Kellen Winslow Traded To Seattle
May 21st, 2012Well, that didn’t take long.
Less than a day after Bucs tight end Kellen Winslow announced to America (and beyond) on SiriusXM NFL Radio that his days with the Bucs are done, Winslow has been shipped back to the west coast where he is now a member of the Seattle Seahawks.
The Bucs announced the move by way of Twitter tonight. The Bucs will receive a draft pick in return from Seattle but the pick was not specified.
Also, the Bucs confirmed that Dallas Clark is indeed a member of Bucs family.
UPDATE: 12:44 a.m. – ESPN is reporting the Bucs received a conditional pick, a seventh-rounder that can become a sixth-rounder based on Winslow’s performance in Seattle.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Good trade to get anything. And the Bucs got rid of his salary.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Just to tie up the K2 debate here is what Dom said when they traded for him:
Signing Kellen Winslow, 25, to an extension was not a condition of the trade, but rather what the Bucs viewed as an opportunity to lock up one of the league’s best young tight ends rather than lose him to free agency after two seasons. “We made the trade with the future in mind,” general manager Mark Dominik said Monday. “We consider Kellen a leader on the football team and when you trade away multiple draft picks, you obviously want the player for the long haul. Kellen has demonstrated he’s very excited about being part of our community and part of the Bucs. We’re excited to have him.” Winslow only participated in the first day of a three-day, voluntary minicamp last week.
Now I ask, did we get a leader? No
Did we get a player for the long haul? No
Thus, a failed trade, by his own words. And he didnt participate in OTA’s then either, which Dom had no problem with at all.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Joe, how long until we find out what we got for him?
May 21st, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Agreed TrueBlue.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:46 pm
@Eric,
Nobody cares, he’s gone, a has and was been. Good riddance and if they received a 3rd round pick or better, then they definitely are smoking some kick ass herb in Seattle.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:48 pm
ANY compensation for this guy is gravy. The writing has been on the wall for quite a while. Good riddance.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:50 pm
I’d love to find out what the pick is or potentially could be…
May 21st, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Saw elsewhere it’s a conditional pick. Let’s hope he has a good year with the Seahawks and starts in every game. Maybe get a 4th next year that can be used on a tight end.
May 21st, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Id be happy with a 4th, especially with that salary. I saw Clarks deal was for 1-year. Now we’ve got some nice cap room for a DE…wait and see!
May 21st, 2012 at 11:59 pm
A mega screw up by our GM ought to be of some concern…..
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 am
Osi is coming to Tampa.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 am
I would be surprised if it was anything more than a 4th rounder. At least they got something for him.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 am
can’t dig up some new Culverhouse material eric?
idiot
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 am
Right, because anytime you can get a productive player who plays all 16 games in 3 seasons, it’s always a mega screw up.
Why not disclose the draft pick, if only for the reason that twitter limits characters? We will find out by April of 2013 regardless! Are we afraid that the North Koreans will use such valuable information against us?
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 am
new direction, new offense, new coach, new mindset! he wasnt gonna thrive in the new offense that the bucs are implementing. so with that said, its a miracle to get anything for him. anybody that thought they might get a 3rd or better for him simply have no clue.
remember how the bucs got the draft picks they wanted this year? by moving up with multiple picks accumulated. sounds good to me. this nfl thing is a continuous motion which requires you to stay ahead of the game and Dom is doing just that.
wether the picks from this year pan out remains to be seen but i didnt see too many people complaing when the 2012 draft ended. i see Dom trying to maneuver the best he can and set us up for what can be (hopefully) another great draft to improve this team.
any GM out there can miss on picks but when i see that same GM lining himself up for good maneuverability and future drafting options….i like it. especially when they could have easily got ZERO for winslow. not to mention the fact that they started spending this year. when you spend money (something us bucs fans aren’t used to) dead weight has to go out the door.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 am
If he’s done such a great job for three years why are we trading him away for next to nothing?
