Captain Faine Cut Loose
March 14th, 2012
Joe’s not crying about this widely expected move announced by the Buccaneers: center/captain/entrepreneur Jeff Faine has been released.
Faine was scheduled to make gobs of money in 2012, and clearly he was not going to be a starter once manbeast guard Carl Nicks was signed and Jeremy Zuttah was given starter’s money in a longterm deal.
Faine just wasn’t that good, nor was he versatile enough for the Bucs to want to restructure his contract to have him stick around as a reserve.
Joe always appreciated Faine’s candid interviews. He was one of the more interesting and insightful Buccaneers in years. Though Joe thought Faine was a collossal ass for his stances during the lockout: that players would be eating Saltines and anchovies, and that his presence was meaningless at voluntary offseason informal workouts led by Josh Freeman.
Good luck, Faine. Joe suspects there won’t be much demand for his services, if he’s only looking to be a starter.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
1 down 3 or 4 to go…….Talib next pls.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
No way Talib gets cut before his trial.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Now trade Win-slow please. Its time to have a real power run game.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@ raphael
I get the desire to cut Talib from a football perspective there’s zero reason to do so:
1) He’s young
2) He’s cheap
3) He’s talented (but inconsistent)
4) Combined with Wright and our 1st or 2nd round corner we’ll have great depth at the position this year
5) He has every reason to keep his nose clean under the new staff b/c he’s out of chances
Why create a hole when you don’t absolutely HAVE to?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Lofton???
March 14th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Thank you for your efforts Jeff! We just don’t need you anymore buddy!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Life in the NFL. One day, you are the FA that everyone wants to sign.
In the blink of an eye, you are too old/Small/ slow, and out da door ya go!
Wait- life in general is like that!!
Thanks for the good Play, Jeff. You were a good Buccaneer!
Good luck to you, Sir.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
K2 is next! 9Million??? SMH
March 14th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Thank you Jeff Faine for being a Buccaneer. You played hard and lead our team the best you could. Thank you and good luck in all your future endeavors…
March 14th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Joe, I just hope in 3-4 years we aren’t reading this same post about Nicks. Former Saint and Bucs make them highest paid ever at their position…hopefully just a coincidence
March 14th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
We appreciated the effort Jeff. Strictly business. Nothing personal.
Good luck in the future.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
“Faine has started every NFL game in which he has appeared, a total of 117 in nine seasons.”
GOOD LUCK JEFF! You were a passionate player!! I appreciate your game!
You were solid in the center. You had a great career. Thank God for your health.
Football is a BRUTAL game that really hurts and maims a lot of men.We should show love and appreciation for these warriors.
They play a brave game that WE LOVE TO WATCH.
So from a life-long Buc fan, who sees the man under the uniform.
I THANK YOU.
from-
– A Warrick Dunn fan for Life.
PS- “This move is bittersweet, but I leave in great health, excited and energized for my next opportunity. I look forward to seeing Josh Freeman and some of the other young talent become bright stars in this league.”-Jeff Faine
WHAT A CLASS ACT!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
@sensible
Talib is a cancer and trouble just follows him…
March 14th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I’m for cutting Talib…after the draft. Lead teams to believe we’re standing by him so no one trades up to steal Mo.
I am not for trading or releasing Winslow at all as of this moment. And certainly not in favor of trading him for anything less than a 2nd rounder. There are teams that would do it…like the Skins, Colts, and a few others.
But I would rather keep him another year to see how Sullivan makes use of him.
And there is nothing wrong having one pure pass catching TE on the roster.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
@raphael, have heard plenty of fans call him that, but find me a quote where his teammates don’t say what a great guy he is. Having said that, expect his leash to be short due to past transgressions.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
You don’t cut people till you have to, or until you have their replacement’s guaranteed to be in your grasp. Notice how we “knew” Faine would be cut, but not until Nicks inked his deal.
If we don’t get Claiborne, Ronde retires, and Talib walks free from Jail, are you really going to call for his head so that Biggers or Lewis can be the 2nd and 3rd CBs!?!??!?!
