Direct Rage At The Pass Rush, Coaching
December 26th, 2012
Former Bucs guard Ian Beckles hears the pitchforks sharpening for Josh Freeman, and Beckles says that’s understandable but somewhat misguided.
Speaking on his morning show on WDAE-AM 620 today, Beckles says the Bucs’ pass rush consistently has been the worst in the NFL this year (30th with 25 sacks) and deserves fans’ ire. Beckles says some of that is coaching but defensive captain Gerald McCoy is the core of the problem.
“McCoy had three good games early and he beat up the Eagles lousy right guard,” Beckles said. “I’m going to have everybody tell me McCoy is good when he only shows up for four weeks? Our leaders have to have attitude. He has to be hitting the quarterback. Our leader has to make plays.”
Beckles said, yes, it matters that McCoy is earning boatload of cash.
On the coaching front, Beckles said Rams linebacker James Laurinaitis’ comments about tells in the Bucs offense is further evidence that the Bucs offense is “vanilla and predictable.” Beckles also went on a rampage about the Bucs passing on 3rd-and-1 Sunday late in the third quarter on the Rams’ 5 yard line and trailing 28-13. And then following that up with a failed quarterback sneak. Beckles says Greg Schiano has no right to call his Bucs a physical smashmouth team, just like Raheem Morris used to claim.
Among other darts tossed around the roster, Beckles claims Dallas Clark has been a bust. “I haven’t seen him catch a pass all year without someone draped all over him. He’s lost a step or two,” Beckles said.
Freeman deserves another season but no fan can claim Freeman is improving, Beckles said.
December 26th, 2012 at 10:54 am
This is the same guy who molested a horse <—– and said that J.J. Watt plays the "same exact position as Gerald McCoy" …..Actually, Watt does NOT play the 3-Technique DT…Watt is a DE (and McCoy NEVER plays DE)
December 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
McCoy is a good DT. Just because you dont hear his name every game does not mean he’s not doing his job. McCoy has never been a sack artist. So why are we harping on the fact he’s not getting many sacks? We just dont have the personnel right now to be get many sacks. We need another DE at least who can rush the passer and another LB that can get after the pass. I was hoping Watson would step up but it’s looking more and more like he’s strictly a special teamer.
December 26th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Very few sacks correlates into the horrific overall pass defense. One would think the best GM in football would recognize that the league, and the NFC South, is chuck full of very good passing attacks.
Perhaps four years into his regime a little better could be expected than 30th in sacks, after spending about a zillion draft choices on D-line?
About 85% of the Josh Freeman ctriticism should be directed to the man who built this mess of a team.
December 26th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Agreed coaching and Defense needs to get better that is for certain. Sheridan is clueless and Sullivan needs to learn to call a better game. Not sure how you can have the worst pass defense in the history of the NFL and expect to keep your job, I don’t care who is in your defensive backfield. We need a defensive genius crafting our defense (Monte Kiffin, Dick Labeu, Dom Capers, Zimmer etc.) not someone who was run out of New York on a rail after his defense with more talent than ours was lit up like a Christmas tree for half a season.
As far as offense goes. The first series was really good we had the St. Louis defense guessing we moved right down the field. Then it all went lame. Now some could be on the Offensive Coordinator, some the QB and some the Offensive Line. It is funny we have been steadily declining since we lost Carl Nicks, I think with Nicks and Davin Joseph back we should be in a little better shape from an in your face pressure standpoint. Also Demar Dotson was playing well early and now has fallen apart as has Penn, really Penn is more suited at Right Tackle, we need a Left Tackle.
Unfortunately, Left Tackles don’t grow on trees and are a highly sought after commodity. We have other more pressing needs, corners, big tight end and a slot receiver. Also a pass rusher or two would be nice and yes perhaps a backup QB as competition or grooming for the position.
December 26th, 2012 at 11:16 am
YES, The Bucs problems are bigger than just JF BUT the defense and the coaching has nothing to do with how bad of a QB JF is {decision making and accuracy are beyond Putrid}…. His over throwing of OPEN receivers, under throwing receivers, inability to throw a 3 yard dump pass to an open receiver consistently are HORRIBLE…
I truly believe strongly that only the Bucs would give this guy yet another season to further destroy this team and fan base… 55 games and VERY little to no improvement…. How many respectable businesses would keep employees and pay them so well for NOT being successful or productive…
I see good ole JF as more of a David Carr, Byron Leftwich, Jason Campbell type…. Once starters who proved to be nothing more than backup quality at best!
Bring on the NEXT QB!
December 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Ok, lets say we dump Josh. Anybody have any confidence that Mr. Dominik can find a replacement for him to bring us to the promise land?
