Report: Doug Martin Has Serious Shoulder Injury
October 21st, 2013
Update 12:09 p.m. Fox Sports is reporting Martin has a torn labrum that likely will shelve him for the remainder of the season.
Bad news keeps piling up for the New Schiano Order. Per NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport, Pro Bowl running back Doug Martin could be sidelined for much of the season. The sad note moved on Twitter late this morning.
@RapSheet – As if the #Bucs needed more bad news: I’m told the shoulder injury to RB Doug Martin is serious. Could be out several weeks or longer.
Joe hopes the Bucs just shut down Martin completely if he does, in fact, have a serious problem. There is ZERO reason to mess around.
This injury steams Joe particularly because it was on a play that never should have happened, as Joe wrote about earlier.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:29 am
doug martin should catch screen passes……………must not be in the playbook
October 21st, 2013 at 11:29 am
So much for HIPPA – but I guess it only applies to Josh Freeman’s medical condition and no other players’.
HIPPA in the NFL does not apply to injuries only non-football medical conditions. –Joe
October 21st, 2013 at 11:37 am
Well…this plays right into our only option for this year….develop our younger players….this will give James & perhaps Demps some opportunities.
It will also cause us to be a bit more creative with our playcalling.
Hope Martin recovers fully…
October 21st, 2013 at 11:37 am
Sit Dougie and Carl down for the rest of the year. We are 0-6, do not rush these guys back.
Sit down anyone that can help the cause in 2013, no need to play anyone and keep them hurt for next year.
Bad year to be a Buc fan, I feel for anyone that spent on season tickets. At least you have seats to the best circus in FL.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:38 am
Joe, could not agree with you more. Sit all the injured until beyond well, no reason to do otherwise. Put them in IR and bring up the practice squad players to see what we have. So Revis, Joseph, and the rest sit.
I don’t know who does our playbook and then chooses the plays but whomever is doing it should be horsewhipped.
It would be nice for a tight end that can catch the ball when it counts and enough receivers so someone gets open. Of course the line would have to block instead of getting beat all the time.
Correct me if I am wrong but I swore I saw about nine in the box and we still ran the Martin inside play for its usual loss. Can’t anybody call an audible?
If the OC was an Army Ranger and his thinking is like what we see on the play calling, it is fortunate for our troops that he is not calling their plays.
What do think of the former receivers coach PJ something as a coaching candidate?
October 21st, 2013 at 11:43 am
When is this team done rebuilding?
Anyone else notice the RedSkins win this weekend, with Bruce Allen, Raheem Morris, EJ Biggers and Tanard Jackson?
Funny how everyone shuns to hear the name “Danny Snyder”, but he is a better football owner than the Glazers have been the past few years.
When are we done rebuidling? It is almost like we were rebuilding, and then setting ourselves further back to continue rebuidling.
When is Mark Dominick responsible for this mess?
October 21st, 2013 at 11:43 am
No one even mentions the fact that Doug was blown up on a play that was called a penalty a few weeks ago. Goldston makes that play and was fined…the hypocrisy of the NFL right now is unbelievable.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:44 am
0-16……………….. we’ll be the only team in NFL history to have 2 completely winless seasons…….. T_T
October 21st, 2013 at 11:44 am
Anyone thinking Schiano will sit starters is crazy. This guy need wins more than a crackhead needs its pipe…
October 21st, 2013 at 11:45 am
98.7 is reporting a torn labrum and he is out for the year.
Damn you to hell, Sullivan. Damn you to the bloody pits of the third ring. I hope you’re sodomized by little pointy-tailed devils.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:47 am
Martin is out for the rest of the season
October 21st, 2013 at 11:47 am
Joe, this is football. Martin has just as much chance of getting injured running a screen pass or just getting hammered by a linebacker as he gets to the second level. If you have to start eliminating plays because someone might get injured you may as well take away every play across the middle of the field because, after all, a #1 WR could get injured. It’s unfortunate but the play was well designed. Martin almost held on to the pass for a big play.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:48 am
Rotoworld is stating the same – torn labrum and done for the year….awesome
At least Schiano will not be able to run him into the ground and ruin his career chances.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:49 am
This year is already worse than the 3 and 4 win seasons we just had not to long ago. Absolutely miserable. Get well soon Doug. Hopefully next year you’ll have a better line to run behind.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:51 am
This is football fellas. Injuries happen.
