Schiano Survives Reported Glazer Meeting
October 27th, 2013
“Don’t worry, boss. We’re going to shock the world in Seattle. Trust. Belief. Accountability.”
Maybe Greg Schiano picked up the check? Perhaps he was forced to eat cold linguini? Little is known of the Friday lunch activities of the leader of the New Schiano Order and Team Glazer.
Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer reported that Schiano met with the Glazer family, the Buccaneers owners, on Friday. Afterward, Schiano reported to the Buccaneers locker room that he was still the Tampa Bay coach.
Joe wonders about the last part. It paints a bizarre potential picture. Did Schiano tell the team he got a big vote of confidence from ownership? Or did the head coach tell the team he remains head coach but every player’s and coach’s job is on the line?
Regardless, Joe can only imagine what message Team Glazer might have delivered Schiano.
Joe suspects it went something like this. “The turnaround must swift and strong, otherwise you’re out.”
October 27th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
F’king Boooooo!
Damn u Glazers, damn u…
October 27th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
What a joke
October 27th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
The Glazers see the same thing all of us, the players and the media sees…a frustrated fanbase, underperforming players and failed coaching.
They are not blind….they will fire Schiano….probably after the Seattle game…why send a new coach in to that rattlesnake pit.
October 27th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
The Glazer’s need to get the fans back on board. Keeping Schiano is a mistake. The bucs need a massive house clean from top to bottom. Surely the Glazer’s realise that?
October 27th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Making it sound like there’s a chance that Schiano will still be next season. It’s no longer a question of “if” but rather “when”. This team has not looked competitive in weeks, and he’s turned this team into a laughing stock. To me, the ONLY possible way Schiano keeps his job is if he turns this team back into a competitor and finishes with 5-7 wins and ends things off on a winning streak. Unless he can get some momentum and show that this team still has promise heading into next season to be a contender, he is gone. But oh, we wouldn’t want that. That would ruin our chance at a decent draft slot, right?
October 27th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
The only side that talks is Schiano and he’s full of it. I trust the Glazers that they’ll do what’s right for the fanbase
October 27th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
If we lose next week he’s out of here
October 27th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
I don’t feel sorry for the Glazers….but I have some empathy for their situation….as most of us…they probably had high expectations going into the year….they opened up their wallets buying up tickets & bringing in high priced players…they are spending a bundle on coaches.
If there is anyone left that has a sliver of hope that Schiano will turn it around…its the Glazers.
Soon,like it has for us, that flicker of hope will go out and then they’ll make their dreaded move.
October 27th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
What is worse? Lose the team or lose the fans. You need both. So lose the coach.
October 27th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Ok, at what point do they give us fans something to hang on to? So they loose in Seattle by 20 plus, then on #99 night prime time Monday get run out of the RayJay? I know about the draft picks, BUT We don’t have or 3rd for Revis and 6th for Carimi. Change is needed, Mr. Schiano and his bully ways do NOT work in the NFL and GROWN MEN. It is VERY hard to see former Bucs that were not ” Buccaneer Men” doing well other places. I hate the argument that NO coach would come here because they fired Schiano. Schiano has been nothing but a stubborn, classless, Bill Belichick wanna be from day 1. They have spent MORE money the last 2 years for free agents then the past 10 years combined. This was one of the BIG problems Gruden had with ownership. This jack@$$ needs to go back to Jersey.
October 27th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
“you have to beat Seattle next week or we have to make the move.” -Joel Glazer
October 27th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
“Perhaps he was forced to eat cold linguini?”
LoL… I just wanted to you know that I really enjoy & appreciate your humor Joe.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
“What me worry?!” Greggy Schiano as Alfred E. Newman
Come on Breaking Amish Boys…flush this muddy bowl.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
How many great coaches have been fired because their team was sucking at the time only to come back somewhere else as a genius.
Glazers know this.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
I ‘m willing to risk the fact that Greggy might develop his genius elsewhere. Like now..
