Banks Gets “Overleveraged”
July 31st, 2013
Joe keeps an eye on Greg Schiano during practice quite often, and it’s always interesting to see Schiano’s reaction to a play when the first-team offense is against the first-team defense.
Who can/does/should Schiano root for?
Late in practice today during a two-minute drill, Josh Freeman completed a pass in the left corner to Kevin Ogletree at about the 10 yard line. Ogletree was 1-on-1 with rookie Johnthan Banks covering. Ogletree turned to Banks and gave him a nothing juke and cut past him inside for a touchdown.
Schiano was not sporting a happy face.
After practice, Schiano said “we overleveraged the route or the tackle, and Ogletree ducked inside.”
Perhaps that’s one of the “bad habits” of Banks that Schiano referenced yesterday.
Now’s the time for Banks to be a rookie. He’s got to learn through the preseason. The home-opener against Drew Brees is not the time.
July 31st, 2013 at 4:49 pm
The rook getting schooled by our average vet Wr,,,,,,,shocking!
8 more days till Bucs 1st preseason game,,,,,,can’t wait!
July 31st, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Work the poor reps out of him before preseason is over.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn. Banks is “learning” until game days. I hope he can work his learning curve.
There is a reason Bill Belichick is gravitated towards Rutgers players. Schiano’s program is straight shooting, rough necking, extremely disciplined. I imagine O’l Greg will loosen up the reigns when the time is appropriate.
With all that being said, I really hope we come out this year and whoop some A$s. I look for this Defense to be extremely competitive (Top 10), and I look for Freeman to go out and earn that 100 million. Bucs in the playoffs, and we can make some noise.
Our roster is leaps and bounds better than in 2010, and that was a 10 win team. Martin/Hillis/James/Smith > LGB/Caddy/Lumpkin.
If Freeman can take care of the ball as well as he did in 2010, we could make he NFC title game and beyond.
If this is a coin flip, inconsistent QB, then expect less than 9 wins. QBs are everything nowadays. Guarantee a QB goes #’s 2 after Clowney in this draft.
July 31st, 2013 at 4:57 pm
It’s hardly our first team defense…(without Revis)…and it is likely but remains to be seen if Banks beats out Johnson….but, not every pass in practice or in a game will be covered perfectly….just as every pass is not thrown perfectly.
After all, he is still a rookie.
July 31st, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Work the poor reps out of him before preseason is over.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn. Banks is “learning” until game days. I hope he can work his learning curve.
There is a reason Bill Belichick is gravitated towards Rutgers players. Schiano’s program is straight shooting, rough necking, extremely disciplined. I imagine O’l Greg will loosen up the reigns when the time is appropriate.
With all that being said, I really hope we come out this year and whoop some A$s. I look for this Defense to be extremely competitive (Top 10), and I look for Freeman to go out and earn that 100 million. Bucs in the playoffs, and we can make some noise.
Our roster is leaps and bounds better than in 2010, and that was a 10 win team. Martin/Leonard/Hillis/James/Smith > LGB/Caddy/Lumpkin.
If Freeman can take care of the ball as well as he did in 2010, we could make he NFC title game and beyond.
If this is a coin flip, inconsistent QB, then expect less than 9 wins. QBs are everything nowadays. Guarantee a QB goes #’s 2 after Clowney in this draft.
July 31st, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Work the poor reps out of him before preseason is over.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn. Banks is “learning” until game days. I hope he can work his learning curve.
There is a reason Bill Belichick is gravitated towards Rutgers players. Schiano’s program is straight shooting, rough necking, extremely disciplined. I imagine O’l Greg will loosen up the reigns when the time is appropriate.
With all that being said, I really hope we come out this year and whoop some A$s. I look for this Defense to be extremely competitive (Top 10), and I look for Freeman to go out and earn that 100 million. Bucs in the playoffs, and we can make some noise.
Our roster is leaps and bounds better than in 2010, and that was a 10 win team. Martin/Leonard/Hillis/James/Smith > LGB/Caddy/Lumpkin.
If Freeman can take care of the ball as well as he did in 2010, we could make he NFC title game and beyond.
If this is a coin flip, inconsistent QB, then expect less than 9 wins. QBs are everything nowadays. Guarantee a QB goes #’s 2 (with 2 in “top 10”) after Clowney in this draft.
July 31st, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Not to get nit-picky or anything, but I’ve always kind of had this POV on the Revis deal. I’m happy to have him on our team and all. It’s just that with the kind of money that they are paying him. Could the Bucs have not found atleast 3 pretty good DB’s through free agency instead of Revis? It’s always been in the back of my mind.