@Adam L….I’d be careful with that kind of talk.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:52 am
I would really like to take the time to Thank the pop-star. Since he was hired I have not spent 1 dime on the bucs. If it was not for him i would not have purchased my wonderful boat and would have wasted alot of money and time on his failed product during his tenure. Thank you Pop-star for all the good times i am now having on Sunday’s
October 21st, 2013 at 11:52 am
Is Kregg Lumpkin avaialble?
Checkdown city!
October 21st, 2013 at 11:53 am
And for our next head coach…..Greg Roman. I actually like Glennon and see some potential in him. Let’s go get Clowney. Pick up a qb in the second round to compete with Glennon and may the best man win. Roman is an offensive tactician and we will finally have a coach that can outsmart opposing coaches
October 21st, 2013 at 11:54 am
Next man up is a Rutgers man!
Good for Schiano!
Go Rutganeers!
October 21st, 2013 at 11:55 am
done for the year…………that sucks, with 9 in the box…….he had no chance, we need a great head coach and a qb that make def respect him. Glennon cant make def respect him, hes a statue. I would be fine with takin clowney and trading for ryan mallet…..i also love bridgewater, if we dont get bridgewater, we are screwes for longer……..i would even take schaubb or cutler…..we need a 3rd wr and a tight end……how is shiano not playing bowers, rod marranelli would have our dline dominate…….i say we bring in lovie as coach, rod marrinelli or ron riviera as def coordinator, and kubiak if hes fired as our oc……………..we are a playoff caliber team missing a few pieces………look at what we have given up since shiano took over………..blount, talib, winslow, freeman, price, micheal bennet, those are great players at least for depth……..shiano has way to many rutgers people on this team also………..he is by far worse that raheem, face the facts, raheem had no talent, this guy as 8 pro bowlers…….hes terrible……i like dominik’
October 21st, 2013 at 11:57 am
@Steve
Colts did a one year rebuild. And it was more than just switching out great QBs. And they did it with a new GM and HC.
But, I think with some of the older talent on the team, they could possibly be in a KC Chief situation. Put in a new GM and HC, coach up who is on the roster, and fill in the obvious holes (DE, TE, Slot, depth in many places).
If they don’t pull a KC, then totally wipe the whole team clean, and lose the massive salaries.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:57 am
Doug Martin deserves a Purple Heart for what he was asked to do.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Did anyone think the article “Stop Putting Off Fixing Your Teeth” was about Schiano?
October 21st, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Looks like the Colts made a wise decision with hiring Pagano and us Buc fans are stuck with this toolbag. I have no faith that this ownership can find the right coach that will guide us to championships. They have no clue. First thing is they need to replace Dominik with somebody that knows what they are freakin doing.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Bring back Dungy as GM and Lovie as HC, they will right the ship.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Can we get someone from the Ozzie Newsome GM tree? Or another proven organization with a history of success.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:09 pm
ODB,
Someone from Ozzie Newsome’s brain truse would be great.
When is Joe going to revisit the Rock Star nickname?
We are in a constant state of rebuilding, what is the issue with our Bucs? We stink.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
He’ll be back by playoffs. Lol, I kid.
I DO hope he makes a speedy recovery but I have confidence in mike James. He and the white guy,( sorry I forgot his name). They looked good in pre-season. Wonder why coach had no rotation to speak of. It was well known that we had a pretty good stable of rbs. Even if we didn’t, it’s kinda foolish to go all out with your starting running back 98% of the time. I’m sure coach Greg has things under control…
October 21st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
He’ll be back by playoffs. Lol, I kid.