Use. Your. Brains.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Best of luck Jeff! Thank you for your time in Tampa.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Doesn’t seem that long ago that Faine was the coveted free agent signing that everybody was excited about.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
@flboy don’t think any player would put a qoute about another player out there.His talent is average.IMO he is a thug and we should not employ thugs. I think we are building a different team than pot heads and thugs.
@bigpicture see above and use your brain…..just say no to pot heads and thugs.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
@Pete
So you think we should keep Win-slow, just to put him in on 3rd and long??? does not make alot of sense. If i am a Defensive Cord. for the other team I just put my slowest CB or smallest LB about 4 yards deep on Win-slow, Let him push off (for a penalty) or if he catches (with no penalty) small gain with no YAC. I also tell my Defensive End to Run by Trueblood because Win-slow will never chip block.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Good player and guy IMO, no matter what he said about the workouts and lockout.
The way the team played he was right – they werent very valuable.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
I am impressed by all the good work Talib does in the community…*sarcasm* same with T-jax
We never heard of crap from Lynch,Barber,Brooks,Brad Johnson,Rice,D-jack,KeenenMcardell,Keyshawn,jurvicious. time to get back to talented upstanding pillars of the community.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Did anyone read the follow up story to the Talib incident. It was in the paper.
The woman, a 58 year old grandmother, said in her call to the police- she was afraid to get out of her car because a man” was running around outside, yelling at her!” this, after he hit her car in the rear.
A 58 year old grandmother. No history of “ambulance chasing”.
No legal history at all. Didn’t know who Talib was when she called.
Yeah, I want to get rid of Talib. I don’t give a damn if he is the most talented player in the league- which he isn’t. He sucks.
I don’t care if he is the last CB in the world.
He is trash. I am sure that Schiano will see this also, and take out another load of garbage from the last two regimes!
Then, I really REALLY be proud of this team.
Let him go threaten old ladies in someone else’s town.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Called a good game. Is very smart and I wish him luck in his future endeavors. But just like life, it eventually runs out of time. Reminder to us all that no one gets out of here alive.
After his playing days are over, he will do well in whatever field he chooses because he brings a passion with him.
Again, good luck.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
@ Capt.Tim
Please stop sugar coating the comments. Tell us how you really feel.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Gerald McCoy tweets that Curtis Lofton signed with the Eagles.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
@capt.tim agreed !
March 14th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Jeff, thanks for you for your efforts, play and for being a Buc. Best wishes for your future.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Buc realist- yeah, we keep Winslow.
Our leading reciever the last 3 years.
The only guy who could create a mismatch, and create separation.
Yeah. No question about it.
Two ways for a tightend to handle a LBer in the Running game. 1) block him out of the play 2) if you are faster, force him back off the line, then force him to cover you.
Winslow is very fast for his side. That’s why they line him up at WR occasionally.
To big for CBs, to Fast for LBers.
Winslow is a weapon. We are lucky to have him. Along with Jackson, they will force the Safeties to play the pass( Finally).
This will allow our O-line to force their will on the D-line and LBers.
Power running 1.0
Gonna be good stuff
Don’t know why everyone turned on Winslow, after that one lil yelling match with Freeman.
That stuff happens all the time, at every level of football. I’m sure Freeman loves having Winslow here. He was his only dependable option last year. This year- its gonna be goid
March 14th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
@ Macabee
He corrected himself like 30 minutes later. Nobody knows where Lofton is going as of yet
March 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Winslow is not the mismatch he was pre injury. He is a horrible blocker, which Schiano won’t tolerate. He doesn’t practice, which sets a horrible example – which Schiano won’t tolerate. He cries is he doesn’t get enough balls.
Bye-bye Kellen.
Faine was a good player,salary outgrew his value considering age / injury.
Pete: nobody in the world will trade a premium 1-3 round draft pick for Winslow – considering his injury history and contract – nobody.
