The Yahoo Hit Piece On Greg Schiano
September 21st, 2012
Where does Joe start with the hit piece Yahoo! Sports NFL writer Michael Silver fired at Greg Schiano today?
You can click above to read it, but essentially Silver makes a case with a pile of anonymous sources that Schiano wasn’t accommodating to NFL scouts at Rutgers, had the nerve to be unfriendly, and now Schiano has expanded the widespread dislike of himself in NFL circles after daring to break tradition on the Giants’ kneel-down Sunday.
Hmmm, funny how none of this surfaced until now and how none of these stand-up NFL executives, guys who surely would never work with Schiano, are too afraid of attaching their names to their hate.
Joe’s going to speak for Schiano here and say that the head coach couldn’t give a crap about these soft-bellied yes-men who don’t like him.
And why should he? Schiano plays by his core beliefs, and if those include a controlling, unfriendly leadership style, then so be it. This is pro football, not freakin’ middle school.
Schiano would be the first to tell you he’s disinterested in popularity contests. Remember, this is the same man who took over the Rutgers head coaching job, arguably the worst program in the country, when he had other jobs available or could have returned to the NFL as an assistant.
Second, Joe must comment on one quote in the story specifically:
“[Schiano] tried so hard to be a hard ass and went out of his way to be rude. When you’d pass him in the hallway, you might say, ‘Good morning,’ and he’d look at you like you’re a [expletive] idiot. A guy like him doesn’t realize that probably half of us played the game at a really high level – it’s completely condescending. He would go out of his way to make you feel as uncomfortable as he could.”
Frankly, this is more a cultural New Jersey thing than anything else. Joe (this Joe anyway) grew up a handful of small towns away from Schiano and can attest that to this day, if you say “good morning” to someone out in public there (including store cashiers) most of the time they will look at you like you’re a “[expletive] idiot,” as referenced in the quote.
Is this a good thing? No. But it’s definitely part of the culture, and surely locals don’t walk around crying and holding grudges because a friendly hello was ignored.
Joe doubts Schiano was going out of his way to make people feel uncomfortable at Rutgers. He likely was just being himself. And there’s a distinct difference there.
Silver wants us desperately to believe Schiano is a bully, rather than a team-first guy driven to win games his way and completely disinterested in investing time in anything unrelated to his football team.
Joe can only assume Schiano didn’t respond the last time Silver greeted him.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
@ Joebucsfan
YOUR AUTO-PLAYING VIDEO ADVERTISEMENTS ARE REALLY ANNOYING!!! I REFUSE TO LOAD YOUR PAGE ON MY SMART PHONE ANYMORE!! DO THEY PAY THAT GOOD?!?!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@MikeNice — Joe appreciates your feedback. Sorry you’re annoyed. Joe’s experimenting with a new national ad feed for the past eight days. Joe’s monitoring the situation but does not have control over those individual ads. You can always shut them off or mute them for now.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@Joebucsfan
I agree with you on the “Good Morning” comment. If you in any state above Delaware you don’t say “Good Morning” to random people, because they will look at you like you have three heads. The southern U.S. is too friendly.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Joe, the Bucs are getting attention and the rest of the league is afraid. Their play has changed and it is no longer a sure win to play them nor is your team not going to feel it for the next game.
Crap sells that is why there is so much of it floating around, please keep flushing it.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@Joebucsfan
I understand, it’s a business. It’s just a bit pesty to shut them off on my smart phone, damn droid, maybe I should go iPhone. Thanks for the consideration. And I was bluffing, Bucs news it too important not to load your page whether I’m at home or on my cell!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@mike find an ad blocker. You may have to root your phone to do this but if you get an iPhone you may not be able to view the videos at all.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
What ridiculous media nonsense. All because Tom Coughlin had a hissy-fit. Ask Eric LeGrand if Greg Schiano is a heartless asshole… this Silver guy doesn’t deserve his job.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
To all of Mr. Coach Gregg Schiano haters ; This is a no-nonsense guy, he is a team guy, a football guy, and he is not here for any beauty contest, if you guys want a lovable guy or a drama queen, go to New York, you sure can find a couple up there. He’s all about football and winning games, we like him down here and that’s all that matter to us, the Buccaneers Nation!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Do you hear that noise? That’s Miguel Grande running to his little keyboard! Hopefully he didn’t dislocate a hip on his way.
