Mocking: Blaine Gabbert
April 15th, 2013
A mock draft from a pair of respected NFL minds has the Bucs trading their second round pick for Jaguars quarterback Blaine Gabbert.
Friday afternoon, Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan, co-hosts of “Movin’ the Chains,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio, had their second mock draft. The full two rounds of their mock can be found here.
The duo has Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik awfully busy a week from Thursday night. They forecasted Dominik trading the Nos. 13 and 73 picks to Cleveland for its No. 9 pick where the Bucs land Florida State cornerback Xavier Rhodes.
But Dominik won’t be done with that, Kirwan and Ryan say. They predict Dominik will then trade their second round pick to Jacksonville for the No. 64 pick in the draft and quarterback Blaine Gabbert.
Now Joe has to admit this is creative thinking here, but Joe can’t see it. If Dominik were to pull off such a move, it would scream “panic” all over the place.
Joe knows Greg Schiano wanted competition for quarterback Josh Freeman, but Gabbert is miserable and in no way is he worth a high second round pick.
Second, such a move would signal to Joe that Freeman’s days with the Bucs are all but numbered if the Bucs are willing to spend a second round pick on a quarterback. You just don’t do that for a backup.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:04 am
I thought the talk about the Bucs drafting Tavon Austin was the height of stupidity for draft talk. Somehow they found a way to one-up themselves. We’re going to trade up take a CB when the draft is deep with CBs and then trade away our second round pick for a back up? Not happening.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:04 am
I wouldn’t give up a whopper I found on the sidewalk for Gabbert.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:08 am
What is today Make a rumor Monday? I love the stories but the closer we get to draft day the crazier the rumors fly. I need to start my own so here we go Mark Dominik is being traded to the Vikings
April 15th, 2013 at 10:10 am
Why would anyone give up a second round pick for Gabbert? That’s ridiculous. If the Bucs spend a second round pick on a QB, they might as well roll the dice with any of the QBs in the draft. Spending a second rounder on a QB is pretty much saying you’re planning on starting the guy at some point in the near future. I don’t think the Bucs are at that point yet. Give Freeman another year without the distractions.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Why would the Bucs have to move up for Rhodes? If anything they’d move down and pick up an extra pick for Rhodes…Blaine Gabbert? The guys writing this have been hittin’ the sauce way too much.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:20 am
This is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen in my life. Glad he isn’t my GM.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:24 am
The only way the Bucs trade up is to get Milner. Rhodes is at best a low 1st or 2nd. Way over rated. Of course Gabbert is out of the question.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:24 am
To be fair, the value of Gabbert in that scenario is a 3rd or 4th round pick, since the bucs would be giving up # 44 overall (I think that’s their current second round pick) for #64 (another 2nd round pick) and Gabbert.
Not saying I would support this trade, but the value of Gabbert is equivalent to a 3rd or 4th round pick, not a second.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Also, if you ever listen to Kirwan and Ryan, they ALWAYS say when doing their Mocks, that it’s just for fun, and in no way are they using any inside knowledge to base moves on, nor should their Mocks be taken as any kind of serious prediction.
It’s kind of funny, that when you hear these guys; specifically Kirwan and Ryan; talk about Mock drafts when they’re not doing them, they almost always mention how pointless they are and how little they mean, however they understand the value of them from sports talk perspective, especially in the format they do them in (live, pick-by-pick, alternating picks) and it drives listeners to the radios and callers to the phones.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:35 am
Oh the joy that is Pat Kirwan, who is talking about the draft rather than being involved in a draft for a reason. I remember him mocking Ricky Sapp to the Bucs in the top of the 2nd round in 2010 (actual pick: Brian Price) and I thought to myself “Ricky Sapp?!?.”
Ricky Sapp was drafted in the 5th round by the Eagles that year. After hurting his bum knee as a rookie, Sapp quit on the Eagles the next year and was fired. To this day Ricky Sapp has not recorded one tackle or sack in the NFL. Meaning Joe and Ricky have the same amount of NFL production on their resume’s. God bless your awful, awful mock draft abilities Kirwan.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:39 am
Joe never understood this. What’s the point then? Doing mocks just for fun is a waste of time and in Joe’s eyes hurts the credibility of whoever is doing this. Joe understands mocks are very, very difficult. if a mocker hits on a third of the picks, it’s like winning the lottery. But just doing mocks for spits and giggles is just throwing crap against the wall. What other crap are your throwing up besides mocks?
That’s Dan Sileo stunts.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:44 am
@Charlie B – Absolutely agree with you.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Ewwwweeee!!!!
April 15th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Everyone does mocks for fun, Joe. Everyone.
I agree this would be a bad move, but I also think the Jags have given up on Blaine Gabbert a bit too soon. I agree he looks “miserable”, but in all fairness, the Jags have not given him a fair chance to succeed. The coaching staff has changed multiple times.
Stability plays a large role in QB development.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:51 am
And frankly, I think any team could get Blaine Gabbert with a 6th rounder.