October 27th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
“They have spent MORE money the last 2 years for free agents then the past 10 years combined.”
Robbie_G …What money on who and where? Revis, Goldson, Jackson, E. Wright, and Nicks. Okay I got ya now.
Now let me ask you this, what kind of return have they got from the Nicks, Wright and Goldson signings?
Answer : nada zilch zip and noting but BS.
They need to shell out BIG TIME money for a REAL coach. A big namer and the fans will have faith in them as owners again. If they go cheap in the coaching area. The fans won’t return anytime soon and tickets sales will drop in 2014 to an all time low. This team will be doomed for the next forever years after that, because some of the good players they have now are not getting any younger. Get a crappy coach after Schiano and brace yourself fans for about another 10 more years of losing.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
A Joel Glazer quote from 2006 :
“Mediocrity will never be standard for the Buccaneers”
You tell me is he just talking out of his ass or what?
October 27th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
Glazers are trying to figure out how not to have to pay 2 head coaches at the same time like when Gruden got fired. In life, you usually have to pay for your bad choices
October 27th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
Also, if Schiano brings back Doug Martin or Mike Williams too soon before they are ready, just to try to save his job, the team should revolt
October 27th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Fan base Fan base fan base they are loosing more everyday
October 27th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
They probably asked him to resign (RELIEVING GLAZERS FROM HAVING TO PAY HIM)
Just to give him the opportunity to do the ethical thing of admitting he does not deserve to be a Head Coach nor receive any compensation as a Fraud.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Buc1987, I agree to a point, but V Jax is a home run, Revis is one of the best ever, but THIS coach refuses to use him and Goldson Properly. big name, but had an NFL pedigree. Mike Zimmer, Adam Gase, Pep Hamilton, David Shaw, or Greg Roman are some that would make a good choice. To overpay for an old school Cower would not be smart.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
When a Coach cannot coach to the strength of his players there is a major problem. It seems Schiano is trying to force players to play his way.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
“Mr. SCHIANO.
We are paying a rather handsome amount. It’s obvious that this isn’t working out, and you are not providing what you promised.
Here are your options. We fire you now. We co-operate fully with the player unions investigation. They prove you are guilt of releasing player medical records.
Contract in null and Void.
No more Money.
Or, you continue to coach this team until the seasons end.you keep doing what you are doing. Rookie QB and RB. No unnecessary risk to skill players. Lots of 3rd stringers getting playing time.
You do understand what we are saying, don’t you?
At the end of the season- you are released, but with all your contract money. ”
Meybe it went like that
October 27th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
To be fair, Buc1987, “Totally sucking” is not the same as “Mediocrity”.
October 27th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Greg, well said sir!!!!!!
October 27th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Without emotion I say let it play itself out. With emotion I say fire em’all.
October 27th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
There will be no turnaround to worry about. This team started fairly talented but very thin. As feared, injuries have taken their toll. Mike Williams hasn’t been able to get downfield at all the past 3 games because of his hamstring. Now we don’t even have a second receiver and V Jax seems banged up. No real tight end, no Carl Nicks, Doug Martin is done for the year or better be.
Our best defensive back is still not 100% and is rarely used as an Island. The other corners are laughable. Our dominant d-lineman that many rave about has around 2 sacks maybe. Claibourne has been disappointing and everyone else on the line is just bad. Our second safety is ????? with Dashon hobbled.
Throw in very poor coaching and there is no way we won’t get a number 1 or 2 pick. The question will be, by then will anyone even care.
October 27th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
@csidedave
I agree with everything you said, however I’m gonna cut Clayborn some slack because its hard to get sacks when you are continually dropping back into pass coverage.
October 27th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
If I thought I understood this mess it would scare the f@*#! Outta me to think that I actually understood it.
October 27th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
@ Mr. Patrick. I agree with your point on Clayborn.
I would imagine the players share the same hopelessness by now.