I DO hope he makes a speedy recovery but I have confidence in mike James. He and the white guy,( sorry I forgot his name). They looked good in pre-season. Wonder why coach had no rotation to speak of. It was well known that we had a pretty good stable of rbs. Even if we didn’t, it’s kinda foolish to go all out with your starting running back 98% of the time. I’m sure coach Greg has things under control…
October 21st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
“a play that shouldve never happened?” Give me a f****** break!.. its football, players are gonna get hurt. If it wouldve been a handoff you wouldve cried that doug martin has too many carries.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:14 pm
By the time 0-16 gets here there won’t be any players left,either due to misuse- injury or Schiano’s Napoleon complex.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:16 pm
@Steve
Yes, I posted about the rockstar name last week. I’d like to know the last time that name was fitting. I’d guess it’s been several seasons since he was “holding court” with any throngs of local or national media.
It’s a misnomer. Things change.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Stop it with the injuries happen n football yea they do but its unfortunate when u put some one n a position to get hurt as a coach u should put them n place to succeed woukd u give schiano a pass if he let peyton manning run the read option because that was ” schainos scheme” no youd hang em… same scenario diff ppl u dont let ya star back run go routrs thats y we have reciebers and u dont let ur immoble qb run read option u play to there strentghs…..I repeat GET THIS ASSCLOWN OUTA HERE I just want common sense is that to hard to ask for lord???
October 21st, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Tj warr give me a break take schiano out ur mouth he’s not a good coach what has he showned u to disprove that??? If u had a fatcuall based argument I coukd understand but u dont u just wanna b against the g4ain an the grain says FIRE THIS ASSCLOWN
October 21st, 2013 at 12:21 pm
I think losing PJ fleck as WR coach has really hurt our WR corps. I dont remember this many dropped passes last year. Having no running game hurts the passing game, but there is an obvious drop off in WR production.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:23 pm
It’s unbelievable that some of you are not capable of higher level thinking. “Injuries happen” and therefore there’s nothing wrong with our 5’9″ all star running back running deep sideline routes that he has zero chance at catching is absolute nonsense. VJ would be lucky to catch those passes.
Diving backward arms extended while getting hammered by a defender IS NOT a position Martin is use to having his body in. Therefore, injuries are much more likely to happen. He knows how to take a hit as RB. He knows how to lower his shoulder, spin, protect himself, ect. Half of the reason he’s been so durable is his ability to avoid direct hits as a RB. This play was dumb the first time they ran it and it was dumb the 3rd time they ran it. All of the plays produced zero yards.
Smart coaches protect their players and put them in the best position to win their individual battles on the field. Desperate coaches resort to this kind of nonsense.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:25 pm
Some of these comments on this blog entry and others make me think sometimes the Buccaneers actually have staffers trying to do damage control on forums.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:28 pm
OK, Joe….I’ll agree that Martin isn’t that good with deep passes…but to blame the coaches for his injury is going too far.
The fanbase is already taking things to the limit.
Excuse me. Joe didn’t blame anyone. Joe’s only saying that this play call was senseless. And Joe wrote about it in September. –Joe
MRSA….Schiano’s fault
Nicks…..Dominick’s fault
Crabtree….Schiano’s fault
Injuries happen…in practice, at charity basketball games, in preseason….
October 21st, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Bucnasty fire schiano and hire who? Who would wanna come to tampa with the glazers pulling the plug every 2 or 3 years?. You dont know football and if someone handed you one you would probably let the air out. He wont get fired and you can cry about it for the next 3 years
October 21st, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Stevie k if we got dungy as gm and lovie as hc I would cream my jeans
October 21st, 2013 at 12:39 pm
@TJ Ware
How about a coach that actually has a proven record, that don’t speak about himself at the 3rd person and like a savior, that can ADJUST its expectation to the player characters instead of shipping all the talent because they don’t fit its mould?
What’s with this coaches fear that if we fire Schiano today no one will want to come next? C’mon! Everyone will understand that this situation is completly out of control and there’s only 1 way out: Fire Schiano.
Why would the Glazers do that? Maybe because they want to retain the last bucs couple thousand fans worldwide. Maybe because they have some pride and can acknowledge that it was a bad call.. It happens, it happened with Morris just before.. They only need to assess if Dominick is part of the problem or the solution. Right now I don’t know but its record doesn’t plays in its favor. Glazers already started to acknowledge this season is a disaster by buying tickets to at least gives the community the chance to see the bucs play but now they must realize that it’s even worse to put the bucs on tv with Schiano at the helm than to suffers some blackouts..
