“He’s Never Had A Bad Game”
April 27th, 2012
Good luck finding anyone who will say anything negative about new Bucs safety Mark Barron.
John Lynch is raving about him. Mike Mayock’s already calling him a perennial Pro Bowler, (if there is a Pro Bowl anymore).
Speaking on WDAE-AM 620 this morning, even former Bucs QB Shaun King, a college football color analyst for NBC Sports Network and noted Bucs critic (and lover), joined in the love. And Perhaps King offered the biggest endorsement of all.
King agreed that Barron does everything well and said he watched every snap of Barron the last two seasons.
“He’s never had a bad game,” King said.
Joe enjoys all the hype, but Joe’s a realist. Joe will be happy if Barron stays healthy, stuffs the run and becomes a top-10 safety.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:09 am
I think they went safety because a couple years ago they had to pick between gerald mccoy and eric berry and now they have mccoy and a good safety. Bring the lumber barron.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Everyone that is upset about not getting Clayborne should just think about how our last 2 first round picks from LSU panned out. Clayton was a bust and Mcfarland was OK but never a dominant force. We took the highest rated player at a position of need. When I first heard the pick I was a little upset, however the trade back worked out very well for us we got the top safety in the draft and the 2nd highest rated RB in Martin. We filled ares of obvious need with starting caliber players. I would not be shocked if Dom finds a way into the second round and gets another starting caliber player either a LB or Cb tonight.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:21 am
To all the haters. On NFL channel two out of three experts agreed that the Bucs had the best frist round.It was on the show after the draft.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I love this pick! I have to be honest I was originally upset when we only got a 4th. Should’ve been atleast a 3rd. But as soon as Barron was the name, that anger was subdued. But to get a RB like Martin who can do it all, and only because of the 4th we got from the Jags! Brilliant move Dom!! We need to find a way to get back into the 2nd and get David or Upshaw!! We could then look at best CB available in the 3rd. Either a player or next years 2nd and 4th to do it. I would have no issue giving up 2 picks next year to get a LB like David or Upshaw who both have 1st round talent! GO BUCS!!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Mike Mayock is the ish. He loves players that can do it all. If Mayock says it, I believe it until the player proves otherwise.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:26 am
The only reason we just got a 4th rounder for the Jacksonville trade is simple. Its hard to get 1 team to bid against itself. Minnesota managed to pull it off but thats it. If only the Jags were interested in the pick like reports say…then it would be really hard to get several picks to get the trade done. Dom got what he could and still got the player they wanted.
And if Dallas wouldn’t have traded to #6 we would still have gotten Mo at #7 so…I love the move and can’t wait for the rest of the draft tonight and tomorrow!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 11:27 am
What I want to see or read about, is how Barron hits Blount in practice (pads) and what happens. My guess is the ball comes flying out and Martin comes in while Blount takes a breather.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:41 am
The awesome ex-Buc John Lynch? Yeah…. but what does Thomass and CapTim think? Theyre the real experts!
April 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I was a safety in HS and John Lynch is my favorite Buccaneer all time (as well as being a highly regarded football guy – baseball too but I digress). If he thinks we have something then I am inclined to think that we really have something.
I haven’t seen much of Barron on film but what I did see was a guy with very few holes in his game. He’s a day one starter and that helps us a lot.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:53 am
He look’s like a great player for sure to me.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I’d rather have a dumb cornerback who can’t tackle very well and who thinks he’s too good to answer all of the questions on the Wonderlic.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:57 am
This was an excellent pick. The Buccaneers could have HAD Claiborne if they really wanted him. Obviously they got the man they did want in Barron. As others have pointed out, they just CUT Tannard Jackson. The have LSU’s former DB coach on staff…….
Barron TACKLES, plays smart and hard, can cover and has good hands.
As for the jackwagons like, well, the usual idiots who honestly believe they know more about NFL player evaluation than do the professionals at One Buc?
Absolutely pathetic. I have read some “comments” in the last 24 hours that only cement forever my total disgust for their arrogant ignorance. Get lost 2.2’s, the lot of you.
