“Defense, Discipline & Accountability”
January 22nd, 2012
Among other revelations, Bucs G Davin Joseph explains what he wants in the next Bucs head coach.
So how would Davin Joseph profile a new Bucs head coach?
Well, the Bucs’ lone Pro Bowler gave a bit of a surprising response Friday during an interview on The Dan Sileo Show on WDAE-AM 620.
In what almost felt like a knock on Raheem Morris, Joseph said,”We need a defense first guy that brings discipline and accountibility to everybody, with no exceptions, no exceptions for quarterbacks, not exceptions for whoever.”
Hearing that, Joe thinks it’s a pretty safe bet that Joseph was used to seeing “exceptions” granted around Raheem’s locker room.
One Buccaneer who fans often think of as a guy that got some special treatment, from an allegedly questionable attitude to limited practicing, is Kellen Winslow, Jr. But Joseph lauded Winslow as one who stepped up during the Bucs’ late-season struggles.
“You saw Kellen Winslow really playing harder, playing with more effort. But it just wasn’t a whole group of guys. It wasn’t like we saw a big group of guys take over and say, ‘hey, this is how we’re going to play,’ Joseph said. “Even Elbert Mack, I was really proud of him to see how he stepped up. And so we had individuals that would make big plays and be consistent, and really go out there and show signs of great football. But for whatever reason we didn’t have the group of guys, we didn’t have the whole squad go out there and just play hard and consistent.”
Joesph went on to say he knows there will be significant changes to the Bucs’ roster but he wasn’t ready to give up on many of the Bucs’ younger players. He said it will be an exciting 2012 training camp seeing teammates “prove themselves all over again.”
“We have enough tough guys to make it, guys like Gerald McCoy,” Joseph said.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
DJ is a cool dude and is right on with his POV.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Geno Hayes, Sean Jones, Kellen Winslow have to go. Along with about 6 other players
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
Davin Joseph is a great run blocker.
I intended to listen to Dan Silly O the other day, but missed it this interview.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Same sh different day
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
‘…with no exceptions, no exceptions for quarterbacks, not exceptions for whoever…’ That’s not a ringing endorsement for #5 and his work habits. Interesting that he called out Free there and it’s the first time anyone has mentioned Free in a negative way.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Agreed tampa2 Aqib Talib included.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
words like pride and great dont apply to the 2011 bucs.
perhaps a spoon full of zimmer is needed ?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I too like what I’m hearing from DJ. But one thing bothers me a little.
K2 played harder? Harder than what? what he did before?
He still made far too many key penalties at the worst of times and I think he’s part of the problem, certainly not worthy of carrying the flag as the leader of the team during player introductions.
Also, did he not say it would “ruin” the Buccaneers if his pal Raheem got canned?
He has to go IMO.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
I agree Garv. When I watch Jimmy Graham, that is my idea of a dominant tight end. BTW, we passed on him in the draft too.
K2 does not block well, and that’s a big No No on a team that imagines itself as having a power running game.
I have never heard Freeman called out before, this might get interesting ?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Apple,grahmn is grahmn cause of brees.free would overthrow him 5 times a game if he was on the 2011 squad.i think we fix that position in fa this year.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Freeman needed to be called out for accountability on the field, I’m guessing not so much for disciplinary reasons. Maybe? He did sometimes act like a chump, occasionally calling out other players when he appeared to be at fault.
What about accountability? Freeman should’ve been called out for several things: the extra chub he put on his waist, his lack of tucking and running for first downs, checking down in the middle of the field in two minute drills, and his insistence to stare down and throw to Winslow every freaking time he needed a clutch play. What else? There’s more.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
So Davin defends Winslow by saying he played harder than anyone else (which is true) and basically hints at the fact that Freeman got away with murder (another fact) and yet K2 is being attacked.
If all of our players played as hard as Winslow did this year, we wouldn’t be where we are now.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
For quarterbacks? Interesting.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Nothing that we didnt already know. Raheem had his favorites and there was no accountability. Glad that Davin is becoming a face of the team and had the guts to call out Freeman. Now lets get a no-nonsense, in your face coach in here to show these young NFL playas what it’s really like to be a proffessional NFL player.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I think Freeman did try harder. So did Winslow.
