Shaun King Predicts 5-11
September 6th, 2012King thinks the Bucs are lacking athleticism in their receiving corps
NBC Sports NFL analyst Shaun King, one of only three quarterbacks to lead the Bucs to a NFC Championship Game, has put his foot down on the Bucs’ 2012 season.
Speaking on the Ron and Ian Show today on WDAE-AM 620, King says he sees the Bucs’ brutally tough schedule possibly leaving them with a 1-5 record and he predicts a 5-11 finish.
King is very down on the Tampa Bay defense. “We’re undersized yet I don’t think we’re overly athletic. I think that’s kind of a bad mix,” King said.
As for the Bucs offense, King says fans should look for the Bucs to pound the ball because they don’t have the horses to open up the action.
“I really think that they’re going to try to establish the run. Just because I think for them to create big plays in the passing game, it has to be off of play-action. I’m still not convinced that we’re good enough at wide reciever to just line up and throw the football around the field,” King said. “Like we don’t have Dez Bryant/Miles Austin. We don’t have Hakeem Nicks/Victor Cruz. Vincent Jackson’s good but I still think he’s maybe a notch below those guys. And from an athleticism standpoint, I still think, you know, we have some holes in that group.”
Joe doesn’t agree completely. Joe thinks more highly of the Bucs receivers than King, Mike Williams especially, and the Bucs surely have at least some size and true athletes in the secondary. Though Joe doesn’t see the Bucs with a winning record either.
You can listen to the entire interview below. (The annoying jokes at the start don’t last long.)
September 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Vincent Jackson has more athleticism in his pinky, than King had in his whole body!
September 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Vjax is a notch below Victor Cruz and Miles Austin? Is he out of his mind???
September 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Had the Bucs replaced Raheem with an African American head coach, King’s prediction would be a lot more favorable. May sound simplistic on my part to make such a statement, but I know what makes Shaun tick.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
That’s ridiculous, AK.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
As if Shaun King is an authority on looking at a defense and springhaas he sees. Didn’t he eat his way to a spot on the depth chart BENHIND Rob Johnson? Yes, Shaun King was beat out by a QB whose nicknamewa “Robo Sack.”
September 6th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Hey AK, remember last year that in King’s eyes, Mark Dominik was the devil in a polo shirt? He was responsible for every thing that the Bucs did wrong and King went off on him every day? Yet never did King say one world about that nitwit that claimed to be a head coach? It was all Dominik’s fault, never the coach.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Jimmy, of course. Granted, I actually like Raheem and strongly dislike Dominik, but I also have heard enough of Shaun King over the years to call it as I see it. And King defended Kellen Winslow quite a bit as well over his spat with Schiano.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
King is an idiot,if Freeman looks like he did in 2010 but now with a running game and his best wideout becomes the number 2 guy who is going to stop williams,and then add in Jackson.We will be 10-6 or 11-5 remember this as the year goes on that Bucobruce stood by his team and knew they would get into the playoffs.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
my sister has bigger hands than king
September 6th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Hey Shaun King,
Can you score 1 TD against the Rams?
Our D came to play, with pineapple being in the diets of: Sapp, Lynch, Barber, Brooks, and Rice.
Where was King? Tiny hands = Fumbles.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Sorry Kennedy, but what AK said definitely has some merit in my eyes. That stuff is a two way street, not a one way like some think.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
If I were still a gambling man; I’d bet the opposite of whateve he has to say.
September 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Everyone, even Roy Miller and Donald Penn looks undersized compared to Shaun King.
