Thankfully, An End To Aqib Talib Nonsense Talk
March 16th, 2013
So Joe breathed a sigh of relief to learn this afternoon that helmet-wielding, cabbie-slugging, pill-popping, granny-hassling Aqib Talib did the Bucs, and indirectly Bucs fans, a favor by signing a one-year pact with Bill Belicheat.
Joe actually turned on local radio airwaves yesterday afternoon — and quickly returned to SiriusXM NFL Radio — upon hearing people actually pining for the return of Talib! Can you imagine?
Why?! That’s like asking for another case of the mumps.
Joe literally has no idea where this fallacy came from that Talib is one of the game’s better corners. Even people who should know better peddle this absurd notion.
@RapSheet: On Talib: Smart of an elite CB to sign a 1-year deal in soft market, rather than a multi-year offer he got. He had 3 other options, stayed.
ELITE??? Good grief, have we, as Americans, lost our standards this badly? Just what exactly makes anyone think Talib is “elite?” Anyone that calls Talib “elite” is admitting they have never watched him play or have a far different definition of “elite.”
Simply playing for Belicheat does not make one “elite.”
Elite pain in the neck? Maybe. Elite talent? That’s debatable. Elite player? Don’t insult Joe.
Do elite corners allow Hakeem Nicks, not exactly to be confused with Jerry Rice, to charbroil them for 199 yards?
Just because one has talent does not make him elite. Reggie Bush has talent, for example. He’s not even close to being elite.
Then there’s Talib’s dependability, which is just slightly above depending on the weather in Chicago in March. When he’s not injured or suspended or incarcerated, yeah, Talib may be dependable. It’s hard to be dependable much less elite while caged in a county jail.
Joe would rather have Brandon McDonald than Talib. At least you can pretty much depend on McDonald to suit up and take the field.
Thank goodness this nonsense of Talib’s return to the Bucs is dead. At least for a year (sigh).
March 16th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
nice talib rant joe, couldn’t have expressed it any better in my foggy, hangover phase this morning. cheers!
March 16th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
SHUCKS!!! I was hoping we’d get another 4th rounder from NE for Wright….I am convinced the way we are proceeding that Revis is in our future.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Joe you need to take it easy on Talib. He is in fact an elite talent at cornerback. Don’t let his off the field problems blind you from what he is capable of in the field. You can’t blame the blitzing bill Sheridan for Eli and Nicks torching aqib. Get no pressure on the qb and leave any corner over on one with Hakeem nicks and it will be a long day. The elite Talib held Greg Jennings to 2 catches for 6 yards when the packers offense was really rolling. The elite talib is honestly the best cornerback our team has ever had on the field. His off the field antics are another story
March 16th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
McDonald can’t wash Talib’s jock but New England fans actually appreciate the kid as does Tom Brady and Bill “Belicheat”. Oh well who needs a talent like Talib with Danny Gorrer and Myron Lewis patrolling One Buc…
March 16th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Is Myron Lewis the next man up?
March 16th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Much rather have talib and his off field issues than Gorrer or Lewis anyday. If Dom doesn’t pull something big off on our CB front joe might have to stop saying rock star.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Let’s take it easy, Joe. I’m with you on the ridiculous notion that Talib is suddenly now elite since being traded to New England last season. Talib was approaching elite status as a corner a few years ago, but injuries, off field troubles and inconsistency have him in the ‘Very Good’ category, just below elite status.
I’d take him back over Brandon McDonald everyday of the week, especially Sundays in autumn. Aqib Talib should be more than solid for New England, but I fully expect something to happen, be it an injury late in the season or during playoffs, Stevie Johnson or Mike Wallace having a monster game on him, or just something stupid off the field. If he stays out of trouble, New England will have to consider using the franchise tag next season as I fully expect a cap penalty free Redskins team to make a strong push for his services.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Brandon mcdonald…. over talib… that deserves a C’mon mannnnnn! Id personally take talib back on a one year 5 mil offer. why not. not like brandon mcdonald has a chance to even consider matching up against julio jones.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
He was considered garbage when he was on our roster. He turned elite the second he was traded to the Pats before even playing a snap. These media people need to get out from under Belichick’s satchel. I think he gave up the most TD’s per snap in the league.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
granted it didn’t help that barron crept up in the box every play, idk why.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
I wonder if the Schiano Order has taken any interest in Sebastian Vollmer.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
One of our local radio shows was trying to stir the pot for ratings like they always do. At no point was Talib a consideration. These are the same people that tried to question Shianos character if he didn’t cut Talib now they want him back?
