Bucs “A Little Short On Talent”
October 10th, 2012
Joe never bought into the line of thinking that the Bucs were woefully short on talent in 2011, and Joe surely believes the Bucs have a wealth of talent in 2012.
Jimminy Christmas! The Bucs are BIG cash spenders on salary in the NFL this season, sitting near the top of the charts. Rockstar general manager Mark Dominik would be doing a terrible job if the Bucs were lacking talent yet spending big bucks.
But it seems Bucs icon John Lynch thinks the Bucs need more quality in their lineup. He ranked the Bucs as the 24th-best team in the NFL for the Associated Press, and Lynch claims Tampa Bay is falling short in the talent department.
John Lynch (Fox Sports, 24) – We have learned that the Greg Schiano-led Bucs will fight until the end. They are just a little short on talent and depth right now.
Joe agrees that the Bucs’ depth is suspect in multiple areas, though that’s an issue for most NFL teams.
But the talent is there, enough to win a bunch more games this season. The leader of the New Schiano Order needs to maximize it and find ways to close out games.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:30 am
he means jfro and talib……just didn’t want to call them out.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:47 am
It is becoming time to evaluate the draft of Josh Freeman. Beginning to look like a bust!
October 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
The lack of depth is what really startles me. Like the article points out, we’re near the top in salary cap yet we’ve got no depth to show for it, and our starters are not the most talented bunch. And we’ve got a few decent players in contract years… I’m not down on the future of the Bucs, but it’s looking a little grim
October 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Lack of depth and lack of talent.
Can’t agree with the Stanford Alum and HOF safety John Lynch more.
We have very limited depth, as proven by our 3 DE’s on the roster, and our talent is a question mark.
Freeman: is he even a game manager?
Quincy Black lacks talent, but does not lack the pay.
We have probably the 24th most talented team in the NFL.
Look at the Texans, they have talent oozing.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Finally, and I mean Finally, our ownership has spent money on the players. It has been 8-9 long years since we have fiscally fielded a contender.
I question the man writing the contracts? How is his eye for talent? Has he paid the right players?
October 10th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Brian Price, DaQuan Bowers, Arrelious Benn, Myron Lewis, Dexter Jackson, Quincy Black, Mike Nugent, Derrick Ward, and Albert Haynesworth have all shown low talent, high monetary values.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
We have plenty of talented players..I think he might mean coaching staff and depth..Seriously, we have Vjax and we use him like a grandpa’s prized Corvette only once or twice a game. We dont run Blount and have 4? tight ends on the roster. Dallas Clark, Regus Benn, Mike Williams..I’m sorry, all of those guys can ball. Its sad to say but Rah and Olsen were better game planners. they obviously just sucked at holding a team together and public speaking..
October 10th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
So far the “bunch of talent” has managed to lose 13 out of last 14.
That’s also known as 1 dash 13.
Hope the unleashing happens pretty soon.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Mark Dominik HAS to go! We have yet to produce a Pro Bowl player in his ENTIRE time as a GM, but for Joseph, which was a borderline Pro Bowl player, at best. His drafts and contracts have been HORRIFIC! Miss after miss after miss after miss. Dominik is just as bad as a GM as Rah was as a HC.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
“John Lynch (Fox Sports, 24) – We have learned that the Greg Schiano-led Bucs will fight until the end. They are just a little short on talent and depth right now.”
This is a typical statement for Lynch who lacks a little character and conviction. He’s trading access to the Buccaneer Palace in exchange for truth. He is also feeding his own ego as a former Buccaneer, who in his eyes, no team is ever going to be better than the 2002 version.
The Bucs are 4 years into this rebuild and talent wise they are up close to the best Buc teams ever especially after opening the Glazer checkbook this year.
The problem is that they brought in a coach who has been a veritable punching bag in the Big Least for the last 11 years with a 28-48 conference record. The more opponents faced him, the easier he was to beat. The Little General BS’ed his way into being the highest paid public employee in NJ history without ever winning the weak sister conference that Rutgers was in.
Familiarity breeds contempt, and Schiano is so hardheaded and stubborn that he is incapable of change. Therefore the NFC South will kick the Bucs’s butts consistently.
When the Big Least played him, they only faced him once a year, the NFC South will be 6 losses built into the schedule every year. Which means they’ll have to win
October 10th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
(cont)
10 games out of 10 out of conference to make the playoffs. Those 10 teams unfortunately have competent professional coaching and scouting unlike some of Rutger’s lesser opponents.
