Says:

    Hell no to Boyd ClassieFreddie, ugh, thats the 2nd coming of freefree.

    Im going O line, then try to snare Blake Bortles 😉

  107. Brian Says:

    Joe, you are so spot on with me. Ever point you just made, I have made to others. I gave the coach ever chance, there were other issues beyond just him. However, at this point the horse must be put down. The question is whether sending it to the glue house now is better for the team/origination now or at the end of the year. Of course, if we wait the players will start to truly quit. If we put down the horse now, they will see they could be next if not playing hard. I am sure we all noticed again, we were in the game at half time. After, the other team made adjustments, we made none. Not as obvious this week as others but still. It is over. I can will be JACKED up again next year. Is there a rehab clinic out there somewhere?

  108. MadMax Says:

    Lol at the idiots @Patrick who want to hang onto players on the downslide, during a winless season that is over, when things are about to blow the FK up, and theres still some trade value there 😉 But try again if you want to keep going that winless route….

  109. Illuminati Says:

    @ Sir P

    No rookie QB has been asked to throw as much as Glennon has in his first four games. Ever. In the entire history of the NFL.

    In his first three games, Glennon had already set the record for pass completions by a rookie QB, and had tied Luck for most TD passes by a rookie QB in his first three games.

    Most organizations ease their rookie QBs into the game. With Glennon, it’s been a complete trial by fire. Considering the demands placed on Glennon already, he’s made relatively few major mistakes.

    It’s like you’ve never even seen a rookie QB play football. Or, maybe you’re just a Freeman nard-swinging troll, who knows.

    Glennon ain’t the problem. If anything, he’s one of the few bright spots on this team.

  110. Chrispy0515 Says:

    It’s now official: the team has now quit on Schiano and unless he is terminated immediately it’s only going to get uglier every week!

  111. k1ngadroc Says:

    TEDDDDDYYYY TEDDDDDYYYY TEEDDDDDYYY

  112. MadMax Says:

    Glennon is forced to operate from the pits of schiat-ano HELL!

  113. Snook Says:

    7 down. 9 to go. On the march to 0-16!!!!

    #1 or #2 pick in the draft. Its gonna suck but it’ll be worth it.

  114. PRBucFan Says:

    Exactly Tony, TBBF, and Illuminati

    JB is a bitter Freemanite or rather a “Freeman nard-swinging troll” just as you suggested Illuminati

    He has the audacity to try and hate on Glennon in favor of Free about overthrown passes of all things?

    When Freeman is the master of overthrown passes?

    Didn’t Freeman just have a historical game in terms of overthrown passes?

    Was it 16?

    I”ll take 5 over 16 anyday.

    And did someone mention dropped interceptions?
    How often throughout Free’s years here did he also throw the ball into defenders hands only for them to drop it? Too often and it happened quite a bit on Monday as well.

    And TBBF it is way too early to tell either way what he’ll be in this league.

    Regardless of what he shows though, I still want Mariota or Bridgewater in the draft.

    I think it’s impossible to pass on them. Maybe Mariota a little more.

  115. MadMax Says:

    @Snook, where you been?

    It’ll be worth it as long as dom or shitano arent behind it.

  116. MadMax Says:

    @Snook, where you been?

    It’ll be worth it as long as dom or schiano (oops on the “crapper remark” on spelling shc-iat-ano), so its “awaiting moderation”.

  117. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Illuminati Says
    “Glennon ain’t the problem. If anything, he’s one of the few bright spots on this team.”

    Glennon isn’t the only problem…but he IS one of them. Every pass over 20 yards is overthrown. The ones under 20 yards were close to being picked off several times. He had one good drive at the end of the 4th qtr. Actually, it nearly ended in a pick.

    He’s been lucky so far because there isn’t much tape on him. It will change as each game comes.

    If he could complete some of those long passes maybe peolle would buy into him more. And throwing the ball away on 4th down?????

  118. Architek Says:

    Just think draft!

  119. PRBucFan Says:

    The game was over anyways it would have made no difference lol.

    A prettier loss?

