Darrelle Revis Hampering Bucs’ Efforts?
April 3rd, 2013
If Captain Munnerlyn of the stinking Panthers is to believed, the reason why the Bucs have not signed a free agent cornerback, which has caused too many Bucs fans too many sleepless nights, is that Bucs rock star general manager is waiting on Jets general manager John Idzik to make a decision on whether to trade cornerback Darrelle Revis to the Bucs.
Munnerlyn appeared with Joe’s good friend, “The Commish,” Justin Pawlowski, of WHFS-FM 98.7 to discuss the NFC South today. Munnerlyn admitted the Bucs contacted his agent “several times” and seemed serious about signing him but the Bucs, Munnerlyn thought, failed to close the deal because they are handcuffed by indecision from the Jets.
“I had six or seven teams [reach out],” Munnerlyn said. “I was waiting on Tampa too, but I think they are waiting on Darrelle Revis. [The Bucs] contacted me several times. Them and my agent were going back and forth but couldn’t get [anything] done. I guess they are waiting on Darrelle Revis.”
Munnerlyn claimed the Bucs were up front with his agent and claimed they were waiting to make a move at corner but were hesitant not knowing Revis’ status.
“I had made up my mind to stay in Carolina,” Munnerlyn said of signing with the stinking Panthers. “My heart is in Carolina.”
Munnerlyn broke down the Bucs defense and lauded safetes Dashon Goldson and Mark Barron, claiming they may be the best tandem in the NFL. He was not as complimentary about the Bucs’ corners saying, “I could come in and play right away” had he signed with the Bucs.
Also, Munnerlyn claimed Josh Freeman played “a lot smarter” than in 2011, Vincent Jackson changed the Bucs offense, and he said Greg Schiano “did a wonderful job” in his first year with the Bucs.
The entire Munnerlyn interview can be heard by clicking here.
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Munnerly who?
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:43 pm
If Dominic screws this season up, the fans and the media should demand a replacement.
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:45 pm
22 days till we find out what the hell is going on.
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:54 pm
All signs are pointing to you can go ahead and start pre-ordering your Revis Bucs jersey’s.
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Every report out there has us as the most desperate in these negotiations, seems dominick and izik have painted themselves in a corner and it does have to get done but what im starting to worry is if dominick is as desperate as it seems, he’s gonna give up more than we can afford to give
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Can you really blame them, would munnerlyn have been an upgrade and claim a staring CB role….absolutely. But how much better would we be??? Dom has a plan, and at very least you gotta respect a man that won’t fall for anything. He is sticking to his guns whether this thing plays out in his favor or not and at this point I believe he feels he can live with his decision to not pull the trigger on anything that is not at his price. He is content on getting Revis in red and pewter and has a plan B.
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Munnerlyn was benched halfway I to the season and only got his job back due to injuries and he’s not much better than Wright if he’s even that good.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:04 pm
Keep calm…in Dom I trust. Revis will be a Buc!
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:06 pm
I think that we are in a pretty good situation right now,.. and Dom has a lot more info than we do,… let the man do his job and quit micro evaluating everything when we don’t have all the facts! Go BUCS!
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:07 pm
I tell you whats driving me more insane right now than the Revis talk, this meeting we had with Wright. Im anxious to get news on that. I for one really hope we can restructure his deal. Somewhere around 3Mil per sounds fair!! I want to believe that Revis, Wright, and a rookie has been the plan at CB all along.
My only critique to Dom is why wait so late to bring in Wright to restructure? What if he says no? Then what, we have to cut him right? In this case it would hurt because then we let some serviceable guys get away. However, you could then argue that the backup plan to that would be draft even more CB’s. But the key here is still landing Revis!!
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Hearing this is exactly what I expected.
A lot of clamor with FA CBs, only to sit back and wait on the Jets.
We better get Revis, that is all.
If we fail to land Revis, than Mark Dominick does not equal “rock star”, instead “4th Hanson Brother”..
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Nhamdi signed for 1 year 3 million.
Wright is due to make damn near 8 this year.
Is Wright really worth 5 million a year, or 62.5% more than Nhamdi?
Nope!
27 million not being used, and we want to sit back. I appreciate the testicular fortitude, but. 🙁 We are only worse at CB than we were after week 16 last year.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:11 pm
NFL PLAYOFFS FOR THE BUCS IN 2013!!!
No playoffs this year, and we will point right at Dominick for NOT SIGNING FA CBs.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:12 pm
And I repeat…
I still think all this is a smoke screen, Bucs will trade up for Miliner if they are able to keep this years #1. Then we have Miliner and Revis, no 2nd or 3rd round this year. After preseason cuts, bring in a vet LB to shore up D. At least this is my dream…
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:24 pm
You can’t use the contract Nnamdi signed as a fair measurement of Eric Wright’s worth, stevek, due to the fact Nnamdi requested his contract be non-guaranteed and also because he is still collecting money from Philadelphia.
