Will Raheem Be The Skins’ Assistant Head Coach?
January 5th, 2012
Cash-tossing Danny Snyder, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan might be after another big free agent — one with “core beliefs” who’s “ready to deal.” That would be Raheem Morris, the recently defrocked Bucs head coach.
Per Redskins reporter George Wallace’s Tweet, Raheem has been dining recently with Redskins staff, and Brad Biggs of NationalFootballPost.com says Raheem might be tapped for a key position on Washington’s staff.
The ex-head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is reportedly in the mix to join the Washington Redskins, who are looking for someone to clean up their secondary. George Wallace of WTOP radio in Washington reported Morris was spotted in the area dining with Redskins brass, leading one to believe he was in town for an interview.
It’s possible the Redskins could look to add Morris as their defensive backs coach and coach Mike Shanahan could also give him the title of assistant head coach. Morris and Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan have a relationship together from their days on the same staff in Tampa.
What a great potential fit for Raheem. Joe assumes Raheem would lose the $2 million remaining on his Bucs’ head coaching contract if he coaches with another team in 2012. However, if the Redskins make it worth his while with a long-term deal, then maybe Raheem jumps to join Bruce Almighty and Shanahan, and revive his resume at the same time. Plus Joe assumes the allure of playing the Bucs next season would be quite attractive.
If Raheem gets this job, Joe wonders what free agents in the Bucs’ secondary he might ask for? Elbert Mack? Ronde Barber? Surely not Sean Jones.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
He can take Biggars
January 5th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Snyder is the only man foolish enough to offer big compensation to a D-Backs coach. $2mm is a large amount to leave on the table.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
That would be great for Raheem. I wish him the best and I’m sure he’ll do a great job for any organization that brings him in.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
They need secondary coaching help and if there’s one thing Raheem excels at when that’s the only thing on his plate it’s coaching up DB’s. I think it’s a great fit for him, actually.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
That would be interesting. Especially since we play the Redskins next season. It would be nice to go up against a Raheem coached secondary and have a properly coached Freeman/WR corp tear them up.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
He sure cleaned up our secondary lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Would be a good opportunity, and tells me Bruce is a class act.
Just like when he refused to fire Jon which cost him his job.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Trade Quincy Black to the Redskins. I bet Raheem would want him back.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
joe he does not lose his 2 million if he coaches for the skins,raheem will make his 2 million no matter what,but the glazers can minus his salary with the skins from the 2 mill. so in short if he makes a million from the skins the glazers only owe him 1 million
January 5th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Even though things got ugly I wish him the best. He had the right idea just not enough experience yet. I remember after a horrible 4-12 season in 2006, raheem coached the defensive backs for the Bucs in 07 and was one of the best seasons from that unit
January 5th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Say it ain’t so…first Sapp, then Lynch, then Brooks tried, then Barber? Why can’t any of our heroes retire a Buc? 🙁
January 5th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Leroy Selmon retired a Buccaneer rest in peace
January 5th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Barber will NOT go to Washington and/or Start over with a new team.
He’ll either return to Bucs or Retire.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Wienaman… Brooks tried, as in, he did indeed retire a buc. SMH
January 5th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Take Aqib and his mom’s pistol with him…
January 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Maybe he can get Bruce to trade for Talib! We need a 4th round pick.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Well…Brooks didn’t exactly ‘retire’ now did he……
January 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I bet Bruce and Raheem would like to have Quincy Black over there. Let’s try it.
Maybe Marinelli would take him in Chicago. He traded for Gaines Adams.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
No Joe, he was hired as the D Backs. A position that he should NEVER have been placed above here.
Also, rumor that I am heard that was first reported months ago is thst Rah’s contract for next year was a team option so they didnt owe Rah a penny after firing him.
