How Will “Commander” Schiano Respond?
August 25th, 2013
Jon [Gruden] demanded, you know, certain things out of his team. And Coach Schiano does the same thing, demands a way of doing things. And that’s good for the football team. How they’re different? That’s tough to say. Jon was really just kind of an offensive-sided guy. Monte [Kiffin] was really the head coach on defense when Jon was here. But Coach Schiano really takes ownership on everything. I think he is as detailed a commander (laughs), that’s a good way to put it, as I’ve been around. There’s not an aspect of the game that he doesn’t have a part of making a decision on, or at least, you know, influencing. That’s just how he is. He’s a detail oriented guy. He anticipates, everything that could happen in the game he’s anticipated and is prepared for, whether it’s offense, defense or special teams. That’s just his manner. When you meet the guy, if you ever meet the guy, he’ll talk to you and the way he comes across to you is like, ‘Hey, I am on top of everything that I need to be on top of and I’m going to force my will on every situation because that’s my job.’ That’s how he looks at it.- Ronde Barber, Nov. 27, 2012.
The quote above was one of the most insightful ever on Greg Schiano. And it’s got Joe wondering this morning how the head coach will respond to his team not being sharp on offense or defense last night — and the week before.
Joe’s heard Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams both talk recently about how the Bucs offense is light years ahead of where it was at this time last year. The problem is Joe’s not seeing evidence of that, including from those two guys, who have been sloppy this preseason. And there are other issues; pass blocking comes to mind quickly.
Preseason is the time to make these mistakes. No problem. Make adjustments and be ready for opening day. But Joe’s wondering how Schiano will approach righting his ship. Schiano’s talked a lot about how he “trusts” his team now, versus last season. But will Schiano be patient and trust in the face of ball security issues, major breakdowns, and a noticeable lack of energy out of the gate for his team? Will Schiano crack the whip this week or take a different approach?
Last season, the Bucs collectively responded poorly to Schiano during their November-December, five-game losing streak. The head coach found a way to get back on track in a big way at Atlanta to close the season. Now Schiano is again off course. No matter how the state of the Bucs is characterized at this moment, there’s no denying they’re not where they want to be on Aug. 25.
Again, Schiano found a way to fix things for the season finale last year. The pressure on him has returned to do that for opening day. A matchup against the train-wreck Jets should help. A loss to the Jets would be unthinkable.
August 25th, 2013 at 9:05 am
Very possible the rah rah act is starting to wear thin.
August 25th, 2013 at 9:16 am
Obviously he didn’t brought enough insight to the team and the same should be expected from him until he is expelled back to where he belong, a weak college conference where he can take another garbage team and upgrade it to mediocre…
I’m getting ready for another QB-less, QB pressure-less, and HC-less season.
Go Bucs though!
August 25th, 2013 at 9:25 am
Not gonna get bent out of shape on the first game…I don’t think this is what we will see week one
August 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am
It seems that we are the only fan base in need of Kevin’s phrase for the past year… Just saying
August 25th, 2013 at 9:28 am
You’ve heard the term mid season form. Nobody looks ready. Not even Jackson or Martin. Has this team been over-practiced? There is no timing or rhythm. Even Penn looks bad. I hope this team doesn’t quit during the season. Still holding out hope that things come together.
August 25th, 2013 at 9:30 am
Peyton Manning – 25/34 for 235
Tom Brady – 16/24 – 185
Matt Ryan – 11/19- 138
Jake Locker – 11/13 – 133
Look at Russel Wilson’s Stats. Ben Roethlisberger’s. Stafford’s. But let’s all continue to make a blind excuse for Freeman; LYING to ourselves by saying it’s just preseason. While the REAL quarterbacks are getting their games polished up, Freeman is coming in at a nifty 6-16 for 50 yrds. Over throwing receivers so horribly you’d think his name was Tim Tebow. Denver for example, have also had injuries on the o-line. Manning knows how to make quick reads and get rid of the ball. The Bucs have the pieces. No excuses. But hey, it’s just preseason..
August 25th, 2013 at 9:44 am
I hope the plan is to turn a 180 going in the season.
I just don’t understand that patience for looking bad. Preseason by and largely does not matter, but what gives?
Freeman and the offense looked terrible. I am tired of seeing poor QB execution, tired of it! There are so many young guys out there, less experienced than Freeman, that are making the playoffs. Are they on better teams? Maybe, but there is a load of talent on this team.
Five sacks last night is unacceptable. Is the O-Line looking bad? If so, what the phuck Dominick? I believe a good bit of it is Freeman’s ability to make something happen. I am tired of seeing “Bad Josh”. Good Josh just doesn’t come around often or consistently enough to make a difference.