October 27th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Greg Smithwick Says:
October 27th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
“To be fair, Buc1987, “Totally sucking” is not the same as “Mediocrity”.
Ah ha now I see you got my point then. LOL
October 27th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Mr. Patrick,
If the Glazers are smart they won’t fire Schiano at all and pay him for 3 years. You do it like it’s done in the corporate world. First you ask him to resign. If he refuses, you demote him and humiliate him into resigning. His position isn’t guaranteed, his salary is.
You give Schiano the same job that Jimmy Raye has on the defensive side of the ball. You demote Schiano to Senior Defensive Assistant reporting to the Defensive Coordinator. Doesn’t matter whether it is done mid-season or at the end of the season – You hire a new coach at the end of the season or make Dave Wannstedt Interim HC if he is taken down before the season ends. Schiano is proud and arrogant, he will resign.
At the end of the year, fire everybody except Bob Bostad, Byran Cox, and Earnest Byner. Then start over by hiring a HC with real NFL experience and get an OC that will play an up-to-date offense – one that uses TEs and Slot Receivers. Simple!
October 27th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Just our luck Bucs will beat Seattle lol
October 27th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
I don’t TRUST the Glazers ANYMORE. I’m calling them Culverhouse 2.0 from now on. Us old Buc fans have been through this sh!t before. Bring in big name players to sell tickets and who cares if the team wins. We sold tickets and made money. I don’t trust them. Thanks for the Super Bowl and all the money they spent to get the Bucs there. I’m 43 yrs old now. I might see another Bucs SB before I die, but I doubt it. Maybe another 30 years to go before I see another one. I’ll be 73 then. TBBF you might not be around. Sorry buddy if that sounds harsh, but these owners have me perplexed. They got rid of Gruden for this SH!T? OMG!
They got lucky with the Dungy hire. Then finished it off with MONEY for Gruden and have sucked ass ever since. Sell the damn team already you limey’s if you don’t care about it anymore. No Joe I don’t care that they spent a qrtr of a billion dollars on this team over the last 2 years or wtf ever it is. I really think, they think they don’t owe us fans sh!t. They got us a SB and we can wait til forever and a day for another one. Just like we did before.
FRUSTRATED!
October 27th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Macabee…that’s all fine and dandy man. You continue to believe that the Glazers actually care about the team and not making money (by bringing in big name FA’s to sell tickets) and I’ll continue to believe that they don’t give a crap about this team anymore.
I never used to think like this about 2 years ago. Things have changed. Put up or shut up Glazers.
A Joel Glazer quote from 2006 :
“Mediocrity will never be standard for the Buccaneers”
Oh really Joel? WTF ever punk!
October 27th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
I haven’t really commented in a long time, but I just want to say/share some things.
For starters nike.com is selling a Freeman jersey for $250. LOL. I think they should pay people to take them at this point. I would post the link, but I’m not sure if it is allowed.
I really hate how this season is going, but I honestly don’t know if Sullivan could take over (and improve the team) if Schiano was fired, or who would actually want to even attempt to step in. I feel like everything is such a mess with this team and front office this year. I mean I felt that ever since Schiano has been our HC we have had relatively good drafts compared to the few years before. Also if Sullivan or somebody stepped in, how would fans react if we did not improve?
The next question I really want to know is if Glennon is the answer. I feel like he is doing better than Freeman was, especially considering the situation he was thrust in.
I think that in the meeting with the Glazers Schiano was probably asked what he needed to get this team rolling (I’m referring to possible trades), and they might have put some pressure on him to win. I just hope that the pressure truly isn’t a major enough distraction or excuse to keep from winning.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
So I was just reading where Roger Goodell wants to put a team in London but doesn’t want to increase the number of teams. Don’t the Glazers mainly reside in Europe now and isn’t Man-U in London? Just sayin’
October 27th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Frankly, I don’t care what the fans think and most likely the Glazers do not either. What? They won’t buy tickets?
They haven’t been for years and the Bucs still make a profit and are able to sign free agents because of tv revenue.
