Revis Lunacy Heating Up
February 20th, 2013
Look, Joe loves the thought of Jets star cornerback Darrelle Revis wearing pewter and red and making Bill Sheridan and Greg Schiano look like blitz-crazed geniuses next season.
But has the world forgotten that Revis tore his ACL five months ago? It’s starting to seem that way.
New York-based NFL Radio host and NFL.com analyst Adam Schein is the camp that brushes off concern about Revis’ knee. Yesterday for NFL.com, Schein had the nerve to suggest that the Bucs would trade two first-round picks for Revis.
Tampa Bay makes a lot of sense. The Buccaneers have plenty of cap room. Coach Greg Schiano loves Revis’ style. GM Mark Dominik needs a winning season. Revis is very marketable, and there are a ton of New York transplants living in Tampa. That’s important to the Glazer family. Could the Jets get a first-round pick this year and next in exchange for Revis? Tampa would pay him. A win for everyone.
Joe would be nauseous if the Bucs coughed up two first-rounders and gobs of cash for Revis. That’s a massive huge roll of the dice for a team that may not be so close to moving into the NFL’s elite. Joe would give up nothing more than a first round pick, and even that seems like a bit much.
As for Team Glazer desiring to market to “New York transplants,” tbat’s pure nonsense thrown out there by Schein. There’s no evidence of that and it doesn’t make any sense.
What does intrigue Joe is Revis having played under new Bucs special teams coach Dave Wannstedt at Pittsburgh. Wannstedt and Schiano are tight, and Revis might just be the “Buccaneer Man” cornerback in the Schiano mold.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:10 am
If not for the knee, I might do it. With the knee injury there is NO WAY I would pay such a high price for him – both cash and picks. He needs to prove he’s the same player on the field for that kind of haul.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:13 am
No way for 2 1st rounders, 1 first and the cash sure im game!
February 20th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Hey Joe,
Who has the nicest baseball stadium in Tampa? The Yankees!
Like it or not, brethren, there are a ton of transplants, or “snow birds” in FL.
I would be on board for a 1st and a 4th at the most for Revis.
If we could trade our 1st round pick from Revis, and our 3rd round pick for Harvin, then trade up with our 4ths and 2nd to draft the best Ertz or Eiffert for TE, or Xavier Rhodes.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:30 am
They won’t even have to give up a first. The Jets are so cap strapped and first round picks are WAY more valuable these days due to the cheap labor contracts they sign now. A 2nd and a 3rd or something along those lines I think is all they’ll get for Revis unless they trick a dumb team. Any team trading for Revis is on the hook for a monster contract which lessens his value. This all before you even factor in his bum knee. So no two firsts is not even in the relm of realistic.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:34 am
I am far less concerned these days about torn ACL’s. Not everyone will recover like AP, but the treatment and recovery is improving across the board. I have no doubt that Revis will return to form.
That said, 2 first rounders is a steep price. I would gladly give up a first rounder as long as he agreed to an extension — his contract is up after 2013. Otherwise, make a run at him when he hits the FA market.
@SteveK you think the Vikings would give up Harvin for a 3rd?
February 20th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Only if The Rock Star is trying to get himself fired….and go out in a ball of flames (Schein wouldn’t have the balls to make that trade himself….smh)
February 20th, 2013 at 11:39 am
No chance the Bucs give up those picks. I would draft a corner in 2nd or 3rd round then if available late in the draft, take a chance on tyrann mathieu in the 5th. Hes undersized but hes talented and maybe more importantly, he can contribute on special teams. At that point in the draft a guy with off field issues can be worth the risk. Esp when it could fix a major need or two for the bucs.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:42 am
@SteveK – C’mon, it’s a Spring Training facility and nobody shows up there for Tampa Yankees minor league games (single A) even when there’s a big name there on a rehab assignment. … The concept that Jets fans will show up ON A SUNDAY to watch Darrelle Revis over their own team is laughable. And the rest of the “New Yorkers,” aka Giants fans, hate all things Jets.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:43 am
NO NO NO NO NO.
February 20th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Trading a first round pick for a guy who is either hurt or holds out every year is crazy talk. Is he good when he wants to be yes. Is he worth all the risk no way.
February 20th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
If, and only if, Revis would agree to a long term contact ($70M/5 yrs/$40M guaranteed), a second and fourth rounder sounds good.