And shore up the rest of the team at the same time? After the dismal/putrid football we have witnessed?
Just not seeing it.
December 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
@Silence the Critics – agreed McCoy is a good Defensive Tackle stats bear that out (hurries, sacks, tackles etc.) as well as the view of experts around the league. Most see him as Pro-Bowl caliber especially this year.
The problem is there is not much elite talent around him. Wilson cannot rush the passer, Bennett is good but inconsistent, and Bowers is on the mend and inconsistent. Perhaps next year when Claiborne gets back we will have a better pass rush. Also a new defensive coordinator wouldn’t hurt. Come on if NFL records are set against you on your watch, should you loose your job ?? Look what he did in New York they ran him out after a year.
Our defense needs a huge upgrade think of it really the only good players on the defensive side of the ball are McCoy, Bennett, David, Barron (coverage needs to improve), Barber may retire but is definitely a pro-bowl corner according to stats as well as experts. The rest of the Defense is average at best (that is being kind too).
December 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
The problem is the GM takes a lot of input from scouts and coaches, so part of the bad drafts in the past could be attributed to Radio Raheem. This draft was really good I think, we got 3 impact players who immediately started and are playing well. Martin, Barron (not in coverage but getting better), David. Also he got VJax and Carl Nicks, Wright was a mistake. I never understood why we didn’t go after Finnegan or Carr. This year the corner market in free agency is not as good. The only stud is the oft-injured Grimes, the rest are an upgrade from Wright at least.
Also getting a 4th rounder for Talib is a steal. LOL – that guy is a time-bomb who knows the next time he will explode he may do a lot worse than pistol whip a pedophile (which I actually saw as one of his more respectable moves). Isn’t his Mom is in jail ?? That should mean one of the bad influences are gone from his life at least until she is paroled or something.
December 26th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Ramdog
The players you mention are good pick ups. Obviously Jackson was a heck of a move.
But at some point you have to judge a GM by what kind of TEAM he puts on the field, measured by won/loss, playoffs, etc.
Lots of talent around the league. The lions, for example. Chuck full of talent, still stay at the bottom.
We always seem to have fatal weaknesses, whether pass rush, rush defense, cant run it, whatever. And the fatal weakneses are always epic – NFL records in futility type weaknesses. Like the most points in team history last year… record ineptitude in pass defense this year, 30th in sacks. The list goes on and on! Not to mention the prolonged losing streaks! Freakin embarrassing losing streaks!
I cant figure out why this guy is held in such high esteem by some. Seems to be teflon.
December 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Is it the 5th year into this rebuild yet? Oh right, they have the formality of actually losing the last game. If all the cards fall just right, they get the 6th overall pick, if they screw it up, the 16th.
I would suggest benching McCoy and Freeman but that would add to the chances of them actually winning the last game.
Next year, we may have a new phenomena, fans arriving jammed into small cars dressed in outlandish clothes, gigantic shoes, rainbow colored fright wigs, clown makeup and red noses all rooting for the visiting team. Hoping that the Bucs extend the losing streak all the way to the end and the #1 overall pick in the 2014 draft.
December 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
@Eric
“Teflon Dom?”
December 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@Ramdog
“agreed McCoy is a good Defensive Tackle stats bear that out (hurries, sacks, tackles etc.) as well as the view of experts around the league. Most see him as Pro-Bowl caliber especially this year.”
Ramdog, you have lost all credibility.
In 15 games, he has 15 tackles, 5 assists and 5 sacks, 2 passes defensed, and one fumble recovery*.
Experts around the league are the only ones who remember his name and draft day hug. To the people who actually vote for the Pro Bowl, he’s an ineffective joke and the stats bear that out.
*Buccaneer.com
December 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
It’s not often I agree with Beckles. I said when McCoy was drafted he wouldn’t live up ot his draft status (on draftcountdown forum under brasho) and he hasn’t, plain and simple. He’s had 9 sacks in his career, 6 of which he got in 3 games. Upgrading the pass rush and the defensive coordinator should be the top two priorities in the offseason. Selecting a DT that can push and start along side McCoy (Sheldon Richardson anyone?) might be a wise idea… though drafting a Von Miller-type Sam LB on running downs and pass rushing DE on passing downs (like Oregon’s Dion Jordan) could be a nice possibility as well.
Anybody can point to the other ineffective members of the DL and say it is not McCoy’s fault, but it is. Bennett HAS been inconsistent as has McCoy… McCoy HAS played the run well, but he’s paid too handsomely to be a run stopping DT. He is supposed to be a difference maker on both fronts.
The offensive playcalling and game strategies have been a major pitfall for the Bucs as well. Absolutely dreadful to say the least.
