In Free We Trust?
August 24th, 2013
Josh Freeman didn’t look the franchise-quarterback part tonight.
Does it matter? Yes and no.
Preseason is meaningless except for how it’s evaluated by coaches. A crummy preseason potentially could affect how much time the Bucs brass gives Freeman to be successful in 2013.
Tonight Freeman was sacked five times and needlessly fumbled a ball away. The Bucs’ franchise quarterback was 6-for-16 for 59 yards. It was a heinous performance, regardless of the handful of times when Freeman’s receivers and his pass protection let him down.
Joe’s been firmly in Freeman’s camp. If Mike Glennon plays this season, then the Bucs likely are in massive trouble. However, that doesn’t mean the Bucs wouldn’t turn to Glennon if the organization gave up on Freeman.
Joe’s overall assessment of Freeman hasn’t changed. But tonight surely fueled the Mike Glennon Mob and injected more doubt in the head of the Bucs hierarchy.
“I don’t know if they’re really feeling comfortable right now,” Ronde Barber said of Freeman on the TV broadcast.
August 24th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Preseason…..
August 24th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
Your wrong joe, 4 drops , missed blocks by te’s … But hey whatever get people to post .. Whybdontbyou write about VJ and his 2 drops or Mike Williams and his 2 drops or # 82 totally whiffing on a block
August 24th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
@Raphael — Please tell Joe what he’s “wrong” about in this post. Take your emotions out of it. … (Obviously, Joe will be writing more about this game.)
August 24th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
I felt Ogletree was slow and lazy on his routes for his first two targets. And a third string TE vs Dwight freeney at any age is terrible. Free had some great throws dropped. If just a couple of those are made then the rhythm is established and Freeman looks good.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Freeman sux. There are no more excuses. Start Glennon now. Don’t prolong this crap.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
FREEMAN AND THE BUCS SUCK MORE THEN JOES WEBSITE
Joe’s allowing this post as evidence of the dozens of stupid comments Joe must deal with/trash daily. –Joe
August 24th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
@Mean D shut up you obviously are not watching the same game I’m watching Free (like any QB has bad plays) but when the O Line plays like their paper thin, what elite QB completes passes? Glennon isn’t doing Anything better so cut your noise. It’s pre season loosen your panties
August 24th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Freeman and offense looked terrible ! What is this team doing in OTAs and training camp ?!? We should look sharp when the #1s are out there and I don’t see it ?
August 24th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
I like Glennon do t get me wrong just chill out on freeman. Wright just dropped Glennon’s pass should we say bring in Dan?
August 24th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Nothing about this game was crisp, therefore Joe is correct
August 24th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Ive been doing my best through training camp and preseason to stay positive about #5. I really am not wanting to start over with a rookie but Josh looked horrible. Slow, unsure, sloppy, inaccurate, and lost.
Im not feeling warm fuzzies about our season. I was actually thinking we could go 11-5. I now think its more like 5-11. Ryan T. looked so much better and hes only in his second preseason with limited starts in college.
I sure hope Im wrong.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
After tonight I will not call Freeman a Moron again. He has been downgraded to Idiot. Franchise QB my butt. Same loser he has been at every level..the curse of Rah.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
I share in the Freeman frustration even though I’m a huge fan of his. Anyone watching the game with any intelligence at all should be worried about way more than the QB situation. First; how can a revamped D get abused in the first quarter by this offense? They had the ball for what? Nine minutes! This Miami team isn’t that good, but they drove up and down the field on us. Also; what about this offensive line? Supposed to be a strength…..No Way! Dropped passes; over throws; wrong routes; no blocking; no emotion at all; first team D giving up huge chunks of yardage; too many things going wrong right now.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
OMG, Freeman is singing a rap song on the sidelines! Lol.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
@ Joe , I already did tell you what you were wrong about . 4 drops , missed blocks…. He is our Franchise Qb and will lead us to the playoffs this year…
I just think your feeding into the dumb fans who don’t know football, by bashing freeman over a pre season game…
August 24th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Bottom line if it wasn’t for a strong performance from the defense and Dave W. Lighting a fire on special teams ( I swear Adam Jones pushed his man into Thigpen on purpose, good play by him) this game would look a lot worse.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
When #20..in my opinion the BEST all around Buc other than Leroy is down on Free, maybe that tells us why he didn’t come back. We can debate about Brooks and Alstott as well but I think Ronde is the epitome of what a player means to the community. We were blessed to have him and will miss him this year.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
So Joe, why so high on a serial loser of dubious intelligence? Disagree with Beckles on Free’s football IQ? Clown is a serial loser
August 24th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Very few bright spots tonignht. Good thing it’s only preseason because right now we don’t look like a very good football team!
