Praise For Freeman’s Work Ethic
October 3rd, 2013
As the NFL buzzes about a potential landing spot for former Bucs franchise QB Josh Freeman, one of his former position coaches (sadly he had four in five seasons) spoke out to share his love of Freeman.
Alex Van Pelt, the former NFL QB and Bucs QB coach (2010 & 2011), told BSPN that Freeman was a model leader and workhorse.
“I loved Josh,” Van Pelt said Thursday. “Josh and I had a good working relationship. He was nothing but a pro when I was there with him. He was never late for meetings. We actually had 6:30 (a.m.) quarterback meetings; we were an hour before anybody else, and I never had an issue or anything like that. He did everything that I asked him to do.
“He was a great teammate, watched him work around the other guys and had a lot of respect for him. I don’t know what happened, but I know the guy that I was there with I really enjoyed being with.”
When asked whether Freeman could still be an NFL starter, Van Pelt said: “No doubt.”
Van Pelt is now the running backs coach for the Packers. It’s not like he’s been unemployed sitting on a couch somewhere drinking beer.
So Van Pelt says Freeman was a model teammate in 2010 and 2011, and the New Schiano Order viewed Freeman as worthy of leading the Bucs in 2013, after studying him for all of 2012.
It’s hard to understand why things went so wrong so fast.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Things go south when you are the worst in completion pct and go 0-3…he looked terrible doing it
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Green Bay dose not hire bunk coaches. It’s nice to hear something like this…come out of that team…at this time.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:04 am
I don’t care and we don’t care anymore about this drama – can we turn the page please?
October 4th, 2013 at 12:05 am
Let’s discuss the coaching and preparation and lack of adjustments….
October 4th, 2013 at 12:05 am
…or, since he was one of the best young talents before the guy from Rutgers (where he never won the BIG freakin’ EAST, finished 67-66, and ran off 7 QB’s – in 6 years) showed up.
What happeed?
Schiano did for Josh Freeman and the Bucs – what he did for Rutgers.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:08 am
No, you cannot turn the page – because it isn’t over yet.
Because the REAL problem is still here.
See how that works? When your wrong – everybody else keeps talking about what IS wrong.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Why are we still talking about this outcast?
October 4th, 2013 at 12:13 am
So Freebow had a good work ethic 2 years ago but is not dedicated now? Either he just copped a major immature, unprofessional attitude with Schiano or he had some off field influences and activities become more important to him. Either way, not good on him. But some NFL team will sign him out of desperation and find out that he is no better than average.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:23 am
I’m sick of this.
Lee/Steve – Where can I send a letter to the Glazers. I want this tyrannical fascist leader gone from our franchise. He can make another team mediocre – not my team. Hell, I’ll put up a billboard to fire him on I-275 if that’s what it takes.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:26 am
Ryan…your going to be sick for atleast the next 12 weeks.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:34 am
bottom line is this freeman is a crybaby you get bench and you wanna go on espn and tell the world you wanna get traded how can you respect, the guy was late to meetings, for a team photo he has issues. he deserved to get bench period and now that he is release good luck u got your wish and all of you that were complaining about josh freeman before and now feel bad. stop you guys got what you wanted. im not really a schiano guy but you know at least he is putting himself on the line now its all on him nobody else but him. freeman is gone and he believes glennon is better we shall see. all I could do is root because im a bucfanforlife. go bucs and one more thing ppl need to stop promoting this trading for vjax thing the guy is a beast and still has a lot left on him for real stop it makes no sense at all
October 4th, 2013 at 12:40 am
You guys just keep thinking some mystical qb is going to show up here and save this pathetic organization. You have to have structure to develop a quarterback, we dont have that. If we had Dan Marino he still wouldn’t have a ring, so stop trying to blame this poor excuse of a professional football team all on the qb.
October 4th, 2013 at 12:58 am
I don’t believe anything changed.
Josh was stuck in Schianos horrible “Rutgers offense last year- no WB can win with that horrible scheme!!, and wasn’t happy.