Otherwise, why he take a much lower paying lower level position so quickly. I believe it true, if Dom negotiated a club option for next year that shows that someone knew he was a bad coach and not a long term solution. Interesting.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Rockstar gave Quincy that money. Rah wanted Ruud. Get your facts straight
January 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Buc neckid: ronde is from Virginia and Snyder might pay 7-8 million for a 1 year deal. Expect Ronde to sign with the Skins for 2 years.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Our defense is devestated enough. I’m not exactly cheering for Talib to not be back. I’d like to see a tandom of Claiborne and Talib next year if Talib can stay healthy mentally and physically. That’s asking a lot on the mental side…..
January 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Thomas….come on dude. 7-8 million for a one year deal with Ronde??? OOOOOOKKKKKK…………..
January 5th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Really hopefully he will take his “warriors” with him. Snyder would love to have somebody like Winslow. Another diva that can’t practice and screams at his quarterback. Talib they can have him too. If Rah signs with them Dominick needs to be on the phone right away telling Rah hey these guys would be good for your team too. All of Rahs men that were cancers can go right out the door with him LOL. What a joke. Pray for the Redskins they are about to have a terrible secondary.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Bobby what are you thinking? Talib is up on attempted murder charges, punk slaps cab drivers and bitches at head coaches. We wont even talk about the fact he can’t stay on the field because he is injured more than any other secondary player we have. We might get Claiborne (LSU) at number 5 so lets trade Talib now or IF he doesn’t go to Texas State Prison. I could care less and hope he does. Thug pure and simple and not the kind of guy you want to have on our team going forward. I could care less who is behind him at this point.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
If Ronde signs for 7-8 mill with the skins, he is flat out robbing them lol He shouldn’t be making more than minimum now.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
GOOD NEWS for the Bucs….. The less money they have to pay Mo next season the less they are being robbed….. Maybe this will inspire the Glazer boys to offer more money for a QUALITY HC this go around!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I think he gets his full contract either way but the Bucs would only be responsable for the difference between $2m and what ever the Skins offer.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
jarrett Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
joe he does not lose his 2 million if he coaches for the skins,raheem will make his 2 million no matter what,but the glazers can minus his salary with the skins from the 2 mill. so in short if he makes a million from the skins the glazers only owe him 1 million
@ jarrett, this is exactly correct. I am not sure why people don’t understand this still. Essentially the Glazers (if they can’t opt out) guarantee Ra $2 mil, if another team pays him $1 mil, then they owe $1 mil. I’m pretty positive thatr’s how it worked with Gruden and MNF. If Gruden had signed a 5 year – $25 mil dollar deal when he was fired the Glazers would owe nothing. It just states that said individual will make agreed upon money for that contract either by the Bucs, someone else, or any combination.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
The part of this that sucks is laron landry washington safety who is a lynch thpe physical player is a fa this season and im sure morris will try to throw the brinks truck at him.he would help us ALOT!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
The skins are getting close to turning things around. They have done a rebuild too, with some good young players. All they really need is a good QB and they are close IMO.
Played hard every game and competed all year.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I like this…if I were Dominick, I would call up Bruce and work a trade…Black for a 4th rounder. It would get us back a 4th.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Wonder if Johnson could be traded to the Skins…they have good luck with our QBs…actually, we do with theirs as well (both named Johnson!)
January 5th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Patrick and Jarrett you lame brains.
Your understanding of a TYPICAL nfl head coaching “guarantee” is how you understand it – meaning if you are terminated you get the guaranteed portion paid out consistent with the contract term and: it is usually offset by any “coaching” income you earn from another coaching job. So yes, typically, if you have a 2 million guarantee and take another coaching job for 1.5 to mitigate your damages, the former organization makes up the difference.
However, ask yourself this: if you could make 2 million dollars for working your a– off in a lesser position that does not allow you the opportunity to earn outside consulting or broadcast income; or you could make 2 million dollars for not working at all for that year and still have the opportunity to earn more in consulting and/or broadcast money (because not deducted from coaching contract) – what option would you take?
Most would take option 2 like Gruden did. I agree that Rah will not have much opportunity in broadcasting but he could have marketed himself for a year and negotiated his best gig while still collecting the 2 million salary.
What prior sources have indicated is that Rah’s remaining year was a club option year (meaning no guaranteed money) so the Glazers didnt owe him anything on next season.
