“He Sees That He Got Outperformed”
August 28th, 2012
Greg Schiano explained that LeGarrette Blount lost his position battle on film
Today the leader of the New Schiano Order explained the reaction of LeGarrette Blount to being named the Bucs’ No. 2 running back.
Greg Schiano said the film didn’t lie and Blount’s a team-first guy who has a chance to reclaim his starting role.
“[Blount’s] disappointed, but he’s been great. I mean, he’s about this team. He’s about us winning,” Schiano said.
“When you watch the tape, and LeGarrette’s a smart guy, and he watches the tape, he sees that he got outperformed,” Schiano said. “But it doesn’t mean that that’s it. As I told him, ‘That could go the other way if you outperform [Martin].’ We don’t hand jobs and sign them over, you know, it’s always competition around here, continual.”
Joe was most intrigued by Schiano’s line, “We don’t hand jobs and sign them over.” It’ll be interesting to analyze how that might apply to the Bucs’ final roster.
August 28th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Eventually, some coach will figure out that handing Blount the ball on the first play of the first drive of the game and watching him get stuffed, is not really a conclusive evaluation of Blount’s ability as a ball carrier.
Blount will shine when he doesn’t have to take all the stupid – we are trying to establish a run game – carries. The draw into 8 men in the box because we want to show we are not going to give up running it.
Now, Doug Martin will get that duty; plays that continuously earn -3 to 2 yards per carry. Call it paying his dues.
August 28th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
It doesn’t matter. Both should see significant carries, and we’ll be a better team for it.
August 28th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
parker’s gone if this is true
August 28th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
@Optimus
That is not true at all, for instance, look at the Jags and MJD everyone knows they are going to run the ball, yet no one can stop MJD. On top of that the Bucs o-line is far better than the Jags. Great backs find ways to pick up yards regardless. There are plenty of others as well.
August 28th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Lion…..I agree. Nobody is going to go back into the first round and draft a RB they think is going to get 2 YPC. Martin is capable of breaking one off on any given touch.
August 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
What do you get when you give Peanut 1.0 (Martin) the ball on 1st and 10 and he runs into Peanut 2.0’s (Smith) back? Peanut butter.
Peanut 1.0 and Peanut 2.0 were walking through a dangerous Washington DC neighborhood late last night. I heard they were assaulted.
Get it? Salted peanuts.
I got plenty more Peanut jokes coming, I ordered a whole book of them.
August 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I love it! One of the many differences between a real coach and Rah Rah. It is a new day in Tampa Bay!!!
On another note, I still think Blount has plenty of value on this team and a lot of people seem to have short memories around here. Keep up the competition Coach!!
August 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Schiano’s truths are sour grapes to those that said it was ‘handed to Martin’ and ‘Blount was better’.
We have a good rb with good depth – never a bad thing.
August 28th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I think the backs are a good 1-2 punch. Blounts going to go in and pound the ball when the defense is back on their heels.
August 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Miguel, I posted this for you in yesterdays article, but it still stands true. Look up the facts if you want, but Martin is NOT a small back…
Being short and being small are two very different things. Martin is not small, he is a pretty big short guy. I read somewhere that the average weight of an NFL RB is 215 LBs. I beleive martin is around 220. Blount is just bigger than the average back. Shoot, Frank Gore is 5’9 217 lbs.Arian Foster, 6’1 229, Chris Johnson, 5’11 191 lbs…Our guy Martin 5’9 223 lbs…Thank god Miguel did not let these guys know they are all too small to play in the NFL. I could go on and on with names, but who cares about facts
August 28th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Still does not matter who is 1 or 2. Even with Martin in the last game same result. 1 TD and a bunch of field goals. Freeman is good for 1 drive and can’t hit the broad side of a barn after that. I will wait till the REAL games begin. We seem to have found a defense after see it after the last game. But looked like the same old offense. 1 TD and done.
August 28th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Miguel, just so you know, Peanut was the same 5’9 190 lbs. Not to mention Dunn was 5’9 187 lbs, and I think Bucs and Falcons fans would say he had a nice long career in the NFL.
August 28th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Bucfan20, don’t count him out because of preseason…Brady looked bad too. They are working on things in these games, not going for it like they do in the season. Remember what Lynch said on the one play, in a real game Freeman would have ran isntead of trying to get the ball out. This is practice, no need to panic just yet.
August 28th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I thought Blount outplayed him before he tried to coe back early from his injusry, trying to prove his toughness.
Joe- PFT just announced that the Lins were looking to trade for a back due to their string of injuries. Dou think that Dominick would shop Blount to them to avoid controversey with the decision togo with Martin? I would think that depth wuld be a priority, but crazier things have happened.
August 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Please start Orlovsky!
August 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Ok so out of the 14 posts so far not one is Thomas did he get all his gloating out yesterday when it was officially announced. I thought he would be on this post by now, you do have to give him credit it may have been obvious but there were people that scolding him saying Martin would not be the number one back. It’s been a while but I’m looking forward to a bucs regular season game, and I hope this feeling doesn’t go away.
@joe
I know this rumor is constant but any credibility in the glazers trying to make the bucs wining again to make it more appealing to a prospective buyer?
August 28th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Martin weighs 215, not 190. That 25 extra pounds makes a huge difference. He’s not a small back, he’s a medium sized back who happens to be short.
August 28th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Thomas 2.2 for President!