Schiano drafted Glennon. Gave him half the snaps( gave, he didn’t earn!), and began Smearing Freeman
This is a direct quote from NFL X and so expert, Greg Bedard
“And, in what has been a Greg Schiano staple since his Rutgers days, the Buccaneers’ scheme is outdated, unimaginative and too reliant on short plays. The short and intermediate passing game that is so crucial in today’s NFL is essentially nonexistent in Tampa’s system. It’s difficult to win without it. ”
Don’t know what to add to that. This was posted here yesterday, under “Rutgers offense”.
The idiots will blame whatever QB we have playing. But it’s obvious that the scheme is the Problem
Schianos scheme.
October 4th, 2013 at 1:16 am
I never really heard anything bad about his work ethic.
Problem was he was completing 45% of his passes in an 0-3 start during a contract year with high expecations.
October 4th, 2013 at 1:16 am
Come’on joe,
I mean a month ago, we’re saying he’s not a starting NFL QB.
Now we’ve kicked him to the curb, and saying we lost the best thing.
It’s like an ex-girlfriend, we don’t want to hear now how great he was… it hurts enough as it is….
Nobody’s saying we lost the best thing. Just sharing what’s interesting. –Joe
October 4th, 2013 at 1:20 am
Ander- never seen you post here before, are you new?if so,
Welcome!
But that was a horrible post.
And why the hell would you want to waste the next 4 years of Jackson’s career- watching some Dumbass Rookie QB learn how to play in the NFL?
That’s stupid as hell! Think 36 year old Jackson will then be ready for a Couple of years- making a run at the SuperBowl??
Come on, man. That makes no damn sense at all!
Trade Jackson( my favorite Buc!) to a good, contending team! Hopefully he wins a Super Bowl! He sure deserves it!
Use the high pick we get, on a Rookie Wr- who can grow with our Rookie QB.
Then they can make a playoff run together.
Need to trade Nicks, Revis ,and Goldson too.
Stupid to waste 4 years of their careers.
October 4th, 2013 at 1:22 am
@Joe – Schiano is what went wrong so fast, and that’s exactly what I told the sales rep when I cancelled my season tix this afternoon!
Get rid of this joke of a coach and I will re-up!
October 4th, 2013 at 1:24 am
I predicted Freeman to Cleveland a week ago.
Give Norv Turner a year with Josh, and he’ll be reminding us how stupid we are- for the next 10 years or more!!
Fire Schiano and Dom!!
October 4th, 2013 at 1:43 am
The three stooges have been destroying this team since Malcolm had his stroke. They’ve hired two coaches in a row that have embarrassed this franchise. They’ll fire Schiano and screw up the next hire too, just watch.
October 4th, 2013 at 2:03 am
Why do people keep saying Schiano ruined Freeman? Do they not remember 2011 when the team started 4-2 and ended on a 10 game losing streak? That was the same coaching staff that Freeman had in 2010.
Additionally, if Schiano ruined Freeman, then how did he post 5 consecutive games in 2012 with a QB rating of over 100?
Stats wise: the average starting NFL QB rating last season was 85. Using that as a guide, Freeman in 2011 posted 8 games with a below average rating, and finished the season below average. 2012, Freeman posted 9 games with a below average rating, and finished the season below average.
Doesn’t this point more towards Freeman being inherently inconsistent?
October 4th, 2013 at 2:17 am
@Capt Tim,
You forget that Freebow was apart of the problem as well! Can’t excuse his role in the failure! Schiano stinks and Dominik has yet to obtain organizational success.
1 of 3 gone!
