“Nobody’s Trading For That Contract”
May 22nd, 2012
Joe’s quick to praise and quote two of his favorite analysts, former NFL scout, assistant coach and personnel executive Pat Kirwan, and Tim Ryan, co-hosts of Movin’ The Chains on SiriusXM NFL Radio. But this time Joe must call them out.
Kirwan and Ryan opened their show Monday barking that rockstar general manager Mark Dominik wouldn’t be able to find a taker for Kellen Winslow. “Nobody’s trading for that contract,” Ryan said.
Kirwan agreed and both were certain Winslow would be cut and negotiate a less lucrative contract with multiple teams that would want his services.
Well, obviously, Ryan and Kirwan were proven wrong only hours later when Winslow was traded by Dominik to Seattle for a 2013 pick. BSPN reported it’s a conditional pick, a seventh- or sixth-rounder depending on Winslow’s performance for the Seahawks.
Joe’s not surprised by the demand for Winslow. Knee injuries aside, guys that catch balls, get a defense’s attention and play every Sunday are always in demand unless they are total cancers.
Ryan and Kirwan, who for years have visited the Bucs and most other NFL teams training camps, called Winslow one of the fiercest competitors in practice in the entire NFL. But that wasn’t enough for the New Schiano Order. Winslow is not “Buccaneer Men” material.
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Hope this works out cause I’m really not sure if I like the move.
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
Doesn’t matter if you like the move or not. What matters is having a harmonious locker room and haveing the right players for the right scheme. If Winslow was so indispensable he’d still be a Buc. You people act like the coaching staff and GM are total idiots and just traded Winslow on a whim. Geeez. What ever happened to logic???
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
“called Winslow one of the fiercest competitors in practice in the entire NFL”
-how could he be the “fiercest competitor in practice, if he was excused from 50% of them?
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
BigPicture
Exactly, besides with limited and little limited time at said practices, many player can “the fiercest competitor”!
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Well apparently the Seahawks didn’t do any background checks because Winslow is as close to a cancer on a team that you can have. Number one the guy rarely practices and feels that practice is a waste of time. Number two the guy constantly whines for the ball even when he is rarely open and caused Josh Freeman to throw alot more interceptions than he would have if he had a tigth end that could separate just a little bit. Good riddance!!!! Let Pete Carol deal with the prima donna now!!!!
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Winslow was a good Pro .. He just had some Diva in him but for the most part was a good part of the team … But didnt fit with the new team.
K2 should be happy to go to a potential playoff team and stay on the West coast … WIn-WIn for both really.
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Nick2 to say WInslow was some major cancer makes me think you dont know much about Football or the Bucs.
He had some issues, but you are drunk if you think he was T.O.
Josh Freemans 1st season, Free said K2 helped more than anyone with how to study film and prepare. K2 trained by himself, but never was close to out of shape or not in top form.
Freeman and K2 had some issues when things went bad, But is the Nature of Football and I have seen the same thing from Peyton Manning on the NFL Network and Manning had to be separated from the players.
K2 was not a cancer, But he had some Diva in him and I understand why he had to go.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
4.8 million saved on the cap is no push off
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Never missing a game in three years trumps practice IMO.
This is pro football not college. Dumb move.
However, clark could play well. We have had some guys come off the scrapheap and make major contributions. Galloway, Hilliard, and Bryant come to mind. None of those had a pulse but turned it around.
Lets hope clark is like that and not like Tim Brown, Chalie Garner or reggie brown. I like pulling for old washed up guys.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
You like pulling and washing old guys?
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
Rub a dub dub washing three men in a tub.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
Clark for Winslow is fine by me.
Team over the individual, support and total commitment for the new regime?
You bet.
As always, I’ll take our front office and coaching staff over message board posters when it comes to running the Buccaneers. Many of the “fans” around here are worse than eagle’s fans when it comes to the Bucs anyway and that is pathetic.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
@Garv….trust the front office to make the right decisions? Take the opinion of a seasoned coaching staff over message board posters!!??? That’s just crazy talk…..
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
If they traded Winslow for the equipment manager at UCF it would be fine with you folks.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
@Bobby……LOL!
It’s obvious to me and most people I respect that there are far too many “experts” who feel that posting negative whining repetitive boorish crap makes them credible to anyone.
Seriously, the fans I know who go to the games, who I sit with, who support the team, have taken the time to visit One Buc are NOT like these creeps who find joy in being downers and pretending they know more than a bilge rat’s droppings.
See? I DO feel a comparison to eagle fan is justified!
Dallas Clack will be an asset and a player Josh can count on, on and off the field. You won’t see him screaming at our franchise QB.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Nothing against Winslow, he did play the games, but it’s a new era. That’s fine. Clark is a good idea. Stocker maybe good. The big question is can they stay healthy? We are now paper thin at TE and I thought we were beforehand too. I just think we should have addressed TE depth sooner.
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
For those of us that did bother to go to the games last year it was obvious that Winslow was past his prime and had to be moved. He would fight hard to make a catch but they were always in traffic due to his inability to seperate. Unfortunately as his skills deteriorated his demand for the ball went up. This leads to forced passes in traffic to a player who is unable (big difference than won’t people) practice. I truly believe if able he would have regularly practiced but his body just wont allow it. Also he was quick to check out of games once the team got down.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Atleast we got something. Still would’ve rather had KW2 on our roster. But Schiano is our HC and I gotta support him even if I don’t like the move. Come on Clark and the 7th rounder as well. I have zero faith in Luke Sucker…watched him at Univ of Tenn and didn’t like him then. Then we gave up an extra pick to get him last year. I hope he proves me wrong. But I doubt that will happen. I will gladly eat my words if he somehow works out!!