If Mike Williams drops passes like Victor Cruz, I predict a Tiquan sighting on Monday morning at the Buc Palace.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
VJ is better than any of the receivers mentioned. Our question is at the number 2 & 3 spot. Predictions are like tukheses (yiddish for butt hole). Everyone has one and most of them stink.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Im with bucobruce the team will b ok clld for 10-6 since the drafting I just c totally different team with a whole new mentality
September 6th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Ya I can’t believe this guy is considered an NFL expert. How can you even begin to say a guy who did well one year is better than VJax? What an outrageous statement.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Funny all of the Dez bryant comments – yet mike will still has better numbers than he has. Vjax and miles austin are neck an neck with each other. SHaun king is ridiculous
September 6th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@Joe and @sean king, what’s the point of even beings a bucs fan. With all the BS in new Orleans, this division is up for grabs. Who are joe and Sean to try and say the bucs will have a losing record. Sean is stupid v jack is more talente then Cruz and dez/miles right now. Bucs can easily win 10 plus
Games if Gerald stays healthy, yeah gerald. Completely different defense with him. Bucs strength is receivers, didn’t underwood just get cut? Arellious benn and Parker for slot? I’m 100% fine with that, bucs get more respect from mike mayock and co. Then there own fans, wonder why we don’t sell out games…
September 6th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
this from the same man whose ingenious idea it was to EXTEND raheem’s contract in the midst of our free fall last season. He felt it would show veteran free agents that the bucs had stability and would entice them to join the team. i’ll take what he says with a grain of salt.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Watching the Bucs 1st team D come out and spank Brady and their explosive offense gave me a lot of confidence in this them even if it was just preseason. Schiano won’t allow his guys to give less than 100%. If we can avoid major injuries to key players from here, and Freeman can stay calm and stick with the gameplan, we have a chance to contend in every game we play this season. Let the doubters continue to talk. It will only make this team play harder i bet.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
King was an undersized QB who made of for his lack of size and athleticism with inaccurate passing.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Should read – King was an undersized QB who made up for his lack of size and athleticism with inaccurate passing.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Let’s look at the schedule and see who beat in the talent department:
1/11) Panthers – Toss Up x 2
2) Giants – Loss
3) Cowboys – Loss
4) Redskins – Win
6) Chiefs – Toss up
7/15) Saints – Loss x 2
8) Vikes – Win
9) Raiders – Win
10) Chargers – Toss Up
12/17) Falcons – Loss x 2
13) Broncos – Toss Up
14) Eagles – Loss
17) Rams – Win
Looks like 4 games we should win, 5 swing games & 7 we should lose. 5 wins is a little low for me but it’s close.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Eh..with predictions the Mayans have us all beat!
September 6th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I personal know of Mr.Shaun King as I played for Gibbs with his brother and I played for Dixie with Marquell Blackwell,DeAndrew Rubin and others. Shaun went on to lead Tulane to an undefeated season and set passing records that I believe still stand today. Mr.King also put Tulane on the map just like Gregory Schiano did for Rutgers. King went on 2 b drafted in the second RD,2 our Bucs and had a good career for his sizes,small college, and local high school.I bet King went farther than all of us.It kills me, for us 2 talk bad about our homegrown kid that made it on our hometown team and we were the same ones calling for the Bucs 2 put him n cause it gave us the best chance 2 win.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
My only comment is wait and see.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Man I remember that game Mr.King had a cast on his arm and he still was throwing that thing. Y’all better go back n watch King college tapes.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I would say 3-5 in the division and 4-4 out. I would be happy with a 7-9 or
8-8 season and that would get us heading in the right direction.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
He actually showed some sound reasoning, but I’m higher on our top two WRs. The defense should have some additional discipline, but who knows how much that will show on the field. I think the secondary is hugely better this year.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
How is Victor Cruz better than Vincent Jackson? Lol@that.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Mbaby
Sorry but a lot of college QBs look really good. Not sure I remember Buc’s fans calling for him, though. He did get his chance when Dilfer was hurt. He was lucky to have such a great defense on his team. He just couldn’t cut it as a starter. Afterall, he did sign with 3 other NFL teams only to be evently released by them. One of them the Lions he asked to be released from after they signed Jon Kitna and Josh McNown. Looking back at his days here, I guess he was not one for competition at his position. He then didn’t cut in the Arena League or the Canadian League.
Glad you played and remember him as a star in HS and college.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Sorry Mbaby but a ridiculous statement is a ridiculous statement no matter who says it. Cruz/Nicks on another level then V Jax? WTF? How can anyone who watches football even think that makes sense. I don’t know Mr. King as you call him personally but he wasn’t a good nfl player no matter how great his college tapes were. And after hearing some of the stuff he said in that interview its apparent he has an axe to grind with someone in the Bucs organization. I don’t agree with his prediction because I believe we have a lot of talent but I can’t knock it due to last season. But the other stuff is crazy.