The fans turned on the Bucs during the last year Gruden was here. That’s when blackouts started…and THAT was a winning season.
The fans want constant turnover and it results in no growth. You want to make the playoffs? You plug and play from year to year. You want to build a dynasty? You draft well and sign young.
I’m fine with Schiano staying amother year and to heck the naysayers. Know what a chaos fan is? A hair from a fair weather fan. And 98% of Tampa fans are one or the other. So screw the fans. Stick it out and see what happens long term.
Cause no one can tell me if we had a Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady we wouldn’t instantly be a top team.
The play calling for any team isn’t always perfect, but in the Bucs case execution is hurting worse.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Screw the fans. Do it Schiano’s way another year. Ticket sales mean next to nothing anyway these days.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
Mr. Patrick Says: October 27th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
So I was just reading where Roger Goodell wants to put a team in London but doesn’t want to increase the number of teams. Don’t the Glazers mainly reside in Europe now and isn’t Man-U in London? Just sayin’”
What you read is outdated. The plan now is to have each of the 32 teams play one game a year in London to all the teams can be seen there.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
The Glazers = Inept.
For you rednecks and kids that were schooled in Florida.
Inept : having or showing no skill; clumsy.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
After Schiano returns to the locker room, “It’s ok boys we are still rich and overpaid, and we will continue to be paid even after we are fired”. (laughter, giggling, high fives) “Doesn’t really matter how many coaches we have or who plays qb this team would have still sucked.” “Coach do you think we got a chance in Seattle?” (laughter, giggling, high fives”)
October 27th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php
All should read this. Bucs have invested more money in schiano. If anything Dom will be the first to go. Dom and schiano aren’t on the same page. Dom just goes out and spends cash and makes bad draft choices and has built a thin roster. Freeman was never schianos guy and Dom had the power to nix schianos decision.
A gm and head coach need to be on the same page. They’re not and its obvious.
Not saying schianos seat isn’t hot but the man upstairs is going to go before schiano.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
@ bonzai
Goodell only said that late yesterday and the other plan you mentioned is only speculation by Peter King
October 27th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
October 27th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
“Screw the fans. Do it Schiano’s way another year. Ticket sales mean next to nothing anyway these days.”
Ya know what…hilarious but you have a point Bonzai. Because that’s what they might say. They might say to themselves we have already paid 2 coaches at the same time before we’re not doing it again. Fans don’t show up to the games even when we do have winning seasons anyways like the 2010 fluke. So why bother listening to them? Makes sense to me Bonzai. We might be STUCK with Schiano like it or not.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
Thanks for that Chris…I’m going to read that. Because I’m VERY interested in Dominik(rock star) leaving too. Something that will never grace the pages of JBF until it happens.
October 27th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
@buc1987. the glazers are highly successful businessman and they know that WINNING is what makes the money. They want and try to find that formula for sustained success, I simply believe a handful of the decisions they’ve made haven’t worked out the way they, and we, thought they would.
they’ve put a good amount of money time and effort into the product that we see now…I’m sure they’re just as disappointed as us. I’ve come close to being a glazer hater a few times myself, but they’ve ultimately proven to me that long term, consistent contention is their main goal
October 28th, 2013 at 12:04 am
@Chris. I definitely agree. I think that Dom should go, especially if Schiano goes. I don’t think a new GM would hurt. Also, if our HC gets fired, and our GM stays then I will be a very unhappy camper to say the least.
October 28th, 2013 at 12:11 am
Chris what I read makes sense to me Dom has to go first before Schiano. Who knows Walter Football was talking about a Bill Polian GM possibility. If that happens it might be a step in the right direction and renew my faith again in these yahoo’s we have as owners. I’m not holding my breath though.
A Joel Glazer quote from 2006 :
“Mediocrity will never be standard for the Buccaneers”
Ripley’s Believe it or Not.