April 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I still thought the value of MO outweighed the value of Barron albeit he is a bad ass safety. That was pre-draft. Then, I did some homework. We haven’t seen the Dungy style of meshing character players with talent in a long time. That was mentioned right after the pick by both Dom and Schiano Paisano. I don’t think this is a line of B.S. They really want to avoid the conflicts that the Talibs and Tanards have brought previously. Not to mention everything about Barron suggests stud. When I hear Mayock loving our picks and John Lynch giving a big blessing on the Barron pick, I get excited. I start thinking man was I wrong. I reserve the right to change my mind as knowledge becomes available to me. That happened when I originally wanted Trent and converted to MO. Well, I’m doing it again. My initial reaction was distaste when Barron was picked after big D moved ahead of us to snag MO. But then I considered the character thing and I’m not so sure MO qualifies. Barron also seems to possess serious run stopping skills like a certain #47 here that loved the pick. He also has leader written all over him. I’ll end my post with a quote from MO regarding his wonderlic score. A quote that made me very leary of his leadership skills and I have seen for the first time today. MO didn’t see any point in the test. Ummm, the point is you are being asked to take it in order to get to the next step to making millions, so do your best. Don’t B.S. us.
“I came to the Combine for football,” Claiborne said. “I looked at the test, and wasn’t any questions about football. I didn’t see no point in the test. I’m not in school anymore. I didn’t complete it.” Claiborne’s score made waves before it was revealed he suffers from a learning disability. The whole episode appears to have had little, if any, effect on his draft stock.
I’m flat out pumped after I have had time to make an informed reaction and I can’t even express how happy I am with the Martin pick. I wanted him all along and I believe Dom was genius to get in front of the Gmen to get him. There’s no question in my mind the Giants would have picked him at the end of round 1.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
That awkward moment when your sarcasm is so advanced people actually think your stupid.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
The only question I have about Barron is health related, but Claiborne (wrist) and Richardson (knee) had some questions too, so that’s a wash.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I am super pumped to get Barron, think he’s going to be excellent. To get Martin to boot before the Giants? priceless.
Think Dom could move back in the middle of the second to pick up a lb that he really likes, at least I hope. Do wonder if we will get a speed back later in the 5th round otherwise I would think it’s all defense from here on out.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Of course Barron is a Perrenial All pro
Every player we pick in the first round is a perrienial all pro
Barron us the greatest. Never had a bad game
That’s why he was the first pick in the draft!!! He is the best player ever, and will dominate the league forever!!!
Hype and Pr Bs.
The guy is a great player, and a great safety. But he’ll struggle in pass protection in the NFL- which is a bad thing in our division
But he’s no where near the talent of the top 6 guys in this draft. Missing out on Claiborne was as huge of a screw up as I’ve seen in years.
On a draft where we couldn’t afford a screw up.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
That John Lynch article is probably the best article the Tampa Times has written in years.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Capt. Tim Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Hype and Pr Bs.
The guy is a great player, and a great safety. But he’ll struggle in pass protection in the NFL
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Capt, you are mistaken. Barron is actually a better player than Claiborne. Morris could not stop the run and had 11 interceptions.
Barron had 13 interceptions and can stop the run. You don’t get 13 interceptions without being able to cover.
Red Barron was the smart pick at 7. He would have been the smart pick at 5 as well. Period.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Capt? Seriously, what are you the captain OF?
You seem to be delusional, to the point of honestly believing you know what’s best for the Buccaneers despite having NO access to the GM, HC, coaching staff, scouts or even the janitor at One Buc.
By all accounts that matter, Mark Barron was the choice all along, as evidenced by the trade down to take him. The only “screw up” is you “captain.” You and your ilk are, in fact, extremely screwed up and it’s time to move on to a team you can support. Maybe the cowboys? “Captain” of the cowboys…….not bad.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
And yes, absolutely, Barron was a better pick at 5 than Claiborne ANYWAY!!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
On other thing…Nick Saban also said Barron can play Linebacker. That’s an interesting thing. I don’t believe he will switch positions…but I can see him switching up from time to time for individual plays.
April 27th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
CapTim
Yeah I guess having his old college position coach on our coaching staff did wonders for us wanting to draft him? They didnt want him period or they would have stayed. Im glad after reading what he said and did on the wonderlik. He’s a quitter!
“Missing out on Claiborne was as huge of a screw up as I’ve seen in years” I didnt know you were still in High School?
