The Dominik-Schottenheimer Connection
January 10th, 2012
As notorious winner/choker Mary Schottenheimer/Chokenheimer sits down with Team Glazer and Mark Dominik to talk all things Bucs football and head coaching today, Joe is lost in wonder at the what the history is between the rockstar GM and the head coach who consistently takes his teams to playoffs but stumbles in big games.
Dominik was a youngster entering the NFL with the Chiefs when Schottenheimer was head coach there. Joe suspects the two had some sort of interaction back in the day that left a positive, indelible impression on Dominik, who has spoken fondly of the relationships he formed in the Chiefs organization.
Perhaps it was Dominik that reached out to Schottenheimer for the Bucs gig? Joe has no clue. Perhaps the 68-year-old coach told his agent to “call the eager kid that used to fetch my game film.” Again, Joe’s just guessing.
But if the old guy wants to return, and the Bucs are set on scoring a proven leader with a pile of gravitas who can also build a coaching tree (Tony Dungy, Bill Cowher and Herm Edwards coached under Schottenheimer), then Joe’s hard pressed to think of a better candidate in that mold.
January 10th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I dream of seeing Blount playing MartyBall!!
January 10th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Shott has a number of quality coaches under his wing..Wade Phillips being another one.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Coaching_Trees.GIF
January 10th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Schottenheimer or Billick…someone who knows how to be a CEO of an organization.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
okay ! I’ve had enough…just sign the old mo fo’er up !!!
January 10th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
@ Buc Fan South
Marty’s Coaching FOREST! Jiminy Christmas! Hes got more connections than the Corleones.
@ Sooner
CEO is the operative word! It’s hard to project what these coordinators will do in a new role. Some people give orders. Some people lead. We need a leader!
January 10th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Nice research mr. Joe
January 10th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Anyone of you who say Marty would be a good hire has lost their mind. Hes old and been out of coaching for five years. Why do you think he hasnt interviewed with any other team since then? Because people know hes washed up. The owners are so out of touch with this league that they still think Marty is a hot commodity..pathetic. Im embarassed to be a bucs fan under this joke of an ownership.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Yawn.
Come on, is this the best that we can expect?
Old Guy looking for one last pay check who’ll leave us with his son when he is done.
Next…
January 10th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Maybe Marty and Dom share the same agent.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@mtm na thats Dom and mike sherman
January 10th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
According to Joe, the line organization at One Buc is Joel glazer is chairman, and Mark Dominik is CEO. The new coach will report to and take orders from Mark Dominik. Now as I recall Schottenheimer is a combative, cantankerous sort ala General Patton. Sherman seems more like the statesman that would be more agreable to compromise. I’ll take Marty, but this could be interesting!
January 10th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Not like this is the ms universe pageant.
More like picking the most beautiful girl on a west Virginia girls softball team.
As luck would have it looks like slim pickings.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
“Hes old and been out of coaching for five years”…
perfect fit…
the franchise has been out of football for 5 years…
January 10th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
This is off topic but what do you think about drafting Cliff Harris, the former DB out of Oregon. I would take him in the 5th round and hope he matures properly. His talent would outweigh his off field issues in the 5th round. The kid is a shut down type DB and IF he stays out of trouble I think he would be a Mike Williams 4th round type steal. What are your thoughts Joe??? And don’t just dismiss it because he has a bad/immature driving record.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
In business, companies that have been through hard times and have tried the new youngry CEO to try and capture the youth market always go back to the elder statesmen to right the ship. The Glazers’ might not be the greatest sports franchise owners but Malcolm built a juggernaut business empire way before moving into sports, business wise they know what they are doing, who here has built a multi-national, multi-billion dollar business.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
hehehehe…God, I love this.
I would take Marty over Sherman, but prefer neither. If Marty were younger? Maybe.
The fact that he’s been out for 5 years does make a difference. The game has changed a lot in that short time. I think it was John Lynch who said this year that if he were still playing, he would never get paid because of the fines on hitting.