I would be surprised if you would get a 5th-7th round pick for him bc you get stuck with his contract. I expect Winslow to be cut and the team will add a TE in draft and let Stocker play mostly on run downs.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Sorry guys, but ya know me. I tell it like I see it.
Everybody deserves a chance.
But Damn! Threatening 58 year old woman?
How much lower down the scumbag chart can a guy slide?
IMO, his BS was the biggest factor to the teams lack of discipline, and subsequent collapse last year.
I’ve been saying it for two years. One bad apple really can poison a whole team- especially a young team, without established, in place leadership.
Sapp, Nickerson, Brooks wouldn’t have tolerated this clown for a minute.
Sadly, we don’t have them here.
Up to Dominick and Schiano- to show Our Young players how a Tampa Bay Buccaneer player maintains himself in public!
They are shopping for CBs,for a good reason. Lol. Hopefully, one ass clown has threatened his last Grandma in this town
March 14th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Macabee: GMC’s tweets, like his play, are typically unreliable.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
@capt tim I don’t think Shiano will give Winslow days off ,his knees are bad and not sure if he will make it.Winslow will have to practice now so it will be interesting….imo they will try and get a draft pick for him.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I think we need to wait to see how his trial plays out. But I won’t cry if we end up cutting Talib. Especially if we draft Claiborne.
But I don’t get why there’s so many idiots who want to cut Winslow!! The guy has consistently produced for us for three years and has been our leading receiver. He’s never gotten in trouble and how exactly is he a “cancer” to the locker room. Not everybody is an angel guys. No ones perfect.
The only way I would get rid of Winslow…..the only way…..is if we traded him for a 2nd round pick and signed Kevin Boss. We get a TE who is at least somewhat close to his level and we have the extra high draft pick.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
whats up with Curtis Loften? sounds like his agent should be fired…I heard he was raising the price when he gets in the meeting.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Thomas- pre injury? What injury , the damn Motorcycle injury???
Jesus, that was two friggin years before we got him!
Oh, yeah, he is still a mismatch. That’s why we got him. That’s why he is our leading Reciever!
Who we got better? Stocker?? Hands of stone in college, hands of stone here. I would throw the safety in the box, and wouldn’t even cover stocker. He won’t get the ball , if yer ass willed it to him!!
You create running lanes, by stretching the field with your pass catchers, and blocking the D-line and LBers!
Not by putting a non- weapon, non threatening lummox in the line
Who the heck is he gonna make nervous?
Buc fans- that’s about it!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
@ Thomas
Zing!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Didn’t they try and trade Winslow to Chicago a few days ago?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Although I am really interested in seeing Chase Coffman play.
Though he had talent in college
March 14th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Raphael: yes.
Tim is way behind the times.
Winslow has catches, but his catches per ball thrown his direction and YPR stink.
Winslow has had knee surgery every offseason since he signee here. Reports were at the end of previous seasons – that he was basically not practicing.
If not traded, Winslow will likely be released – if he will take a lot less money he could be resigned. Winslow has little value in the eyes of the league.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@Capt.Tim I agree on Winslow. But why are you arguing with 2.0? Wouldn’t talking to the wall be more fun?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
By the way. Lots of NFL vets- especially those with Chonic injuries, have shortened practice schedules.
They held Ronde out of practice last year, at different times.
Nickerson, Simeon Rice, Luke Pettigout, Mike Allstott, etc,etc.
All would either have a reduced practice schedule, or not practice.
And why is that such a big deal to some confused guys??
Winslow has been Playing Football for 20 years!
He’s figured it out
Taking off Tuesday, to add longevity to his knees- is nothing but a good idea!
We play the games that matter on SUNDAY, not Tuesday.
SUNDAY is when you want him playing!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
The fact that they are trying to trade Winslow lets me know his days are numbered. It has nothing to do with his talent, it has to do with his attitude. I think he is a detriment to Freeman’s development. He forces Freeman to take chances getting the ball to him because he’s constantly demanding the rock. I think when they signed Coffman they are going to try and use the TE more in blocking schemes and Winslow just doesn’t fit in. Look for him to be let go if no one bites on a trade. I think we would take a 4th for him.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
TopDoggie- lol! I come here for the arguments!! That’s the best part!