August 24th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
Frees a boob, clearly you don’t listen or watch romde’s interviews he said free is
The best QB Bucs has ever had. And he’s mighty high on Free.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Any one besides me worried about this year? Freeman had a BAD night but others played like $$$$ also. Lot of work and so little time.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
@ Raphael
You might help your cause by not being so over the top with every post. I actually feel bad for your keyboard as hard as you must be beating that thing.
Wish we could put some of your raw emotion into Freeman, because he severely lacks in that department.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
Freeman, Bowers and the offensive line have regressed. Banks, Spence look like they belong in NFL. Leonard Johnson, Mason Foster looked solid. Good to see Adrian Clayborn back. Trevor Scott looks interesting. I think Freeman will be franchised no matter how good he plays this year. I believe this will give Tampa an additional year to evaluate Freeman and Glennon without having to give Freeman a boat load of money.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
So we are just going to sweep Glennon’s 2 for 8 performance against many players who will be future insurance salesman, huh? just making sure. Either way if either QB plays like how we played tonight (given line break downs/unfinished routes ect.) We will be essentially better off Tanking for Teddy
August 24th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
This was just flat out embarrassing!!!!!!
August 24th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Free’s A Boob Says: August 24th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
“When #20..in my opinion the BEST all around Buc other than Leroy is down on Free…”
Barber pretty much set the record straight on the tonight. He called Freeman the best qb the bucs have had AND said he believes Josh will become elite.
I know you eith didn’t hear it or you didn’t mention it because it doesn’t support your opinion.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
its not, In Free We Trust? its, In Free We Trust!
August 24th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
Didn’t read the comments so forgive me if this has already been mentioned.
Did anyone else think the play calling was terrible in this game? (Possibly intentionally.) Constant (what seemed like) five and seven step drops when Miami was quite obviously generating a lot of pressure.
I imagine in a real game they would call more three step drops to defeat all the blitzing and bad pass protection.
I know this won’t be the general consensus but I thought the offensive line, WR drops, and play calling were AT LEAST as bad Freeman if not worse. Not sure what a QB can do when he pegs a WR in the chest and it falls to the ground but whatever. Really just a sloppy day for the ENTIRE offense in general. Too bad it’s all Freeman’s fault anyway.
On a side note, Akeem Spence looks like a man beast out there. Should be every bit as good as Roy Miller, if not better.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
I would love to see JF5 get better, I just don’t think its ever going to happen. I’ve seen no progress in JF5 or what ever excuse can be conjured up. I don’t know what the answer is, but I don’t think we are looking at it today.
If the Bucs were not gifted 3 short field situations due to turn overs, they would have scored no points.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
@ gotbbucs , no worries about my ” cause”. Dont think I am emotional or over the top….I am a huge fan and tell it like I see it….
August 24th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Why does Joe always say that if Glennon plays this season, the Bucs are in “massive trouble”?
How do you figure? Rookies doing well at QB isn’t uncommon anymore.
I’d rather see a rookie make rookie mistakes than a 5th year QB making rookie mistakes.
Freeman SUCKS.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
What excuse will the coaching staff have this time..Didn’t they say they were game planing for this game………..
August 24th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Freeman looked like Freeman, inconsistent, if it weren’t for all those Miami turnovers we would have lost this game for sure.
August 24th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
If anyone wants Free cut after that game you might as well cut the whole damn offense. There wasn’t a single brightspot on offense including Mike Glennon who managed to do worse than Free
August 24th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Man let’s hope it’s just a preseason thing, cause that really was God awful play by Free.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
How about that?????
Thats all!…..
August 24th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Rapheal how about the over throws and the underthows dropping the ball ??????
August 24th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
@SeanyMac….words of wisdom 🙂
August 24th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Bust in waiting….
August 24th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
He is better than Steve DeBerg, Vinny, Jack Thompson, Trent Dilfer, Shaun King, Steve Spurrier, Luke McCown, Byron Leftwich….
Yeah, we’re totally set.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Cant wait to hear the excuses.