But no matter. There’s a head-turning interview coming up soon…probably next week.
BTW, grats to Tim for beating the Steelers. Not bad for a kid everyone claimed would never succeed in the NFL.
January 10th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Hey Joe! What’s wrong with a little ditty on Mr Rich Basaccia. A sit down with the hire ups can’t hurt, he knows this team as much as anybody, has pull (by tenure, 30 years!) in the league to swipe up some OC and DC talent, won’t cost an arm and leg, has shown he can whip young little punks into shape and discipline with the best special teams groups the past few years, will bring back fan base (who didn’t like him here?)??? Come on Why not? Almost everyone on here is not liking the re-tread idea. How bout some fresh, aggressive, no-nonsense, a good OC or DC could take over if he fails, kinda guy, who hasn’t been fired out of the league a few times already?? Just asking.
January 10th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I just read on bleacher report that they have us drafting Morris Claiborne with the 5th pick in the draft. And also call him an “instant star on an improving defense”. I hope this is how it goes down at pick #5. Claiborne is the perfect player for our D. Anyone D for that much. But I would love this. The only thing better is to trade down to a team like the Dolphins at pick #9. IF we could get their 1st, 2nd, and 4th to do it. And say a 2nd next year as well. I would be all over it!! The only team that would look at Claiborne from pick 6-8 would possibly be Jacksonville. So there is a chance Claiborne could still be there at pick 9 in this scenario and we still get him plus all the other picks we desperatly need to add to help out our team. You can never have too many early picks in the draft. And to have pick #5 and #9 in the second round is a great start. If Claiborne is gone at pick #9 then draft Courtney Upshaw out of Alabama and then get LaMichael James with the 1st second round pick and one of the top Safeties in the draft with pick #9 in the second round!! Instantly improves our D and gives us that much needed speedster coming out of the backfield!!!
January 10th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
@A Real Buc Fan
But no matter. There’s a head-turning interview coming up soon…probably next week.
We are all ready having those, what we need is a HOPE turning interview, got one of those?
January 10th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
As I’ve said before, we (Bucs) shouldn’t settle for a coach. Certainly I would like to think we will interview more than 3 people. Just because us fans want to know, badly, whom the next coach should be, doesn’t mean we take the most popular name of yesteryear and anoint him coach.
This is a progressive, passing league and the mindset of smashmouth, pound the rock just doesn’t hold water anymore. The Patriots and Packers are #2 and 3 respectively in total offense and #31 AND 32 IN DEFENSE – BEHIND the Bucs at #30. Saints are #1 in offense and #24 in defense. See the trend?
So please Bucs, no Marty-ball, run first garbage. We are not a run first team.
Progressive, innovative offensive-minded coach with a disciplined approach, and get us Spagnuola or Del Rio as DC before it’s too late.
January 10th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@ jarret where did you get your facts ? Marty just won the 2011 UFL championship with a fricken expansion team, the virginia destoyers ! are you kidding…The man can flat out coach and kick butt…..I will take 2 losing seasons out of 21 seasons anyday.
January 10th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I agree! He may never take us to a Super Bowl, but he could be Dungy like and at least right the sinking ship. That’s all I’m looking for right now!
January 10th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Thanks for not elevating my blood Pressure by absurdly calling dom rockstar! 🙂
January 10th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I take it back, I missed it. Sad
January 10th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
@A REAL BUCS FAN
Who are you talking about?
January 10th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
220 over 146…..that not good Thomas…..think happy thoughts….breath into the bag…. now repeat…Dom IS a rockstar, Dom IS a rockstar…..Dom IS a rockstar…..see?? Feeling better already huh?
January 10th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
At the very least, can’t joe at least say “pop star” or “opera star” or “ballet star” or “figure skating star.”. All WAY more applicable to Dom than rock star.