< or = 8-8 <——FAILURE.
Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, Russel Wilson, RG3, Andrew Luck have all been to the playoffs in 16 starts or less.
56 and counting with Josh, by now we should see better play, period. His play effects the entire offense. When it is good, we roll, when it is scared- we blow.
August 25th, 2013 at 10:06 am
You cannot, no matter how much you try, get the replication of effort and intensity in the preseason that you get in regular season games. The Lions crushed the Patriots…does anyone really think that would happen in a regular season game? The Lions have a brutal secondary that Tom Brady would pick apart. So please people, stop acting like any of this matters. I’ll always bring it up because its the ultimate proof, but the Lions wen 4-0 in the preseason the year they went 0-16 in the regular season. There is no correaltion between preseason and regular season other than fans get charged the same for tickets to both.
August 25th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Lol everybody looked horrible on offense yesterday. Nice smoke screen Schiano! 😉
August 25th, 2013 at 10:24 am
Man, did someone slip our entire offense morphine or something??? Jackson and Williams dropping balls that hit them right in the hands…Freeman airmailing a wide open swing pass. Brian Leonard was the only bright spot on the offense. Pass blocking was horrendous…again. On a happier note…once the D stiffened their backs and forced the field goal I thought they played a lot better. At least I saw some pressure on the QB tonight. Can’t wait to get Revis in there.
I know they are not showing any offense at all and running a vvveeeerrrrry vanilla play book but c’mon. You could be a little more creative than that and still not give away the family recipe. Still don’t know what we’re gonna get at the Jets but let’s hope this is the opposite of what the Lion’s did when they went 4-0 preseason and then went 0-16 in the regular season.
August 25th, 2013 at 10:34 am
@Bobby
Schiano doesn’t care about winning in the preseason, yesterday was about creating pass rush and finding out who our #2 RB is. Both were accomplished. Just think about it: we played THAT poorly and STILL won. Neither team was going for the win.
August 25th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Please don’t compare the Bucs to the Patriots. The Patriots have earned the right (and the benefit of doubt) to coast in preseason through a decade of excellence. While generally MOST teams keep it vanilla during preseason, you KNOW what you are going to get from Tom Brady. Number 5 is far (SO SO FAR) away from Brady. Therefore the Bucs preseason is of a little more importance in terms of evaluation.
August 25th, 2013 at 10:56 am
2 things I have taken away from Pre-Season so far:
1 There is no doubt in my mind that our RB group is by far the best unit on the team (maybe until Revis plays?)
2. The expected battle for the 3rd WR spot has been disappointing to say the least.(Owusu has been hurt and unimpressive in the only game hes played in, Ogletree dropping passes, Page has been invisible except at KR/PR). Only Dougles(SP?) has been making plays out there consistently.
And I’ll just throw this out there, I can live with a defense that gives up a ton of yards but bows up in the red zone forcing more field goals or stops.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Couch,
Why is Freeman playing so poorly? Is it the “plan” to go out there and look over matched?
Tannehill was a college wr three years ago. Freeman was 10-6 three years ago…. Wow, what QB would you rather have?
August 25th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Last night it was pretty clear Tannenhill was the better QB. Sad but true.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Time for us to all relax and watch an 8-8 team, hindered by the lack of consistent QB play.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Vince Young who’s been sitting on his couch for what the last year or 2? Looked better than Freeman.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Uh…BTW, Eli Manning looked horrible last night. Same style offense, but it’s preseason. If VJack , M. Williams & Free aren’t worried about it, why are you guys?
Get ready for the Jets, evaluate bye week.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:24 am
@couch fan
Lol I’ll wait til MNF til I make that judgement. Tannehill played like a turd last year.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Yeah,what Tampa2 said^^^^^^^^
August 25th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Should of traded for Carson Palmer. But Dom didt want to own up to his mistake in drafting freeman bc Palmer wouldn’t have even made it a competition. Would have beaten freeman out and honestly I think glennon has shown enough evidence that he’s been better.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Mediocre play and lackluster effort with some exception (Spence, Scott, Leonard) is not encouraging and often reflective of micromanagement. Let’s hope the HC is able to accurately evaluate the root cause(s) and correct before the real season begins.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:33 am
@Chris
And that’s why you aren’t a part of any FO in the NFL. What a stupid thing to say.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:37 am
@Walter
I dont know about MNF. But last night Tannenhill was better. Even the most avid Freeman fans could see this. I’m not saying Tannenhill is better period. But last night he was far and away better than Freeman…. you simply cant argue this.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Hey Walter ,
How’s that a stupid thing To say? Josh freeman has done so much to “earn” the starting qb gig. When do you just have to cut your losses and realize freeman is a lost cause back there in te pocket?