I know it is preseason but for a team on the rise this kind of performance should not happen.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Bash bash bash all you want. Freeman is the starter of MY Bucs week 1.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
Solaire of Astora ….yup!
August 24th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Freeman has simply not shown enough progress.
He still has a wonky, half-sidearm delivery resulting in tips and bat-downs. He still looks completely lost at times. He still wildly overthrows receivers. He still takes needless sacks. He still has “communication problems” with receivers, causing him to look at them like “where were you on that route?” He still doesn’t adjust quickly enough when his first read is closed. He still has a tenuous grasp of the offense. And, he just doesn’t have that “it” factor.
He’s going into his fifth year as a pro, and he still has all the same issues he had in college.
Sorry, but many of us have given Freeman the benefit of the doubt long enough. At this point, we’ve seen nothing that suggests Freeman really gives us any better chance to win week-to-week than Glennon, even though we know Glennon would make a ton of rookie mistakes if and when he ever starts.
Man, I hope for his sake Freeman pulls it together and shines the first few games this season. Because if he doesn’t, I think Schiano won’t hesitate to give Glennon the nod.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
I think Martin in the backfield will make things easier on Josh. Martin will keep defenses off balance.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
I see the 6-16 50+ yards, sacked 5 times and a fumble.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
Was Freeman screwed, or did he suck? Both?
Glennon do ok?
It would be awesome to make the 2013 playoffs.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Illuminati Says :
“Man, I hope for his sake Freeman pulls it together and shines the first few games this season. Because if he doesn’t, I think Schiano won’t hesitate to give Glennon the nod.”
I think your right!
August 24th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
I may be wrong but that wasn’t Dwight Freeney that played for the Colts, he’s in San Diego. This Freeney is just a scrub that Freeman thought was that Freeney. More proof Freeman is just a deer in the headlights out there. Start Glennon and let him grow. It worked or Wilson, RGIII, Luck Tannehill, Ryan, Flacco, ETC. He will make mistakes but he can learn from them, Freeman just seems to regress every week. I guess the teachings of Olsen and Rah Rah are too hard to unlearn for Freeman.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Does Freeman like being a QB in the NFL?
What the hell happend, got outplayed by Tannehill? Tannehill was a WR in college 3 years ago.
Josh was 10-6, 3 years ago……
REGRESSION!!!!!! It has to stop, no BS Freemanites, substantial improvement is required or else he will find his ass on the bench.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
@ Buc1987
Yeah, you talk a lot about anyone who speaks the truth as “bashing” Freeman or the Bucs. You also talk a lot about how the Bucs are YOUR team and other people aren’t “true” fans.
If your brother was an obnoxious drunk and your sister was a raving bitch, you’d still love them unconditionally, even if they sometimes make you angry and embarrass you. Why? Because you know them better than anyone else and you have a lifetime attachment to them. It doesn’t mean you would be oblivious to their flaws.
The Buccaneers (and Freeman) often make me angry and embarrass me, but I remain a true fan, and they’ll always be my team. True fans are often the team’s harshest critics. Why? Because we know them better than anyone else and have a lifetime attachment to them. We’re not oblivious to their flaws, and genuinely want to see them improve and succeed.
You can bury your head in the sand and pretend everything is rainbows and unicorns if you want, but this team has flaws and could be improved. True fans recognize the team’s flaws, and openly criticize the team (or individual players), yet still remain fans through and through.
Commitment doesn’t require blind devotion.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
^ Ok, I am good, sorry.
It frustrates me to no end to see young QBs doing BIG THINGS everywhere else.
QB play is everything.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Well said “Illuminati”, I couldn’t agree more.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
(Possibly intentionally.)
What on earth does that imply?
August 24th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Andrew Luck
RG3
Russel Wilson
Andy Dalton 2 times
^^^Playoff QBs, as rookies and beyond.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
@PRBucFan
I think WCBF was suggesting that the playcalling was intentionally vanilla, so as not to reveal too much. After all, we have to play the Dolphins in the regular season, too.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
Glennon can move the ball. Freeman can’t.
I think that speaks for itself.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
I am sure New England is panicking over the 40-9 beat down they suffered to the Lions.
That they possibly withheld the playbook so as not to reveal too much to a team we play in the regular season.