Besides, once in a while, Thomas is actually right.
I just make sure that he knows how seldom that is! Lol
March 14th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
If they tried to trade Winslow once they probably will do it on draft day.
If Schiano likes him as a player why the trade attempt?
Could be a foregone conclusion.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Winslow was a real necessity before V-Jax because he was the only big target Freeman had. Now we can put Chase Coffman out there who is 6’6″ tall and can block and with Jackson, Williams, Benn, Parker and Briscoe….Winslow just doesn’t seem so important. V-Jax is as tall a a TE with the speed of a WR and he can block.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I doubt Winslow is on the team this year…I am not bashing him I am a hurricane fan actually.I just don’t think he has alot left,thats all
March 14th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
No one- NO ONE – “forces” a QB to throw them the ball.
WRs who act like Dic%s, don’t get thrown the ball.
Bad stats, bad numbers= low dollar contract.
That’s why Wrs generally kiss QB ass. Otherwise they get the “T.O/ Randy Moss treatment” . QBs don’t throw to them, and they end up outta the league.
Freeman threw to Winslow for one reason. Kellen was the one guy last year, that Freeman thought would either get open, or would fight for the ball.
In other words- the only reciever he trusted.
The rest just stood and watched the defenders take the ball away. Young WRs don’t understand that THEY are responsible for the ball, once it’s thrown in their area.
Freeman forced passes to Winslow, because he was the only one he trusted!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
“was” the only one he trusted……
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
True to a degree Capt. but did you see him coming back to the sidelines and getting in Freeman’s face when the ball didn’t go to him and he was open?? I remember one time in particular when it was a TD pass to Briscoe and Winslow was pissed instead of celebrating. He certainly is not a blocking TE and I believe with the signing of V-Jax he became an unnecessary expenditure. Time will tell but I don’t think he’s a Buc this season.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I haven’t heard about an attempted Winslow Trade?Meybe I am full of sh*#.
I didn’t see it mentioned on any of the Chicago sites or boards.
Anybody got a link?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
“Was the only one”
True. But if they trade him, aren’t we back down to one again?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Bye Faine!!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Just saw a ‘one on one’ interview with V.J. at buccaneers.com. That guy is really an impressive young man. Very bright. He was a straight A student and it shows in his interviews. We need intelligent players and he is one. Keep him away from the party scene and I look for great things from him. I’m sure that Schiano is going to create a zero tolerance policy for off field issues.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Bobby- yeah, I did see him arguing with Freeman. And yeah, it bothered me too !
But that happens alot in football, at every level.
If he reoccurred, I would be worried.
But it seemed to me that they were buddies up again the very next game.
A few hot words, in the heat of battle, is not reason enough to end your most productive weapon – Freeman to Winslow.
If they worked it out, who am I to say it can’t be fixed
It’s not like they shot at some 58 year old woman, or something.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Kellen Winslow Jr will not be going anywhere. He will be a Buccaneer for another year or two.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I am against trading Winslow. First of all i have read each one of all your arguments and none of you have put a name out there to replace winslow. You wanna out locker in? He did not show that he can be a starter let alone catch a ball! Now all you guys are complaining about his blocking bla bla bla but if you haven’t been paying attention lately we just signed an absolute beast for an o lineman and our whole o line is pretty damn good so im not so concerned about the blocking! Now what i want to see out of our TE is him catching the ball and scoring TDs! AND i think winslow has shown he can do that and hes good at it. About him and Free who the hell knows whats going on on the sideline during the game none of us do they are big guys pumped up on adrenaline during the game so who knows what him and free were talking about?? Maybe free did something wrong and winslow was pointing it out and we did go 4-12 so i would hope guys on the sideline would be pissed off while getting killed like we were! So can we all shut up about this look at the 3 guys we just got and stop complaining!!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
This was overdue and he won’t be missed….. or signed by any other team. Maybe Faine and Ruud can a start a Soft clothing line together.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Remember our Super Bowl game?
