Josh McDaniels’ Brother Joins Bucs
March 1st, 2012
The younger brother of Josh McDaniels and the former Broncos QB coach, Ben McDaniels, may have emerged as the new man to mold Josh Freeman as the Buccaneers quarterbacks coach, so reports CoachingSearch.com.
The Bucs have snagged him out of his brand new gig at Columbia University, which also is confirming the hire.
Tampa Bay Bucs: Sources tell me that Columbia offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Ben McDaniels will be joining the Tampa Bay Bucs staff.
The Bucs, however, have not confirmed this report.
Interestingly, McDaniels was recently named to the Columbia staff by ex-Bucs offensive line coach Pete Mangurian, who was Raheem Morris’ former boss at Cornell University, a former Patriots tight ends coach under Bill Belicheat, and a guy known as a foul-mouthed, ball-buster when he guided the Bucs’ O-line to great achievements in 2010. Mangurian was sent packing by the Bucs after that season.
So via the association to Mangurian, Joe will assume that McDaniels is a no-nonsense guy. He also played quarterback for Kent State. And perhaps Greg Schiano’s close ties to Bill Belichick, who re-hired Josh McDaniels, somehow played a role in this hire.
Of course, Ben McDaniels’ ties to Tim Tebow are sure to grab plenty of headlines; anything Tebow does that. So Joe expects this move to actually ridiculously excite casual football fans across the Bay area for that reason alone. Maybe even sell some tickets.
UPDATE: Trusted sources have told Joe that McDaniels will not be the Bucs quarterback coach, though his specific position and duties with the team are unclear at the moment.
March 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
TIM TEBOW IS A GOOD FB, BAD QUARTERBACK. Nuff said.
March 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Always thought Josh McDaniels was a real dick and he totally screwed up Bradfords development. I hope his bro is quite different than him.
March 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Wow! Finally! Welcome Coach. Go Bucs
March 1st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Half of the solution, let’s see what the Bucs do in FA to address a WR upgrade.
VJAX?
March 1st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
who
March 1st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Run Josh run!!
March 1st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
O. M. T. he was able to coach Tim Tebow up to where he was able to complete 36% of his passes against NFL defences…maybe Jesus was actually working miracles through Ben McDaniels.
March 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
He coached the QB’s on the High school level for 3 years!!!!! I’m excited!!!!!
March 1st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
His father is a legendary high school coach in Ohio that also …. Coached Mario manningham in high school . Manningham is going do everything to get to Tampa now
March 1st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Too bad he wasnt on the staff in 08, resume clearly superior to our last head coach, we may not have had to suffer through the last 3 miserable years.
I just hope that the Glazers dont get another hair brained idea to buy some billion dollar asset so they gut the franchise of everyone with value again and turn the team over to some cheap nitwit so they can payoff the loan. Obviously I am still jaded over the fraudulent franchise we followed for the last 3 years.
The truth of what happened here since the end of 2008 is a real shame. At least Culverhouse was consistently cheap.
March 1st, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Welcome to Tampa Coach. Here’s your eraser. Freeman will be here shortly. By the way. Tell Freeman when the lane opens up, there is no traffic light that turns green to let him know he can run for the first down or more.
March 1st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
He has already spoken to Freeman! Told him to start throwing the ball from waist level- and get it to go end over end- not that rediculious Spiral!
TEBOW STYLE- baby!!
March 1st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Bucs draft:
1. Trent Richardson
2. Stephon Gilmore
3. Mike Adams
4. Phuck Philly
5. Tank Carder
6. Best available
7. Most talented player available
March 1st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Why is everyone bitching?
Me no understand?
We removed the blandest brand of Football, and the absolute crappiest Coaches in Bucs History.
We are going innovative and bringing in a run and gun guy from a family of football coaching.
Draft Trent Richardson and get over yourselves. Time to draft a PRO BOWLER.
March 1st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
@Stevek
NO TO RICHARDSON.
No offense, but ANY GM in the next decade who drafts a RB in the top 15 is n idiot and should be fired.
More and more offenses are heavy on the pass.
The rules dictate it.
The way it is going, almost every single team, including the teams in the SB, are using more than one back. Blount is young and is getting better at receiving and, with new coaches, should get better at blocking.
Coaching can address the fumbles.