I find it pretty amazing that despite everyone hating Schiano as Silver claims, Rutgers banged out a huge number on NFL players, especially for a school like Rutgers. Funny how coaches around the NFL have been saying that players from Rutgers are NFL-ready. But like Joe said, it’s crazy that Silver sat on this story for 9 months, then waited until the kneel down thing started to lose some steam. I wonder where he stood on the issue?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Anyone who refers to Coughlin as the God Father is obviously not biased in anyway….Also, why is every source unnamed?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
I have drunk the Schiano KoolAid as much as anybody, but I have to say that this article does give me some concern. We don’t know how much of it is true, nor will we know for quite some time if it, to whatever extent it is true, actually hinders his ability to develop players, coaches, personnel people… and to win games. We’ll see,
September 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Psshhh! What a bunch of whiny little b&%$#$!!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
This is getting ridiculous. All because of a late 4th quarter kneel down play. Funny thing though… in last night’s Panthers/Giants game, the Giants were up by a good score in the 4th quarter… and what do you think they did to keep Eli from getting hurt? Yeah, that’s right, they put in the backup QB. If the Giants had the ball and the lead against the Bucs (which they did), they had the choice of avoiding injury to Eli and putting Carr in the game to take the kneel down. So, Coughlin is an IDIOT for worrying about injury to his players when he still has his starters in the game with seconds on the clock and the lead. If you’re backup fumbles the snap because you put him in to kneel down, at least your starter isn’t hurt… WTF… play like a man, or get the heck out of the game.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Hey Joe.
Headed to Dallas this weekend from Vegas to watch my Virginia Cavaliers play TCU and my Bucs play the dirty Cowgirls- any chance you’re rolling through?
Also, have to agree with MikeNice- those adds are terribly annoying and what makes it worst is I cant find them to even pause to silent them. COME ON JOE! and the gambling one is also miserable.
-WadeVegas
September 21st, 2012 at 6:17 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–greg-schiano-sends-message-that-his-buccaneers-aren-t-backing-down-to-anyone.html
This article is better! And at the end there’s this quote:
“Greg Schiano was hired to change the entire culture of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. If he’s going to fail at that, it won’t be from nicely backing down from anyone, at any time.”
September 21st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
LOL….. Shiano has coached 2 games…..good grief !
September 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I second MikeNice – I’ve stopped coming by very often because I can’t tolerate the video advertisements – especially the political ones.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
At least no one is complaining that the media isn’t talking about us. Problem fixed.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
“I have drunk the Schiano KoolAid as much as anybody, but I have to say that this article does give me some concern. We don’t know how much of it is true, nor will we know for quite some time if it, to whatever extent it is true, actually hinders his ability to develop players, coaches, personnel people… and to win games. We’ll see,”
George, this is precisely Mr. Silver’s objective.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Silver has an agenda! Isn’t he also broke the Miami story.
Who cares if he says hello/good morning! Go Bucs!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I agree MikeNice, its getting out of hand, not to mention over 50% of the site is now covered in these disgusting ads….
September 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
George says: we will never know actually if this hinders his ability to develop players, coaches, personnel people… and to win games.
Please George, be for real, all that time in Rutgers and it never did, why it should now, hellooooo!!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
If any scouts from other NFL teams come into One Buc Place, at least we know Schiano won’t take care of them or say hello to them in the hallway.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
The video ads are very annoying. I like that our coach is somewhat disliked for being a bully. I also think the guy who wrote the article is full of it. I am happy with the direction the bucs are going and hope they can get a win against the Cowboys.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Say whatever you want about his ability to transform the Rutgers program — the NFL is a different league. I just hope the rumors of the contempt he has allegedly accumulated among NFL personnel people isn’t true. I just don’t think you can win in the NFL without building relationships. I’m still a supporter and a believer, but I’m beginning to feel like this whole Schiano thing is a bit like a cult. I hope that the negativity is groundless.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
“I just don’t think you can win in the NFL without building relationships.”