A better measurement would be the remaining corners who signed one year deals, and after comparing those contracts, I think Eric Wright would be worth 3.5-4.5 million this season. Anything less is an extra bonus for the Bucs, and anything over 5 million is too much for Wright, imo.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Does anyone think…maybe…just maybe..that a deal is already in place and a part of that deal is keeping it quiet. For instance, what if the Bucs have a trade partner to trade down in the first round with, collect some extra pics, and have a later first round pick with other picks to trade for Revis without giving up any of our other 7 picks? We all know Dominick as well as other GMs do not like to reveal their hands before they have to. This sounds more like a Dominick deal to me.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:28 pm
man its going to be a long wait til draft day
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Calm down… I like where they’re headed and Dom/Schiano will make the right calls. The FA CB’s that were or are available either don’t fit the scheme or are just not an upgrade. So chill and let it all play out.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:34 pm
@Matt… interesting point you bring up. Maybe they are playing it close to the vest (?).
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:36 pm
@Rrsrq
If that happens I would be shocked and happy, but one can dream though.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Munnerlyn only supposed that the Bucs were waiting on Revis.
Revis – Trufant. Our 2013 CB starters.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Don’t jump the gun here for Draft day miricales or trades, it is still highly possible nothing comes to light until June for Revis. Sorry to be the bad news bear.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:48 pm
This might come off as ridiculous, but does anyone think Tim Tebow will be part of the Revis trade?
For example, the Bucs trade a couple picks and Blount for Revis and Tebow? I’m not saying I would choose to have Tebow on the team, but the Jets haven’t done anything with him this offseason as Tebow is basically untradeable by himself at this point. Schiano’s buddy Bill Belichick seemed to be enamoured with Tebow at one point, but that could have been a smokescreen or whatever.
Who knows. We’ll all find out what happens in the next few weeks.
April 3rd, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Ha what’s up with buccs fans throwin in random h’s when they don’t belong? Got Rhonde Barber. Nhamndi Asomugha. When are we trading for Darrell Rhevis?
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:00 pm
If we get solid corners we dont have a lot of wholes. Then excuses over for josh. Lead us to the playoffs!!! I can honestly say the only qb in recent memory I felt good about all the time was Garcia. Oh well we know who Josh is. Hes not going to show up one day and be peyton. All we can hope is all the weapons can keep him from getting all flustered and throwing lots of int.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:03 pm
What a bunch of squabbling chickens. Take a chill pill. We’re going to know whether we’ll get Revis or not days before the draft. If we don’t have a commitment by then we’ll trade up for Milliner or trade back and land another CB later in the first round. If we land Revis I think Blount will be the new starting RB for the Jets. I’m just fine with Wright and a first round CB as our starting CBs if we don’t land Revis. Not excited about it but it is what it is and I don’t think any of the other FA CBs that people think we “missed out on” would be much more than a waste of money for our team and a waste starting an old CB when we could be giving valuable starting time for one of our new rookie, future of the Buccaneers. We need to continue to build through the draft.
Regarding Tebow: Never gonna happen. Does anyone think Schiano is the type of coach that would want to put up with that type of media circus?
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Wirght played at least as well as Nnamdi the last two years and he is younger.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:19 pm
If Dom had brought in Nnamdi and he played like he did for Philly, you guys would be busting his balls over not being able to evaluate free agents.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Not sure what’s so surprising about any of this. Domimik sucks.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Then you kick his stupid arse out the door, draft two corners in the first three rounds and can still trade for Revis.
Wright has absolutely zero leverage. But as Joe’s old man once said, “It’s one thing to be stubborn and quite another to be stubborn and dumb.”
Dominik has Wright’s nuts in a vice.
Wight could either choose to play at a reduced rate of 50 percent or be a moron and try finding work at an 80 percent reduction.
Keyword: try.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:24 pm
If this is true that the Bucs told Munnerlyn, which I think it is. Why would we tell him and his agent that? Not sure what to think anymore. I guess time will tell. Go Bucs…
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:40 pm
2013 vs 2014 picks seems to be a major sticking point. the easiest way to make it a non-issue is to wait 4 weeks when there are no 2013 picks to trade
also, i am fairly certain that the bucs didn’t say “we’re waiting on Revis” to munnerlyn or his agent. in fact, it might be tampering. is it possible there were up front with them about the fact that they’d still be targeting a starter and possible high draft pick whether or not munnerlyn signs? definitely
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:43 pm
re: wright, if you’re going to ask the guy to take a paycut, your greatest leverage is also post-draft when everybody has sorted out their rosters and cap hit for the CB position. i can’t imagine wright would get more than 2 or 3 mil as a free agent at that point. i think the 2 most anticipated moves of the offseason (revis trade and wright cut\paycut) will see no progress until everyone flies home from the draft
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:47 pm
if the Jets are unsure about trading Revis and the bucs want Revis that bad then the bucs need to make an offer the jets cant refuse. something BIG like two 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick. of course it all hinges on how much the bucs really want Revis. if they really really really want him then the bucs need to give up the above compensation that I mentioned, which they are reluctant to do, and rightfully so. I dont think the jets will be interested in anything else.