August 25th, 2013 at 11:43 am
Why isn’t Josh taking control of this offense. He is a seasoned vet by now, but he failed to show up.
Preseason is preseason, but we looked more on our way to a Pat Kirwan 6-10, last place in the NFC South, rather than a Raphael on JBF “11-5 and in the playoffs. Josh Freeman for President, 2020!!!”
August 25th, 2013 at 11:49 am
Exactly Chris and Couch,
Freeman is the starter for now, but it can change and Freeman has done nothing to solidify “why” he is our guy.
Freeman was outplayed last night, and I really wanted to see my 5th year QB outplay a 2nd year guy, whom was a Big 12 WR 3 years ago, when Josh was 10-6.
Bottom line, we need to have a consistently better performance taking our snaps and facilitating the offense. Having this kind of lack of production can not be compensated for on game days.
We can make the playoffs, if the QB position can take us there. No team can win today without strong to exceptional QB play. Freeman has been lackluster to say the least.
Fran Tarkenton looks like less a of a goat after last night’s performance. I want to see Freeman play like it means something to him. He looks like he lacks poise, command, interest and intensity. What gives? When will we see Josh play like it is 2010 again? That QB is long gone…
August 25th, 2013 at 11:54 am
If Geno Smith out plays Freeman come Game 1. We are in BIG trouble… and the way Freeman is playing thats not completely ridiculous.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Or Sanchez for that matter. But looks like Geno will get the start.
August 25th, 2013 at 11:55 am
@Couch Fan @Chris @Stevek
You guys are freaking out.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
LMAO @ Freaking out
Nobody is freaking out but geez, you and the Freemanites are just going to brush last nights performance along with the rest of the Pre-Season under the rug? Are you heads so far up your back sides you can’t even give an honest assessment of what you’ve seen of Josh thus far? Amazing people can’t even seem to be honest with themselves anymore when it comes to Freeman….
If you have then you should come to the conclusion, the rest of us have. Josh is struggling…. like usual. Along with the rest of the offense, with exception to the RBs.
I guess if we go 7-9 again thats no reason to freak out either. Just another bump in the Freeman road. I know, I know. Let’s give him another 5 years to fairly evaluate him.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Walter,
We are freaking out? Or, could it be that the 3 of us share concern for the performance of our 5th year QB? We are concerned about the progression of his game, and specifically if he can take this team to the playoffs?
Do you expect 2013 playoffs, Walter? I do, and last night I expected our 5th year QB to outplay Tannehill. Josh didn’t improve his play yesterday.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
@Couch Fan
Lol so I’m just not freaking out enough is what you’re saying?
I’m not ignoring the fact that our offense looked horrible, I’m simply not putting as much stock into the preseason as you are apparently.
Stop trying to paint me as some kind of blind fan, I watch the games, I’m not covering for Freeman, he played WORSE THAN SHIT. But it’s preseason, so I don’t care, Matt Ryan looked bad, Brady looked bad, Eli looked bad, A LOT of starting QB’s looked bad. Hell, Glennon looked bad too. There’s no need to throw a fit over games that NO ONE will even remember once the real action starts. Until then, try not to commit suicide or anything, k buddy? It’s not as bad as you are making it out to be.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
@Stevek @Couch Fan
Yes, you’re freaking out.
I don’t even need or want to get into details on the subject, it’s redundant with you guys, there is no pleasing you.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Pre-Season has little to do with the Regular Season, but even the blindest of persons can tell Freeman and the rest of the offense is heading into the regular season with very little positive momentum. If this is how Schiano planned it then mission accomplished. As an honest Buccaneers fan. There is certainly a reason to be worried. Even the commentators, Ronde included, said as much. They did not show what we needed them to show going to the regular season. Anyways go head and put your head back in the sand… we’ll see what happens in 2 weeks.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Ok Walter just answer this one question for me honestly and I wont say another word.
You said there is no pleasing us… so answer me this. Were you pleased with what you say last night?
August 25th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
It’s got to be concerning tht ear two the entire offense as a whole doesn’t look sharp. Yeah it’s preseason and w/l do not matter. But when your starters look like dog crap out there it’s concerning.
Dom has been “adding talent” fr 5 years now. How much more patient can fans be to see a winner?