September 6th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
I predict Shaun King would destroy a buffet
September 6th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Mr.king might didn’t have the best career but he had a better one than some first rounder.I’m just glad he didn’t look like Barry Bonds after he has done playing
September 6th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Shaun King, the former NFL QB, clearly knows little about receivers than myself and many others here and I am proud about it. Mr. King, I respect your views, but have you ever watched Chargers vs Jets in playoffs of 09 season? The Revis Island was invaded, plundered and reduced to rubble by Vincent Jackson and he was the only one to do so that season.
The only wide receiver superior to Vincent Jackson in athleticism currently is Calvin Johnson. No other receiver brings the package of size, speed, strength and leaping ability. Fitz and Marshall are as big, but not as fast. Andre isn’t as big and not as serious threat as VJ with jump balls.
What makes VJ inferior is inconsistency. The guy has a problem with dropsies. But when he is at the top of his game, he is a friggin nightmare for any DB. He is one of those receivers who even when covered 1 on 1 is still considered open.
September 6th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Hey Joe,
Can we stop posting articles about what King has to say?! His constent negativity and outlandish remarks “Vincent Jackson is a notch below Nicks/Cruz/Austin and Dez” is getting real old.
King had one magical playoff run where the defense carried him the entire way. Only had one full season starting all 16 games and his stats were average at best.
This guy doesn’t need a soap box, or a public speaking forum, his expertise or lack of……..is not wanted!!
September 6th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
If the Bucs go 5-11 it won’t be because of the offense. It will be from a defensive collapse. King is not a good analyst. King tries to be controversial to attract attention. Don’t put a lot of stock in his analysis.
September 6th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I’m not going to bash King. Even the worst NFL player of all time has more knowledge about the game than any of us. That doesn’t, however, mean his predictions are right. One of the great things about the NFL is how unpredictable it is. In the NBA, for example, you can easily predict most, if not all, of the playoff teams. Not so in the NFL. Teams come out of nowhere every year.
Regardless, our season is going to be based on #5, and injuries. We can’t survive another rash of injuries like last year. I normally don’t think the first game is that important, but this year it is because of our schedule. Our first 4 games are pretty brutal. If we can get out of there 2-2, we are in excellent shape. Problem is, that may be a bit of wishful thinking. I was actually hoping the Giants would win last night, because they are going to be even tougher facing the possibility of going 0-2.
September 6th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Being a former player doesn’t make you a good analyst or expert, it just makes you a former player who had skills to make it to the level. I don’t put much stock in what he says either MTM.
September 6th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Why aren’t we calling Shaun King and pranking him mercilessly? “How does it feel to lose your job to Ron Johnson?”
September 6th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
King is a knowledgable analyst and I will not knock his opinion. Its no different from one of us making a statement, no matter how extreme it is. I think the Bucs will be better but how much none of us know. Honestly, I just want to see a professional, well prepared, conditioned, and physical team for 16 weeks. If I get that I will be so happy because I know we will be building on a solid foundation and not a bunch of fast talking.
September 7th, 2012 at 4:12 am
I completely agree with you Architek. I think it’s pretty dumb (even though I know most of you are joking) to bring up his career as some sort of evidence that he doesn’t know what he is talking about. Any of you guys even start at QB for your high school team? Any of you play D1 football? Any of you so much as get a tryout at the pro level? I think we will be better than King thinks, but all of us really don’t know what’s going to happen. We can’t see into the future. I would like it if King would predict a great season for us, but that’s not what he’s paid to do. He’s paid to give his opinion, whether it be positive or negative towards the Bucs. As far as I’m concerned, I don’t care if every single analyst picks us to go 0-16, as long as we prove them wrong.
September 7th, 2012 at 6:11 am
King’s personal success or eventual failure due to his limited work ethic and appetite have little to do with his knowledge of the game. What bothers me is that he is always critical of his former team. While other “knowledgeable” annalists see the addition of Jackson as a positive step, King treats it as “ho hum”. You’re Shawn King not Peter King.