There’s absolutely no way out of this except for firing Schiano.. If they don’t do it, they need to step up and defend their coach. They can’t hide. And I don’t care about draft rank, I want some goddamn respect back!!
October 21st, 2013 at 12:40 pm
When I read all the comments about Schiano now I almost feel sorry. I took a lot of abuse early on for saying what everybody is saying now.
Couch Fan and Buc1987 remember the back and forth we had regarding Schiano. Seems like ages ago but I didn’t do one thing to cause his demise. I simply knew in time he would do it to himself! I still hope we win because it doesn’t matter now, no matter what he’s done!
October 21st, 2013 at 12:41 pm
I am sad for Martin’s shoulder, happy for the rest of his body. He got sent into that slob of an offensive line on far too many suicide missions. Let him relax and wait for an offensive system that understands when you stack the line and have 8/9 in the box you cannot run the ball. I would love to see the box level film to see if the middle of the field was open for slant and over the middle routes. Bucs throw far too many balls to the outside, they don’t screen and they don’t run their tight ends down the middle of the field. Against the type of defenses we see every week a big fast tight end would be killer running down the middle of the field. Glennon is accurate as hell on 25 yard and shorter throws.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:42 pm
the Tampa Bay Times is reporting that Doug’s injury is not serious. they are saying his x-rays came back negative and that he does not have a separated shoulder.
{Deleted by Joe, that’s an old story, and please don’t post outside links unless they’re relevant. –Joe}
October 21st, 2013 at 12:44 pm
tj ware if you like shiano, follow him at texas next year…………..idiot
October 21st, 2013 at 12:44 pm
lol, who do we believe?
October 21st, 2013 at 12:53 pm
what? how is it irrelevant? the link was from our local newspaper that directly talks about Doug Martin’s injury situation, which is what the topic of your post was about.
October 21st, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Didn’t see this happening. You mean you can’t run your under sized back into the teeth of every defensive front with zero blocks. Get rid of this ass clown coach already. They can still loose with Wandstat and get a high draft pick.
October 21st, 2013 at 1:01 pm
BucsQcCity you are another idiot…If schiano stays next year you idiots wont “Boycott” the bucs, you will still watch them on TV, you will still listen to them on the radio, you will still kisten to idiots like Duemig and still go on websites like joebucsfan and pewterreport. The Glazers know they are not going to “Lose” fans. Real fans dont get lost. Jets fans hated Rex Ryan but they still showed up snd sold out week 1. The Eagles havent eon a superbowl in FOREVER yet they still sell out their stadium. The Steelers were winless but they still sell out. The vikings are 1-4 and they still sellout every week. All we got us a bunch of B**** fans, we dont have any passionaye fans like those cities. Hell we were on a win streak last year and had atlanta coming to town and we struggled to sell out..dont matter if we BUY free agents, fire coaches, draft #1 picks, our “will” still be B**** ass crybabies. Stupid Report yesterday, Mike Williams was upset that we didnt go for it on 4th down yesterday..Any person with common sense knows we wouldnt of gotten it. Talk about Goldson jumping the route and leaving banks on an island by himself..He is an All Pro safety, you cant coach that. Talk about Davin Penalty Joseph with his stupid mistakes..He is a pro bowl guard, lemme guess blame bob bostad. Vincent Jackson Drops lemme guess blame schiano. Leonard Johnson blame Tony Oden. OUR FANS SUCK JUST AS MUCH AS OUR TEAM…POINT BLANK
October 21st, 2013 at 1:01 pm
@ Joe
I didn’t see where he posted a “link”….all he did was make reference to a source…. That’s why Joe wrote “deleted by Joe”
October 21st, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Schiano’s been trying to run martin all game to save his job. Oh well, too bad
October 21st, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Giving Blount away was an awesome idea. Same with Bennett. Who needs depth anywhere on the field? This staff is brilliant.
October 21st, 2013 at 1:39 pm
@Scott Hunter..