The video shows Jerry Rice chewing Gannon out about not throwing to him. Anybody who wouldnt want Rice on your team?
If he is cut or traded its the knee and his play, not the attitude IMO.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Thanks, mr. Faine, class act. Go Bulls and Bucs
March 14th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
@Mark Are you Mark Dominik?
March 14th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
I love the intensity
March 14th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Bobby-have you not seen the clip this week the NFL channel’s been showing of Peyton Manning in Jeff Saturday’s face on the sideline? To a certain extent that’s what warriors do sometimes in the heat of battle. That’s not the best thing to do on a regular basis but when you’re the no.1 target, other receivers can’t get open, the Benn’d around is a regular play in the playbook, you’ve lost several games in a row, your games are blacked out, Trueblood is passblocking, your steamroller in the backfield isn’t being used like he should, and you’re playing from behind by several TDs it’s bound to happen and understandingly so.
Why in the hell would we cut K2 when he was a dependable receiver when it was just him and the defenses constantly zoned in on him. Cut him when now we have a SOLID no.1 deep threat receiver that will take looks away from Mike Williams and an incredible OL that will open things up for our running game.
I’m all for getting a solid TE on the other side but we need to keep Winslow.
That said, if we do trade him, I think he’s worth a 3rd or 4th rounder.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
LOL at the guy who asked “Mark” if he was Mark Dominik.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
It is hilarious how fast Aints fans turned on Nicks as soon as he left that sh!t hole. Nicks even posted something on twitter about it.
Before today he was the best Guard in the league, and then as soon as he leaves and goes to Tampa he’s garbage. They’re going to find out again pretty soon what the bottom feels like because this Bounty Gate business isn’t going away anytime soon and losing All Pro players does affect your team. You know, for a team that bought most of their good players in free agency, they sure have some balls giving the Bucs sh!t for taking advantage of a ridiculously strong FA class this year.
Man do I hate the Saints.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Thank you for your service Mr. Faine. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Bring on Zuttah! It will be great to see what a strong young reliable run/pass blocker can do from the center position. Zuttah at center should take a boat load of weight off of Josephs shoulders as well as Blount.
Now he can focus on just carrying Trueblood’s dead weight instead of both him and Faine.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:00 am
@gotbbucs As long as Brees is a Saint, they will be a force to be reckoned with. They could win the division with him alone.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:01 am
“That’s not the best thing to do on a regular basis but when you’re the no.1 target, other receivers can’t get open, the Benn’d around is a regular play in the playbook, you’ve lost several games in a row, your games are blacked out, Trueblood is passblocking, your steamroller in the backfield isn’t being used like he should, and you’re playing from behind by several TDs it’s bound to happen and understandingly so.”
Wow. That made a lot of sense. Thank you, sir.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Man, do I hate me some damn saints.
I don’t like the “Dixie Chick” Fatlanta whiners, either!
I’ll be real happy, when we start whopping their asses on a regular basis!
And those wretched Carolina kitties. I don’t like them none, either!
March 15th, 2012 at 12:07 am
@ Thomas, being that they have like 12 20-something TE’s on the roster (a slight exaggeration), see the Bucs looking to add a vet TE if Winslow is released/traded. The draft is fairly weak at the TE spot this year as well. A guy like Boss who can block as well as catch and has a history with Sullivan may make more sense.
@Capt Tim, the Commish tweeted yesterday the Bucs attempted to trade Winslow to the Bears, but were turned down. Doesn’t make much sense really (being that the Bears just gave up 2 picks for Marshall), unless it was a player for a player swap. Winslow for Devin Hester?