  120. PRBucFan Says:

    He’s less of a “problem” than our previous one lol

  121. Architek Says:

    @Bonzai,
    How in the hell can you be overly critical of the rookie who’s playing leaps and bounds better than his predecessor?

    Not staring down WRs, progressions, moving and looking up the field. He makes rookie mistakes but he will get better!

    I’m proud of him given the circumstance and how much he’s being asked to throw. We saw Monday what the alternative is and was – or did we forget so soon?

  122. Illuminati Says:

    Wow, the solution is so simple.

    Since our defensive brain trust of Schiano, Sheridan, and Davis have now decided that we will give up 31 points every game, all we have to do is score 34 points every game and we win! Every time!

    Wait, though. In one of Schiano’s first pressers as head coach, he emphasized how hard it is to sustain drives in the NFL. So hard, in fact, that taking wild shots downfield is more important than, say, running on 2nd-and-1, because getting a first down is apparently a futile, hopeless effort. After all, no one can be expected to put a long drive together in the NFL.

    Hmmm. Maybe I don’t know enough about football. Because I’ve always labored under the misguided notion that first downs will get you progressively closer to the opponent’s goal line, which is where you eventually score.

    Schiano’s overarching football philosophy is driving this team into the ground. I have no idea whether or not Mike Sullivan is or could be a good OC, because I have no idea the kind of constraints he is operating under.

    Here’s a thought: Let’s replace Schiano with Wannstedt tomorrow and see what happens. It ain’t gonna be any worse.

  123. Architek Says:

    PRBucfan,
    I am really thinking about the Oregon QB – he looks special. I think Glennon is going to be good but these youngsters can be really special.

  124. PRBucFan Says:

    And most of the time rookie Qb’s don’t play like Russel Wilson lol.

    Our offense has been more productive than it was our first 3 games that’s for sure.

    Atleast we don’t have nothing but 3 and outs.

  125. PRBucFan Says:

    Architek I agree.

    I think Mariota has the potential to surpass Bridgewater.

  126. Architek Says:

    @Illuminati,
    Funny things is the Bucs defensive play calling is atrocious. If you watch carefully you can always predict the stunt and the zone schemes are weak. Play man 1st and 2nd downs and then play soft zones on 3rd and long – just more stupors from a unsuccessful staff.

    Not to mention stunts on a mobile qb and giving him running lanes. What happen to gap control and funnel to help and edge setting or containment?

  127. Architek Says:

    Having Glennon as a backup next year and a young franchise qb is a great situation.

    I’m really watching this overpaid and overly hyped OLine (penn and Joseph) getting bested too much for their salaries. I wouldn’t mind upgrades there, especially Penn…he talks better than he plays these days

  128. bucthis Says:

    If the Buc’s pick 2nd in the Draft, will be interesting if they Pick a franchise QB or Clowney – might be dependent on how Glennon develops….hearing some good and bad things about Clowney – most good..eg best defensive player 21st century , Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White like impact…If this is true, he might be the one player you take over a franchise QB..

  129. MTM Says:

    Everyone expects the same knuckleheads that hired Schiano to immediately fire him. The Glazers are trying to figure out how to have Dominick fire Schiano and let himself go in the process. Gutless at this point.

  130. StillaFan Says:

    I have to disagree with you Joe, There is a VERY good reason to fire this coach mid-season…The Fans! And fans=money. They have to do something to show they care about this mess. That they care how poorly we as an organization are being viewed across the country. And to the players they have spent 10s of millions of dollars on!

    Ownership has pride too. I don’t think they like being talked about this badly day after day. I had the highest of hopes for Schinao, I really did. But it’s clear that he and the largest coaching staff in the league simply aren’t getting it done.

    What’s it say when you know this, and continue to do nothing?

  131. bucstop.com Says:

    Joe, the reason is, its embarrassing!
    The team isnt going to start winning 5 in a row under Wandstedt, nor will the Glazers ponder keeping him for next year even if they do win.

    But the fire schiano signs, the mess, it looks bad for us.

    get it over with. start the search now, let someone run it , give the players a break from this dude.

  132. flmike, is back... Says:

    Fire Schiano, hire Ken Whisenhunt, Mike Zimmer or David Shaw and draft Marcus Mariota