“look at what we have given up since shiano took over………..blount, talib, winslow, freeman, price, micheal bennet, those are great players at least for depth……..shiano has way to many rutgers people on this team also………..he is by far worse that raheem, face the facts, raheem had no talent, this guy as 8 pro bowlers…….hes terrible……i like dominik’”
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Ok….Tim Wright only has 10 yards less than Winslow has so far this year…I’d take Mike James over Blount…..Price isn’t even playing anymore as far as I know….Freeman???…please… as for Bennett…not sure why we got rid of him. Talib?? How many chances should one player get to let a team down?? I suppose we should have kept Tanard Jackson too huh? As far as Rutgers players…we actually have less Rutgers players than the Patriots have. There’s a lot of things to criticize Schiano for but the GM trades and cuts players…not the coach.
October 21st, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Hey Bobby…
We were talking about this on Saturday and you bring up a good point.
What happened to the days when the Bucs would recruit locally and be stocked with FSU, UF, and UM players? I think we have 1 guy from a Florida school on the roster (D. Watson).
If I had to pick a player from a college, I’d take FL’s schools of Rutgers any day.
October 21st, 2013 at 1:57 pm
D-Rome,
Agree with you. The “damage controllers” are out.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:04 pm
@TJ Ware…..Yeah…I’m not fan of our ‘sheme’ here lately but you can’t coach ‘stupid’. These are grown men who know the difference between smart and stupid and to blame something like the late hit on Ryan or the late hit out of bounds on ‘coaching’ is just a pitiful excuse to pile on. There’s plenty to not like about our offensive and defensive scheme but we moved the ball at will against the Falcons and penalties killed us. We had the Falcons off the field on third and long and Scott hits Ryan 5 minutes after he throws the ball. That’s coaching??? BS. That’s just a dumb play by a dumber player. We should have won. The sack fumble was a gift. The late hit gives them another 7 pts. Penalties cost us 14 pts and instead we only get 6 pts. It’s not working with the coaches we have but if fans are expecting a miracle turnaround just because we get a new coach they are delusional. If our players could ever pull their head out of their #$@@’s for an entire game we’d be 5-1. We beat ourselves way more than any team beats us.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:07 pm
I’m glad it’s not his legs or back.
I’m not going to complain about money I spend on the team. Just like any of you I knew there was risk when I bought my tickets. There always is. You choosing to buy them anyway says you accept the risk from the start.
Voice your concerns about the team, players and coaches all you want, but the last thing you should do is complain that you wasted money on tickets.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm
It is a shame Martin is out. He was looking good in his effort. I was commenting to a friend while watching that Martin was’nt getting thrown to because of the dropped passes in earlier games. Next play he went down. Big loss.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Thank you Bobby…Preach On!!!!!! Talk to these idiots
October 21st, 2013 at 2:18 pm
…and the bad news keeps coming.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:23 pm
@Bobby…great comment. It kills me to hear people blame “hands to the face” or “lined up in the neutral zone” on coaching.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Sit for the WHOLE season, Doug.
Come back when there’s a new coach and an OL that’s not trying to get you murdered 4 yards behind the LOS.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:34 pm
It’s like Joe making a gramatical error on his blog and blaming his English teacher…..just an excuse to deflect where the true blame lies. If you know what to do and you don’t do it then it’s on you.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:36 pm
@Adam L…
“Come back when there’s a new coach and an OL that’s not trying to get you murdered 4 yards behind the LOS.”
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You got that right! It seems like the opposing defense is in the backfield before Martin gets the ball.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm
If we do end up with the #1 pick they sure as heck better take a QB no matter how good Glennon looks.
That said…I’m in no hurry for the season to end. At least the young players are getting experience. It’s injuries that worry me.
October 21st, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Can we just skip over Thursday this week and go right to Friday? Please??
October 21st, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Doug martin has 1 more touchdown than Joe this season……no big loss next man up.
October 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm
joe moma is a moron next moron up
October 21st, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Sadly, I don’t consider myself a fairweather fan, but I’ve stopped recording the games.
No sense is subjecting one’s self to angry and misery. My wife and my dog don’t deserve my reactions.
October 21st, 2013 at 7:08 pm
the season seems to be ok for guys like tj on here guys like him are good with a couple wins thinking there is hope not thinking with all the bad press what descent free agent would come here and help share his knee pads