July 31st, 2013 at 5:20 pm
@Buc1987
You can only have eleven guys on the field. Revis does the work of a corner and a safety. There is no amount of “quality” corners that make up for that kind flexibility.
Revis was not acquired simply because we had a hole at CB. He was acquired because A) He is an absolute GAME CHANGER in every sense of the phrase. (He literally changes the game when he is on the field.) and B) He was actually available to us. It was just the cherry on top that we had the cap space and a tremendous need at the position.
Revis also gives us an opportunity to develop a young CB like Johnson or Banks WITH HELP over the top on almost every play. A rare commodity to be able to focus on protecting just one of your CBs.
July 31st, 2013 at 5:24 pm
@1987
All that money is why I say its not our 1st string defense without Revis on the field…..
I look at it this way……when you have 3 pretty good CBs….you have no CB.
Time will tell but I think he brings leadership to make the other players much better.
We paid a lot of money and gave up a 1 & 2 pick for Gruden & he won us a Superbowl…..was it worht it?
The money for Revis will mean a lot more next year & beyond rather than this year….we still have cap space left.
July 31st, 2013 at 5:27 pm
8 more days till Bucs 1st preseason game,,,,,,can’t wait to talk real football.
July 31st, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Freeman just mentioned Banks & # 28 as being really good rookies in the secondary.
#28 is Rashaan Melvin. That is encouraging….
July 31st, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Okay I was jus’ sayin’ anyways. I mean I was not looking for them to go out and get the best in the business is all. The secondary was sooooooo dreadful last season that 3 pretty good corners would have been good enough for me. Anything would have been an upgrade and there was quite a few quality DB’s out there on the market. If Revis is and stays healthy though, it’s a MAJOR upgrade. I get what your saying Tampabaybucfan he will take up 1/2 of the field. I just would have been more comfortable knowing there was more quality depth if 1 DB goes down with injury. I’m also happy with Banks and Johnson as well. Again just saying.
July 31st, 2013 at 6:04 pm
If Revis DOES get injured again (crossing fingers and knocking wood). That means the_bucs_realist will be out for more Dominik blood. I consider myself a realist as well. So like I said in my above comment we could HAVE went the route of the 3 quality DB’s and I will help realist sharpen his knives.
July 31st, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Buc 1987,
IF there is one player on this team, worth 16m when healthy, it is Revis. He is a HOFer, and the best of his generation. You will eat your words.
Freeman makes 11m this year, Revis is easily 5m per better than Freeman.
July 31st, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Eat my words? Which words? The part where I said I’m happy he’s on the team? Was I bashing Revis? I don’t think so. Check that I’m MORE than happy he’s on the team. What if he re-injures himself Steve? What say you then? I’m not saying he will but what then is what I’m saying. I know how good he is, I’ve seen him play. Just saying the Bucs had all kinds of options to address the secondary problem in the off-season and I hope it all pans out. Jimminy Christmas am I EVER skeptical on this site? EVER? There is no words for me to eat. It’s you Freeman bashers that will be silent come mid season. BTW I’m a Bucs fan so I LOVE defense, I could care less about QB’s and such. Even though I defend Freeman like he’s my brother, only because I know your all wrong. Back off Jack.
July 31st, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Steve,
I don’t always agree with you, but in the NFL you can’t put a price on elite.
July 31st, 2013 at 8:20 pm
1987,
You know I’m with you on Freeman! I’ve got a Budweiser & Daytona tickets for Robert and a free lap dance @ Scores for the Realist (God Knows he needs it) if Freeman screws the pooch this year.
July 31st, 2013 at 8:38 pm
@Bucnjim
Sorry bucnjim. But there is no way you are getting into my lap!!!!!
July 31st, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Yeah,
Unless you live in Green Bay 225 is not your size.
August 1st, 2013 at 10:09 am
“What if he re-injures himself Steve? What say you then?”
Well, I’d say we got unlucky. Players get injured every year. I’d bet the Jets weren’t counting on him getting busted up last year. Prior to that he had hever had a major inkury (according to him), so he was hardly injury prone. In a violent game like football there is no certain way to prevent injury, except to not play. A team that plays scared of injury will NEVER have any success. That all said there are things you can do, like easing recovering players back into the lineup & such, and I’m sure the Bucs are doing all they can, but you pays your money & takes your chances, beyond that.