October 4th, 2013 at 2:32 am
What went wrong? Penn nailed it. what went wrong is the media. The Bucs went 0-3, Schaino had to make some sort of change. He changed starting QBs and the press has been hyperventilating ever sense. I have never heard Schanio or any one in the organization say any of the horrible things that the press is reporting. It’s been the press digging, speculating and making things up. It started with Duemig on 620 insiuating Free had a drug problem the day after he was benched. And that was the tip of the iceberg. The media was also complicit in destroying Josh’s privacy around his stage1 status. Some one leaked it in a whisper and the media made it public and did the real damage to Freeman. There is so much crap flying around, it’s impossible to know what is true and what’s not. Only thing I am pretty sure of is that in 36 hours, Josh will have a shinny new opportuneity with a new team and the Bucs will still be 0-4 with a crappy offense and a suspect coaching staff.
October 4th, 2013 at 2:49 am
Architek,
Yes, I actually do. I blame his problems straight on Dom.
Josh has had 3 first time offensive co- ordinators and two first Tim Ciaches since we drafted him. The last coach( P.O.S. Schiano) has tried to convert him into a pocket passer since day one. And saddled him with the pathetic Rutgers offense( you can read the analysis on that scheme in my post above).
How did Dim think any of this would develop Josh into an NFL QB?
Josh looked good when he first started. The next season, He win 10 games- with a horrible team!!
Since then, he’s been handed off to one idiot after the other. I don’t know if Josh can recover. It’s watched experts on NFL network all say he will. I just know this team made every stupid mistake possible, to prevent him from improving.
And as I said since last season ended- NO QB COULD WIN IN SCHIANOS SYSTEM!!
Hell- he couldn’t do better than.500 with it- at some tiny College in New Jersey!!
No way it is gonna work in the NFL
Nope- both idiots remain!
Fire Schiano and Dom!!!
NOW!!!
October 4th, 2013 at 3:02 am
@Capt. Tim……….let’s both call in to Steve Duemig’s show tomorrow and just say how much we want Dominick fired. He’ll hate it!! 🙂
October 4th, 2013 at 4:09 am
Poetic Captain Tim, pure poetic!
October 4th, 2013 at 4:32 am
What went wrong??? As if they were good before Schiano got there… Freeman had one great year then the NFL found out how to stop him. They adjusted and he never did… For those who don’t remember what Rutgers was before Schiano got there, shut up!!!!! Bucs should be 3 – 1 and if the QBs didn’t suck they would be as the D has improved greatly. I guess that had nothing to do with the coach…Freeman would still be the starter if he didn’t suck so bad to start the year. He would still be a Buc if he didn’t act like a cry baby duck and run to ESPN. His play is why he is not here and nothing else.
October 4th, 2013 at 6:10 am
How about this for poetic irony, the bills and browns lose their QBs and I can only imagine if they bring Josh to fill a backup role. Browns coach likes a mobile qb and has experience watching free from his days in Charlotte. Bills coach like mobile QBs to. Now we will see Frees real potential.
October 4th, 2013 at 7:33 am
Butt we were the laughing stock of the NFL so proclaims the Schiano so the Bucs needed the Schiano to come from Guido land Jersery Shore to uplift the Bucs as only a Schiano can. Well he sure fixed that didn’t he ? All hail the Schiano
October 4th, 2013 at 7:53 am
look for Josh in the Silver and Black ….
No “toes on the line”!
his only instructions will be …
“Just win, baby!”
October 4th, 2013 at 7:56 am
Free is the same except for the normal human emotions associated with trying to play for coach nut case.
Nice posts Captain.
October 4th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Capt. Tim Says:
October 4th, 2013 at 1:24 am
I predicted Freeman to Cleveland a week ago.
Give Norv Turner a year with Josh, and he’ll be reminding us how stupid we are- for the next 10 years or more!!
Fire Schiano and Dom!!
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Tim,
I never saw you predict that, but i will say this. Last year, i was BEGGING for them to give Turner a look at OC.
I’m just hoping that our next HC is offensive minded. It’d be nice to have a coach where we won’t have to worry about our QB having to learn a new system every time he has a good season.
October 4th, 2013 at 10:39 am
How is it hard to understand why things went so wrong so fast? Come on.
Well, you Joes have your opinions and I have mine. Answer….he regressed, plus he just doesnt have what it takes (game speed). Cant teach a person speed, its either there or not :/