August 25th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
@Couch Fan
And Couch, I may like Freeman, but who are you to insinuate that I give him a free pass?? You don’t know me, you don’t know what I think, so don’t make an ASS out of yourself when you make ASSumptions about how I think.
For the record, FREEMAN HAS SUCKED MAJOR ASS THIS PRESEASON.
Key word: Preseason
If you want to evaluate Freeman solely based on 3 quarters of football, go right ahead man. Lol
August 25th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
In fact I’ll make it even easier for you because the answer to last night is to easy. Have you been pleased with anything you’ve seen from the starting offense at all during all of Pre-Season?
August 25th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
If Freeman is outplayed by Geno Smith or Mark Sanchez in two weeks, should we be “freaking out”?
I am worried about our playoff chances, if our 1st team offense plays like they did this preseason, this season.
WALTER: DO YOU EXPECT 2013 PLAYOFFS FOR THE BUCS?
August 25th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
@Chris
No more waiting, this is it man. Last chance.
We all know that already.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
On a lighter note, Myron Lewis (Lions) and Kyle Moore (Bears) were cut this morning.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
@Stevek
Yep. I’ve already said that before.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
LMAO
Ok so you said there is “No pleasing us” but yet you self admittedly just said Freeman sucked.
So how is there no pleasing us when you’ve just said he sucked. So basically all you are doing is defending your man crush and arguing with us just to argue instead of adding your opinion… LMAO
It looks to me like YOU are the one making an ASS out of YOURSELF
SEE I CAN TYPE IN CAPS TO
and btw, dont try to act like you arent giving Free a pass. You’ve been doing it all off-season… But hey, try to lie some more to us.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Weber got cut this morning.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
@Couch Fan
Lol nope, not giving him a free pass. I admitted he has sucked in the preseason, so how is that a free pass? Just because I don’t shit all over Freeman on a daily basis doesn’t mean I think he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
And I’m not even defending him, all I did was tell you that you’re freaking out. Someone is taking this all to personally lol
August 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
Were making cuts already? Thats different.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
@Couch Fan
Do I have to take a dump all over Freeman on a daily basis to think that he has struggled mightily during the preseason?
And what does me admitting that Freeman hasn’t played well have to do with the fact that you are never pleased? Are you even thinking straight right now, or does a preseason game have your blood boiling so much that you can’t even string together a cohesive argument?
August 25th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Damn, double post. Figured “shit” was filtered or something.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
@Walter
You are the one who started this. Dont try to act like it my fault you once again couldn’t handle someones opinion and just had to try to run your mouth.
Funny how I am still giving my opinion and you are doing nothing but trying to degrade me for feeling like I do instead of staying on point and talking about Freeman.
That pretty much tells me you cant defend him because what you saw was, as we said, was discouraging.
So yes I have to ” take a dump” on him every chance I get until he proves that he doesnt disserve it anymore.
Suck it up butter cup.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
Or put your head back in the sand and keep quiet while us adults are talking.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I’ve pointed it out the last two weeks in my post.
This entire team looks tired and poorly coached. While all the uneducated eyes focus on Freeman- the big big picture is far more disturbing. Iit was the same things I saw the last two weeks.
No unit on this can line up, and run the plays correctly! You can see major errors on every play. The backs miss blocks, or run to the wrong side. Linemen are blocking the defenders into the backs, and missing trap blocks .
Our TEs can’t do anything right. They can’t block. They can’t get off the line to run routes. They can’t catch. Our WRs are frequently within 5 yards of each other. They still don’t know the basics of the offense.
It’s a Chinese fire drill
The defense is worse. The players also don’t know their assignments- and we run the most obvious, easily blocked blitz packages I’ve ever seen on the pro level. Foster has regressed again. Our D- line stunts are inept and ineffective.
And neither unit has the energy of a beached whale. Lifeless and emotionless.
And these are very talented players. Only one player shows improvement.
Lavonte David.
There is no other way to subscribe what we are seeing
This team is poorly coached.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
You people act as if pre-seasons games are fought and won the same way regular season games are, but there is completely different preparation. On numerous occasions the bucs defense (allowed) the fins to get in the redzone to game time practice their redzone defense. See all teams do things like this, pre-season is a live game/scenario opportunity. Did the bucs look sharp as a whole? no, the redzone defense did (1 redzone td allowed by defense all game)
Josh looked shady, but so did vincent jackson. Am i suppose to believe J Vax will have this issue when games become meaningful? no.
Most important aspect of last nights game = no major injuries.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
And as far as being pleased goes. Yes I am never, and will never, be pleased with 4th in our division repeatedly. What exactly should I/we “haters” be pleased about?