October 28th, 2013 at 12:16 am
“I’ve come close to being a glazer hater a few times myself, but they’ve ultimately proven to me that long term, consistent contention is their main goal”
bigpoppabuc …I know it’s late man, but your going to have to explain what you mean by “long term consistent contention”. How have they proven to you that this is their goal?
October 28th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Trust, belief, accountability. 0 for 3 there Gregory my man.
October 28th, 2013 at 12:25 am
Sorry to everyone for ranting in here tonight, but it’s like this. I grew up in the Boston area. I love the Red Sox, but I can’t go to Fenway because I live here now. I have not lived in Boston for over 20 years now and I won’t go see them play the Rays out of respect for the Rays. I’m a HUGE Noles fan but Tallahassee is too far to drive for me at this point in my life. So what it comes down to is all I have IS the Bucs. Sure I can watch the other 2 on TV an root for them. Nothing comes close to the love I have for this team, besides family. YES they mean THAT much to me. So when I post like crazy, left and right, it is what it is. Like family. My family is getting their ass kicked right now and I’m pissed off about it.
October 28th, 2013 at 12:26 am
lol its now come to questioning the ownership’s dedication because the team is not being run exactly how fans want. give me a fuking break. the owners have shown more than enough willingness to win over the past couple of years by opening up their pocket books. dont confuse competence with commitment. yea, the direction they went has resulted in wins, but its not for a lack of trying, I can tell you that. get a grip bucs fans.
October 28th, 2013 at 12:42 am
Andrew 1 I heard that the Glazers HAD to spend that money. That’s right HAD to spend that money, because of the collective bargaining agreement that required them to spend it.
The Hugh Culverhouse Theory :Just bring in a few big name players and the fans will buy tickets anyways.
October 28th, 2013 at 12:45 am
Bonzai:
How dare you use facts, logic and reason in a comment?!
October 28th, 2013 at 12:53 am
@ Buc1987
if you havent figure it out by now, the NFL runs in cycles. right now we are at the sh!t end of that cycle. we will get back to winning football games. in the mean time just be a fan and leave the rest up to the owners.
October 28th, 2013 at 1:01 am
“if you havent figure it out by now, the NFL runs in cycles.”
Andrew 1…Runs in cycles? Tell that to Jags and Browns fans and well tell that to Bucs fans too. It’s been a looooong cycle Andrew. A looooong cycle. Please assure me when it’s going to be our turn again.
Andrew 1 in case you have not noticed the Bucs are historically the worst team in the NFL. That’s just the history buddy and your now living it with me congratulations. Welcome to what it’s really like to be a Bucs fan. You might get to see them in the playoffs. It just might take another 10 more years or so. You know cycles.
October 28th, 2013 at 1:03 am
and like I’ve said many times before, just let this all play out. if Schiano doesnt start winning then there wont need to be anyone calling for his head because he will have gotten himself fired. just root for a bucs victory, things will solve themselves.
October 28th, 2013 at 1:07 am
Oh and don’t think for a second I won’t support this team. I’ve been through this crap before with them. That does not mean it is going to be easy street though. I’m done making any predictions for this team prior to any season for the rest of my life. I won’t do it anymore. No more high expectations. I don’t care if they somehow pull of some crazy trade for Tom Br-ady, I’m not doing it ever again. What happens, happens. I’ll just go into every season not expecting much from now on.
October 28th, 2013 at 1:12 am
Good night and welcome to Culverhouse 2.0. I can’t wait until they draft the next Vinny Testeverde in the 2014 draft. That should sell some tickets huh?
October 28th, 2013 at 1:14 am
@ Buc1987
you cant compare them to us, because the very fact that we have a superbowl and they dont already shows that we are better off then they are. and you bring up the Jags, people may laugh at them now, but their time may soon be coming. Just look at the Falcons, on top of the world one minute, down in the sh!ter the next. no one can predict how things are going to play out. we are trying to win, and who knows maybe next year we will be back on top again.