None of us know for sure unless you have read the contract itself. I havent and you havent. However, it was reported earlier this year that 2012 for Rah was not guaranteed, then it was reported that it was.
Now I am hearing it wasnt which would explain in part why Rah was let go much more easily than Dom, and why Rah rushed to take another much lower position.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Now as for Ronde:
Please read carefully. I am not commenting on the propriety of Ronde being paid 7-8 million for one year, I agree that would be too much.
John Lynch reported that Tony Gonzalez got a 1 year 7 million deal next year from the Falcons and Arthur Blank, and Lynch said that he felt Ronde was entitled to a similar type deal from the Bucs.
The Glazers will NEVER pay that.
Daniel Snyder wipes his a– with the difference between what the Glazers would offer 3-4 million and what Ronde will ask for 7-8 million, so with his buddy Rah there and very close to his hometown – Ronde might be able to get Snyder to overpay him for a 1 year deal (Ronde and his agent will argue for 2).
Fellas – put on your thinking caps. Put on some big boy clothes.
These are not certainties but are hypotheses and reasonable inferences based on the facts.
I want Ronde to stay for another year; I would be comfortable with a 1 year 5 million dollar deal for him to play the boundary and nickel in passing downs, I know that he is gone if Rah helps recruit him for Snyder – I hope that doesnt happen.
I want Talib cut yesterday!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
I am not saying Ronde is worth 7-8 million.
Lynch said that Ronde deserved a similar deal to Tony Gonzalez; 1 year 7 million for next year – I think that is a little high – but that is peanuts to Daniel Snyder. Rah may recruit Ronde back home.
I hope Ronde stays for at least 1 more and retires a buc and that the Glazers offer him a nice deal.
The Glazers will NEVER pay 7 mill so there is a risk that Ronde finishes his career elsewhere – DC is now a perfect fit.
Use your brains fellas.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
@Thomas
For someone who throws out unsubstantiated comments around regularly; I would suggest you refrain from calling anyone a lame brain or any attempt at an insult period. I’m not getting into stupid message board hate so I will leave it at that. We don’t know each other in any way other than a screen name and what we say on this board.
I put in my comments “if:” the Glazers can’t opt out. Yes I’ve read many pro contracts but not Gruden’s nor Ra’s. I took my LSAT’s years ago but decided not to attend law school at the time. My Father owns a law firm up north that deals with a lot of the contracts in the professional ranks (players, coaches, etc.) and entertainment. While I was interning (clerking) I had to read over the contracts to find if there were any errors that I could identify among other things.
No one is really sure about Gruden’s deal with the Glazers and MNF as I stated. People that are qualified have said they would be surprised if he was able to fully collect on both contracts. You are correct from coaching change to coaching change and how the monies as Jarrett and I said earlier.
If Ra is owed $2 mil next year and he decided to sit out the year and collect it, I’m sure that his next potential NFL/College employer would raise a flag on that or at least ask for a detailed explanation as to why. He’s young (no pun intended), failed as a head coach so he needs to start immediately to work his way back up from the bottom if that’s what he wants. I think Ra actually loves coaching and wouldn’t want to miss a year. He’s reportedly been given a nice opportunity by the Redskins; I wish him the best.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Take them all, Raheem!
The idea of facing a secondary coached by Raheem Morris doesn’t scare anyone. Unless they allow guns on the field.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
patrick thanks for stating that and thomas im pretty sure lame brain was not called for since noone said anything to you. What i said is correct ,if bucs had a opt out im not sure about it. what i said though is the norm for fired coaches that still have years remaining. once again lame brain not needed.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Oh and thomas ask yourself this, would a real lawyer have enough time to post 50 plus comments a day on a team message board.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Thomas 2.2 Rah has one more year guaranteed at 2 million. Dom’s contract was extended in 2011 for 4 more years. I would imagine its guaranteed money.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
MikeW you are right I heard on Shawn Kings show the Glazers would be responsible for the difference between the 2 million guaranteed and whatever he signs for with the skins. More money for Jeff Fisher!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I’ve warned you guys about listening to Thomas 2.2. Thomas is a fraud. I seriously doubt that he is a lawyer as he says or he would know better than to make a statement about coaches contracts that are governed by the NFL Office unlike player contracts that are governed by the CBA. Below is a link to an expert who has worked in the NFL Office and specializes in contracts. See the section on coaches contracts.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Postseason-not-about-the-money.html
January 5th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
DOM should have to give back his salary.