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 am
Dallas:
Whenever Seattle or the Bucs release the information. No telling when.
Could be tomorrow, could be December. Very well could be a conditional pick.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 am
Yep another great draft, like all the previous great drafts that led to the glorious ten game losing streak and 4-12 record.
Awesome!
Maybe next year we can burn another second rounder on a bum kneed malcontent and cement this thing!
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 am
#1:
Joe would fall out of his tree if Pete Carroll would be that stupid to give away a fourth round pick for K2.
If Dominik would be able to pull that off, then he certainly did learn from Bruce Almighty.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 am
whats your solution? this is a forum that allows more than just whining and crying
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 am
4th round??? Lol we may have a 6th 5th at best for him.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Espn is reporting a 7th round pick which could become a 6th round pick if the conditions are met.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Heard it’s a 7th round pick that could turn into a 6th based on performance.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 am
BSPN says a 7th Rd pick with the option to turn into a 6th.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
Winslow has so much wasted talent, if he wasn’t so selfish he could have been one of the best, too bad he didn’t have the heart of his father but o well I would rather have freeman forcing passes to Jackson than k2 any day
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
Brilliant.
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
sweet……like i said, anything is better than the ZERO they were gonna get for him. anybody that thinks it was better to release him rather than get a 6th or 7th is delusional. and anybody that thinks they were gonna get anything more is even more delusional
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 am
ah yes…..eric…. no solution presented! just “brilliant”
almost as useless as winslow would have been in the bucs new offense
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 am
If the Bucs new offense doesn’t need a pass catching TE heaven help us…..
Didn’t Eli throw to tight ends?
Seems like he did…..
May 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 am
Eric, go to bed.
May 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 am
I, for one, would like to thank the Seahawks for giving up a draft pick for a player that was going to be cut anyway. Pete Carroll – we salute you.
May 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 am
Saw Clark practiced with the team today and had a nice one-handed grab. Think he’ll be a nice addition to the TE room, though he says the young guys are teaching him right now.
May 22nd, 2012 at 2:29 am
lmao seattle we should be glad we r getting anything for him im pretty sure alot of u guys have already seen him in his first practice the ink was still wet and clark clocked in right away if u dont love that as a fan u must retarded. I dont care how old he is for the bucs this year he is going to be priceless. He had a nice 1 handed catch. he is going to be good in tampa the warm weather should help him he also has orlovsky from indy as well. Loved the question to him do u mind being a mentor to the other te no hesitation said yes good bye K 2. Lets c if the bucs really like thier de situation for real they freed up some more money and a spot and probably another 1 before the end of the week schiano is not playing
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 am
Great move, even though I love the Soldier. Divas walk and deficients ride the pine now. Watching him block made me throw things. Pro Bowls for a Buc are a non-issue though. Paul Gruber never made a Pro Bowl- case closed.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:15 am
Hey Eric, why don’t you apply for the Bucs GM position? You seem to have the qualifications, or think you do.
May 22nd, 2012 at 5:16 am
@Hectic:
How about some punctuation in your posts. Its a b!tch trying to read them.
May 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 am
As much as I hate to say it, Eric is right on this one. His quote of Dominik when he first acquired Winslow sealed the deal for me. Short term it worked out well (based on Winslow’s performance), but you don’t trade a second round pick for short term unless you are almost a championship team.
That being said, I do just wish Eric would just let it go at this point. Mistakes are made every year by every team. Eric seems to take so much pleasure in anything negative regarding this team, and he doesn’t seem to grasp the concept of how that gets a little old after a while. Nothing says loser like constant negativity towards a team you love so much. You made your point, I agree, others won’t. Just try not to take so much pleasure in it.
May 22nd, 2012 at 6:54 am
Let’s hope K2 goes to Seattle and has a really good year, we get an additional 6th round pick, Dom takes that pick and moves up in the draft to pick up one of the top tight ends in the draft, just saying. Even if K2 has a good year, we will have enough offense from the pass catching running backs and improved receiving corps.
