No Need To Wait To Be Great
August 21st, 2013
Bucs safety Mark Barron hopes the Bucs have the NFL’s best secondary beginning the first week of the season.
It doesn’t take a vivid imagination to smell the bad taste in Mark Barron’s mouth from the horrid Bucs pass defense. After all, many Bucs fans threw up enough watching that atrocity.
But the past is the past, as players like to say. Barron’s done with talking about the past. Part of that is because he believes the Bucs have a shot at having the best secondary in the NFL. The experience that newcomers Darrelle Revis and Dashon Goldson bring is one reason.
“It got frustrating,” Barron said. “There was a lot going on. We were the best run defense in the league so teams wanted to come after us (with the pass). We want to go from last to first.”
The first step to accomplishing that goal was simple.
“I feel like we have better players, period,” Barron said.
It’s not just better players, but what those players (Darrelle Revis, Dashon Goldson) bring, years of experience Barron noted is already paying off.
“That experience is an advantage for a real young team,” Barron said. “We need that experience. If [Goldson] sees something that needs to be corrected or some kind of an issue, it will get addressed whether it is something in the secondary or the whole team.”
As for Revis, Barron said, “It is good to have that help. He is a smart guy to alert you as to what might be coming, things that come with experience.”
Joe asked Barron if the Bucs secondary may be a late bloomer. While most of the secondary has been playing together since OTAs, it hasn’t been until this week that Revis has been able to practice with the first team defense regularly. Barron disagreed.
“Hopefully it doesn’t take that long,” Barron said. “We want to go out Week 1 and be at our peak. That is always the goal to come out that first game and be at the top level.”
August 21st, 2013 at 2:26 pm
You can have Revis and Dion Sanders in the secondary, and w/o a pass rush, they will be picked apart.
Tampa let our best pass rusher go, depending on Bowers and Clayborn to “do what they were drafted to do”.
But then, Bowers reports to camp, grossly out of shape!
How could we allow this to happen, to depend on someone like Bowers who is out of football shape.
Even a stupid Bird will test a perch, before he lands on it.
Why was there no monitoring of Bowers physical condition, since we are depending so much on him to step up, and provide a pass rush ?
August 21st, 2013 at 2:50 pm
The pass rush has been disappointing in the preseason which I hardly pay attention to. Its nice to see if some of the rookies and young backups will be competent but nothing more. Last year the Patriots were 1-3 in the preseason and we were one of their 3 losses. Gotta wait to judge until there is a game of 2 of regular season disappointment.
August 21st, 2013 at 2:51 pm
*game or 2*
August 21st, 2013 at 2:58 pm
^^^ With that being said, I’d rather the bird “test the perch” with Revis and Goldson than without them…
“Batman and Robin” are basically “coaching” our secondary up (maybe in a more impactful way than Ronde).
No, secondaries can’t cover forever, but if there is a secondary that can come close—why can’t it be the back end of the Bucs D?
*Strategy: You know your pass rush stinks but last year your D-Line can stop the run (hopefully again). Why not put a shut-dow
August 21st, 2013 at 2:58 pm
“No Need to wait to be great”. I think alot of Us have been trying to tell the Bucs and the pop-star this for 5 straight off-seasons!
August 21st, 2013 at 2:59 pm
n corner on one side and a ball-hawk on the other side?
August 21st, 2013 at 3:00 pm
But then, Bowers reports to camp, grossly out of shape!
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Who said this? Last I checked Schiano himself said everyone passed the conditioning. Including Bowers. Theres no way he can be grossly out of shape as you say, if he passed that test. Out of football shape I guess is a different story.
August 21st, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Hate to break to mark Barron but if the pass rush doesn’t improve you’re looking at a bottom 5 finish again.
Dexter Jackson said it this morning. Those moves mean nothing if your front isn’t pressuring the qb.
August 21st, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I think by game 4 (post Brees & Brady) the secondary will allow more time for a sack than any other. Those two QB’s will be a huge learning curve for the non-pro-bowl DB’s along with Veteran DB’s on-field coaching…
August 21st, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Let me get this right, so if our corners defend for a second or two longer you guys don’t believe McCoy or Claiborn will get to the passer. Bowers might not but 93 and 94 are having their best camps. I just don’t think the pass rush will be as big a problem as some of you think.
August 21st, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Seems I recall a ton of quarterback hurries against the Pats – four I think just by Bowers. Apparently many here don’t realize that a hurry means the QB was out of time or be sacked. A secondary holds the line another half second and the QB goes down, throws the ball away, or puts up a duck.
What a bunch of cry babies. And over a pre season game against one of the best teams in football no less, played mostly by subs and guys that will be driving a truck in a few weeks.
There were several guys that stepped up and played well. Spence, Gannon, Ogletree, James, Page, Gorrer and Melvin to name a few. Where’s the shout out to them? Too busy whining about minutia to see anything positive happening. The regular season can’t come soon enough so we can have some real issues to complain about.
August 21st, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Tampa Bay has great pass rushers. Every single one should have double digit sacks.
Said no one ever.
August 21st, 2013 at 6:48 pm
How about waiting until we play a game with our starters intact before we say anything about ‘pressure’ or how bad our secondary is going to be, etc. God I hate preseason. It brings out the idiots.
August 21st, 2013 at 6:59 pm
“Bobby Says:
August 21st, 2013 at 6:48 pm
How about waiting until we play a game with our starters intact before we say anything about ‘pressure’ or how bad our secondary is going to be, etc. God I hate preseason. It brings out the idiots.”
But it’s soooo hard to stay upbeat, as bad as the first team played, on both sides. Yeah, maybe Brady, God that he is, was hurried, but he still sliced us up , like Swiss cheese. Ah well, I’ll try, just for you, Bobby, just for you.
August 21st, 2013 at 9:03 pm
@CMURDA,the final score of preseason games have nothing to do with the starters=New England didn’t go 1-3 their backups did.Wish u guys would stop posting this dumb s$#t.
August 22nd, 2013 at 12:04 am
That picture is now my desktop on my phone
August 22nd, 2013 at 5:37 am
Solaire: Too bad that play drew a penalty.
It sure does Bobby. Why these “fans” get so worked up has me worried that these people are actually out walking among us.
August 22nd, 2013 at 11:55 am
Why is everyone acting like we don’t have any pass rushers?
Last time I checked, Gerald McCoy is one of the best DTs in the league. Adrian Clayborn was boss before his injury, and Da’Quan Bowers was actually projected to be a 1st overall pick due to his ridiculous talent.
Come on people. The talent is there. The guys just need experience.
You’re really gonna look at our defense and say the d-line (which contributed to the #1 ranked run defense) is responsible for our bad pass defense when we were starting bums like Danny Gorrer in the secondary last year? I mean come on! I’m not saying we’re the Giants or anything, but let’s not act like we don’t have a defensive line!