It’s ok we know you accept mediocrity. We get it. It’s ok. But not all of us do.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
@Couch Fan
Lol yep, you’re definitely too mad to think straight today buddy. 😉
I’m not angry though, this is what I’ve come to expect from you, the same nonsense every day, it’s why I stopped posting as much.
The fact is, you’re a hypocrite.
I “degrade” you? Are you serious?
Mr. Couch Fan is offended by me saying he’s freaking out, but boy oh boy, I can be told that I’m “hanging off Josh’s jock strap”, or “sniffing Josh’s jock”, or that I have my “head stuck up my ass.”
You are one of the most condescending, closed-minded, insulting, and disrespectful people on this site. You’re also the first to call foul if somebody disagrees with your opinion. So don’t give me this crap that I “degrade you” for “feeling how you feel.” You sound like such a child.
August 25th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
@Couch Fan
Be pleased that you have a team to cheer for, how about that you ungrateful lump of negativity?
August 25th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Everything you just said describes you not me.
LMAO you are the one who interjected yourself into the conversation saying we were freaking out and instead of voicing your opinion you just continued to try to tell us how we were thinking… yes that degrading…
If I call someone one for having a different opinion than mine I usually respond with my own opinion as to why I think they are wrong….
You on the other hand, resort to name calling, labeling people as “bad fans” and you simply refuse to even put out an opinion with the excuse of something along the lines “there is no pleasing you” Or “Your to stupid to debate with” which clearly is your attempt to avoid the topic at hand just so you can try to make yourself feel a little bit better about Freeman.
Your attempt to completley switch around the convo is an epic fail… LMAO
LMAO… its ok though keep lying and crying for me. But you will never be took serious until you can intelligently express your opinion without trying to drag people down to your pathetic level.
Well not by intelligent fans anyways. I’m sure BucFan1987 and Raphael will be all to willing to hear your stupidity.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Be pleased that you have a team to cheer for, how about that you ungrateful lump of negativity?
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And I’m the one whos mad? LMAO
Put your head back in the sand buddy so you can pretend all is well in the world.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
@Couch Fan
Lol what question did I fail to answer Couch Fan?? You keep saying that I fail to present my own opinion, but you point to nothing at all to prove that. I answered your questions, all of them. But it’s ok Couch Fan, stay angry bro. It’s what you do best. 🙂
Oh, and I don’t answer to you, or to Stevek, or Chris, or lightningbuc, or whichever other posters on this site you consider “knowledgeable fans.”
It’s funny, all those guys are the ones that agree with you.
The ones that you just lumped in my corner (Raphael, 1987) are the ones that don’t.
Yet you claim you’re capable of debating fairly with other people???
Seems to me like you just call people that agree with you “knowledgeable,” yet discredit anyone with a different opinion as a “Freemanite” or “Freeman Apologist.”
So who’s really the child?
August 25th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Umm… when did I call anyone knowledgeable?
Can you possibly make up anymore lies? It’s ok though. It’s rather common for people to lie and make up stuff when they know they are full of crap.
oh and btw I didnt lump anyone in your corner because of a lack of knowledge, I lumped them in your corner because they clearly have there heads in the sand like you do and cant even be honest with themselves or have an intelligent debate without name calling, labeling who is and isnt a real fan.
Lol but hey continue to make up stuff…
August 25th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Look, anyone who doesn’t have some concerns after last night’s performance by the offense must be blind. Yes….I understand that not all the starters played. They pulled Joseph after 17 snaps. Martin didn’t play at all but whole offense just looked like a well oiled mess. No continuity. Every time Freeman made a good throw it got dropped and then there were the bad throws to even things out. Just no hunger displayed by anyone not named Leonard. By the way, I REALLY like what I see out of him. If he spells Martin there won’t be any drop off.
Special teams were a bright spot. Excellent play for the most part. Defense gave up some yards but not a lot of points which is promising. Especially since Revis will be taking the #1’s once the season starts.
One things’s for sure. You can believe Schiano has some concerns and these guys will be working their butts off up until the Jets game to fix the problems.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
@Couch Fan
Lol you’ve yet to answer the question Couch Fan. What did I fail to answer? What did you ask that I have yet to explain my opinion on?