Dallas Clark is terrible, his poor play and inability or unwillingness to come back to the ball has cost us three INTs (he drifted against Carolina on the pick 6, he lost the ball in the lights two weeks ago, and then last week). He is a liability as a blocker and can’t be counted on as a receiver. That being said he has been a slight upgrade over K2.
I don’t agree with what Beckles says often, but he’s saying the same exact thing I’ve been banging my drum over for the past few months.
Again, Sheridan must go… Ron Meeks will be available, as is Monte Kiffin, and likely Rod Marinelli. All three of those men would be huge upgrades over Sheridan.
December 26th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
@Miguelito – the fact I lost credibility with you is like a stamp of approval in fact I may put that at the bottom of my signature.
Anyhow if I am such a moron how come Profootball Focus, you should read that or something sometime Joe does. They have picked him as a pro-bowler ??
How come he is second in the NFL among Defensive Tackles in what all experts including Monte Kiffin see as the most important statistic Hurries. He has more than Suh, Farley, Wilfork and everyone else in the league except Geno Atkins who is a beast.
How come our defense went from last in yard per attempt last year to first ?? Oh how come he is almost always double teamed. It is because he sucks right ?? He sucks so bad opposing teams put two guys on him. LOL – good one.
You are funny Miguelito you should do stand-up but one thing is for certain you need to get a few more facts before you say people loose credibility. Also if you know anything about football you would realize Tackle doesn’t get a lot of flashy stats in fact 5 sacks ties him for 6th in the NFL which I don’t know I think is pretty good.
Oh one other thing the highest amount of tackles any tackle has is the greatness that is Jurrell Casey for Tennessee with 38 but he has only 2 sacks. Geno Atkins arguably the best tackle in the NFL presently has 16 sacks, 29 tackles, and 46 hurries playing on a very good D-Line in Cincy. McCoy has 16 tackles, 5 sacks and 33 hurries, Suh has 21 tackles 7 sacks and 28 hurries playing next to Nick Fairley. I guess Suh sucks too. He plays next to someone who is light years ahead of Roy Miller but can only muster those stats. LOL.
I am curious what would make McCoy a good tackle in your mind ??? The second ranked sack leader amongst tackles presently has are you ready 8 sacks. He must suck too.
December 26th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
When was the last time the bucs defense made a play to secure the game, I believe it was Quincy Black’s int against Drew Brees two years ago. No playmakers on D, a sack, int, force fumble, I would even take a three and out when the game is on the line. I’m a fan of McCoy, but he is not a playmaker. I do believe Levonte David will become that guy but its starts with def. line pressure.
December 26th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
The last time i watched the Bucs play McCoy didn’t throw 4 picks. I guess McCoy needs to start creating fumbles to match Freemans picks. The d-line could use some improvement. Let’s not forget the Freeman hurry up offense-hurry up throw a pick, over throw receivers and sit back down on the bench.
December 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
@Ramdog
Did you ever hear the term, “Little lies, big lies and statistics.” Hurries is such a subjective statistic that it isn’t even listed on reputable sites like Buccaneers.com. It’s more of a statistic created by agents who have no other thing to hang their hat on. Maybe, you should promote your hero with the perfect attendance stat for this year.
Bad news guys, something very wicked this way comes. I’ve been warned by a Detroit gang or group calling themselves “Juggalos” to cease and desist all talk of acquiring Jadeveon Clowney in the 2014 draft.
They have thrown down the gauntlet. Seems they feel JC has been promised to them in the Bible prophecy as the Detroit Lion’s messiah.
These guys are serious and frankly I’m scared.
Maybe, SacBucs can help me. They are flashing the W sign with the left hand and the C sign, with arms crossed over and threatening me with “Faygo.”
The big clown looks a lot like Ndamukong Suh.
December 26th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@Miguelito still not seeing your point. Nor do I understand why you keep quoting Mark Twain (that is who said that in case you didn’t know), which is my guess. That must be something your high school English or Math teacher said. I am supposed to use what to argue my points if not statistics. LOL. What does Huck Finn say about my argument ?? If Profootball focus is not reputable what is ?? Why does Joe use it ?? Would you like a Mark Twain quote or two to prove my point ?? LOL.
You’re one of those people who are never wrong no matter how many facts I put in front them. I have met lots of them and I choose not argue with people who ignore facts/statistics.
December 26th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Finnigan was our first option and at last moment decided to go with Fisher because of fisher not because of our lack of an offer.
December 27th, 2012 at 8:55 am
@Miguelito – McCoy only BUC to make the pro-bowl I guess the NFL players and people who actually play the game and prep for it didn’t read this site and see the genius that is Miguel.
Signature – Miguel said Ramdog lost credibility because he called McCoy good 2 days later he is named to the Pro-Bowl by his peers.