October 28th, 2013 at 1:23 am
@ Buc1987
ok… your going to support them but bitch and moan every step of the way. you fit right in with the rest of the bucs fan, I can tell you that.
October 28th, 2013 at 1:43 am
This reminds me of how Myron Lewis was always still on the roster after cuts.
October 28th, 2013 at 2:03 am
Maybe, just maybe!!!!!!!! Schiano back for 2014-15???? Maybe, just maybe!!!!
Remember that the Glazers also own Manchester United. Back in 1989 the fans and the media of Man Utd were screaming for Fergie to be sacked for a long. long string of poor results. The board stuck by him and he turned out to be the best manager in the history of soccer and turned Man Utd into the biggest club in the world.
The Glazers are fastidious in understanding their clubs and their history so maybe, just maybe they will allow Schiano one more season to see if he can be another Fergie.
They (the Bucs ) tried incredibly hard to dump Freeman in the close season and bring in Palmer (whom I don’t rate that highly) so it may be that they will allow the current management team to draft a top QB and better offensive linesmen and give them 1 maybe 2 seasons to see how they can do. Schiano did well at Rutgers developing young players so …….
Maybe, just maybe!!!!!!!!
October 28th, 2013 at 2:54 am
ROTFLMAO!!!
October 28th, 2013 at 5:06 am
The only case for Schiano keeping his job after this season is 6 wins; I might even go with 5 because the rest of the schedule is difficult, along with the injuries to Martin & Williams. No matter the teams they would beat, that would be somewhat impressive. But seriously, that’s a joke; it’s just not gonna happen.
Schiano’s best opportunity to turn things around really lies in everyone around him. If he wants to mend some bridges, or well, start to mend, he should strongly consider manning up to his players by vowing to not call the kneel-down-crashing play ever again, publicly apologizing to the rest of the NFL &, especially, the teams he did call it against. I know, it’s idealistic to think he’s even capable of doing such a thing, but if he’s all about trust, belief & accountability, he’ll come around to the idea that he stepped on the integrity of sportsmanship. I’ve done a 180 on this. I originally thought it was clever & that the opponent should just be ready for that play, but it just makes him look like a sore loser. He, like many coaches, may have burned some bridges. Admitting he was wrong about calling that potentially dangerous play would make certain players & colleagues look at him differently, as well as many fans, including me. It doesn’t mean the Bucs would start winning but could help him in the future. Just a thought. I’m just not counting on it.
October 28th, 2013 at 5:58 am
After years of Glazer watching I’d say such a meeting is not good news for Schiano.
Only Schiano is talking, silence from Glazer’s means something is up.
They really might do something after Seattle and the seal clubbing.
That MNF game could turn into national embarrassment.
October 28th, 2013 at 6:10 am
The further we get from the Carolina game, the more I believe Schiano is going nowhere. I just don’t believe the Glazers are going to pay him for 3+ years not to coach. Why in the world did somebody with such a mediocre record get a 5 year deal in the first place?
October 28th, 2013 at 6:26 am
How do these clandestine meetings always get leaked? And let the speculation begin. To think the Glazers don’t care about their billion dollar business is ludicrous. The comparisons to Hugh Culverhouse are not warranted. They are a million times more upset than any of us. Macabee’s posts are always logical and without the juvenile name calling. I’ll add something else. I always say a person should never be surprised as to why they are being terminated. I suspect the Glazers simply and formally warned Schiano that his performance is not up to anyone’s standards and that the team is now on a weekly review. And coming up is the best team we have faced and may face all season followed by the Monday Night game. Embarrass us fans and the Glazers again on national TV and Schiano might just be a free….man.
October 28th, 2013 at 6:54 am
Let’s not forget that the Glazers are the same ones that trotted out Raheem Morris and his cavalcade of losers a few years back. They aren’t as motivated by results and fan support as some seem to think they are.
October 28th, 2013 at 7:31 am
Id like to know two things.
Was Dominik at the meeting?
Which player leaked it?