August 28th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
^^^^^
I think Dominick and Gerald would be exiled to another country if that happened. Lmao
August 28th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
@mcbuc
Brady had a face full of Bucaneers in his face all night. Freeman did not. Look close and you will see him not only miss Martin by throwing behind him ( which he did last year to Blount and Lumpkin ) but also at his feet. His feet are not his hands. He should have had 3 picks already. Pure luck he has not. Like I said. I will wait till the real games start but as of now I don’t care Martin Or Blount. Both are going to be good. Freeman will be the down fall. Just hope I am wrong. But if Things go that way and Coach is true to his word about competition, who does he replace him with???
August 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
You guys are hilarious, I very much appreciate the respect guys.
I know that many think that I am negative solely for the sake of being negative or a troll. Not true at all.
I enjoy this blog as a forum for expressing where I believe that the franchise could be made better – I find little use in obsessing over our strengths, I.e. Head Coach, O Line, WR, Kicking Game, hopefully QB and Secondary. Commenting with some form of “everything is great, or awesome” is a waste of time.
I do get passionate about subjects that I believe are being mischaracterized or misrepresented by the team or media, ie Rah, Dom, Glass Gerald is disruptive, Blount is a complete back etc. The reason: it causes the team to be slow in recognizing mistakes and weaknesses and therefore stunt it’s growth.
An example is the Gruden firing: I had no problem with Gruden being fired bc his ego was alienating the players. I had a HUGE problem with Gru being replaced by Rah – a cheap, incompetent replacement.
I do not profess to be always right, but my record on these subjects speaks for itself.We all want the same thing, wins, just some of us believe that a fan can point out more than strengths but also weaknesses.
August 28th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Dr. 2.2,
Class is in session.
Hope we can get some depth on both lines after Friday, when the final cuts are.
Your thoughts on OL/DL/BPA prospects?
August 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I would not exile DomDom and Glass Gerald to another country, I am thinking Washington DC the land of exiled buccaneers.
BTW: I would give Glass Gerald a season under Schiano where I would require him to make plays: sacks, stuffs(TFL), QB hits, Pass Deflections and tackles, and I would grade him on that basis – not the apologists “that looked like it may have possibly been in some indirect way disruptive to the offense Glass Gerald standard.”
August 28th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
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August 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Buc realist
NO THANKS! We already have a Thomass in office now and he pats himself on the back too!
August 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Miguel,
Ask for a refund on the peanut joke book. They ripped you off. Get it? A peanut without a shell.
August 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Either muscle hamster is a pro bowler, or Blount is not nearly as good as his hype.
August 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Score:
T2.2 Everyone Else
0 1,000,000,000,000,000
T2.2 loses by a long shot.
August 28th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
@Oar
that is true, but the guy that was in office before the current one was just like Rah Rah. We could not understand him at press conferences, gave big money contract to his friends, dissapointed all the fans, and finished just about last in the division every year.
August 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Our line situations are tough. I loved our O line before Davin went down. Now I just don’t know about Larsen, I rooting for the local kid but going from Joseph to Larsen is a big drop off at least at first.
Typically, there will not be a solution to that problem as a result of final cuts, behind QB and pass rushers – O Lineman are the most coveted players (absent a Revis type corner).
I evaluate our D Line this way: Schiano seems okay with our starting group – supplemented by Okoye, Wilson, Watson (hybrid) etc. I think our starters can compete vs the run but not vs the pass. Although Bennett looks explosive to me. Okoye has had success as a pass rusher but has had a quiet preseason. I am not sold on Miller at nose but we’ll see.
Frankly, I would be planning to play much of the season without Glass Gerald – I suspect quietly the team is bc he has had too many (6) injuries.
It is possible maybe even probable that an expensive vet gets exposed but there will be competition for signing that player.
I think we
August 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Looks like Jeff Fisher, Olson, Raheem and now Schiano all fail to appreciate the greatness that is Legarrette Blount.
August 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
No worries Mon….not since Alstott /Dunn has the RB backfield had a problem such as this….my wrists are sore from the hand wringing……
August 28th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I bet Michael Smith has the longest run from scrimage this year.
August 28th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Schiano will probably use Blount in the 3rd and 4th quarter to wear down the opposing defense. Blount will get his shots.
August 29th, 2012 at 1:21 am
I”m always late in these discussions but living in oregon i”ve seen blount play for awhile . the thing is he was never the feature back or “bell cow” for the offense . he was just the hardest man to stop game after game. he”ll still get over 800yds and 8tds this year. just watch. he’s a beast!
August 29th, 2012 at 1:25 am
That’s how you call a shot Tommie Tu Tu
August 29th, 2012 at 1:26 am
That’s how you call a shot Tommie Tu Tu !
August 29th, 2012 at 8:38 am
realist
I dont want to turn this into politics, but I don’t care about past ones, just the next one!
August 29th, 2012 at 8:39 am
RastaMon
A great quandry to have as a Buc’s fan! Aston or Peterbilt?
August 29th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
FLBOY…Exactly, but he is listed at 223, so almost 10 more lbs than you thought. 215 is said to be the average NFL running back weight. I am not sure why Miguel and a few others keep saying he is too small for the NFL. I also never heard the knock on him was that he could not take a pounding. He was projected as a 2nd round draft pick.
August 29th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
damn oar, how can you be so right with the buccaneers and yet so wrong in politics? 😉