51 Passes, No Sacks, Little Pressure
September 16th, 2012
A big thing that stood out for Joe in this painful loss to the Giants was the lack of pass rush, even after the Bucs knocked out the Giants’ right tackle David Diehl early in the game.
The Bucs’ dialed up blitz after blitz and couldn’t rough up or rattle the not-too-mobile Eli Manning in the second half, and there wasn’t too much pressure in the first half, either.
Yeah, Aqib Talib was burned repeatedly. And Ronde Barber and Brandon McDonald got embarrassed. But the pass rush sure didn’t help these guys out.
Roy Miller was invisible, and Gerald McCoy and Adrian Clayborn were neutralized. Michael Bennett had a few moments.
It was nowhere near enough, and nothing compared to last week against Carolina.
September 16th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
and why leave talib by himself on nicks ? 200 fricken yards !
September 16th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Yeah Manning is usually quite statuesque… To say the pressure was minimal is an overstatement. Very surprised as I really thought the D was further along. We couldn’t stop them on the ground or in the air. The only reason it was close in through the 3rd quarter were the turnovers. The Offense showed some flashes today with the deep ball but pounding the ball wasn’t working. No adjustments were made and this is disconcerting.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
At least they didn’t rush for 510 yards, which would have happened had Raheem Morris been coaching.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Sucks
September 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Joe, frankly that was the story of the game in my opinion. Well said.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
The big story is Talib and MacDonald getting abused. There will always be occasional breakdowns, but Talib and MacDonald sucked. MacDonald has an excuse (he’s just not that talented), but Talib? He got punked like a little b!tch all day.
And yes, the pass rush has to be better. Clayborn did nothing, McCoy had a couple penetrating moments, Miller was just filling space and Bennett had more than a couple moments. Collectively, thud.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Joe the fact that the audio plays automatically on multiple adds at once is ruining your web site!
September 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Raheem’s giving RGIII some pointers. If he can torch the Saints for 40 points in NO, how much will he score here in a couple of weeks?
September 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Talib lost this game all on his own….
September 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
@1Buccaneerplace – I never get that, which means it’s only happnening to some viewers. Turn off your volume. It’s not so hard, dude.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Talib is not a elite db bottom line
September 16th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
yeah, that sound on ads SUCKS…not just on here though, the nfl site with the videos that play automatically. irritating ….i leave the site most of the time.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Both olines performed well… the Gmen suppossedly have the all pro dline…but free had all day to pass as well… the Giants out EXPERIENCED us. Was a battle of clone teams and their veterans “superbowl champs” layed some been here done this on our young Bucs… great game tho! Let’s go Bucs
September 16th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
The price for Talib’s services in 2013 just went down a bit…
September 16th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
robert Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
yeah, that sound on ads SUCKS…not just on here though, the nfl site with the videos that play automatically. irritating ….i leave the site most of the time.
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I block the source sites with my Anti virus program. The only ads I see are the JBF.com based ads.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Frqankly…I didn’t expect our o-line to do so well. They played pretty good considering the players they faced.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Talib was constantly turning around too late and not making plays on the ball when they were there. I saw at least three plays where if he’d just turned his head, he’d have seen the ball and been able to at least get a hand in the way. He just seemed totally unaware of where his man was until the pass was almost caught.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I actually enjoyed this game. Would rather have won, but all things considered I saw improvement in several areas over last year (and last week), and I saw areas that need work.
We have an early bye, so in this one instance, I think it will help a lot. Coaches will work them hard in the bye.
September 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
As bad as Talib played, if bucs would have had some offense in the 2nd half,they wouldn’t have given Eli so many chances. Terrible play calling in 2nd half AGAIN. No pass rush and bad corners
September 16th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Front four couldn’t pressure, but neither could an all-out blitz, and the latter was getting the secondary killed. Why keep blitzing if they never get to the quarterback? Rush three and drop eight at least made New York work for yardage a time or two.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
And the best way to keep Eli off the field is? Go ahead blame it on the coach as usual. The offense can’t keep long drives alive any longer than last year and so far look no better. They have to get it done. Look at time of possession. So exactly what would anyone expect to happen when you leave another offense on the field that long?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Sheridan threw everything and the kitchen sink at the Giants and still couldn’t create pressure. We desperately need more pass rushers and possibly a new DC who can diagram successful blitzes. Talib and McDonald were horrible, yes, but the bomb to Cruz never should’ve happened. Ronde jumped the route at the 1st down marker cause a blitz was called and he expected Manning would get rid of the ball quick. When you send 7 (I think) rushers with no safety help you MUST get pressure or you’re toast. We didn’t even come close to getting pressure. Even if Ronde didn’t try to jump the route he still would’ve been beat later in the route. We can’t leave our corners out to dry like that all game.
This loss hangs on the shoulders of Schiano (conservative coaching with the lead), Sheridan, all pass rushers except Bennett, and the replacement refs of course. Talib and McDonald would’ve had OK games if the pass rush got there even half the time.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Also I’m not an advocate of rushing 3/4 and dropping 7/8…not at all. We’ve done that against the Giants before and Eli always picks it apart. We have absolutely no shot at stopping them when we drop in coverage, because the receivers will always get open before the pass rush gets there. At least when we blitzed we gave ourselves a shot at creating a big play, like the Eric Wright pick 6 that should’ve been the game winning score had the offense not sputtered into a conservative borefest for just over 2 quarters.
September 17th, 2012 at 2:03 am
Boy – As a Bucs fan I can be pretty embarrassed by some of our comments. Defending Super Bowl Champions on their own field. We sucked last year – plain and simple. So many people said coming into this game as long as we kept it close it would be considered a positive. People – It was close till the end and a hell of a game. Yes Talib gets lit up more than a Christmas tree but apart from that, I think the team hung in there and slugged it out and DIDN’T QUIT. Everyone can complain about the yards Eli put up but who out there thought we’d post 34 on their D?????
Stay positive Bucs fans – we are way better off than last year with a very young team which will only get better.
September 17th, 2012 at 2:23 am
Bangkok Buc,
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