May 22nd, 2012 at 7:09 am
I predict this will be Dominick’s last year as Butch Davis will be taking the reins in 2013.
May 22nd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Can we throw in Eric and upgrade it to a 5? He seems to be well educated scout or GM in the making.
May 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 am
I used to like K2 until last year. They guy didn’t practice which is a terrible precedent in front of a young team. The he wines when the ball isn’t thrown to him, does not have the separation to get open anymore (hense all the interference calls against him) and runs the wrong route in the last game of the season and collides with a teamate. Then he misses the first practices after Shiano set the bar with cutting T-Jax for the same thing – the writing was on the wall.
Clark might be old and past his prime but the man is a consumate pro and will be nothing short of a team leader in the dressing room. If Stocker cannot step up with this opportunity and mentor, then at least we know who to draft with one of our top choices next year.
Go Bucs!!!!
May 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 am
NJBucsFan Says:
“Can we throw in Eric and upgrade it to a 5? He seems to be well educated scout or GM in the making.”
Through in Eric and the Bucs would have to give Seatle picks…
May 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 am
Joe – agreed. I was thinking of a 5th possible 4th, dreaming I guess. Wasn’t Asante Samuel traded for a 7th because of his contract? So your probably right. However, I still give Dom props on this one because we couldn’t have traded him next year and after that he would be a FA. Getting a 6th for that salary isn’t terrible, especially if we use that cap room for a DE. Dom is a chess player and this is a strategic move, in my opinion.
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 am
Did someone steal Eric’s pampers?? He sure seems to be wallowing in his own poop a lot lately. Anyway, he’s clueless. In football, like any business, mistakes are made and you move on. We got a few good years out of Winslow and now it’s time to move on with a whole new slate. It’s not about the player Tiny Tears…it’s about the scheme and what player do you require to run that scheme?? When Carolina got Cam they changed the entire offensive scheme to take advantage of his strengths. Now we have V-Jax, Doug Martin, and Blount. Sullivan is not Olson. His scheme is different. I know that’s hard for you Eric but try to grasp this concept….the ‘scheme’ is not the same as it was when Winslow was the primary target out of necessity.
I’d say that every GM makes mistakes just like in any other business. What you do to alleviate the problem is whine and cry and dwell on the past….oh wait…I’m sorry…that’s YOUR solution. The solution a good GM finds is to put the pieces in place to correct the problem. So…..T-Jax gone and Barron and Barber in. Winslow gone and Coffman, Stocker and Clark in. Faine gone and Zuttah in. Etc. That’s how it works in the NFL lil’ Eric.
You correct the mistakes you make. Doesn’t mean you won’t make any. Oh, but keep on pointing out all the errors because that makes you feel so much better. I mean your a ‘fan’ right?? That’s what fans do..they dwell on every mistake the team makes. They delight in every screw up and revel in pointing out every thing they perceive to be a flaw. Yeah….that’s what true ‘fans’ do…..uh huh….sure they do.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
7rd for winslow your best of player,crazy.
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 am
@hamilton…really?? What did Indianapolis get for Manning?
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
@ Bobby
WOW! You are spot on & Not just Eric..
Go Bucs!
May 22nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Sorry about that brock was just so excited for the bucs. The last college coach that when into the nfl demanding his players be pros on and off the field the same way also giving them that team mentallity and family for me is jim harbaugh. And look what they did his first season. Schiano is going to change this whole thing around for those that say he was an ok coach can somebody please name me 1 of his QBS from rutgers. Put them all together and u still probably only half of what freeman is. Kellen was a big reason for our melt down last year fighting with freeman all the time 2 get the ball. Oh yeah and can somebody please tell if they know how many pass interference calls where against K 2. I saw every buc game good and bad more bad than good twice. And something that was always a sure thing on offense was that K 2 would OFPI and TRUEBLOOD going offsides.