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There’s this guy who coaches in New England that would probably disagree.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Italian guys from Jersey don’t give a f*** what you think of them… but you WILL respect them. Just ask Tony, Paulie, and Silvio.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
George….are you older than 18??? For crying out loud dude…..get a clue.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
This team has gotten tons of free publicity this week. BSPN hasn’t given us this much attention since Dungy was fired and we won the superbowl.
Article says:
“If Schiano’s approach is patterned after that of Belichick, a control freak who makes a point of restricting the flow of information and doesn’t seem to care about how he is perceived by outsiders, the front-office officials to whom I spoke believe there is a key distinction he should consider.
In the AFC personnel executive’s words, “To me there is a respect level and a pecking order. When you’re Bill Belichick, you can get away with a lot more than when you’re a rookie head coach and haven’t earned the right to do things. There is a rite of passage.”
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Frankly, so long as our guys are only known for aggression on the field of play, I like it. If other teams don’t want to be bullied, they should crawl in their lockers and wait for us to leave town.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
George…it won’t matter at all. Bill Belichick likes him so much that he had a joint practice with the Bucs. Drew Brees of the Saints (our division rival) has been mentoring several of our players…and doing a great job of it.
Schiano is more like Bill Belichick than any of the actual coaches that Bill Belichick has grown.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
“Kenny Phillips fined $30,000 for hit on Vincent Jackson” Got the name wrong and the ammount, but I called it 20 seconds after the non call, that I believed was a pivotal play in the game!!
September 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Hey Bobby, yeah, I’m a bit older than 18… Your insult says more about you than it does me. So, you’re welcome.
I find it hilarious how merely questioning… questioning… whether any of the information in Silver’s article may be true has generated hostile and insulting responses. The collective IQ on this board must be about 12.
And yes, I do think that developing relationships and garnering respect among your peers and potential employees or business partners is important. Belicheck has that respect. It’s an open question whether Schiano has the ability to develop that over time with other people around the league. I believe he does, but I’m not 100% convinced of it.
Jeez, and I thought I had drunk the KoolAid. Some of you guys are complete assholes.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
“I am happy with the direction the bucs are going and hope they can get a win against the Cowboys.”
They will surely win if there is no 2nd half. Maybe WW111 will break out Sunday instead of Tuesday as scheduled.
Who would of guessed that the Little General is a notorious asshole?
September 21st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Who cares what a bunch of college recruiting scouts think??? Let’s talk about how the team is performing vice annonymous sources who don’t want to put their name on their comments. Weak reporting at best.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
TL:DR/ Cool story bro.
Yahoo Sports is written by and for women who respond to things like whose feelings were hurt by a big meanie and who is dating who or has a new haircut. Not clicking.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
As long as he puts W’s in the win column, the fact that he MAY be rude doesn’t bother me in the least. Parcells, Cowher, Belichick and a bunch of other successful coaches weren’t known for their congeniality. Just win football games.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
This is nothing but media hype. Media loves to dictate how people are ‘supposed” to think.
ESPN had a poll on the website with “who was in the right: Schiano or Coughlin”. The poll showed almost 70% in favor of Schiano. When the poll was later featured on ESPNHD, the poll showed Coughlin being the favored choice with almost 70%. They simply switched the poll results for the TV audience to change what the apparent public perception was.
Typical disgusting, disingenuous, and dishonest media tactics on display over what amounts to absolutely nothing. If not for media, this is a non-issue.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:41 pm
@Have a nice day
Very perceptive of you. I was once involved in politics and came to the same conclusion.
I just added this little factoid because Hawaiian keeps a dossier on me and it makes his head spin every time I give him a tiny glimpse of my “interesting” life.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Is Silver a writer for a sports page? Or TMZ? He called the victory formation blow up “insolence” – Silvers word, not an anonymous source. Makes you think there’s a bit of personal vendetta here. What a bunch of whiny garbage.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
@Miguel Haha – That just maybe. You guys do seem to have a very special relationship.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Hawaiian is quite modest himself, but he was quite accomplished as an athlete in the Special Olympics.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Having walked the fair streets of the Big Apple with Joe, I can tell you for a FACT that he was appalled that I kept saying hello to people…”Smitty, stop that! You could be KILLED!”
And I was like…”Dude, if they kill ME, no other tourists will come here!”
So I trust Joe to be accurate about the Schiano hallway snub.