I mean, that’s the whole basis behind your argument right now, right? That I don’t explain my reasoning behind my words, that all I’m doing is defending Freeman, so go on, prove that statement! Come on Couch Fan, I’ve been waiting for a while now, but all you’ve done so far is continue to criticize me. I want facts, not 5 year old banter.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
@Bobby
Agreed. Thats all I wanted to hear from some people. I can respect that opinion. It’s just the others who want to act like were all idiots and have no reason whatsoever to be worried, “It’s only pre-season”
I have no clue what the regular season holds. It could be amazingly different come week 1. But right now after 3 Pre-Season games, they haven’t given us a lot to be excited about. As I said I just hope this was the way Schiano planned it.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Walter, WestCoast, Raphael, Bobby, Bonzai, Junkie, Chef Paul, Andrew 1, Macabee tonytwocents, Solaire of Astora. Your all GREAT Buc fans.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
There really is nothing to get excited about in preseason games anyways. That’s why hardly anyone goes to the games. Some people do like to freak out over them though. I wonder how freaked Pat’s fans are over that 40-9 beat down by the Lions. Probably not even close to the fans on jbf.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
When you have an all world QB like Tom Brady. There is no reason to freak out…. we dont exactly have that now do we? All we got is an inconsistent Freeman which leaves a lot of worry room.
August 25th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Captain Tim said it best, this team is poorly coached.
As far as Freeman is concerned, this was the 3rd preseason game, in a contract year, in the 2 minute drill it was time to shine. It was time to show the NFL exactly what he was made of. Time to display his veteran leadership. Time to show his complete understanding of a complex offense. Rewind to 1:29 of the 2nd quarter, WTF!!!
On the bright side, the Jadeveon Clowney Project (JCP) is on! Imagine all of the fun fans will have dressing up like clowns and talk about face painting? Wow!!!
You guys may be right about the Little General being a genius, I just don’t see another NFL team tanking as bad as the Bucs unless it’s intentional.
The JCP is on! A race to the bottom.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
All I know is I’m just getting sick of all the Buccaneer apoligists. Excuse after excuse for the teams losses. Freeman this, Freeman that… quit apologizing for the teams losses, it’s nothing but a bunch of excuses pointing the finger at one aspect and not addressing the entire problem.
Oh wait, but Freeman overthrew that guy… Stop it!!! The O-line couldn’t block a beach ball rolling onto the field. Quit making excuses for the team’s struggles and losing record. I just don’t see how you guys can keep hanging on the jock straps of the team, all the while making excuses for the losses and poor play by blaming one guy. Open your eyes and you’ll see the other 52 guys responsible instead of making excuses and apologizing for the team.
But… but… last year the QB was inconsisten! Yeah, and the defense couldn’t tackle an over-stuffed pillow or step in front of a pass from a Catholic school girl… More excuses for the teams struggles.
OK, but the record??? Yeah, yeah, that’s the guy that keeps running the wrong way and scoring for the other team… Blame him!! All these excuses, all these apologists just make me sick.
Does the one player affect the game? Yeah, he does. So do the others. So, keep on making excuses and apologies for the 52 other guys, for the team… and keep watching things go down hill…. Or accept that the Team, the Buccaneers haven’t been to the playoffs, have had losing records, have looked bad in preseason… and quit making excuses.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Are Pre-season games not football? What do you mean there is nothing to get excited about?
I bet Detroit fans are excited after that beat down, even though its just Pre-Season that gave them HOPE. Something Us Buc Fans haven’t been given yet.
What hope have we been offered so far?
August 25th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Im only asking because IF Freeman lit it up last night (or anyone else for that matter) we would not be hearing “Its only Pre-Season”. We would all be excited because that would of inspired some hope. But since he (or anyone else) didnt, now it’s only Pre-Season
I agree with BamBam, stop with the excuses already. We’ll see what happens game 1. But right now it’s not looking good.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
@Capt Tim….Don’t know which Mason Foster you were looking at. He played very well last night.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Sorry, but I was busy watching the Rays beat the Yankees, Go Rays
August 25th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
@Bobby
He basically said all of that just to say that Schiano sucks.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
@Buc1987
We’re ALL fans (except maybe Free’s a Boob, I feel like he might be a Saints fan trolling), we all just have different expectations, we hold different players to different standards, but the goal is all the same, we just want to win. Couch Fan thinks that I accept mediocrity, that I don’t care if we lose, but that’s simply not true. I don’t like the fact that we are 5 years removed from being in the playoffs. I don’t like that we have gone 10 years without a playoff win. I don’t like watching the Saints and Falcons win the division while we battle the Panthers for 3rd or 4th place every year. I am just not ready to pull the plug on Freeman yet, this is his last chance. It’s year 5 for him now, it’s now or never. If he stinks it up, and we end up starting Glennon, I’ll eat the most crow out of anybody, but the way I see it, there’s no need to panic and throw in the towel on him right now, even Superbowl winning QB’s like Eli Manning and Tom Brady struggled this week, so until he implodes in the regular season, he’s our starting QB and I dont see any reason to get all worked up just yet. In the near future, the picture of the future of the Buccaneers will start to become clear.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Yes, it’s preseason but it was week 3 of preseason which is the final dress rehearsal for the first game. The only comfort I got out of that game last night was knowing that I have yet to see the entire first team play together on both sides of the ball but that was very little comfort. Now, I’m not freaking out and I’m not ready to predict doom and gloom for the regular season but I am saying that they should have been much more polished than they were. Can they get it fixed before week 1?? Sure, but it looked like a lot of work to me.
