Giants Model Will Influence Schiano
April 4th, 2013
One great mystery surrounding the Bucs’ 2013 draft plans is how a Darrelle Revis deal/no-deal factors in.
Yeah, one could say the Bucs will draft the best player available and/or they have so many needs on defense Revis won’t affect the draft, but that’s all dream-world talk. There’s no way the Bucs won’t be influenced by the state of the Revis union/non-union come three weeks from today at the NFL Draft.
Renowned Sirius NFL Radio host Pat Kirwan, who also coached Jets linebackers with Monte Kiffin and now works for CBSSports.com, believes he has the Bucs’ draft figured out in his latest mock draft for CBS. Kirwan says the New Schiano Order will stay focused on the trenches in the first round.
12. Miami Dolphins: Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State: Rhodes has a rare combination of height, long arms and skills to cover. Sean Smith is gone in Miami and Rhodes is a solid replacement.
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Ezekiel Ansah, DE, Brigham Young: The Bucs will think long and hard about a corner like Trufant and Rhodes if he was still on the board. Bucs head coach Greg Schiano watched the New York Giants closely when he was the head coach of Rutgers and he knows a defensive end with Ansah’s skills is always a solid pick. You can never have enough pass rushers in the NFL.
14. Carolina Panthers: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: The Panthers need to shore up the inside of their defensive line. Lotulelei is versatile and can play either nose or 3 tech. He has quickness to penetrate, and a burst to pursue.
Might the Bucs draft another DE with a premium draft pick, after snagging DaQuan Bowers and Adrian Clayborn just two years ago?
Joe would hardly be surprised, as Joe’s written previously. But the absence of any new cornerbacks bodies in free agency makes that less and likely by the hour.
As for Kirwan’s breakdown, in this scenario, Joe would prefer to see the Bucs bag Lotulelei, who might do more for the pass rush than John Abraham Ansah.
April 4th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
I think if star is there I would take him before ansah. I also read somewhere Rhodes is slipping because of his pro day, has anyone else heard that? If thats the case and star and ansah are gone, I would definately trade back. Its going to be a long three weeks
April 4th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Ziggy Ansah is the ONLY non CB or DE i’d take…..he’s a freak of nature (and makes Bowers & Clayborn look like 5 year old school boys)
April 4th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Special DTs are harder to come by than DEs – that said I would be more interested in getting Lotulelei or a CB before Ansah.
We can get a DE later in the draft.
Either way I am all for adding to the defense. Adding Revis and another few defensive studs will make our defense better.
We aren’t that far off!
April 4th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
I like Pat Kirwan, but no way do I see us taking a DE at this pick (if we still have it)!
I do see us taking a D Lineman though.
Plus, to draft another DE with our first pick, is for Dominik to admit he was wrong selecting Bowers and Claiborne so highly, a short time ago.
April 4th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Ansah > Star > CB not named Milliner
BPA all the way to the bank!
April 4th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Anybody think Werner or tank will fall to second or late first round so we can trade up? I want star in round 1 btw and jamar Tyler or honey in round 3
April 4th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Yeah, I don’t see it either. If we go D line at 13, it should be a DT
April 4th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
@Sunny,
I don’t think Taylor will be there in the third. Have read that New England (among others) might be looking at him as their first CB pick possibly in the 2nd round.
April 4th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Don’t be shocked if you see the Bucs go offense and Draft a TE or OT. lol.
April 4th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Sneedy,
TE could be the pick? I agree, we need one more weapon on the offense: talented TE, or talented slot WR.
Hopefully a “Top 10” talent falls to #13, hopefully two QBs come off the board by our pick.
I am liking the idea of trading back and getting whatever top talent falls to us. I just don’t want us to “reach” too far and sacrifice talent vs need.
April 4th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Couldn’t agree more Joe. Great analysis! Lotulelei over Ansah any day. Backup pass rushers aren’t as valuable as starting pass rushing/run stuffing NTs. Period. Can’t help if you’re on the bench. Lotulelei is farrrrrr superior to Ansah in talent anyway.
Sad fact is he won’t be there. I don’t think either of them will be.
April 4th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
I’d take Ansah ONLY if he can also line up at DT.
April 4th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
If we get Star trade next year 1 for revis then trade back into late first and get Marcus hunt then in 3rd get the linebacker from usm> we will be a nasty d man
April 4th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
@Sneedy,
I would not be mad if the Bucs went with OT or elite TE (Eifert) only because he is balanced/blocking-explosive.
My thing is defense is a need and a glaring gap between playoffs and being at home. But I cant help but wonder with all of these toys on offense and Freeman comes out with that ‘Deer-In-The-Headlight’ empty look he has (unable to complete passes – skipping balls-missing WRs) what happens on defense when you have wasted another opportunity catering to #5.
I think we better be sold on him of we go offense, if we doubt lets go defense. I doubt so I say Milliner, DT, DE or trade down.
April 4th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
You pays your money & takes your choice. If Ansah can play sam, he fills two needs–hand on the ground on 3rd down.Bowers could then take the DT pass-rushing role. OTOH, Ansah is a high-risk, high upside guy; fom what I have read, peeps who have watched his college film say he just didn’t make many plays. Lotulelei is a safer pick, & also valuable; he’d be my druthers.
April 4th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
I worry about Star Lotulelei’s heart condition. I think he has great skills, but his health would always be a concern.
April 4th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
@joe star in the first . . . Hoping Werner or Richardson or tank fall to late first or second grab one then honey or Tyler in the 3rd or trade up to late second . . . That would be sick
April 4th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Also revis with next years first
April 4th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
With Bowers and Clayborn at the ends, Im gonna have to go DT (or CB Milliner) unless theres lingering injury concerns for our DE’s. Star’s heart has been cleared. So I would go Star or Richardson over Ziggy. Ziggy’s a beast, yes, but he’s not very experienced and that worries me a little….especially transitioning to the NFL. But my guess is both of them, along with Milliner, will be gone unless we trade up somewhere.
And if they are gone, and we’re not trading up, I still like the idea of trading down around 20, still pick up Eifert or Short, and trade back into the 1st for the one of those two. Jamar Taylor in the 2nd, Mathieu in the 3rd….defensive backfield improved…DT rush up the middle improved…and our Passing game gets injected with steroids with Eifert over the middle….and long as Mathieu behaves, our KR/PR GREATLY improves (plus the kid can play some CB)
April 4th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Meeee liiiiiike…. Also, getting compared to Peirre-Paul doesn’t suck either…
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1765317
April 5th, 2013 at 8:56 am
I would be happy with Ansah…his uside is sky-high and when you watch his tape he is just a freak…just so fast and strong it’ll give you visions of Dwight Freeney in his prime. It’s easy to say we have a hole to fill at defensive tackle…what isn’t so easy is knowing what Schiano wants at that position…If he really wants a guy there to eat up blockers like Miller did…a player like that can be found in the mid-rounds. I doubt that Ansah and Loutulelei will both still be there at 13, so that is a decision we likely won’t have to make.