April 27th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Love the pick, smart guy who can hit and cover as well as a leader, Clayborne can’t tackle or play the run plus don’t forget his wonderlic test score of 4, Barron is the stud we needs.
April 27th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Good thing we didn’t get Claiborne. His excuse for a 4 on the wonderlic: just blew it off because there wasn’t no football question on it.
April 27th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I don’t agree with Capt, but I’m always amazed at how many jerks there are on here who can’t handle disagreement without being nasty.
April 27th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Hindsight is 20/20, but considering all the chatter about the 4th we got for trading down and the Cowboys trading up to get Claiborne, could this have happened?
The Cowboys gave up a 2nd and is now shopping Jenkins. Could the Bucs at #5 have asked for Jenkins and a 4th? The Cowboys would still have their 2nd, the Bucs would have had Jenkins and a pick at 12 for Barron since Dallas would be off the board or Harrison Smith or Dontae Hightower and still have there 4th to do the Denver deal for Martin. What if?
April 27th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@ Capt Tim
You claimed Claiborne is All-Pro on another post earlier today, then you go and mock someone who has just as high opinion on Barron, and not just any someone, but a guy who A) it is his career to analyze players and teams and B) played the game at the same position at a Pro-Bowl level for several years. But I guess we should dismiss Lynch’s opinion because he’s at least somewhat qualified to express it, opposed to yourself.
You’re one of those people that needs to keep toilet paper around so you can wipe yourself whenever you open your mouth.
April 27th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The most damning thing on Claiborne is that his own secondary coach is on our team and we didn’t stay put and draft him. I’m pretty sure that this wasn’t a mistake by Dom. He get the best player on their board at the time and got us an extra pick in the process.
And i hate hearing that crap about taking a safety early in round one. The safety position is critical in both run and pass support especially with all of these hybrid TE/WRs playing in the league.
April 27th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
@pete I didn’t see Saban say that but I like to hear it. Absolute worst case scenario is that Barron proves to be a liability in coverage and moves into the box as a Will LB.
……Or maybe we could bring back the 4-2-5 of Sam Wyche and make him the “Buc-backer” ala Barney Bussey
April 27th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Meh
After weeks (shoot even monthes) of the same negative crap and “I’m right your wrong zombies” and “your all idiots” remarks, its hard not too!
When in Rome…….
April 27th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Oar, It has been going on for years now. It honestly pushes me away from this site. I like to talk about things even when I disagree with other people, but it just doesn’t seem like this is that kind of place. It is just personal insults. Too bad because I like the site, and I think there is some great football knowledge in the comments that is being totally obscured by the 6th grade attitudes.
April 27th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
@ OAR:
You forget it was ” I am always right “. Remember that one he said?
April 27th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
BucFan20
Oh yeah and that one too!
April 27th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Meh
I know it has been years just not the same posters. it seems to cycle through to some different posters lately. But, thats too bad, cause there arent any sites with as much Bucs info and I respect your posts. Good luck.
April 27th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Can’t wait for him to knock that foul Jimmy Graham on his ***.
April 27th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
haters = losers
April 27th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
do you think claiborne could find Texas on a map ?
April 27th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@raphael…….do you think claiborne even knows if a game can end in a tie?
April 27th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
You boys are missing the point. It isn’t that we didn’t want Claiborne. It’s that Dom gambled and missed. He knew The Jags wanted Blakmon. He knew the next team was set at Cb, and wanted a De.
He thought he could trade down, and still get their man. He didn’t count On the cowboys trading up. Bad plan- we lost Claiborne, over a miserable 4th round pick
We got a very good safety, and a great Rb
But we lost Out on an incredible Shut down corner.
Big mistake.
April 27th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Capt. Tim…you are looking pretty silly. Not too late to admit it was great first day and just get behind the team.
April 27th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@Capt.Tim…….we needed a safety just as much as a cornerback (actually it was a much bigger need). at least we already signed a cornerback when we got Eric Wright. We released T-Jack and that left an injury prone Grimm as our only safety.
We picked up a very good player.
The 4th rounder in return was actually a good thing because it allowed us to move up to get Doug Martin. So we really didn’t lose anything.