Think about it. If you saw all the pressure the Dolphins were generating after one quarter, wouldn’t you start calling more screens and three step drops? There was no play calling adjustment at any time to try and compensate for the ridiculous pressure Miami was generating. Freeman was bad but there is not a single person on the offense or staff that did anything to help.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
This is getting stupid guys. Stop for Christ-sake. He stunk, he’s our starter, he’s the Achilles of this roster.
@raphael, 1987,
Would you guys please with the unsolicited Pro-Freeman propaganda. Man you guys sound silly defending a horrific preseason. You all have more sense than that.
We all know the film don’t lie and his numbers aren’t lying right now. He looks unconfident and unstable, probably from the criticism. Nonetheless, he has 3 weeks to pull his head put the sand to lead and succeed or fail. If not he will be a Jaguar or Jet next year (maybe).
August 24th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Didn’t see Illuminati’s comment. He is correct.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Free sucked more suck age than the rest of the O. Glennon closed the win. I been sayin it all along
August 24th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
what whoa someone said leonard johnson looked solid…how and where while he was standing on the sidelines. He should have lead the team in tackles because everytime they threw his way it was a first down it seems….were not worried about the outside corners but theres no one to take ronde’s place he held down all these years, too bad gorrer is hurt because he was ahead of johnson on the depth chart.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
OK I understand.
I misinterpreted what your wrote. My bad.
August 24th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Or rather I read it incorrectly lol
August 24th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
No problem.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:03 am
I would add to Architek’s statement that being justifiably critical of Freeman’s demonstrated flaws does not imply being pro-Glennon. Our team is full of flaws but Freeman is the brittle tip of the spear. Yep, Glennon is a rookie and is not ready. He’s no more the answer at this stage than Freeman is. Duh.
There is absolutely no reason not to keep looking for an answer at QB because Freeman very likely ain’t it, and the early drafting of a decent QB with lots of potential makes it clear that the staff are on the same page.
I’ve been a Bucs fan literally since I can remember and will be on the day I die (if they stay in Tampa). Ray Perkins was not the Bucs, nor was Raheem Morris, nor is Josh Freeman, and my criticism of these characters is based in disgust with their mediocrity.
Get over yourself with this idea that being a true fan means supporting mediocre people who happen to be employed by the organization despite the overwhelming evidence that they are detrimental and should be replaced.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:05 am
Illuminati Says :
“Man, I hope for his sake Freeman pulls it together and shines the first few games this season. Because if he doesn’t, I think Schiano won’t hesitate to give Glennon the nod.”
Buc1987 says :
I think your right!
I’m agreeing with you jacknut there was no sarcasm in my statement at all Illuminati.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:43 am
@ Illuminati….Don’t get me wrong. Which obviously you have. Buc fans are very much entitled to their own opinions. It’s when a Buc fan always posts something negative about this aspect of the team and that aspect of the team that drives me effing crazy.The ones that never have anything positive to say. They bash this about the team and that about the team. Not just negative crap about Josh. There are people here that do it and never follow up with I hope I’m wrong. Your not one of them. Some of them say the most idiotic stuff about the Bucs. That’s when I either question their fandom or intelligence. I’ll admit I am a hot head when it comes to MY Bucs. It’s hard for me to control not attacking people, when I have such an optimistic view of this season. I take nothing from these preseason games, 1st string or otherwise. If Freeman plays like he did tonight in the regular season, real games and stays that way through the first 4 games. I’m on board for benching him myself. I still just don’t see it happening though, I still think he will have a great season. I’m for the good of the team too, just like everyone else.
As for the rest of you whom I’ve probably pissed off. I’ll try and tone down my rhetoric, once again. I can’t make any promises, but I’ll try.
August 25th, 2013 at 6:45 am
For Freeman to have lost 25 lbs last year, he looks awfully slow. Seems like the “fat Freeman” moved quicker; or did the fat Freeman think quicker?
BRING BACK FAT FREE!!!
I had high hopes, but the acquisition of Revis has put too much pressure on Freeman and he can’t handle the “win now” implication.
I hate to say it, but the dude has a LOSER MENTALITY that transmits itself throughout the whole team. He’s physically gifted, but mentally inept and he knows it. Not that he isn’t smart, but he looks confused out there.
It takes him too long to process information, and when he does, it’s a 50/50 chance that he’ll place the ball properly for a reception.
Again not saying he’s un-intelligent, but having Freeman as QB is like having a beautiful girlfriend with a football IQ of 50. Let’s just accept him for what he is.
