Reaffirming Christian Ponder Over Josh Freeman
January 31st, 2013
Joe’s always keeps track of what influential national NFL voices are saying about the Bucs. So Joe was eager to hit energetic SiriusXM NFL Radio host Adam Schein, who also is a regular on CBS Sports and was a player for FOX, with a few questions at Super Bowl media day Tuesday. Schein was quick to reaffirm his stance that he prefers Christian Ponder to Josh Freeman, as does Gil Brandt.
JoeBucsFan.com: Your impressions of Greg Schiano’s first year?
Adam Schein: I thought he did a good job. He’s the right guy for the Buccaneers.
Joe: A couple of months ago you said you trusted Christian Ponder more than Josh Freeman, and that was when Freeman was at the height of his season before the Bucs’ collapse. It turned out Freeman vanished in big games and Ponder came up big. What’s your view on them now?
Schein: I think Ponder’s just got a knack. I think Freeman has a lot of potential, but I think that we’ve got to see exactly who Josh Freeman is. I like him with the weapons they have now, with Vincent Jackson and company. Doug Martin takes the pressure off. But we’ll see what he can do. We don’t know.
Joe: Given Tim Brown’s recent allegations that former Raiders head coach Bill Callahan sabotaged the Bucs-Raiders Super Bowl 10 years ago, and Jerry Rice concurred, are you surprised the NFL hasn’t launched an investigation into this, especially considering Jim Harbaugh was an assistant coach on that team?
Schein: There was no sabotage, not at all. All BS.
January 31st, 2013 at 10:39 am
I’d take Freeman over Ponder. Upside for Freeman is huge. I am confused by all the Freeman Haters. I think the only number to focus on his 24… He deserves. I firmly believe a second year with same coaching and leadership will do wonders. I also think the impact of Martin going to the pro bowl and being around winners will be a HUGE upside next year and hopefully rubs off on other members of the team. Bucs will OWN the south next year. I have confidence the team will kick ass again this year in the draft.
Joe your a much better man than I being able to w
January 31st, 2013 at 10:46 am
Joe ahhhhhh Freeman is higher than Ponder on his list as is Locker not sure about the point on this one, Adam Schein ha ha blow horn with minimal football IQ compared to his counter parts on Sirius, Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan are 2 opinions to value unlike Schein….
January 31st, 2013 at 10:53 am
It seems the consensus on Josh Freeman to this point by most people is “I don’t know”. Everyone of them have said he appears to have the intangibles to be very good but they also always admit that Josh’s tenure to this point has had no coaching consistency and is a factor in his slow development.
I agree with that assessment to this point. I think this will be the first year that we will be able to make the best fair evaluation on what to expect from Josh in the future. This is Josh’s make or break season.
January 31st, 2013 at 11:12 am
Potential. You can sum up Freeman with that one word. When you’ve been the starter for a few years and still make the same mistakes, potential is the only compliment people can give you. Especially when first and second year quarterbacks are already showing more than Josh…Before last season everyone on this site said “This is the year Josh really shows us what he’s made of”. So I guess he’s using his mulligan?
January 31st, 2013 at 11:25 am
We’ll see what Ponder can do in his second year. I wouldn’t call 18TD’s and 12INT’s lighting up the league. Throw in the fact that Adrian Peterson accounted for 2100 yards and 13 TD’s! Then the Vikings D also helped out with 48 sacks and 22 turnovers. All the Vikings needed was a game manager and he did well in that roll. Freeman was required to try and out score the Bucs opponents because the D was giving up 25 points a game.
January 31st, 2013 at 11:58 am
annoying speech impediment Schein…is a typical Nerdy sloth with bad sinuses and alergic to EVERYTHING…whose EAR-BENDING voice gives me Ricketts!!!!! (This was meant for satire. Schein is a Public Figure. He looks like he will sue me…see: Todd Schnitt ” M.J. Kelly)
January 31st, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Though I am sure there are CBA regulations stating what players can/cannot due during the off-season…I wonder what Josh Freeman is up to these days.
It would be great if he was at the Superbowl taking in all the festivities and showing him that maybe one day, it will be him in the spotlight during Superbowl week.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:32 pm
I’ll bet he’s back home in Kansas City being praised for his POTENTIAL. Can’t blame those people though. Anyone looks good when you’re a Chiefs fan.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:47 pm
As a Vikings fan with plenty of family and friends in Minnesota, I can tell you that very few up there would complain if they had Freeman over Ponder. Heck, Vikings may have made it to the NFC championship with Freeman as their QB.
January 31st, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Ok this is just silly. Im an avid Freeman basher, but no way would I take ponder over him.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Resume speaks louder than potential.
Thus far, Ponder is the better NFL QB over Freeman.
Freeman has more talent, but he may be more inconsistent than talented.
Freeman put up some decent numbers, but we have not yet made a playoff game.
He is 55+ starts deep, and this will be the year. Either Freeman will play his way into a new contract, just not with the Bucs.
January 31st, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Ponders resume is nowhere near as good as Freemans. Infact the only thing he has on Free is one playoff appearance which he didnt even play in. Im not seeing anything that would put him over Free on any level.
January 31st, 2013 at 7:16 pm
@stevek apparently thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. He talks all this dribble about resumes with no concrete evidence to back it up, especially since Ponder only has only one year under his belt. If we were to extrapolate an evaluation based on one year we could say that Freeman’s 2010 first full year campaign blew Ponder away. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. But hey, haters will say anything to help further their cause, it’s just proves the rest of us are at least smart enough to recognize the difference and make evaluations on the facts.
January 31st, 2013 at 8:17 pm
4everbucsfan,
Ponder took the Vikings to the playoffs.
Freeman folded when we were 6-4 and in the playoff hunt.
Josh Freeman is physically more talented, but Ponder is better at processing the game.
You proved my point, Ponder is less experienced and already a playoff QB.
January 31st, 2013 at 8:22 pm
“Schein: There was no sabotage, not at all. All BS.”
Love it lol, it isn’t going anywhere jajaja
January 31st, 2013 at 9:01 pm
@Stevek
All Ponder did was ride the back of AP and his defense. See Bucnjim’s comment above, he described it perfectly.
January 31st, 2013 at 9:03 pm
@Stevek
In fact, head to head, we kicked their collective asses.
January 31st, 2013 at 11:08 pm
4everbucsfan,
Where did Josh go, when we needed him most, at 6-4 in the playoff hunt?
He folded like a tent.
How can a guy as physically gifted as Freeman be unable to develop in 4 years as starter. He is just as inconsistent as when he took over in late 2009. He is better since then, and he is just as inconsistent if not more.
He can’t look off a DB, process a play quickly enough, audible, or consistently sustain a drive. Our defense blows because our QB is a 3 play driver.
Why can rookies, and second year guys like Dalton, Ponder, Kaepernick lead there teams to the playoffs? Because their better?
Freeman disappears for stretches of games.
January 31st, 2013 at 11:34 pm
stevek would also say Dilfer is better than Marino.
January 31st, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Null and void Ryan. Marino is a “playoff QB”.
Marino was hands down better.
Dilfer couldn’t do it with our defense.
Watch us draft a QB in the 3rd.
February 1st, 2013 at 2:03 pm
As much as I’ve started disliking Freeman, its no contest when it comes between him and Ponder. Give me Freeman all the way. Freeman on his worst day looks as bad as Ponder does on his decent day, so big is the difference. Schien is a dumba$$ that seems to have developed a thing for Ponder.
February 1st, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Negative haha
I’m not saying Free is not better than Ponder
But when bad Free is out there is NONE worse. It’s that bad