I am however getting tired an impatient with the Reevis talk. I hope we don’t give up a first rounder to trade for him. We have soo many needs at Defensive line and corner we should have signed 2 other corners by now and still be looking forward to all of our draft picks. Pleanty of linemen this year.
March 16th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Don’t worry so much about the elite Talib, we are interested in bringing back the elite EJ Biggers.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Talib showed signs of talent his first year. He regressed every subsequent year. He played badly for New England. He also conviently didn’t play inthe playoff game- where he would have been humiliated
His contract is probably very much like Wright’s. void if he is arrested, or fails a drug test. Most of money is probably incentive. Part for playing 16 games. Etc.
Anyone who has watch Talib- and thinks he is a good Cornerback, doesn’t know what they are looking at. Bellacheat has spent so much on his offense, that Talib is an option ,because he’s cheap. If he screws up- void his contract. Make him earn money by earning bonuses. It’s a cheap fix. Nothing more
March 16th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
JOE: just swa on si.com that revis wants to be traded to the FINS in south florida. What is your take on this.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Joe- you are absolutely correct on this one. It’s Scary how little some of this people can remember, or know about football. It’s like they’ve been lobotimized.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
How in the world could the fins afford him? Did you not see the shopping spree they have been on. That’s nonsense.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Bucs talking to Biggers about coming back!
March 16th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Cmurda: don’t get mad at me i am just saying what i saw on si.com i don’t pay attention to any other team then the BUCS
March 16th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Cmurda: don’t get mad at me i am just saying what i saw on si.com
March 16th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
sorry sent it 2 times
March 16th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
LOL. Not directed at you. It seems ridiculous for si.com to report that. With my luck its true though.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
ya i know. but why would mark dom let this one go? i am hell he just scwred up and let a man beast in michael bennet. what the hell is going on down there at one buc?
March 16th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
do my last comment was meesed up sorry guys
March 16th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
BTW can’t wait to see that most of the Bucs corners that helped accomplish a near-record of pass defense futility will return while half of the starting d-line that accomplished the top run defense in the NFL bolts for marginal pay elsewhere. Someone give Dummynick a raise!
March 16th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Can they TRY to upgrade ANY other position PLEASE? I am tried of seeing all these other teams making moves, and here we sit waiting for the Revis magic. Get another Tackle, we need CB help, so what they are telling us, the people that were and are available are NOT an upgrade on what this team has? BULL!
March 16th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Hey guys this is from Si.com about revis WOW!!
07:39 AM ET 03.16 | An associate said cornerback Darrelle Revis, the subject of trade rumors, would welcome Dolphins interest if the Jets don’t keep him and if Miami decided to pursue it. There’s been no indication that Miami has any interest in trading for Revis, who’s coming off a major knee injury and could be a free agent next spring.
Miami Herald
March 16th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Apparently the broncos don’t want to resign Elvis Dumerville anymore I think the bucs should at least offer a contract.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
LOL all that time spent on Revis and it doesn’t even look like they’re gonna get him. Dominick is a failure. Worst secondary for years now. Same ole same ole
March 16th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
If the Revis thing falls apart, the season will be a wash already, and undo all the good things last year.
March 16th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Patrick- you nailed it on the head. this is what it looks like a big waste of time inless things turn around in the bucs favior. Wish joe would coment on this. 🙂
March 16th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
You got it Robbie_G
March 16th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Well guys here we go.
Woody Johnson gives Revis another million
Posted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2013, 3:48 PM EDT
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Jets owner Woody Johnson may not want to pay cornerback Darrelle Revis later, but Johnson is definitely paying Revis now.
As pointed out by Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, today is the day on which Revis earns a roster bonus of $1 million.
Revis also is due to receive a reporting bonus of $1 million, a workout bonus of $1 million, and a base salary of $3 million.
Of course, it won’t matter if he’s traded, since he’ll get a new contract. Unless the Jets eventually decide to trade him without his new team signing him to a new deal — which will mean that someone could get him for one year, $5 million.
Which pretty much falls in line with the current free-agent cornerback market.
March 16th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
From Crabtree’s Twitter page.
