Senseless Mistakes “Baffling” To John Lynch
September 16th, 2013Legions of Bucs fans heard the disbelief in TV analyst and Bucs icon John Lynch’s voice yesterday. “Baffling that this happens at this level,” Lynch said of the Bucs’ repeated pre-snap penalties for the second consecutive game.
Lynch uttered that after Demar Dotson’s failed to toes on the line up on properly at the line of scrimmage. Dotson’s procedure penalty negated a 73-yard touchdown to Vincent Jackson.
For Joe, the Bucs getting another delay of game call to start a drive was tops among the “baffling” lack of discipline on display in the loss to the Saints.
The teamwide sloppiness is on the coaching. Greg Schiano said so himself. Joe can only suspect that players are not being drilled enough in certain areas and there is no fear of accountability for the screw-ups.
If stupidity and/or a lack of awareness are the only causes, then that’s a tough thing to fix at this point in the season — and still beat top opponents like the ones on the Bucs’ schedule.
Good luck fixing everything, Coach.
September 16th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Regardless of the QB, we have no threat at #3 WR or TE…and that hurts…it make us more predictable.
Defense is playing well, but the penalties gotta stop.
How are the coaches not getting the right personnel on the field timely?
Trust, belief, accountability? It starts with you Schiano.
September 16th, 2013 at 8:55 am
I ask you again Joe. Can you answer your own question now?
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=90782
September 16th, 2013 at 8:55 am
And yet you still bash Freeman !
How is he supposed to make up for dumb penalties and bad play calls …
Lol @ the bashers
September 16th, 2013 at 9:02 am
This whole thing stinks right now. Way too much talent for this which is why I think fans are upset. I think we can all agree we were all expecting better from this team. At least I was. If you told everyone that in the first two weeks we would give up 18 and 14 points respectively we all would have said we would be 2-0. Remember the O was not suppose to be the problem. So now what.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:05 am
Raphael,
Freeman’s numbers yesterday were worse than Tebow-like.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:07 am
How is the Bucs defense supposed to overcome a QB who cannot get into the double digits in completions? The people who just want to continue to let Freeman’s play slide are the reason this team will continue going nowhere. Thankfully they are becoming the more and more silent minority.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Freeman had 3 bad pAsses … That’s it .
September 16th, 2013 at 9:13 am
Either Schiano is not delegating offensive gametime plays or Sullivan isn’t the star we thought he was.
Remember last year we thought we would lose Sullivan?
Our playcalling is predictible and lacks any creativity. If you want a QB to suceed…you let him throw on 1st downs and 2nd and short.
Mistakes are cause by confused coaches on the sidelines….”too many cooks in the kitchen”
September 16th, 2013 at 9:14 am
The posters on PFT are roasting Schiano this morning. Waiting for Bucrightoff to come to his defense. He posts on PFT you know. Same Freeman nonsense he spouts off here.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Please, no more Lynch calling Bucs games on FOX. Not because he’s bad, I think he’s pretty good, but b/c he is in so much pain watching these dumb mistakes by his Bucs. He doesnt deserve this type of punishment.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:16 am
Haters don’t get it …
VJ falls down twice
4 dropped passes
72 yard td pass wiped out due to penalty
Coaches not getting the plays in in time
It’s not excuses , it’s called a team concept.
Freeman had some great throws and he only had 3 bad throws ..
We GAVE the saints 9 1st downs ..think about that …
September 16th, 2013 at 9:19 am
Splengo .. I know I post there with a different s/n ( shaggy)
September 16th, 2013 at 9:23 am
Everyone has a different opinion of what is wrong which is why it is all wrong.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:25 am
Can someone explain to me why we didn’t line up and 4th and 2 and try to draw them offsides? You have the timeout in your pocket that you know you’re going to use — but they don’t know that.
This is basic NFL stuff.
Schiano’s 0-5 in field-goal-or-less games speaks to some level of bad luck (5 games is a pretty small sample). But to some extent you make your luck by making the moves that give you the best chance of winning. A first down there wins the game; you absolutely have to give yourself the opportunity for the opponent to give you a free one.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:25 am
BTW. Every qb gets drops. Never seen a qb go 100% come on.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:30 am
I was listening to sports radio this morning on my drive to work and I heard several quotes from bucs defensive players talking about how “great” they played and whatnot.
Now can you picture Sapp, brooks or Lynch saying such a thing when they gave up the points on that final drive? Or Dungy?
Not a chance in hell. No excuses no explanations, didnt get the job done – thats what they would have said.
The overall mentality of this team is loserville. Nobody, including the man from Rutgers, mans up and takes responsibility. They seem to be under the impression that they won the super bowl at 7-9 last year.
Another guy said he cant worry about personal foul penalties. What?????
Its unbleievable.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:30 am
There has been CHAOS on the sidelines and Chaos on 2nd downs that lead to 3rd & Forevers! Oh yeah…passses bouncing of hands & Shoulder pads.
Maybe the Buccaneers need to Pass more often to get all imvolved used to the Idea that THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED ON OFFENSIVE WEAPONS!! Oh, and the Muscle Hamster is only 1 of them.