He’s a fashion show MODEL and not much more…
August 25th, 2013 at 7:07 am
When I think of Freeman, I think of “Carnation Milk”. Dude is SOFT…
I’ve been a Buc Fan since the beginning and have seen some TERRIBLE Buc QB’s. But no QB has given me the high hopes that Freeman has, yet performed 25- 60% of what I perceived their capability to be like Freeman.
Trent Dilfer sucked. But what can you say? He was TRENT DILFER! You can’t squeeze blood out of an onion. He gave you 90-100% of what he was capable of.
Freeman on the other hand is shiny, the ceiling is very high, but production-wise you get the equivalent a Masarati that has electrical problems. It’s supposed to be a high end vehicle but it just doesn’t work properly…
Watching Freeman is like watching a Cheetah walk through invisible mud…
All you ask is WTF is wrong with this Cheetah???
August 25th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Freeman isn’t the only guy on the Bucs that I’m scrutinizing. I’m still not sold on the liar coach Schiano…
Yes, the same coach who said that Nicks had a “blister” while knowing that MRSA was running rampant throughout the facility.
Schiano is used to telling young college guys that the sky is purple and not blue without being challenged.
“Hey Dominik, don’t sign any vet D-lineman because they will see through my BS defensive scheme and will challenge my concepts!” – G. Schiano (not an actual quote but you get the picture).
Schiano has had so much control throughout college coaching, that he thinks he can tell the national media that Nicks had a “blister that needed medicine to work through it”. As if people wouldn’t find that to be an odd statement.
Schiano is still in over his head. The conjunction of him AND the lack of development in Freeman will equal a sub-par season for my beloved Bucs. I hate to say it, but I personally am lowering the bar for them…
August 25th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Buc1987- you’re a loser. I bet you are ATLEAST 300 lb’s of fatness rolling out of bed and wobbling to your computer. Seeing your name and Raphael’s on here INCESSANTLY commenting on each-and-every-story makes my skin crawl. Holy crap, I see the same dopey people commenting on here all the time with their dopey comments
August 25th, 2013 at 7:50 am
So let’s see… You have a QB that has the mental capacity to escape a sack equivalent to a fly in a spider’s web, an authoritarian control-freak liar coach that will tell you that water is dry and dirt is liquid, and a O-line and D-line that is as porous as swiss cheese…
SMH… REVIS PLEASE SAVE US!!!!
August 25th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Our QB looking like he never played the game in his last dress rehearsal before the regular season doesn’t move the optimism meter much.
August 25th, 2013 at 8:23 am
While this doesn’t “matter” as much as games, has anyone seen Freeman in practice? I would think that if he is this inconsistent in practice, the coaches must be questioning their options.
That said, I don’t see many options in this (his) contract year. To start Glennon, would an obvious end to Freeman’s Buc’s career. A trade would be highly unlikely.
It’s too bad Freeman can’t just “manage” the game – go through reads, get the ball away, don’t take sacks, etc. We could probably win some games leaning on the run as we have the talent there.
All in all I think Freeman’s problem is 100% mental. When you have to answer questions after practice about (x) HOF’ers critical comment on you this week – that’s gotta suck. I just hope the guy stays off most radio outlets and TV outlets, not many pro-Freeman guys out there. Granted it’s his job to overlook such things and play well, but at the end of the day he’s human and still young. I really hope he is working with a sports psychologist to help him through all this…because even as a Freeman optimist I see the writing on the wall.
There was “suck for luck”, maybe this year it’s “clownin’ for clowney” – just hope the Buc’s aren’t in the race…and yet…damn that would be a nice sight. ;0)
August 25th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Lol @ people upset over a pre season game…Carimi will not be playing guard, like he was tonight .
@ Tampa 2 …in two weeks I will be lmao at your dumb arse .
August 25th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Buc1987,
I could have swore you said last week you were done here. Just couldn’t stay away, huh?
August 25th, 2013 at 8:55 am
Raphael,
Prove it! You 100% guaranetee Josh is taking us to the playorffs?
Or, will Josh go out there and look LOST?
Time to have better QB play, going into his 5th year, it is is expected.