No one tried to kill me, but very few of the locals said hello, or even made eye contact. It was a GREAT day.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Schiano for President. We need him to solve some of our foreign policy issues.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Just a pathetic weasel sucking up to the all powerful NY media in typical pathetic weasel fashion .
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 am
@ George,
LMFAO
Your response was epic. It was like Will Ferrell debating the “Ragin Cajun”, James Carville, in “Old School”.
Also, helluva point. 1st friggin amendment Bobbo, please quit responding with crappy insults to bolster your opinion. Me thinks your opinion makes like a Co-Ed in a Ben Roethlisberger in a VIP room.
Remember to wear your helmet when you blog and you bike. Safety first.
Go Bucs!
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 am
@Miguel,
I remember those Special Olympics days! Good times. I really do miss your daughters. They were always more than just Special Olympics groupies to me.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 am
This politically correct crap is what’s wrong with this country. Just look what is happening around the world right now.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
Why wasn’t this type of article ever written about John Gruden? Yo”u could add, Dick Vermeil, Mike Ditka, Don Shula, Bill Parcell’s name to this article and no one would pay any attention to it. The article makes no sense. All coaches have a semblance of “my way or the highway” mentality. I would use this article to wipe my ass, that’s about it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 am
a) you are not hard cause you are from Jersey. If you cant even say good morning back to someone, you are a tool.
b) i did not realize this league was full of females crying about work
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Some people call it being being an a$$hole…I call it being a leader with direction. Do you think there is any question within that locker room as to the direction this organization is headed? Get on the train or get the hell off, because we are going places whether you like it or not.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Man, I must be a 12 yr old at heart because I agree with so much that is written above.
I am also digging on the free press for Coach. The more he wins, the more they’ll hate, yet keep talking about him. This is a big game against the Cowgirls and if they bust out a win, physically, the press will keep rolling.
One thing is for sure though. When you kill them all (win) it doesn’t matter what they think of you during the process, because they’re all dead (beaten).
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:43 am
joe nothing against you but thats why i hate people from new jersey. they look at you like an idiot for saying good morning? what kind of backward must up sh@t is that. i think it would be great if we all followed what the south park episode did and just wipe them all off the face of the planet. I mean what is it? do they think there better than everyone else because their form Jersey? hrrrr. pisses me off. people from New York and New Jersey= IDIOTS.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
you now that idiots is probably the wrong word. there assh@ls because they like to sh*t all over everybody. there thats better.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Andrew you’re an idiot did you Know that? That is the proper way to spell. If you’re going to insult anyone at least make sure you’re not making 3rd grade spelling mistakes.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
I must say I agree with what I think Andrew was trying to say. It was a little hard to proofread though.
Anyways, Schiano is our Jersey A hole and I don’t really care what others have to say about him.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Hey now not every NY’er is an asshole LOL Schiano is bringing a little bit of that metro NY/NJ attitude down to Tampa, and I believe we’ll be playing better football as the team takes on the personality of their coach. Alot of you guys who met Warren Sapp said he was a total A’hole off the field, but come game day I can’t think of a DT I’d rather have had on the field for our team. Even if Schaino is as big an A’hole as the Yahoo report clamis if he has as huge an impact turning the Bucs into winners as Sapp did do we really care if he wins ‘Most Likeable Guy’ awards with NFL talent scout and the media?
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:12 pm
All this crying about Schiano and his leadership is a lot to do about nothing. We finally are back on a path to respectibility. Real football players respect hard tough play. This isn’t powder-puff football. Also; Miguel & Mad Dog, we already knew that you don’t like Schiano, get over it already ! Go Bucs !
September 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 am
You know, I really like this page, and to comment on it, but I would really appreciate if Miguel el Grande and his boyfriend the Hawaiian, take their flirting somewhere else, go make some babies or something, and leave this page for the real fans who want to talk about football.
September 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 am
bucking if i made a grammatical mistake its because i was up all night working bit@ch. that’s probably why i was cranky as well. but you get my point.
September 23rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
It’s really funny to read buccaneer fans reactions to your douchebag coach/team as opposed to nearly everybody else’s opinions..This guy will become the new Buddy Ryan of the 90s.
Good game against the cowboys today LOL
September 28th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Hey, mikenice… The advertisements pay better $ than you do. No brainer