Do the Buccaneers Really want to find out if Freeman is the Long Term answer at QB or is Schiano hell bent on rebuilding a ready now team into THE NFL SCARLET KNIGHTS? Put the team in the hands of Josh Freeman so that the World can see if he is or isn’t a FRANCHISE QB. 22 pass plays in the Modern Era of NFL FOOTBALL is an archaic approach to Winning or is a reflection of Coaching Fear of “Flying”. More runs than passes when losing for 90% of the game is just playing NOT TO LOSE, that Generally results in Losing.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:32 am
Schiano deserves soem blame for the loss. But he is coaching our defense which looks pretty freaking good. Josh Freeman meanwhile was outgained by Doug Martin and at one point in the 4th quarter Mason Foster was only 2 yards behind Freeman. Freeman isn’t any good and the sooner the last few of his supporters come to their senses the better we will be.
Not saying Glennon is the answer, but him not being the answer doesn’t mean Josh Freeman is. Freeman is lucky Blaine Gabbert and Brandon Weeden exist otherwise he’d be the worst starter in the NFL.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Spelngo, Freeman is now on a 5 game run of 4 TDs and 15 TOs. I didn’t make that one up, thats a statistical fact. He’s averaging 0.8 TDs and 3 TOs a game. With nearly 60 starts under his belt. Thats acceptable to you? And to Raphael as well? I’m curious as to why, and don’t blame drops. Aaron Rodgers receivers have drops, so do Tom Bradys and Peyton Mannings. Ever QB has drops. Not every QB is at 45% completion.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Our offense is way to predictable. Give it to martin a bunch then throw to VJ a few times. That’s it, not to difficult to scout. We don’t have a mobile QB what-so-ever. I’m really worried about the next 2 games
September 16th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Freeman is not the answer. We see it every single Sunday. We fight hard to get the momentum and once we get it… Josh just hands it back to them on a silver platter every time. THE ANSWER IS THERE you just choose not to see it and blame everyone else.
Amazing people are still wanting to know if Josh is the answer. LMAO
September 16th, 2013 at 9:40 am
No TE and No #3 WR are hurting us.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:42 am
The saints are who we thought they were. Thats why we took the dam field!! Now if you want to crown em, then crown they’re @ss! But the Saints are who we thought they were! And we let em off the hook!!
September 16th, 2013 at 9:43 am
Trent Dilfer WAS the answer for Baltimore…think about that.
Like him or not Freeman gives us the best chance right now.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Lynch covered both games so far, and I think he’s covering next weeks game. I agree with his assessment. He’s seeing the same things the fans are seeing. An undisciplined team. The team is playing hard, but the mental mistakes are keeping them from winning. Burning timeouts when players/coaches can’t get the right personal on the field is a problem too.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Sam Bradford meanwhile appears to be turning the corner in St. Louis, and he doesn’t have a weapon on his team as good as VJax or Doug Martin, or an offensive line as good. Thats what you want to see from a guy in his 4th year as starter. Oh and he had a new coach last year and a new co-ordinator. Hmmm….thoughts Freeman defenders?
September 16th, 2013 at 9:48 am
I’m honestly torn on Freeman.
On one hand, he completed only 9 passes, and had another boneheaded interception. He, several of the “drops” were some rather poor passes (near the ground, at the knees of receivers)
On the other hand, there were numerous critical drops, untimely penalties (illegal formations, etc…) and a gameplan that reigns in the QB while simultaneously not providing many safety valve options (TE, 3rd down receiver, half back screens, etc…)
September 16th, 2013 at 9:50 am
Call up Leslie Fraiser Now and make a Deal for Spaghetti armed Non-Threatening Christian Ponder for Freeman
Then sit back and Listen to the Roar of Approval from the Vikings. Maybe then it will sink in how assinine alienating Freeman has been.
Freeman could have bailed out some of those 3rd down plays by just running for it, but why should he risk injury…..he doesn’t have anything but his
1. Previous Stats and Film
2. Youth & Health
So why risk any of that for A Buccaneers Organization that isn’t risking anything more than another top 5 draft position AGAIN. Can’t they see Freeman knows he is not being put in a Position to succeed by Schiano and the conservative run..run ..run Philosophy?
Freeman looks like a guy in (Physical) Survival mode. A just make it through the Season Healthy mentality. Can’t shop himself on the Free Agent Market with a serious injury or by taking unnecessary risks throwing. Oh no, not Interception machine reputation….just take a sack.
September 16th, 2013 at 9:58 am
It kills me that people continue to say Free is our best option, loss after loss, after heart breaking loss… at what point do you say I’m tired of watching this ignoramus stink it up every game and cost us wins. How do you know Glennon can not get us more than 125 yards? Where is the blind faith for him that you have in that proven loser Freeman?
Some of you have your priorites and loyalty all mixed up.
September 16th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Once again, Josh Freeman is going to leave the Bucs to go to a team with worse offensive weapons and play better. Who seriously believes that? And please tell me who is signing Josh as their starter next year when this is one of the most loaded QB draft classes ever? Signing Freeman is no different than drafing a QB: You are gambling on potential. The difference of course is a rookie will cost at most 4 years and $25 million, whereas Josh will probably cost you more.
September 16th, 2013 at 10:14 am
@Couch…forme it was last night. Let’s find out if it is true. maybe Glennon comes on the field and the team sparks and they play hard for him. They are not playing hard for Freeman. It seems to me the players have already turned the page on Josh, which means he will not succeed here. Maybe he will play better in a different system. The Bucs are built to win now, so maybe a game managing vet is in order. It may not be exciting, but if our defense can hold teams under 20 points we can win games. Appaarently we cannot with freeman at the helm. Count me in on the Glennon mob, sorry it took so long…