Nickel Needs In The Spotlight
August 24th, 2013
Greg Schiano talked this week about how you don’t just plug a cornerback into the nickel position because he’s not as good as a team’s top two cornerbacks or is a liability on the outside.
It’s a darn tough job, Schiano explained, and nickel requires diverse skills and mature awareness.
So who is the Bucs’ nickel cornerback? It’s a critical position, especially in the NFC South.
Ronde Barber is busy bashing Josh Freeman. Eric Wright is back in California where he belongs. Danny Gorrer has missed two weeks of practice with a blown groin. Rookie Johnthan Banks is learning the ropes on the outside in Darrelle Revis’ absence.
Last year, the Bucs pulled Brandon McDonald off the street to be their nickel cornerback on opening day. He’s now out of football at 27 years old. Veteran Michael Adams has plenty of experience at nickel in Arizona, and Leonard Johnson is a hard worker and has talent, but he has to develop and he’s hardly the quickest guy on the block.
Joe will be watching the nickel position closely tonight. Sean Peyton and friends likely are keeping an eye on it, too.
August 24th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
My money is on Adams. His experience is needed.
Anyone watching my Byrnes whooping some butt on espn? They’re not even ranked…smdh.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
There is something wrong with my head this week. First I say the Bucs will go to the AFC Championship game (yes, a clear brain fart) and then I think the Bucs don’t play till Saturday. I would have missed the game if I had not just come to JBF.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
I’m sorry but I can’t get my head wrapped around what Joe said. When did Ronde bash Freeman? Was there something lost in translation when he said that Freeman can’t carry the team on his back. That’s hardly bashing. I presumed he meant he can’t carry the team on his back. In my world, team means team, not just offense but the entire team.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RBellBuc,
Ronde was in studio, during the Pats halftime game and said, “Freeman is mistake prone. He can’t carry an offense”.
Definitely not a great endorsement, and not false.
Ronde called it like he sees it.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Duh…i
August 24th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Duh…it IS Saturday…man I need sleep. I thought today was friday, lol.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
“and then I think the Bucs don’t play till Saturday.”
Bonzai, they do play on Saturday…? lol jejeje 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
I went back and read what he said,
“If they get away from Doug Martin, they don’t have the offense they’re anticipating having this year,” “Because Josh Freeman can’t carry it by himself. We all know that. He’s prone to mistakes. Doug Martin, he’s the guy that puts the team on your back and you run with him.”
He stated what is clearly true about being prone to make mistakes, but I think what he meant by putting it together is Josh is prone to make mistakes if he alone is expected to carry the team. It maybe constructive criticism but hardly bashing. Hopefully Freeman did hear those words of wisdom even though he says he don’t pay attention to outside noise.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
stevek Says: August 24th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RBellBuc,
Ronde was in studio, during the Pats halftime game and said, “Freeman is mistake prone. He can’t carry an offense”.
That’s not the actual quote.
He said something like “they can’t just rely on Josh Freeman to win games. We know Josh makes mistakes. They need other players to step up too.”
Note the last word. “Too.” Meaning “also.” Meaning he believe Josh will step up, but Josh can’t do everything himself.
Elite QBs make mistakes as well. I saw several overthrow and underthrow passes often the last 2 weeks.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
PRBucFan
Yeah, I typed a post that it is Saturday and not Friday like I thought but the filter blocked it. More Duh moments to add. Hehe.
August 24th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Buc’s football tonight!!! Can’t wait!! Getter done Josh! Give us something to get excited about!
August 24th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
ahahaha 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
I know theres just a 1% chance that Coach starts Glennon….but man would it be awesome to see him start the first series, pull him, install Josh for the next series..and then keep repeating it the whole first half.
That would make my day 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Yeah, right, screw with your starter’s mind by starting someone else, makes all the sense in the world. Not a chance in hell coach will do that before he’s totally sure Free’s not his man.
August 24th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
I don’t know how that could be beneficial for either QB. It would be difficult to build any momentum if you’re changing the signal caller every series.
Isn’t it time we see what Freeman can do, there hasn’t been much to go on this preseason to see where he is in his development. I’ve personally seen enough of Glennon to put my mind at ease for #2 QB.
August 24th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Its the preseason….games that only matter for evaluation purposes. Why Not? Josh will have plenty of time starting against the Jets.
August 24th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
I would also like to see Glennon play a series with the starters.
Doesn’t mean he has to to start, but I want to see how he fares.