Some might say that he is actually 1-0 in the NFC South, but that was an anomaly, he caught Carolina by surprise with his obsessive secrecy. They won’t win another conference game.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I agree on the depth as well but I don’t agree that we are short on starting talent. I think our starting wideouts, o line, and rb’s are really solid at least. Now of course Joeseph going down hurt but the only issues I see offensively are QB and TE. Defensively, with all the injuries on the line we are hurting there, Black is the weak link at linebacker but I think he is serviceable. And as crazy as it sounds, I actually LIKE our secondary. As much as it pains me to say it Ronde is probably the weak link but he still has some game in him. I think the pass d is struggling due to Blitzn Bill’s poor performance as D coordinator. He doesn’t help the secondary at all by calling repeated safety and cornerback blitzes specifically when the opposing offense is in two minute mode.
I like our talent and think our struggles are more of a case of a square peg round hole coaching philosophy, poor defensive play calling and a QB who is performing poorly either because he is just not an NFL starter or because he doesn’t feel comfortable with the style of offense we are running. But overall good starting talent.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Geez. Second thread I’ve commented on in a row that I somewhat agreed with Miguel. I don’t hate Schaino at all but I think so far, his philosophy isn’t made for this team. But watching the Washington game it was obvious tha there is already a shift offensive philosophy wise so I am still optimistic about Schiano and I don’t think he’s as stubborn as reports have said.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
We have a lack of talent on the oline when considering injuries… so depth. Good teams have depth along the line… yet we got Harden.
Our QB is proving without a shadow of a doubt to be a bust. He reminds me of Big Bird now.
Our defense is razor thin al except for CB… unless you recalibrate expectations for Talib, Barber and Myron Lewis based on overall performance. They all give up some big killer plays.
The coaching is fine… except for not using Blount, running on every first down and of course the retarded kneel down defense being more formidable than the goal line stance.
Mark Dominic is a proven goof by now when considering Brian Price, drafting 2 physically altered DEs, drafting punters, TEs and HBS only to cut them later because we have no room on the roster for them. Dungy did a little better with drafts because he drafted safeties and CBs in the late rounds… you know, guys who can actually make the team.
October 10th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Que bueno, Miguel! I hope the Bucs can turn things around as well as you have with your recent lucid, well-reasoned posts. I too think Lynch holds a bit of a grudge with the Bucs for how he was let go(understandably so) and let’s the Bucs have it with veiled comments. I will always appreciate what he brought to the Buc’s glory years of ’97-’02 however.
October 10th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Let’s remember that Rutgers pre-Schiano was the worst college football program in Divison One.
The worst.
Maybe Schiano’s record in the conference wasn’t the greatest, but he had some winning years and brought in some great talent.
Back to the NFL; The Bucs are thin on the defensive line, and it’s fair to question some of Mark Dominik’s free agent signings and draft picks, but let’s get through this season before we start throwing dirt on the Greg Schiano era. I think a bounce back win against Kansas City and a strong showing against the Saints will be telling. This team can’t afford to lose at home to Kansas City, bottomline.
October 10th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Schiano is already getting more out of the defense than Raheem could ever dream of.
October 10th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
sadly, i feel like since derrick brooks’ decline a couple years before he was cut, we have lacked a top 5 or 10 talent at any position besides perhaps Guard. only the bucs, browns, and maybe a couple other franchises can say that. we have a couple guys flashing all-pro ability now, and by this time next year, we will know just how much the previous coaching staff held back the talent on this team…..i see a couple potential all-pros on defense, but i just don’t see anybody on offense who could rise to that level besides nicks and the injured Joseph
October 10th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Lack of talent and depth, lays solely on the GM.
October 10th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Lack of Talented Depth.
We have a hard time just trying to get talent on the field at all 11 spots in every phase of the game.
The rebuild that will never end. The Bucs need to hire the Rays front office for the offseason. They can run a squad on a budget, and they have a great eye for talent.
The true “Rock Star” GM, Andrew Friedman.
October 10th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Has Miguel escaped the mothership or just back on meds?
Will the Bucs talent continue to improve and hold onto game leads and pull out more wins or?
Is Josh Freeman a bust or just an average QB lost in a new scheme?
Inquiring minds want to know!
October 10th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Agree with OAR,
Is Freeman a bust? Average? slightly better than average?
Was Freeman just a product of a good WR to throw to (Jordy Nelson)?
October 10th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Perhaps they can all play the Ukulele…………..
October 10th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
I think we actually have some pretty good talent in Tampa. We have a pretty decent amount of players that are quality starters in the NFL. However, one thing we lack is a true superstar type player. We don’t really have anyone that teams are scared to death of, and must gameplan around. GMC probably has the greatest potential to be that type player, but he’s not there yet. We just don’t have any elite talent, which hurts us with the game on the line, because elite players make the big plays at crunch time. Also, until our QB plays well consistently, we will always struggle to win games.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
There is nothing wrong with Lynch opinion. He’s a analyst and that’s his professional observation.