August 25th, 2013 at 10:57 am
personally I like to have a new coach off coord our team want win 5 ames this year no matter who plays qb we just dnt have enough playmakers. Tampa has a lot of cheap players lets be real u cant win in this league like this. So everyone can point fingers and blame all u want we just dnt have enough talent on this team to win> we cant top no ones offense no matter if revis plays tht want help our oline sucks or playcalling sucks our qbs sucks our wrs sucks our rbs are pretty gd run dfense sucks our pass defnse sucks> lets be real do anybody see us beating atl new Orleans any other legit team because I dont
August 25th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Raphael will be sitting here in 2 weeks singing Josh’s praises even if he stinks it up like usual. It’s what he’s always done. I think he’s a permanent part of Josh Jock Strap now.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:41 am
All u freemanites r a bunch of morons with mancrushes especially jackoff101.lol.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:52 am
tampa 2 is not happy unless this place turns into a big bash the bucs site. Maybe that it what the site needs to become. Perhaps it is time for all the optimistic fans to just go away. What do you think raphael? As new optimistic fans enter JoeBuc…people like tampa2yrold and gang can just run them away. I think it would be good for the site. Everyone would be happy in here, if it was a constant buc bitchfest amongst the bitchers.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Josh Freeman looking like Joe Freshman once again (anagram burn!). I couldn’t be more disappointed with his regression/lack of progress since 2010.
But I think he still has the potential to be the top 10 QB we need. So he gets one more shot.
That said, the offense looks so pitiful they it’s time go full panic-mode. We need to keep the first string offense in all 4 quarters next week. Not for a cheap win and “confidence”, but because we desperately need the practice and playing time together. Hopefully that gives the offense a leg up in week one – injury risk be damned.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Hey buc1987, I thought you, your $100 Freeman t-shirt and your 3 game tickets were “outta here”? Some f’n fan. You and Raphael are nothing more than Freeman homers. It doesn’t matter how bad Freeman is (and he is BAD) you 2 buffoons will loyally carry his jock.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
All this whining over a pre-season game of a team we play in the regular season. The playcalling was obviously a decoy. You idiots really think this is going to carry over into the regular season is what cracks me up. If someone supports Freeman they get bashed in here, if they don’t fall in line with everyone else. I’ll still continue to save dumb comments like Mean D’s and everyone elses, so I can replay them back to everyone of how dumb they actually were. Keep going Mean D anyone else want pile on Freeman or Schiano or Sully or the defense? The file keeps getting bigger and bigger. Mean D I have about 7 Bucs Jerseys Freeman is one of them. I will be wearing different ones in rotation throughout the 8 games I will be watching live. You on the other hand will have to listen Deckerhoff
on the radio, enjoy it.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
“personally I like to have a new coach off coord our team want win 5 ames this year no matter who plays qb we just dnt have enough playmakers. Tampa has a lot of cheap players lets be real u cant win in this league like this. So everyone can point fingers and blame all u want we just dnt have enough talent on this team to win> we cant top no ones offense no matter if revis plays tht want help our oline sucks or playcalling sucks our qbs sucks our wrs sucks our rbs are pretty gd run dfense sucks our pass defnse sucks> lets be real do anybody see us beating atl new Orleans any other legit team because I dont”
^^^
JBF needs more of this. Bring me some more. I want all the negative crap I can get loaded into this file.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
freeman didnt look great last. but neither did the offense in general. i understand the articles about freeman but i believe the way the rest of the team plays definitely effect his stats. too many drops. too many missed blocks and on paper it looks like we should run freeman out of town. they need to get their timing back on track. ill be waiting for the regular season to pass judgement on josh.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Question is what happens if all that “negative crap” as you like to call it comes true? Are you still going be here running your fat mouth calling people idiots?
Wait, no no. What am I talking about. Your always right when it comes to the BUCS! LMAO
August 25th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Thanks Couch that’s another keeper…anything else that you would like to add?
August 25th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Yea get me a coke sweet cheeks after you fluff Freeman’s pillow
August 25th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
roger borras …how dare you be positive in here. It’s not allowed on jbf.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Buc87,
You haven’t answered why you are back after saying you were “outta here” after being chastised by Joe.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
He wont answer Lightning. He just wants to act like it never happened, which actually explains a lot when it comes to his opinion of Freeman.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Buc1987 wants to have Freeman’s baby. And his word clearly means nothing as he promised he was gone from this site forever. But at least he coughed up a whopping $100 for a Freeman “jersey”. What is that, a tank top?
August 25th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
LMAO @ Tank top