Regardless, I am looking forward to watching him play tonight.
His poise and his beautiful passes are exciting to watch.
August 24th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
@PR, He’ll make some rookie mistakes, always happens, but thats how you build him and tap his potential.
August 24th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
I don’t understand your logic. Why would you want our starting QB to knock the rust off in the first game of the regular season? That doesn’t make sense to me. I thought we wanted to win? Oh well to each his own I guess.
August 24th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
I didnt say that. Im saying play Josh against their 2nds and 3rds to see how he does. Rotate them the first half to see what we have in Glennon. And if Josh is relly that rusty, leave him out there the 2nd half.
Bowers is getting the same treatment, so why not?
August 24th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
you see, this is how it starts….all of the Freeman fans who want to gang up on the Glennon fans (who are also BUCCANEER fans…DUH!)
I didnt say I want us TO NOT win. I said its preseason, evaluation time, yes I’d like us to win (DUH!).
August 24th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Let’s just say the 1% comment I agreed with 100%. 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Thats works buddy 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RBellBuc …it’s just someting your going to have to deal with on JBF. Lot’s of nonsense.
August 24th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Go read 1987’s Wendy’s rant in the Davin thread for the definition of “nonsense”
Dude, really?
August 24th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
Exactly,
“Soggy French fries, melted frostee, I love that place…”
Talk about a Double YawnBurger with cheese….
August 24th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
I’m not trying to start anything. I was just asking for clarification. I’m not questioning anybodys fandom. I was curious that’s all. If you guys have some feud going on just leave me out of it.
August 24th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
You don’t have to answer this but you called me a Freeman fan for asking a question? I happen to like both and hope if one gets hurt or fails the other can step in. I’m a fan. I don’t choose sides. I like the team regardless of its flaws. No more questions. I’m sorry for participating.
August 24th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RBellBuc…no feud at all. I was told by a guy named Max that he was going to skip over my comments that’s all. I guess it’s too hard for him not to. Carry on.
August 24th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RBellBuc….not a problem man. Sorry if I offended you. Please keep posting here…its open for everyone 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RBellBuc…since I have not seen you on the site before. Here’s a brief description of what MadMax thinks of Josh Freeman.
Mad Max Says :
“Im not joking folks! Im tired of waiting on Josh to fix what is un-fixable, where the potential has ran its course, and the slow brain is what it is. Like it or not, I dont care. Thats what I see! And any of you F’ers want to F with me for not attempting to blindly share the sniffing duties of Josh’s jock strap can eat jit and kiss my azzz…I wont even respond to you anymore…you cant fix stupid!”
August 24th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
@1987, you’re like an accident that nobody wants to see, but its hard to look away from it….thats all 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
And that was directed to YOU 1987 and the few others who hate us for criticizing Josh…..
Go ahead, keep reposting everything Ive said…..you’re helping the cause, hahahaha!
August 24th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
How much vodka have you been drinking so far 1987?
August 24th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Ok …you guys can have your battlefield to yourselves. Although it is a little disturbing what might have been was said, I wasn’t here to witness it. I choose to be open minded. I know Freeman has many flaws but even so I think he’s our best bet to win. Bless Glennons efforts he’s just going to have to wait. In the mean time I guess I’m a jock sniffer. I hope that doesn’t make me less than a fan either. 🙂 Go Bucs! Squish the Fish!!!
August 24th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Listen, I’ve seen Freeman for all of 21 plays this year and I have every right to criticize him because…..welll….last year damnit! I have no clue how he’s gonna do this year so I’m just gonna keep on bashing him for last year because that’s what I do…I’m a true Buc fan, yeah…that’s me. Don’t get on my case for being negative and hatin’ on everything Bucs….I’m a fan see! Yeah, that’s what I am…GO GLENNON!!!! See…told you I loved the Bucs!
Cheesh!
August 24th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
No one has insulted you Bell, move alone if you don’t want to get “caught up” in it as you claim 😉
August 24th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Lol this is all so ironic
As far as Freeman is concerned we will all have our answer soon enough and this tired debate can end once and for all. I’m certain however that some’s life will seem rather empty without having the same drum to beat all day every day.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
One week from right now, 37 guys on this roster will no longer be on this roster. Time for some folks to step up.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
PrBucFan and SteveK…. 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Who are you? I don’t remember talking with you. Move along? What are you the thread police? Don’t get in my business. I never said I was insulted. MadMax and I are good. Right MadMax?