He needs to show me something this offseason.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Thomas is not a fraud.
He is consistent as the day is long.
DOM IS A FRAUD, I BELIEVE ATLANTA IS PAYING HIM MORE TO HOLD THE BUCS BACK.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
@Macabee:
Thank you for the great article, as I stated before I knew these things from actual professionals in the industry. I wasn’t just stating something I didn’t know.
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Very interseting point and paragraph:
These offset clauses can create some sticky situations. First, a coach is required to use “due diligence” to obtain another position, something hard to prove and/or enforce when a coach prefers to wait for a better offer or not work at all rather than taking what he may consider an undesirable opportunity.
Everyone tries to say that the Glazers paid $5 million a year the last 3 years and I’ve said they most likely have not. Gruden could have coaching opportunities to take their obligations off of the books. MNF probaly pays at least $2.5-$3 million a year maybe more, the Glazers attorney’s were all over not paying out the $5 million a year believe me.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
If Ronde Left for the Redskins,
I would LOVE to see him get $7-8 Million.
Aint Gonna Happen,
Even with Snyder.
Rah is good friends with Ronde, but would give $7-8 Million to Aqib first.
And…
Ronde may have been from Virginia
but Tampa has been his home for past 15 years
January 5th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
The salary compensation differential applies if the Coach remains an NFL Team employee. Gruden is not employed by the NFL or a Team. I bet the Glazers paid every last dime of that contract. If it was a problem or if there was a dispute, it would have landed in court or we would have heard about it. The real question is whether Chucky had direct deposit or not. There is always the negotiated buyout option like with injured players.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
If Rah becomes the Skins’ DB Coach, I’m sure they will all forget how to tackle.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Good for Rah! He deserves the job.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
MIKE ZIMMER
January 5th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I wish Rah the best. I think he likes D Back coaching also.
Very few head coaches with guaranteed money coming the next year pounce on a much lower paying, much lower position, 3 days after being fired.
You guys act as if you read thd contract. Fact is: none of us have. The fact that he took this lower level job suggests, but doesnt prove, that he did not have the guarantee as was first reported and then changed.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I’ll bet he excels. And yes, I’m glad he’s gone.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Joe here,
@Thomas 2.2. — You leave out the possiblity that the Skins offer Raheem, for example, a three-year $4 million deal to be assistant head coach/defensive backs coach. Then it’s a situation of scoring more guaranteed money, versus just sitting on the $2 million. There are so many variables. And you’re correct, nobody has seen his Bucs contract. But Raheem’s a very young guy in the coaching world and is in a unique situation. There haven’t been many, if any, 35 year olds with three years head coaching experience.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
@BigMacAttack Says:
Most claims like these would be negoiated between the parties attorney’s or at worst a mediator. You wouldn’t hear about it as it’s normally sealed and the Bucs are not a public company… or at least you shouldn’t. Lane Kiffin and the Raiders are in court because the raiders refuse to pay him for insorbination or somthing like that so it’s gone tp court.
First, a coach is required to use “due diligence” to obtain another position… He could have gained employemnet at a major college or pro team, he didn’t. He choose MNF, which is why they most likely came to an agreement.
Who knows for sure, but my money is on a MNF/Glazer combination and that’s not just my opmion.
The main point I was trying to make is everyone keeps saying the Glazers paid out all this money for Gruden and Allen over the last 3 years and now Morris possibly. I think they paid a relatively small amont, maybe 25%-50% of the reported monies due. The Glazers didn’t become multi billionaires by paying full price and not having the best legal/contracts team money can buy..