I am far from ready to lay the blame for last night at the feet of Freeman. He did his part to stink things up but so did the rest of the offense. I think next year it’s time to start drafting O-line and get some quality depth behind our front four. How many times has Freeman been sacked in the preseason??! Looks like WFW in there. All that’s missing is some ropes for the opposition to jump off of.
Wouldn’t surprise me to see the first team get more than just the first series against Washington. They need the work.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
No Couch Fan. Not me. Sure I’d be happy everything looked good. Then I’d say just like the doubters would say. It’s only preseason. If Freeman had a great night. The Freeman bashers would be saying that left and right. It’s only preseason.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Freeman didn’t look worried to me. I saw him lip synching a rap song as the music played in the stadium. I think he is saying “I got this”. LoL.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Agreed. The problem is that we just dont know what kind of game planning went into the game. If it was designed to not give away anything then I can somewhat understand why we are looking the way we have. But even if thats the case, there is still no excuse for the sloppy execution. The sacks, wild passes, the drops. All in all they just look… bad. And “It’s only Pre-Season” is not a good enough excuse either. They have 2 weeks to get it fixed. I do know 1 thing. A loss week 1 at the Jets and… phew the wheels are going to fall off real fast.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
“They have 2 weeks to get it fixed. I do know 1 thing. A loss week 1 at the Jets and… phew the wheels are going to fall off real fast.”
I agree!
August 25th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
@Couch Fan
Well, at least we can take comfort in the fact that its the Jets and Geno Smith. Haha
If we lose to them, I’ll explode.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Exactly. I think you, me, and just about every other Bucs fan.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
The sky is falling ….omg ! I see the freeman bashes are out in force today.. Just remember when he wins , to just say your a sorry dumb arse , and you have no faith whatsoever in NSO
August 25th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Lets take this brief moment to celebrate a good game, and our team heading in the right direction !!!
Shout out to @MadMaxx or whoever it was that seat the mood with a great song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDUC1LUXSU. Got me in the wife in here bumping some Marvin
HEY HEY HEY
@BucDan
@PRBucFan
@illuminatiBuc
@Buc1987
@OahuBuc
And errrrr body else. Good times , Good times brothas
He don’t smack that ass, and pull your hair for u!!!..Hahahahaa Classic
August 25th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
I will say this …opening day against the Jets will be a huge test for Freeman, Ryan knows defense and he will throw everything at Josh …if we lose I will be the first to jump off the skyway . But I think Josh will show up and win it.
August 25th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
My Bad
@Couch Fan
@Raphael
What up Fammm!!
HEY HEY HEY
August 25th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
I’M Freaking OUT, MAN!
August 25th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
@mpmalloyBuc
Grab you a bottle of single malt. And relax man; its Sunday baby!!!
August 25th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
“Set” the Mood…you know what I mean.My bad grammar police (WTF) LOL
August 25th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
I was reading a story on the NY Daily News site the other day. The writer referred to the Bucs as a game the Jets should be able to comfortably beat.
August 25th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Dom and schiano are amateurs. Hopefully we can draft high enough for teddy bridgwater or clowney meaning we move on from a career big east loser and mediocre mark dominik
August 25th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Hopefully we can draft high enough…..
So your hoping we suck this year? Wow
August 25th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
@Couch Fan
smh..lol
August 25th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Yea me to Lol
August 25th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
^ +1 Buc1987,
Two weeks, and we are all expecting the offense to turn a 180.
August 25th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
I expect the O to not even resemble the offense that we have seen in preseason.
August 25th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
@Couch Fan
Buc It Man!
August 25th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
IMO- We probably place #77 -LG Carl Nicks on temporary IR. to sneak one of these DE’s on the roster. I don’t know-we got some nice prospects man…., DT Derek Landry decent; But I don’t know.
August 25th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
+Plus Its some other Squads out there with nice prospects…. I don’t known!! Season gonna be solid. Lets GO!!!