August 24th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
Hopefully freeman shuts up lots of fans by having a solid season. I do like Glennon, but I think Freeman is the answer. Time will tell
August 24th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
I don’t remember needing permission to address you
You claim not to want to be caught up in it yet refer to yourself as a jock sniffer with the insinuation that someone here had insulted you with such a name.
Your not coy, so i took the liberty to say what I felt.
So if indeed you aren’t trying to be “caught up” in it don’t reference yourself with names as if you had been addressed in such a manner.
That is all.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
P.S. This is a public thread, you have no private business here.
Join a private chat if you desire that.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
We’re good…so is PR…and get it right, buc1987 is the thread police, whose on constant patrol under the influence of vodka.
Ah heck, Im having some beers tonight too…not trying to say anything against those who drink (only against my biggest fan, 1987 because of his vodka induced nonsensical rants)
Im ready to throw down some yellow pepsis and see our Bucs kick some BUTT tonight!
August 24th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Neither has anyone said your “less of a fan” as also was insinuated.
But that is all the energy I’m going to expend here lol.
Time to move along to the game day thread.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
LETS GO!!!!!!!
August 24th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Ok I’m out of here the thread police has made it pretty clear i guess that if you question him or others this is the treatment you will receive. This may be a public thread but apparently whatever you do don’t go against the resident thread police if you don’t won’t to be scolded like some child. Go Freeman! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it PRBUCFAN ..lmfao
August 24th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
@ Bobby and RBellBuc..yeah can you imagine if this fool were to walk into RJS and say that kind of crap about Freeman?
August 24th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Rbell seems like ur the only one making since but everyone entitled to their opinions
August 24th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
LMAO
What are the Freemanites going to beat him up like the pre-teen Bieber fans do?
August 24th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
NO I look at myself as the thread documenter. This place is so full of dumb Buc fans, that their quotes need to be documented. Maxipad gets upset so much at me. He tries to paint this picture that I’m an alcoholic or something to invalidate my points. Tells me not to bash other people in here. Then turns around and does the same himself. I keep a record of these threads and what’s been said and by whom, so that people can understand where they are coming from. Also to throw them in their face at the end of the season. Just to show how dumb they actually were.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Couch Fan…no the fact is he would not say it at RJS!
August 24th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
I can come meet you anytime Buc1987, you’re 43, Im 41…I’ll say it IN YOUR FACE AND FKN DARE YOU TO DO SOMETHING TO ME!!!!!
August 24th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Couch Fan…you do remember RJS right? You know the place you never go to.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Look at him now. I did not say, say it to me. I meant stand in front of a crowd of Buc fans at RJS and say it. See how well it goes over.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
….psh…the knowledgeable fans who know where Im coming from would back me up though!
…psh…I called you out and you pussed out! Fk you Btch!!
August 24th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Maxipad…perhaps you should stick to tampons from now on.
August 24th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
weak….
August 24th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
That all you got?
STILL WEAK……
August 24th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
Couch Fan…you do remember RJS right? You know the place you never go to.
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First of all you have no idea whether I go to games or not. Assuming makes an even bigger idiot out of you thank you already are… becareful, or I may make you cry and leave again. LOL
August 24th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Couch Fan…you said so yourself.
August 24th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Look at the 2 keyboard warriors…the ones with all the knowledge!
August 24th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
….and the balls to back it up!
August 24th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Joe is on this…sorry for getting out of hand Joe.
August 24th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
I stay on site. So that anyone new that comes into JBF and is optimistic about Freeman or the team can understand where the negative fools are coming from. I’ve been a fan long enough to know that the fan base is filled with dumb fans. So I will keep a file on my PC labled Dumb Buc Fans Comments. At the end of the season when all the dumb fans are proven to be what they are…dumb, I can show them just how dumb they were back in August or throughout the season. Enjoy the game. I hope Freeman throws 3 picks and fumbles once in this meaningless preseason game, just to get the dumb ones riled up.
August 24th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Again your not coy, but you can avoid the point I was making by calling me the thread police. That’s fine 😉
Saying one thing and insinuating the other lol.
Good stuff. I’m always up for a good laugh.
@1987
You ready for some football!?!?!?
I am pumped lol
August 24th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Unlike you 1987, I hope Freeman hits all of his targets. I WANT Freeman to BEAST….for crying out loud man,,,,,,,,good gosh….
You have problems handling people who dont agree with your opinion.
August 24th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
He’s actually quite funny. The random tantrums and all.
August 24th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Yup! lol.