May Be The Point Of No Return
October 20th, 2013
Now Joe has written before that he doesn’t expect Bucs commander Greg Schiano to return for the 2014 season. Not so much for his coaching shortcomings, but for a lack of trust factor among players — inaccurate or accurate — stemming from the smear job by the NFLPA, when they publicly pointed the finger at Schiano for allegedly leaking defrocked franchise quarterback Josh Freeman’s medical information.
Well, Joe thinks today may have given Team Glazer even more of a reason; the Bucs have now lost 11 of their last 12 games with Schiano at the helm.
The Bucs were playing a one-win team decimated by injuries. The Dixie Chicks were starting a No. 3 receiver who fried the Bucs time and again, Harry Douglas (who was time after time covered by a rookie and a second-year free agent signee, but not All-World corner Darrelle Revis). The defense, in the first half, looked hapless. You mean to tell Joe the Bucs had a week to prepare for the injury-prone Dixie Chicks, with virtually no offensive line to speak of, and they got ripped apart as if Raheem Morris was coaching them?
One guy who came to play on defense was stud Lavonte David. He seemed to be making a tackle every other play. His comments on the Buccaneers Radio Network following the game were rather telling.
“In the first half there were a lot of things we messed up on mentally. It was mental things that happened that gave them big plays. We have to learn how to eliminate that,” David said.
Now wait a minute! The Bucs have a College of Coaches that are supposed to teach. Schiano and his staff are supposed to be detailed to the point of examining pasta and thermostats in order to keep players from being distracted. And yet, the Bucs’ star linebacker claims they are not mentally into games?
Now Joe doesn’t expect Schiano to be relieved of his command, nor should he. The Bucs are in the chase for Jake Matthews and Jadevon Clowney. Why jeopardize that? There’s no better option now.
To conclude why Joe doesn’t think Schiano will be relieved before January is the history and pattern of Team Glazer. They have never released a coach before the end of the season.
Joe again cannot see Schiano coaching the Bucs in 2014. This does not make Joe happy because Schiano’s a good dude. In the NFL, you are hired and paid to win games, which Schiano is not doing, forget about the drama that enveloped the squad this season. Schiano pretty much sealed his fate today when his team came woefully unprepared, which is the same virus that torpedoed Morris’ tenure.
October 20th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
DId anyone notice schiano yelling at Revis on the sideline… Way to go coach, that’s one of the best in the league anf you need him on your side.. I’m not sure what schiano could teach Revis anyway…
October 20th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
To your last point Joe, can anyone recall a game where we can look at the game and say “man, these guys came correct this week.” even the games we won last year weren’t ones where we roundly beat another team based on a well prepared and executed game plan. All of that is on the coach. Dropped passes, blown coverage, that’s on the guys on the field and that’s a problem that needs to be fixed, but why are we leaving the job of fixing that in the hands of a coaching staff that isn’t even getting their own job done?
October 20th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
I am ready to join in with the growing group of Bucs followers who are looking the future… I am convinced we have a seriously inadequate Coaching staff… The thing that was so glaring today was the lack of a plan, displayed through the absence of game management.
I will not suggest this Head Coach is fired before the season is over, but the Bucs Roster is way too talented, not to have the leadership of real coaching, leadership and a Big Time Offensive Coordinator!
October 20th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
I don’t even see the point in playing for the top draft pick when Jacksonville is literally TRYING to lose for it. Schiano is leading this team backwards.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
@mach – true. that’s not doing anything but widening the divide that’s growing on this team. Players are checking out. VJax looks disinterested. Revis has the respect of everyone in that locker room and if he’s looking at coach like he’s a joke that’ll carry sway. Even GMC, the ultimate company man, has alluded to players not caring for schiano’s approach and tactics.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Joe you don’t think we should draft a qb with our 1st pick???????????
October 20th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
The first series of the season is what defined the whole season.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
And Schiano’s top 3 qualities of a “Buccaneer Man” are Trust, Belief, and Accountability??? HAHAHA! If that’s the case he has tarnished the image of a “Buccaneer Man” because nobody trust him, nobody believes in him, and who’s accountable?
October 20th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
As long as we land in the top 2 I’ll be fine with that. A solid quarterback or Clowney will both be huge upgrades. A decent coach would bring out enough in Glennon to make him serviceable for another year if we can’t land a top quarterback this year
October 20th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
JonBuc Says:
October 20th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
For what it’s worth, Alex Marvez & Gil “The Godfather” Brandt talked about the likely Bucs coaching vacancy on Joe endorsed Sirius XM NFL Radio. Brandt is well thought of in NFL circles. He seems to think the Tampa opening will be a good one and coveted. Many of us(me included) are so battered right now we just don’t see it. Here’s hoping The Amish Boys get it right this time.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
This shit is not funny
This guy kick a field goal
With 5 min left in the game
Play to win that why we lost weeks
1 and 2 f$ck u schiano
October 20th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Fire Schiano and give the offensive coordinator a shot at being a head coach, he was interviewed for HC jobs last season. Give him the last half of this season and see what he can do.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
How do you know its a smear job by the NFLPA? Its sounds to me like they have the evidence and the NFL is refusing a joint investigation. I know you have made all the excuses you can for the Schiano, but a smear job is a cheap shot when you have no idea what evidence what
the NFLPA has.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
I’m done. The people that are paid to care, don’t. Why do I? Well I don’t anymore. I do have some gear for sale. Cheap! I’ve been a fan of this team since 77′ missed the 1st season, didnt know about pro football then, and moved to Mi shortly after. I’ve spent a good amount of money buying crap with Bucs all over it! I’ve raised my kids as Buc fans! For what? I’m afraid Doug Williams was right. This Franchise will always be losers! I swear it’s in the air! The water! It’s embedded in the soil at RJS. I can’t do this anymore, it’s just embarrassing!! BTW the worst fan base ever!! Chasing away Gruden was the biggest mistake EVER!!!! Bruce had to go though!! F**k the Bucs!!