August 25th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
I like Schiano. And he has brought so many needed elements to this team.
Discipline, organization, focus, accountability. Work ethic.
He got rid of the sense of entitlement, the scumbags, the slackers!
He did what I wanted him to do- I love the Guy!
But now, he’s got his team. He got rid of the trash. He has talent in every unit- and more pro bowlers than any Buc coach since the Superbowl run.
Now is the sad part. It doesn’t look like he can coach on the NFL level. Like the end of last year- every team has figured out his game plans. The entire team collapsed last year- but the biggest problem( that I pointed out weekly) is that every team knew our playbook. They knew when we were going to blitz. They knew our trick plays. Knew our line stunts, new our WR routes, new out coverages.
It was pointed out many times- opposing CBs would beat our WR to the sideline, and would be there waiting for him!!
The NFL is all about deception and Complication. These are world class atheletes- it takes a lot of strategy to beat them.
And we continue to throw vanilla lineups at them. Not just this preseason. It’s a continuation of last year. He are talented enought to win the physical matchup s. we are being soundly beaten in the Strategy game
And that’s the coaching. We can’t execute one play without a major foul up by one unit or the other.
Shiano has brought sooo many things to this team, that we desperately needed. But the coaching skills that won 50% at Rutgers, may prove insuffient to run an NFL team
I want to be wrong about this. But this team is great at standing with toes on the line- but can’t get in sync in a single play on the field.
And the opponents seem to know what we are doing- better than our players.
We are regressing- with one of the leagues most talented teams
August 25th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Yup this next week will be very interesting to say the least. Who we pluck out from other teams roster cuts could be very telling as to what they are thinking.
August 25th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
And yet another of m post disappears .
August 25th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
#WTF
“Comcast fires reporter Susannah Collins after ‘sex’ slip, Sports Nutz videos” (I know its old). But C’mon NFLNETWORK we need that in our life..LMAO
August 25th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
@Couch Fan
Can’t wait Bruh. LETS GO!!
August 25th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
You can be “vanilla” and still execute.
Your are in great denial if you think our offense looked horrible on purpose.
That was no “smokescreen” that was poor execution.
I was however pleased with the D, they will be fine.
Schiano will not lose his job over Freeman, you can bet your ass on that.
Free better step it up because his seat is getting hotter and hotter.
It’s less of a matter of “not having a better option” and more of a matter of him not being the correct option. IMO, Unless he turns the corner that is. I just think by now he is who he is.
Maybe he would be more successful if we changed the offense?
Since it seems to be so complicated.
August 25th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Susanna Collins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fZXLBX0T0qw
August 25th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
I’m a “great fan” as well!!! 😛 ahahaha
August 25th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
@PRBucFan
Lol, Hell yeah!!!!
August 25th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Thanks LUV 🙂
August 25th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
We all family HERE!!! Lets GO !!!
August 25th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Yes, that’s right… let’s go to a second incorrect option, maybe even a third or fourth incorrect option. That’s so much better an idea than going with the “we don’t have a better option” option. Wait… if we don’t have a better option, shouldn’t we stick with the best option until we HAVE a better option? Nah, that’s just silly… how could we possibly blame one guy for the team’s failures unless we just put in the “isn’t a better option” option and make it obvious it’s the one guy. Stop with the excuses. It’s not just the QB. The O-line was pitiful. The WRs couldn’t catch. The D was letting them march up and down the field (fortunately stopping just in time to allow only FGs). I can’t even say the coaching staff is without some responsibility. The team’s record and the appearance the team has in the preseason is on ALL of the above… anything else is just an excuse and apologizing for the rest of the deficiencies by pointing the finger at one.
August 25th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
Too much panic. You guys need to relax, lol.
Schiano’s job is not in jeorardy at all. He’ll be here at least 5 years if not longer.
Before everyone jumps off the bandwagon how about we actually witness the results for this season?
August 26th, 2013 at 2:52 am
Simply put if after this season we get the same inconsistent Free, he wont be here any longer.
WHETHER OR NOT we have the answer
You don’t stick with what you know is not the solution just because your uncertain of what that solution is. You keep plugging away at it until you find it.
EASY OR NOT
And If indeed this season goes to ruins and Free doesn’t turn the corner than guess what??? He’s not the solution and the longer he’s here taking snaps under center is just the longer we are prolonging this franchise from finding our guy. So we move on no matter how long or hard the road ahead might be.
HOPEFULLY this never has to happen, but IF NOT it’s as they say, you can’t fit a square peg in a round hole.