The only thing needed is depth at RB and a speedy complement to Blount that can be had in rounds 3-5.
Bottom line, drafting a RB that high is a massive waste of value.
March 1st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
@ Stevek, don’t believe we have a 4th. Gave that up for Luke Stocker
March 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
What if we trade the #5 pick to Cinci for the # 17, 21 picks and a 4th?
Then we draft:
17: Dre Kirkpatrick
21: Janoris Jenkins
I can see Cinci swooping in to scoop up Richardson.
March 1st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Yeah! If Richardson can do for us, what Mark Ingram did for New Orleans!!
Ingram was higher touted- and did nothing.
We’ll lose 12 games again( or more), cause we still will have the worst back 7 in the league.
Now, if we sign 2 Good CBs, Two great LBers, a speed receiver, and a o lineman or two- Richardson and his bad knee are still not the best bet – but at least it would be an option!
Of course- we wouldn’t have the lowest payroll in the league for the 8th straight year! No way we are gonna break that record! That low payroll is a plan- and I think we will still be the low dollar franchise again this year
Time will tell
March 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
A repeat post to drive the point home. Jumping over bitcher like Legarratte Blount.
Matthew, human nature’s first instinct is to always say “no.” So when someone brings up something new then it is natural to say no. Most human beings are proud and once they say no they feel the need to defend it, no matter how wrong they may be.
People argue that Wallace isn’t worth the 5th pick in the draft. Well 50% of all top ten picks are either busts or players that are decent, but not stars. No matter who we pick at #5 and what position they play, we as fans and employees with the Bucs would all be hoping that the player selected would be as elite at their respective postion as Wallace is in his.
People act as if this offseason alone will determine whether or not we will make it as a franchise. Some seem to think we can sign Vincent Jackson and draft Morris Claiborne and that somehow is better than a combo of either Carr and Wallace or Finnegan and Wallace. Every year there are varying levels of prospects at each postion. Every year there is a can’t miss player at each position and overlooked stars to be that get passed on. Also I wouldn’t be shocked if the Bucs won 4, 6, 8, or 10 games next year. I don’t think the talent is unfixable, proper coaching that can get the players lined up in better positions will lead to better results. Bottom line this team is a work in progress and needs 2 – 3 years until it is ready to make a run. We have time to rebuild, that is why Schiano is on a 5 year deal not a 2-3 year deal like Rah.
With all that said, I know that the Bucs will not trade the pick for Wallace. But I think the idea of, for the umpteenth time that is probably making most of you sick to your stomachs, Blount pounding the rock, Wallace burning them deep, Williams and Winslow owning the middle, and the potential of double coverage on Wallace opening up Benn and Williams is a recipe for success that could be a long term solution for our offense that will allow Rock Star GM Mark Dominik and Up and Coming Rock Star Greg Schiano to focus almost all of their efforts on adding pieces to our defense. With the exception of OL.
I know that most people have stopped reading this post by now, and those still reading will rush to respond with such gems as: “the Bucs will never do it so just dropit” or “Wallace isn’t worth the 5th pick, draft Blackmon” (that one is very funny to me btw) or ” VJax and Claiborne are better” (they are easier, not better) or any other type of negative response.
An owner that had lots of available cap space and a clear mandate to spend, would make this move because we have a need for an elite blazing top end WR that would open up so many possibilities for our team, both on and off the field.
Also, I am willing to admit that I would also like the idea of drafting Claiborne in the 1st and drafting Stephen Hill in the 2nd. Or, Claiborne in the 1st and another DB in the 2nd. Or, signing Vjax, signing Carr or Finnegan, drafting Claiborne in the 1st, and drafting a Hill or DB in the 2nd. Or even, signing a FA or 3 like Nicks, Finnegan, Carr, VJax, Colston, and drafting Richardson and so on in the 2nd. I can admit that I would like every single one of those scenarios, I just think everyone else can admit that they would be thrilled with the Wallace scenario as well.
March 1st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Was this guy in Denver when his bro destroyed the team?
Moves like trading Cutler and Brandon Marshall and bringing in Tebow?
Destroyed to the point Jimmy Fox had to come in and clean it all up?
And didnt his brother oversee the severe regression of Sam Bradford?