January 10th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
JOe here,
@Bucs4755 – The Glazers and Dominik know all about Bisaccia. They passed him over three years ago when he was assistant head coach. Obviously, there’s something that makes them think he’s not head coach material. No slight on Bisaccia. Some guys aren’t cut out for it. He might be, but he’s surely unproven. Knowing the roster is meaningless. The new head coach can watch every snap of every player on the roster in 2 weeks with the technology available.
January 10th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Joe,
Thanks. Couple of things though…I thought he was blocked during an off season from interviewing for the reason they didn’t want him going anywhere? And didn’t he leave because Raheem was hired? It is wierd to me that he was labeled assist HC and then Raheem became HC from backs coach. Maybe a Dominic -vs- Bisaccia thing? anyway thanks for the knowledge….I just hope for the BEST choice in all this mess and a follow through with the process of “an exhaustive search”-Glazer! Oh and a less embarrassing 2012 season PLEASE! GO BUCS!!!!!
January 10th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Joe here,
@Bucs4575 – I’m sure they didn’t want him to leave, but that doesn’t mean they wanted him as head guy. Again, they hired Raheem at 32 years old over Bisaccia. Both guys were in the building and Raheem would have been more than happy to be defensive coordinator.
January 10th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Guys, there’s nothing wrong with having a 68 year old coach running the team for 3 years or so. He’s just coming off a UFL championship….worthless, yes, but he’s been in the game.
After Shotty is done, the Bucs will be a solid contender and ready to be taken over by someone to lead us into the future.
An experienced, seasoned hand at the wheel is what this team needs. We’ve had men over 68 running the country – this is not near as compliacted
January 10th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Actually we have a DB that is damn near his age……
January 10th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Ok….I’m sorry Ronde…. I couldn’t resist.
January 10th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Biasaccia was going to command head coach money.
Rah Rah took a contract paying chucky cheeese tokens and weekly back massages from mark dom (which dom weirdly threw in to the deal).
Turns out: the Glazers over paid.
January 10th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
It is said the entire population of Sun City Center’s Senior Citizens will turn out and buy seasons tickets if Marty Schottenheimer is chosen to coach Tampa.
Probably because many seniors remember just how good a coach he was.
I like him the most of any coach we have looked at, so far.
But one poster pointed out that he might clash with Mark Dominik, IF not given total control over player procurement.
I think if the Glazers hire him, and give him control over what players we get, he will rebuild Tampa into a winner again.
And many crybabies and quitters will soon find themselves unemployed, because Marty don’t play.
January 10th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I think Quicken Loans hired Raheem. As I drove to my business this morning I heard them talking about a ‘yorgage’….
Anyway, I think Marty is the best of all the tested candidates they’ve interviewed so far. I would like to see an up and coming coordinator get a shot but it’s not going to happen right now. After this team is seasoned and disciplined then maybe..but not now.
January 10th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Wasn’t Dom merely washing jock straps when he was in KC?
I doubt that Marty had any clue who the jock scrubber was. But nice try Joe.
January 10th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTxdE96AVds&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Check out the answer to the question around 50 seconds in….I think that may have just sealed the deal for me. Make it happen (as long as his arrogant dick of a son stays in NY) lol
January 10th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Boy, memories are really short around here. Raheem got the nod because of the verbal promises made to him in order to get him back here to coach our secondary.
Back then he was considered the best at his job, and a real up and comer.
He STILL is considered an up and comer. He just went to the top too quickly. A few years as a DC probably would have been better for him. One day, I believe he’ll get another chance and do well.
January 10th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Oh, and Biasaccia was peeved over it.
@destinedbuc32
All I have are suspicions and two names…and I like both (as I think everyone will). But given the way things are going in the search so far, I don’t want to jinx things.
January 10th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
A Real Buc:
Rah got the job bc he took it for pennies on the dollar. They only offered pennies on the dollar bc he was unqualified.
Rah’s 3 years destroyed our franchise to the point that they were down 41-0 to the Falcons before halftime. A team that scored 2 offensive points the following week against the Falcons.
Rah got hired bc he was cheap, that decision set us back years, if you try to justify you expose your idiocy.
January 10th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Against the Giants