Really, the only things that the Bucs would be getting for giving up the picks would be exclusive negotiation rights and the 2013 season. That’s why the trade isn’t worth a first rounder. If the Jets are asking two firsts, tell them to pound sand and you’ll go after him next year when he’s a UFA and the Jets 1) can’t franchise him due to his contract and 2) can’t afford him anyway.
February 20th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Any trade involving revis will be contingent on him signing an extension with that new team. That’s something easier said than done when it comes to revis.
February 20th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
Revis > our 1st round plus one 4th round pick.
Harvi> 3rd round pick.
These would be two outstanding trades, and I don’t think we could draft any better than those two guys.
We would have “playoff” aspirations if we had Revis.
How do you slow down: Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, and Cam Newton twice a year? Darrelle Revis. Trade for and pay the man!
February 20th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
No 1st round picks.
February 20th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
The Jets are in a Bind why on earth would we trade a 1st round
To get revis? How about a 2 and 4 then call it a day. If they take it cool if not cool.
February 20th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
No way! No first rounders period. Maybe a 2 and the extra 4th at best and only if he can pass a physical AND a workout! No more busted dudes! Just not worth it to pay someone to ride the bench or end up on IR.
February 20th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Get rid of the UGLY “Pewter Sweat-Stained” pants!!!!
February 20th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
do it.with revis top 8 def .
February 20th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
Revis is the best CB, but not worth one 1st round pick let alone 2. Revis alone could get the Jets to the Superbowl and he won’t get us there also. We don’t need him for that price and who says he doesn’t tear hi ACL again or comes back as the same player. Bucs need to pick up a CB for sure in FA. I like the fact we can get a DRC without giving up 2 1st round picks.
February 20th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Okay heres a thought Eric Wright and Bowers stright up for Revis.. Jets get a starting corner back and bowers a future prospect… Seems like a fair trade to me…
February 20th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
I think we pass on him to much of a risk to much money. We can get two cb in UFA and draft one in the second. And I wouldn’t mind drafting ogletree at 13 he is a game changer.
February 20th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
Trade the New York transplants for Revis straight up. Throw in the New Jersey, Chicago, and Boston transplants to sweeten the pot.
February 20th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
I would be ok with giving up a 1st round pick THIS year, only because in my opinion this isn’t the most talented draft class. This is all predicated on the fact that his knee is going to be fine. I personally know a Dr for the Bucs and he’s great with knee’s. So if the bucs go after him it’s only because they feel his knee can get back to normal. Plus, we all know they’ve been awful at drafting corner back! One more little tidbit, one thing not well known but Freeman had a shoulder injury right about the time he started throwing all those interceptions. Just an FYI for all those doubting him.
February 20th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
I would give up a 1st rnd pick this year, then a 2014 conditional 4th. Which could be bumped to a 3rd.
February 20th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
@ oahubuc: bingo! lol
February 20th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
I brought this trade up about a month ago…
Our 1st and extra 4th, eric wright, and Lagarette Blount for Revis.
It’s the best offer the Jets will get, and they get a talented rb to give them mroe flexibility in the first round.
February 20th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
This could be this dudes 3rd possible hold out. Hell NO..
February 20th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
LUVMYBUCS,
Revis can’t hold out anymore, and if he does he has contract language against it (which would screw him over royally).
Revis would be the best player on our team, the second we would trade for him.
I liken his impact to that of FA Simeon Rice back in the day, GAME CHANGING!
February 20th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Give up this years first round pick and a 4th round. This years draft isnt all that special anyways. Draft a TE or S, (or even Matt Barkley), in the 2nd and then add another CB (Amerson) in the 3rd. Then sign a LB and OT in Free Agency (and/or maybe a Welker)
February 20th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
@SteveK
From a price stand point nowhere close; we got Simeon Rice initially on a one year (1mil) dollar contract. And Revis for the last couple of year has been banged up.
let me summarize
-28yr old(JULY) coming off of ACL
-Asking for QB money
-And we have 2 give up a 1st & a 3rd
HELL NO
February 20th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
We have too many holes to fill to spend that kind of cap space on such a shaky investment (future draft picks, and money) to a guy who just had a major knee operation. Way to many positions to fill before we spend upwards of $15 million for a single player. Revis Island would be cool at Raymond James, but unless Revis can single handedly stop any offense, then he’s to rich for our blood. We could sign Martellus and Michael for that.
February 20th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
You know your assessment is off if you’re agreeing with Adam Schein…
February 20th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Cough up a 2 2’s and a 3.