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March 1st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Um- Wallace doesn’t want to leave- especially not to come HERE!( are you nuts? playoffs again when??)
Pittsburgh has said they intent to match any offer- and unlike New Orleans- they have a lil cap room.
Do even the most optimistic of you really believe he would cone here??
4-12, new head coach, straight outta of a small college, and his position coach would be the legendary “PJ Fleck”
Really?? Come on, man! there is dreaming, and there is flat denial of reality.
He ain’t giving up all that Pittsburgh playoff money( always a contender), to come work for a team with an unproven Rookie head coach, rookie WR coach, and a young team with a reputation for quitting!!
Please- give it a rest. You might as well wish for Eli Manning, and the Giants front four
March 1st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
C’mon captain you know how this works, all we got is dreams.
After the draft there will be the usual euphoria over the “beasts” and “steals” that dominik selected.
Till they have to step on the field of course.
March 1st, 2012 at 11:14 pm
What happens in FA should give us a clue as to what may happen in the draft. So let the PAIN of this count down to FA continue!
March 1st, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Yeah, I know Eric. I felt bad, being the dream squashed there. But I figure better now, then later. Like a parent having to tell the kids that they are broke at Christmas time.
Better to get it over with, before they get their hopes up!
But you’re right- they can still get excited about the draft, and the new coach!
Til the season starts.
These loyal fans deserve better. It’s just heartbreakin’, to think about the sad, disappointed faces, when they realize that it’s gonna be business as usual- cheapest product- maximum profit.
March 1st, 2012 at 11:40 pm
You guys realize that FAs have to WANT to come here, Right?
Why would they?
Jus wondering
March 1st, 2012 at 11:41 pm
GreenBay had a guy like Clements as QB coach to develop Rodgers.
We get a High School coach for Freeman.
March 1st, 2012 at 11:46 pm
McDaniels brother? Yawn.
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:08 am
unimpressive resume. I do wish Ben luck.
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 am
Capt TIM
Free Agents have shown over the last 20 years that hey will go where they get paid. VERY RARELY do they not go somewhere because the team is bad. It is unfortunate, and most fans say they would not do that, but it is the reality.
Of course this means the Glazers will have to open the purse a little to get a bigger name or 2. Persoanlly, I think they will with at least one guy and thn signa bunch of others of a little lesser ilk for depth and to fill holes
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:33 am
Eric…we get a guy like Sullivan, who already said he’s going to work closely with Freeman.
I don’t care much for Josh Daniels, and the thought of someone like him working with Freeman isn’t comforting. But I also believe family does not reflect on who you are as a person.
He’s not head coach. Josh Daniels did okay before he became a head coach.
March 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 am
Why cant we trade down with the pats for there 2 first and take wallace and still have a first?
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:56 am
Bucs fans,
I am a Bucs fan too, but, I know more that you do. We should sign “x” player. What? You don’t agree? Well, I am going to keep repeating the same reasoning, over and over and over and over, I’m also going to insult your intelligence if you don’t agree with me. My opinion is CLEARLY better than your opinion (even better than the most experienced pro analysts, who actually get paid to do this, and still get things wrong)
Allow me to give you my qualifications showing why my opinion is better that yours:
Ummmmm, wait, I’ll think of something….wait, I will copy and paste my opinion in multiple threads. That’s my qualifications over you.
AGREE WITH ME OR I WILL GIVE YOU MY OPINION AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN…..
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 am
I already hear it now Bucgate!
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
Pete it is josh mcdaniels, and we hired his brother ben mcdaniels,got it
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
Interesting! Wiki is showing Ben McDaniels as Offensive Asst. and QB coach as vacant. Some clarification, please!
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
ALSOTTSMART ,,,, Well said !
March 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Oh great Ben and Josh hanging out in the South Tampa bars….just great…
March 2nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
@pete it is BEN …not Josh …what the hell is wrong with you man !
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
this is a good oboy hire
March 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
You know, I’ll bet Schiano never even considered that Freeman would need good coaching. Probably totally slipped his mind. My guess is that Sullivan won’t have any hand in Freeman’s development at all. Nope….that would be silly. LOL! You guys are soooo funny!
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:18 pm
@jarrett
Cut me some slack, guy, it was late, I’m old and I was typing on a Kindle Fire. Got it?