Thanks for the warm welcome Bucs fans! Excited and thankful for this opportunity.
March 16th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Cmurda ??????????
March 16th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
oh ya duh..
March 16th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Maybe they are trying to swing a trade for Blount and wright before they make any moves… I’ve been hearing the bucs haven missed out on a few trades this free agency so maybe they are trying to trade for some players instead of picking up free agents… Just a thought..
Maybe they trade for Revis and 2 other players ?? ??
March 16th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Dominick has basically subtracted our #1 rush defense from last year away from this team, letting Miller and Bennett walk like it’s nothing. That was probably the best accomplishment on our team last year. Now I guess they want it back to 2009-2011 level?
March 16th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
The scary part is the Jets didnt balk at paying a million today. They must not be too enthused by Rockstar’s trade offer for Revis. If Revise goes elsewhere, would that be part of the plan?
March 16th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
SOme of you have been stating you WANT Talib back.
You need to re-watch the games of Talib. He was above average. He NEVER played up to what his potential was. He gambled and lost ALOT. He thought he was better than he was. THen of couse off the field …. not worth it. Give met he guys from last year back over him
March 16th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
what the heck will it be like here if the bucs do not acqire revis nor dumervil?
scary thought…i need to get some earplugs!
i did find some good news…
with all this going on, noone is btching about josh freeman!
lmao
March 16th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
So the jets paid revis a million to hang on to him a little while longer? Why would They pay him if they plan to trade him?
Can anyone explain?
March 16th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Give me time to come up with something Lurker 😀
March 16th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
oh well, that didn’t last long…
vic66 in the thread before this one, @5:25, already ruined my good news 🙁
@silence
ps that wasn’t a challenge 🙂
March 16th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
Dave, so if Talib is above average, what is the current crop of Bucs corners? Would you rather have well-below-average over above average because of the off the field stuff?
March 16th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
I think the jets are just playing games.. They are bluffing in paying out the 1 million trying to convince they world they won’t part with Revis. bottom line is they are hoping someone gives in and offers them what they are asking but no teams is silly enough to give them what they want.
Revis wil.not be a jet at the start of the season and the Bucs have the best offer on he tale. It’s just a matter of time.. Be patient..
And.. We don’t get the trade done.. Well at least we tried.. I’m sure we have sme contingency plans thought out just in case.. We cold always use those draft picks we were going to use in the Revis trade to possibly trade for more players off another team, and remember there is the draft to come as well..
Just be patient.. I’m sure Dom and schiano don’t wake up every morning trying to figure out how to lose their jobs.. They obviously have he same goals as us and that is trying to make this team better… May not seem like it but that is the cold hard truth so lets all support the decisions instead of criticing them and just give them a chance..
March 16th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
No need to panic….. But Brent “notwalkingdead” Grimes is in Clev and could very well sign with the Browns, ways things are going probably a 1 or 2 yr deal at 4-5 Million. Bucs and other team must critical of his injury as they pursued him last year. Bucs have no problem with knee problems, but maybe this is something that scares them away. Still hoping for CB help, see how it plays out. I don’t claim to know much and def trust in the front office, but 3 names I’ve been mentioning are still out there. Grimes, Myers (TE) and Adam jones he would add good CB value and on special teams? What doesn’t Bucsnation think??
March 16th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Revis is going nowhere. Time to move on (thank God).
March 16th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
BuccaneerBonzai
link?
March 16th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
A good article explaining some of the bucs free agency moves
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/bucs-will-spend-even-on-revis-if-8230/2109466
March 16th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
this might be the plan…pair up goldson with barron as the safetys…i think dom might believe barron will develop in year 2 and playing with goldson can only help and increase his progress…bump ronde back to corner and pair him with either revis or grimes…so possibly steal grimes away from atlanta…in fact if they can land both revis and grimes, and get ronde back for another year to play as like a floater between the 2 positions….either safety or corner as needed…maybe sign biggers as a backup and leonard johnson should be kept for developmental purposes…gorrer should not be on the squad….if we can get these guys and draft a corner early in the draft we are good…as ronde definitely wont be here after this season, and it’s questionable if he even comes back this year…revis might bolt too after a year if we aquire him…leaving us with grimes and a top rookie who hopefully develops for more playing time in year 2…and as said earlier, keep leonard johnson or biggers or both as back ups…and maybe cody grimm can play like he did a couple years back as a backup safety if he is even still in the mix…..if somehow this far fetched senario can come to fruition we are all set…otherwise the team is left blowing in the wind….adam from ny
March 16th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Compared to our current corners, he is the second coming of Deion Sanders.