March 15th, 2012 at 12:09 am
Don’t get me started with the falcons i just despise them and the worst part my best friends a die hard falcons fan.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:18 am
How about Winslow to Miami for one of their 3rd’s this year. They only have Fasano and Yeatman at TE on their roster right now. Big homecoming for K2 as well might sell them some tickets. Just a thought.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Thomas,
Your facts, as always, are wrong. Raheem and the staff gave Winslow the days off. He never asked for them, or even wanted them. Guess where Raheem got that idea? Gruden. He did the same thing for Galloway, which probably prolonged his career. You are such an idiot, you should really be embarrassed.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:45 am
This is the best move the bucs have made in years.. Faine sucked!
March 15th, 2012 at 12:48 am
@Hawaiian Buc Why not kill him with kindness?
March 15th, 2012 at 2:07 am
The Falcons. Damn Falcons! Man, I hate me some damn Falcons.
FlBoyindallas. If we got a 3rd for winslow( which is rediculiously low,we would probably get 2-3rds), what would ya do with it?
TE is the weakest position in this years draft. That’s why Dom traded up last year to get Stocker- no TEs this year worth a damn
And who would play TE for us? We got NO BODY!
So- we couldn’t replace him, if we got 3 -1st round picks for him.
And we got absolutely nothing on the roster that could take his place.
And, just so ya know- if anyone is thinking we sign Kevin Boss- the reason they cut him, is that he is horribly slow. I mean – horribly
Albert Haynesworth could backpedal fast enough ta cover this guy!!
So- If we got nuthin better, and we can’t replace him,
Why would we get rid of him? He’s our leading reciever?
Ya don’t cut yer best guy!! Ya cut yer worst!
March 15th, 2012 at 2:47 am
@Capt Tim Hello.
Bears got Brandon Marshall for 2 3rds. (Yes, I know he has character issues and yes I know he is under investigation) Most of the NFL doesn’t seem to care about character issues. The Bucs certainly don’t. The Saints certainly don’t. The Bears certainly don’t. The Patriots certainly don’t. The Bengals certainly don’t. What they do care about is production.
Marshall is far more productive from his position than Winslow by a long shot, respective of their positions. Marshall’s position is of far greater value than Winslow’s considering TE’s average monetary value is only above K, P, and FB. WR is, on average, the second highest paid position in the league(only behind QB obviously).
With that in mind, why would a team forfeit two 3rd round picks for a soon to be 29 year old TE who’s speed is severely hampered via consistent knee issues and is collectively known to be a poor run blocker? That just doesn’t seem feasible.
Honestly, if we never had Winslow and he was a RFA, would you seriously consider giving up 2 of our 3rd round picks for him?
I would not. I liked the signing when we got him. He is doing good things for us. It was a solid move. I would like to keep him but I highly doubt anyone will relinquish two 3rd round draft prospects for Winslow. Extremely high doubts as TE is not a high priority with many teams increasing their 4-5 WR sets.
Of course, the Patriots are utilizing two TEs very effectively, but would you ever consider Winslow to be a Gronk? I don’t believe you would. Would you ever consider Winslow playing from the #1WR/#2WR/Slot/Rb position like Hernandez? Of course not.
It is always a possibility, but to expect two 3rd round picks for Winslow seems just as unfeasible as expecting a team to give up a 1st round pick for, even though I really like him,Michael Bennett.
March 15th, 2012 at 2:53 am
Agreed with Tim. Winslow is the guy fans love to hate. I see the guy doing work and I’m not sure exactly what the beef against him is. He produces. Maybe not the best blocker but he’s a legit weapon. Getting rid of Winslow makes absolutely no sense. For that matter, it makes absolutely no sense to get rid of Talib. So, the guy is a little gangsta. It’s football! The gangstarer the better. Let’s see how Talib responds to coaching. He hasn’t had any since the fat guy from Kansas.
March 15th, 2012 at 2:56 am
Wow. Sorry for the really long post, guys. :/I didn’t realize it was that long. Please forgive. Especially sorry to Capt Tim for barraging him with way too much subject matter for a fast paced sports forum.
March 15th, 2012 at 2:57 am
@cmurda You nailed it on Talib and Winslow.