October 20th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Hey prbucsfan ur take?
October 20th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
Joe letting Schiano stick around until the end of the season accomplishes nothing. Fire him now and let Mike Sullivan see what HE can do as a “working interview”.
The Bucs won’t be the only team looking for a new HC – best to get started first.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
A few reasons not to:
There are so many QBs, good ones, coming out in the draft perhaps Dominik could swing a trade like he did with Doug Martin, using a second round pick to trade up and draft a QB.
Joe is beginning to think the offensive line needs a massive upgrade. Penn is nearing the end. Demar Dotson is average at best. Ted Larsen is nothing more than a backup. Who knows about Carl Nicks and Davin Joseph? Jake Matthews would be a beautiful addition.
Of course, there is always the 2015 draft and Jameis Winston. 🙂
October 20th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
” Shiano is a good dude ” I don’t know anything good about him except he was a mediocre coach @ Rutgers and I don’t No that qualifies him has a good dude I’m thoroughly convinced that this point that unless they fire Schiano immediately we probably won’t win a single game this season and I don’t know about you but I certainly don’t want to be tied with the Detroit for the only team to lose all 16 games.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Agreed mr lucky
October 20th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Mr. Lucky:
Love ya man, you know that, but this is crazy talk.
Name an owner/head coach who will allow a coordinator to interview for a job… in October!!??? That just won’t happen.
Second, teams always have an updated list of potential coaching candidates. Amy Trask, former CEO of the Raiders, said this morning on Adam Schein’s pregame show that all teams keep an updated list of potential coaching candidates.
How many times did Chucky just miss out on a potential Hall of Famer by one draft position? Calvin Johnson and Joe Thomas spring to mind. If it means getting a stud player for a decade, so what if the team has a horrible, horrible season?
October 20th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
IMO opinion blow it all up! Drop Schiano and Dominick. Trade VJAX, GMC, Revis, and what is left of the expensive free agents. Get as many draft picks with a GM from a legit org and bring in an OC as our new head coach and let him truly build with his team and GM!
October 20th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
@ admin. I think he meant the first interview would be Sully.
October 20th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
This isn’t f@”&”&$ rocket science of course you don’t hire a HC in Oct. appoint Wannestadt intern coach for the rest of the season @ least they might win a game this year,
October 20th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
The NFLPA is not a reputable org. They are fighting for Aaron Hernandez to get back pay! Seriously this guy was worse than lawrence Phillips or whatever his name was and they want him to get paid?!
October 20th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
@ Reezy that’s you’re on the right track
October 20th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Joe, again you are wrong and another bad column. This guy deserves to be fired and fired right now. I’d day pull the plug now but I imagine the glazers wait until after the Thursday game and when we lose, cause we will, fire him and give the next coach 10 days to make a game plan. We need wins NOW!! I’m not watching so we can play for clowney and bridgewater!! The misuse of all of the bucs players the lack of discipline shows he’s in over his head and it’s time to relieve us fans of his crap!!
October 20th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
I think we should stop with the “This team has so much talent” nonsense. We obviously do not. We have a lot of high draft picks but that means squat. We have a few good, and one really good player (David) and that’s it. We better hire an executive with some gray hair and success in his background otherwise we are destined for a return to the “cycle” years. Yuck.
October 20th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
What the hell does it mean he’s a good dude? Based on his many mishaps, the latest being about Dexter Jackson, surely you jest? He is a narcissistic egomaniac with a chip on his shoulder.
October 21st, 2013 at 2:49 am
Oh, good to see moron joe’s back on the prowl!
It would be a shame to lose the voice of the uniformed fan…a real shame…
This is also the first time this ownership group has been convinced by a head coach – the same one who ACTUALLY dumped Freeman’s private information in order to force the owners hand – to clear Freeman from the team so he wouldn’t get any blowback for starting his favorite low-talent, future NFL back-up QB. He butchered his reputation in hopes of delaying Freeman from signing anywhere that had enough talent to make it look as if ‘Lil Duce’ was wrong about Freeman…
But that’s an old story – what we’re talking about today is the FACT that the owners have never given any previous head coach such a “win now” roster, never dedicated this many MILLION$$ In player & coaching payroll- while also allowing him to drag down the reputation then DUMP the former 1st round, record setting, 4 year STARTING, #itsallabout#5, franchise QB – MID season – either.
What this franchise – and this local sports media – have shown me, repeatedly over the past 30 (+) years; there’s always a first time for everything.
Can you imagine how the owners might feel if their former first round pick, whom they will have doled out $50,000,000.00 to over the past 4.2 years – has good game and wins…after they reluctantly agreed to sever said expensive relationship?
THAT actually has the potential for passion that will have ME rooting for Josh Freeman on MNF…and they’ll be NO DOUBT THRILLED to be told and shown by the likes of none other than JON FREAKIN’ GRUDEN…
…the stars are aligning on this one – and it don’t look good for Lil Duce….
October 21st, 2013 at 7:38 am
Lol White Tiger! Preach on, brother! I will be watching the game tonight just to see if Freeman pulls it off and blows Freeman-y loads all over the Giants defense while Jon Gruden speaks about how great a QB he is and wondering aloud why the Buccaneers organization ever let that talent go.
Either that or he’s gonna throw like a TD and 3 INTs lol. But we will see!