March 16th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Revis knows that the Bucs have been in 3 days of negotiations. His opinion of the situation, is to state that he would like to play for the Dolphins
1) worst Slap in the face for Bucs that has happened since Parcells pissed on us.
2) we have to question why players don’t want to be here. There must be a reason
March 16th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Capt. Tim, you can command respect, you can earn respect but you cannot demand respect. That’s the problem at The Buc Palace. According to my “tailor”.
March 16th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
lol… Revis will have no problem with Shiano, I am sure coach Wannstadt has spoken to Revis , since he was his coach in college…..some of the non-sense here is comical.
March 16th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
1976buc and his tinker tailor soldier spy.
gee, so an employee is complaining about his boss(es). that is nothing new. they don’t want to be fired but want to spread their hate aonymously…lmao
whatever
March 16th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
🙂
March 16th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
The Tailor says the hold up on Revis is that the Jets want Doug Martin and 2 future picks. Schiano only wants to give 1 :0
March 16th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
^^^^^^^ dont you dare give doug martin away. I dont care if they would give us the whole jets roster. hes way to special.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
If you think about this we will be getting a lot of new players this year compared to last year,clayborne,joseph,CARL NICKS,goldson and DRAFT picks WOW WOW and Im sure a few more we will all be happy soon just wait Buc fans!THATS A LOT OF NEW PRO BOWLERS WE ARE ADDING THIS YEAR!
March 16th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Brent Grimes said this evening that he’s not signing with anybody at this time because he’s not recovered physically yet.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
for anyone who doesn’t think the bucs have a plan. this is a direct quote
Mark Dominick-
“I wouldn’t count us out of anything because I think we want to keep our doors open. But we have a plan, and we’ve been sticking to that plan.”
March 17th, 2013 at 12:04 am
Anybody would say they have a plan. They may, in fact, have 10 plans. We are on about plan #8. One of these plans better happen.
March 17th, 2013 at 12:08 am
Is this not the year that teams are required to spend up to a certain cap percentage? If it is I’m sure the bucs have to bring in more pro bowl talent.
@1976 there is no way the bucs trade Martin for Revis that would be asinine a second year rookie probowler for a player coming off an injury that only has one year left on the contract. Martin will not be traded this year. He alone sells tickets.
March 17th, 2013 at 12:13 am
Agreed, there is no way in Pewter Hell Martin gets traded? They would need to close the Skyway.
March 17th, 2013 at 12:15 am
@ Cmurda
Im sure most of the people on here, like you, believe their is a plan. but I have read plenty of comments from someone people who really didnt believe there was one so I just wanted to set them straight. obviously since I was talking about the plan-less people my post was not direct at you.
March 17th, 2013 at 12:18 am
@ Cmurda
lol ” Pewter Hell “. that was good. I gatta remember that one.
March 17th, 2013 at 12:39 am
Schiano plan for Roy Miller: “He is a heck of a run stopper and plays the position, you know we call the tilt nose in our defense, he plays it very well. And he’s really custom-built to play it,” Schiano said yesterday. “I mean his traits really fit the position.”
There are plans out there,,, most of them smoke screens. Believe 1/2 of what you see and non of what you hear.
March 17th, 2013 at 5:39 am
Talib has elite stuff. I think he had some kind of issue last year, hamstring not sure. But the raw talent is there to be a number one shut down corner, his head just doesn’t allow him to be. I’m not sweating it too much..another failed Gruden/Allen draft. The Buccs are due for some good drafts just by law of probability. they had one last year, but one year isn’t enough to label it a great draft.
March 17th, 2013 at 7:27 am
“Jets want Doug Martin and 2 future pick”
ROFL, yeah right. if Martin was on the table, it’d be Jets give US Revis and a 1st.
March 17th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Joe comparing wanting Talib back to a case of the mumps?
Hardly
Wanting Talib back is Tampa would be more like having a senior pine for another case of the shingles or that of a streetwalker missing a return of the clap; …”I kinda missing having that warm pain upon urination…”
Good riddance to bad rubbage.