and though I am grateful that Captain Munnerlyn gave us a little inside info its kind of sad that we got run to a potential free agent, and a division rival at that, for information. there was no sense in the bucs hiding this info because it came out anyway. whatever, not that big of a deal anyway.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:47 pm
i think Matt is onto something. I believe the Revis deal is done. I also believe dom handled Wright perfectly. by waiting for the other teams who are need of CB’s to sign up the crappy class and tie up their cap space with mediocre corners it’s less likely some other team will match or beat the bucs restructuring demands.
joe i am unclear when a team asks a player under currently contract to reduce salary does that give them the players agent a right to speak with other teams to gauge the players value. or does the tampering rule apply. it gives dom a take it or leave stance with wright unsure if he can beat the offer on the open market.
I personally think Wright is a dumbass but I am starting to warm up to the idea of dom stripping half his salary and make him earn it back. motivation does wonders.
April 3rd, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Joe, i think you are way off the mark on Rockstar vs Wright. If i was Wright i would rather take a much reduced 1 year contract from another team, then a reduced multi-year deal from the Bucs. If he takes a prove it deal,,,,,, say from the Patroits And they have a much improved pass rush and Wright get some decent INT then he will be a sought after Free Agent in 2014.
April 3rd, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Dominik’s plan for fixing the CB situation will become clear in the next few weeks. A trade for Revis and the drafting of at least one CB seems likely at this point. Dominik and Schiano have admitted the pass defense needs help. They won’t let an entire offseason go by without addressing one of the worst pass defenses in NFL history.
April 3rd, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Nnamdi only got 1.3M base salary from SF. Wright should take 2-3M for 1 year from the Buc’s.Getting this contract done would give the Buc’s more leverage.Draft Xavier and another CB and move on with plan B.This way the Buc’s grab all the leverage back.Lower their offer to the Jets to a 2nd rounder in 2014.Two rookie’s and Wright is not ideal but when Revis becomes a free agent.We can sign him for nothing (fully healed to boot).With all our rollover cap cash. I’m with Dom on this one.Unwilling to give up this year’s 1st rounder
April 3rd, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Again, it isn’t fair to include Nnamdi’s 49ers contract in the Eric Wright discussion unless you also include the money Nnamdi is receiving from Philadelphia, which is why he signed a below market contract in the first place with San Fran.
Based on the flurry of one year deals handed out to the free agent CB’s that were on the market, I’d stand firm on taking 3.5-4.5 million for next season re: Wright.
April 3rd, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Plus there is still time to nab a free agent corner for cheap. Look at the list of cb’s still out there.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?year=2013&position=29&status=1
April 3rd, 2013 at 6:20 pm
@the_buc_realist and what about if he plays fair/stinks on the (pats), could also be a oops moment.
I hope we just trade our first round pick with the jets for Revis. Maybe trade a player. Keep Wright with a renegotiated contract and get another cb with this pick. These CB with our S sound nice.
I wonder What happens to Dominik’s job if we finally get by hook or crook Mr. Revis and he is not quite the same as he once was, or has a set back. Or only plays just okay. I do not envy Dominik’s job security.
April 3rd, 2013 at 10:27 pm
With the Darrelle Revis saga, the damage is already done. This hampered direct decisions daily. Instead of reaching out to too many FA corners in the beginning allowed other teams to sign the top FA of a very weak cornerback market anyway. In hindsight, this could turn out to be a blessing, especially if Revis is 100% and signs.
April 4th, 2013 at 7:24 am
The Pop Star has a plan. Let all the decent CB’s get picked up in free agency. The Revis debacle will fall apart and he will begin picking the scraps off the heap(look for practice squad signings) for league minimum. All while staying 30M under the cap. It’s the same plan almost every year. Last year broke the cycle. Rinse and repeat.
April 4th, 2013 at 8:14 am
Nice response Joe!!
April 5th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Ok here it goes…Scubog that was some funny stuff…..The Skins just resigned whats his name (the QB from Chicago) and they signed Pat White (QB from WVU). How many QBs do they need when they have one of the best in RGIII. What if theres a trade already in place for that kid (Kurt Cousins) they drafted right behind RGIII from Michigan State. He stepped in for RGIII last season and had a hell of a game. I believe between here and the Jets with Revis that Blount is a part of a package deal. We trade down in the first round with the Redskins to pick up there first rounder, Kurt Cousins, and an additional pick later by trading them our first rounder and Blount (or Blount goes to the Jets). We than trade our first rounder this year (which is now a later first rounder) with an additional pick to get Revis. This way we retain the rest of our picks (2-6) and get a QB and top CB out of the deal. I dont know about you, but it sounds good to me.