March 15th, 2012 at 3:26 am
Carl Nicks on how he plans to help the Bucs move forward:
“…. give it my best. Try to maul people. Smash them. Hit them in the mouth. Help them up and let them know I’m going to do it the next play, and the play after that.”
Wow. Just wow. Same attitude as John Lynch.
March 15th, 2012 at 3:47 am
But then later in the interview when asked “What is it like to have a back like Laggerette Blount?”:
“[the Saints] pass 1st, they pass 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th….. [the Bucs] got Laggerette Blount and Ward in there and who knows if they get anyone in the draft.”
Nicks believes Derrick Ward is on the team?
There are a lot of things I get from that statement. I’m gonna highlight something different : player’s votes for the pro bowl are seemingly worthless as those who are the best at their position do not even know who is on their opponent’s/new team’s roster.
March 15th, 2012 at 5:08 am
awww faines gone and now we have to settle for penn,nicks,zuttah, and joseph darn it…
March 15th, 2012 at 7:56 am
All I’m saying is that if it’s true they tried to trade Winslow then he’ll be gone before the draft. You’re right, I don’t know what Winslow and Freeman talked about on the sidelines but then neither do you. I do know that I saw Winslow quit on a lot of his routes last year. He can’t block and like I said, isn’t V-Jack a bigger target or just as big? If Schiano’s plan is to pound the football then we HAVE to have a TE who can block. Winslow does not fit that description.
March 15th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Thanks for your Buccaneer days Faine and good luck to you!
As for Win-slow, I would not stay up at night if he was traded or released. He never should have been paid the highest TE contract, especially when he hasnt even been in the top 3 his entire time here. And, oh yea, HE CANT BLOCK! Not a good thing for a running team.
March 15th, 2012 at 8:26 am
We have had Faine as our center for several years, how dominat has he ever been for our Oline? He may have called the line blocking adjustments, but I have seen plenty of guys have a free lane to our bacwkfield time & time again. Majesty me wonder if he really was that good at making those line calls. I have no other issue with Faine, other than the lack of making line calls and his lack of true leadership for the Oline & offense in general. When you are a team captain that has responsibility that comes with the C on your jersey. Not just on gameday but during the week leading up to gameday and in the off-season you make it a point to be first at the camps wirh
March 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
We have had Faine as our center for several years, how dominat has he ever been for our Oline? He may have called the line blocking adjustments, but I have seen plenty of guys have a free lane to our bacwkfield time & time again. Majesty me wonder if he really was that good at making those line calls. I have no other issue with Faine, other than the lack of making line calls and his lack of true leadership for the Oline & offense in general. When you are a team captain that has responsibility that comes with the C on your jersey. Not just on gameday but during the week leading up to gameday and in the off-season you make it a point to be first at the camps
March 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am
with or with out coaches. A Vet player should be encouraging the young players to be there first. Not bash others who are giving it their best effort to improve in the off-season.
Good luck Mr. Faine. IMHO a leader leads from the front not the rear. And is the first to be at camp, meetings, or in a teammates face if they are not toeing the line you have Set in stone by your actions.
March 15th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Anyone remember the reason we got Faine? John Wade had injury issues and the Bucs had brought in a guy a couple times that did a really bad job. I’ve been trying to remember that guys name but can’t…can anyone else?
March 15th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Pete
I remember John Wade only missed half a season(his second with us) due to injury and played every game in his final 3 yrs. Then right after FA started Faine was signed. I really dont remember the other player you wondering about. Are you thinking about Jeff Christy? I know he was before both and on the SB team.
March 15th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Haveanice . . Lol- Np!
I think the difference is in how we see it.
Winslow doesn’t have constant knee problems
Winslow has a degenerative knee desease, caused by injury.
Resting the knee, slows the effects.
He doesn’t block. He never did. Not even at Miami.
Neither did his father- whos in the hall of fame.
Brandon Marshall is more productive- um, no. I don’t think so at all