April 15th, 2013 at 11:02 am
@ Joe
Like I said, they know that the Mock Draft drives listeners to their show. It’s basically a business decision to do a Mock draft (and multiple ones at that), live on-air.
Again, when I’ve heard them, Kirwan in particular, talk about Mock drafts when it’s not “Mock Draft Season”; basically May thru March; they really don’t care for them, but understand that it’s virtually part of their job during the month of April.
Basic economics, there’s a demand from their clientele for this type of entertainment, so they are supplying it.
April 15th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Between the ridiculous mock draft selections (WR over defense), insane trade projections (Gabbert for a 2nd round pick), numerous complaints of not signing more players in free agency and now the latest story on PFT about the Jets pressing ‘pause’ on the Revis trade even though the Bucs are apparently offering multiple picks (including this years first round selection), I don’t think I’ve ever wanted June 1st to arrive faster.
I can’t take it anymore. These stories are getting beyond ridiculous. From my count, the Bucs will draft either a lineman (offensive or defensive), a CB, a wideout, a defensive end and who knows what else in the first round…that is if they don’t end up trading for a player who will leave his current team after this season. Of course this player is currently the property of the most dysfunctional franchise in the NFL.
I’m all for acquiring Revis. I would hope it can be done without having to give up several draft picks, but honestly, at this point, I just want this cycle of misinformation / non-information / pulling info out of one’s backside to be over with. Trade for Revis, don’t trade for him, whatever, I just want the association with the clowns in New York to be over with.
One last thing which bears repeating: Blaine Gabbert for a 2nd round pick!?!?!? Maybe for a 6th round pick, but if he’s dealt to the Bucs for a 2nd round pick, I request both Dominik an Schiano to be tested for bathsalts. Heck, I might end up eating my own face if a 2nd round pick is changing hands for Gabbert. Unreal.
April 15th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Meh Said:
“I wouldn’t give up a whopper I found on the sidewalk for Gabbert.”
well, now… is the whopper just laying on the street all apart or still together? is it in the box or not? does it have cheese and bacon? and this is not a whopper jr. correct?
as to mocks…they are fun to read at times, but others, just meh. also, i wonder if some of these media types are contractually obligated to have a mock (e.g. kiper, mcshay)
April 15th, 2013 at 11:14 am
this is retarded we have way too many holes to trade our second round pick for a QB who is worse than the one we have right now. This is horrible sports reporting by them this would never happen
April 15th, 2013 at 11:35 am
OMG, this is the dumbest thing I’ve read in weeks! No way in HELL do we trade up for anyone NOR trade any picks for Gabbert. This is 3 minutes none of us will ever get back!!
April 15th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Why does anyone get irked about Mock Drafts? And more confusing, when a fan sees something they don’t like, why do they say “if the team does that, I’ll….”, especially when it involves a trade of Mock Draft picks? Guessing what a team will pick is difficult enough, guessing that they will trade the pick, to whom, and for how much is impossible. Yet some fans will let these Mock Drafts stir emotions in them, to the point of getting ready to blame the front office for these moves that will not happen.
April 15th, 2013 at 11:38 am
If the bucs front office is honestly stupid enough to trade a second rounder for gabbert I’m done being a bucs fan. What a joke
April 15th, 2013 at 11:40 am
I’m just glad Kirwan and Ryan aren’t the Bucs’ GM!
April 15th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
I’m not reading another artcle about any mock drafts! I’ve had enough of these wild speculations. Give me some facts already.
April 15th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
If any Bucs fan supports this, you are officially disowned.
Moving up for a guy that is a questionable pick at 13…and prob will be there, losing our 3rd rounder in the process.
Then trading our 2nd for Gabbert.
First 3 picks get us Rhodes and Gabbert, Id kill somebody
April 15th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
Please Joe you are damaging us?
Next time just don’t tell us. PLEASE
April 15th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Third, who wants a QB named Blaine?
Is Rhodes really a top ten pick? Everything I had heard before today thought a CB (except Milliner) at 13 was a stretch.
April 15th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Peter King doesn’t. Mike Mayock doesn’t. There’s two right off the top of Joe’s head.
Responsible people do not.
Throwing s(p)it on the wall to Joe is not “fun.”
April 15th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Joe,
If Mark Dominick drafts the 3rd CB off the board at the #13 selection, then trades our 2nd round pick for Gabbert, then all hell will break lose.
We will suck, and be at the bottom of the division for the next 2-3 years.
I hope this doesn’t happen, it would be just as bad as watching Albert Haynesworth get to wear pewter.
Rockstar needs to get Revis, and draft BPA, and there is no “need” on this roster, apparently. If so, Dominick, would have addressed said “needs” in free agency.
Dominick must be 100% confident in our playoff chances, after all we do have 33.5 million in the bank, Myron Lewis, and back-to-back NFC Divisional Dumpster Crowns.
April 15th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
I’d rather see Jeff Garcia (serious 100%) than Gabbert. He looks scared back there, not good.
April 15th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
stevek:
Understandably so.
April 15th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
That’s a stupid pick and a stupid trade-up because Rhodes will be there at 13….
… which means I FULLY expect Dominik to make that move.