God knows that Dominik HASN’T DONE A DAMN THING WITH A SECOND ROUND PICK IN HIS ENTIRE TENURE!!!!!!!!
February 20th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
@Adam
LAVONTE DAVID….all is forgiven..lol
February 20th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Revise is a great corner when healthy but coming off knee surgery and a hefty asking price. I would pass. Too many negatives and questions for Dom to pull the trigger on that one.
February 20th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
@LUVMYBUCS… you know who had a good rookie season?
Michael Clayton.
February 20th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
I’m still sick about the 2 first round picks we gave the Jets for Keyshawn Johnson.
February 20th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Hey ScottB… i looked it up. Those picks turned into Shaun Ellis and Anthony Becht. And Becht came to Tampa for a spell so we got some value out of that pick.
Another bit of trivia: the 2 #1’s that went to Oakland for Chucky? One of them was Phillip Buchannon, who came to Tampa Bay for a bit as well. It’s like they were “leased” to the other team.
February 20th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
@Adam-yeah I’m stil pissed we drafted him over Steven Jackson.
@ScottB-Me 2 Bro. Along with trade up for Idrees Kenyatta Walker..SMH
February 20th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I can still hear–Buffalo Bills traded their first-round (No. 14) selection to Tampa Bay for the Buccaneers first- (No. 21) and second-round (No. 51) selections. Tampa Bay selected Kenyatta Walker, OT, Florida State. Buffalo selected Nate Clements, DB, Ohio State and traded No. 51 to Denver.
February 20th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Id give up a 2 and a 4, but thats it!!!!! It is extreamly difficult to pay a CB 15 million per especialy when you are a year away from possibly having to sign freeman to a huge contract
February 20th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
@adam Lavonte David is a 2nd rounder under Doms tenure. And that was just last years buddy.
February 20th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
I’d like to point out the last time the Bucs traded 2 first to the Jets there was a Super Bowl shortly after…
Besides, the Bucs next two #1 draft picks might, might be as a good combined as Revis. The injury is scary, but so what? Roll the dice and take a chance on an elite talent that would automatically improve the whole defense.
February 20th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
Guys the only reason why anyone would give a 1st rounder up for Revis would be all the other Nfl teams out there that want’s there hands on him FIRST! Sure he is a good player, but is going to cost a arm and a leg to get him. Plus we need Buc Men, not I wanna Get Paid Men!
February 20th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Acquiring Revis for the New York transplants doesn’t make sense. The Bucs signed Derrck Ward a couple of years ago and still had blackouts.
February 20th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Trade for Revis. KeepEric Wright. Sign Landry (Safety).
All of a sudden our defensive backfield is rebuit just lke that.
Now what do you trade for him?
2 2nd round draft picks (2013 and 14) on the stipulation that he signs a contract… a sign and trade if you will.
February 20th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Trading high draft picks is what got us into this problem of having no veteran stars on our team. We sold our soul for K. Johnson and Gruden and the last few years we have paid for that void in talent. Losing four 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks is hard to overcome it turns out. I have no desire to go through this nightmare again.
February 20th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Get Revis if we can, with the condition he works out an extension of course
February 20th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
On top of the ACL, he also has had hamstring issues in the past. No thank you. The ACL alone makes the talk of a 1st round pick seem ridiculous to me, and on top of that he wants to be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. With a young defensive roster this just spells disaster when it comes time to lock up our own players.
February 20th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
@jacko101 I am aware… and I made the point that Michael Clayton had a good rookie year, too.
February 21st, 2013 at 1:15 am
Because players don’t heal from injuries nowadays?
Get real, you act like an injury somehow voids the fact that he is a SUPERSTAR
February 21st, 2013 at 2:27 am
@PRBuc
Look at it how ever you want. There aren’t many players beyond the QB position that I would give up a 1st round pick plus some change to get.
On top of the draft picks we need to probably sign him to a 6 year deal worth probably close to $100 million with around $50 million guaranteed. I’m sorry, I’ll pass. He’ll be a free agent in a year, lets figure out what he’s worth at that point.
February 21st, 2013 at 9:21 am
I’ll never understand why someone would want Landry on the Bucs. It will be like have 2 strong safety on the field. Landry is good when playing in the box, but not that good in pass coverage. Jarius Bird on the other hand is a great fit with Mark Barron. He is a real Free Safety and has better field range and will allow Barron to play more in the box.