April 27th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
@meh Capt. Tim deserves everything he gets, he insults everyone and is a troll. I will never insult anyone other than that jerk. If that makes you feel better. Tim go away you bag
April 27th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Claiborne is one dymentional, shut down corner yes, but god forbid a 5 or 10 yard bubble screen, he can’t tackle or stop the run, Barron can cover and knock the snot out of a RB on a bubble pass, up the middle or around the end not to mention he was team captin at Alabama, this dude is a leader, do your homework people before you be-atch,
April 27th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Meh- these guys are always insulting. Because they are are always wrong. These are the same crew that guarenteed the Bucs were gonna draft Richardson . I told them there was no chance, and the lil Zombies cried and called names
Guess what? They were wrong. Dom said today that the Bucs never had any interest in Richardson- like I said.
So. Now they firmly plant their collective mouths on The Buc one Pipeline, trying to pretend like they had a clue
Again showing their stupidity, as we missed out on one of the 6 elite players in the draft- being stuck with one of the ” other guys”
This draft- like most drafts- is a few elite players, some very good players. Then a ton of average players.
Dom’s gamble cost us a chance at an elite player.
These guys don’t understand any of that.
That’s why they thought a team with the worst Defense in NFL history would draft a RB!
And it’s why they don’t understand what we lost yesterday.
It’s called stupidity
They have dealt with it their whole lives
That’s why they call names like little kids
Mentally – bingo- that’s who they are
And as promised- to all of you idiots who kept whinning that we were drafting Richardson– Lmao!! Lmao!! Lmao!!!
As clueless as I said you were!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Hey Jarrett- after weeks of ” promising” the Bucs were gonna draft Richardson- how stupid did you feel when Dom said they NEVER had any interest in him.
Probably about the same as the rest of your life, huh- lol
April 27th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Tim is once again mistaken. We weren’t saying we were going to draft TR, we were saying we want TR. that’s a difference he apparently doesn’t understand. He stated that TR would fall to the teens or twenties, yet he went third (on a trade up). His boy Claiborne (who’s he’s never even seen play, and he doesn’t even deny that fact), fell to 6. Yet we are the zombies??????
April 27th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
1st off Capt. Tim…I put in all caps and guaranteed we wouldn’t draft TR3. I’ve said that from day 1. But you are so wrong with the garbage you keep posting. We got a star Safety (which we have ZERO talent on our roster in that position besides injury plagued Grimm), and allowed us to get a stud RB who I believe, will put up better numbers than TR3 for their careers. He can do everything on the field at an extremely high rate! Barron was a 2 time captain at Bama’, led the SEC in picks in 2009, and can play Safety, CB, or LB in the nickle. To get both players because of the trade to move down 2 spots was the move of the draft.
Also Capt. Tim…I have been the biggest Mo supporter on this site since the season ended!! He was my pick the entire time until I heard about possibly trading with the Jags about a hour before the draft started. In my post I clearly stated that Mo’ still has a chance to be there. But if not then we should look at Barron, Kuechly, or Hightower. Barron was the biggest need and best option once Mo was gone!
We have now added Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson, Eric Wright, Okeye (DT from CHI)spelled wrong I’m sure, Mark Barron, and Doug Martin. Thats 6 new upgraded starters on our roster. Its also not even round 2 of the draft. Cheer up and support your team who is finally making moves or kick rocks and join a Jags or Phins website. You football IQ will mix well with the idiot moves both those orginizations make consistantly!!
April 27th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
And I’ve already said Barron will be a very good safety.
You just don’t waste the chance at a shut down corner. Yet that’s just what we did
April 27th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
This is just another repeat of a few years back when we didn’t draft Jenkins and took Talib, everyone said then the Cowboys took the guy the Bucs needed, how did that work out? Jenkins is trade bait and Talib has had a better career, trust the Bucs brass, they don’t go to your work and tel you how to do your job, Dom would look mighty foolish asking if you wanted to super size that fri order, just shut up already and embrace Barron.
April 27th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
This is just another repeat of a few years back when we didn’t draft Jenkins and took Talib, everyone said then the Cowboys took the guy the Bucs needed, how did that work out? Jenkins is trade bait and Talib has had a better career, trust the Bucs brass, they don’t go to your work and tel you how to do your job, Dom would look mighty foolish asking if you wanted to super size that fries order.
April 27th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Poor Capt Tim. Still trying to convince himself he was right and they wanted Claiborne. Your a NFL GM Legend in your own mind.