But here’s the thing. Some people take this to mean they were not trying hard before…while it could mean they tried harder than certain other players.
While the final roster for next year depends on the new coaching staff, on the surface I don’t feel for a minute that Winslow should go. If, after we get a new OC and Winslow simply does not fit in, then fine, get rid of him.
But I think he should stay and be made to practice more. It is no coincidence that most of Freeman’s picks were to Winslow. I see two main reasons for that:
1) The time Winslow spent out of practice caused him to develop poor pass catching habits
2) Freeman showed frustration on the field and took too many chances. He let his emotions take over.
The way I see it, Freeman only trusted Winslow and Parker. One caused interceptions and the other caused fumbles.
One good thing about a new coaching staff…all the players will be trying to impress the new coach.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
@joe.. Do the Glazers and Dominick conduct interviews on the weekend? The lack of news about the coaching search is really frustrating. Articles about players, ex coaches, draft are interesting but really hard to get into until we know who will be leading our squad. I just don’t understand why the owners can’t share more with a frustrated fan base. Letting us know who’s been eliminated, who their considering for a second interview, future possible candidates, and an estimated timeline, is not too much to ask for… IMO..
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Brad, it looks like they have already chosen Mike Sherman, and are now trying to make it “look good”.
Notice no one else in the NFL is interviewing Sherman, most likely because they KNOW ?
Sherman and Dom have the same Agent.
Regardless of the fact I wanted Marty very badly, I can be OK with Sherman, especially with Chilly as O Coordinator.
And as much as I “hate” the Rockstar sometimes, I can’t say I blame him for wanting to be comfortable with the new coach he hires.
Sherman and Chilly will bring years of experience to Tampa, and can help Mark with talent evaluation.
We can’t help but get better.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
sherm is reported to be under strong consideration for fins oc.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
@apple.. I pray your wrong. I can’t think of any two coaches that would bring less excitement than Sherman and Chilly. I hope the Glazers are smarter than that and hire a coach that is best for the team not one that is best to work with Dominick. And if the Glazers are as cheap ( I don’t buy that unless they ignore FA this year) as everyone thinks they are I can’t believe they would waste time and money to just fool people. The Glazers have to know hiring Sherman would alienate a dwindling fanbase even more. Of the candidates that are known I’d take Marty, Zimmer, Clements…
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
BREAKING NEWS: The bucs will interview Joe paterno tomorrow!
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
DJ is one of the few true pros on the 2011 team. I am glad that exposed the problem with rah-Dom regime that I was arguing with you sheep about for 3 years.
First no discipline, then selective discipline which destroys a team. The second Rah sent Price to the showers for doing something Talib has done repeatedly without penalty – it exposed how clueless rah was.
This team needs the weeds pulled (K2, Talib, THC, Black, Hayes, Biggers, Jones). Then some real discipline.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
clayburn94 you realize Paterno is dead right thats a little low. I mean if you aim to be funny at least have a little creativity stepping on a deadmans toes the day he dies isn’t exactly stepping into the cage with a lion to prove your brave. who knows the next news you hear breaking might be your glassjaw.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Oh Clayburn….
Thats just WRONG..
But funny as hell!!!!!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Brad, I totally agree brother, but seriously, it is looking like Sherman.
I can just hear the Rockstar now at the press conference introducing Sherman, telling how Tampa “left no stone unturned” in their search for the best coach for Tampa.
Dam it, I wanted Marty (still do)
And, whoever you are, that was totally tasteless about Joe Paterno, please edit that chit Joe. Heck, we fight, argue, and disagree here all the time. Sports Fans do that. But as a rule, we don’t stoop to cheap shots about Football Legends who just died.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
maybe if dj didnt have so many movement flags we would not be looking for coach, he gave up like the rest of them
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
@ClayBURN94 Too soon?
@Thomas 2.2 Biggers a weed? You recommend Mack and Lewis man the corners? Did you watch Lewis play at all this year? I hope Barber doesn’t retire then.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
cmon now if were gonna hire dead guys Bring back John mckay.
he wouldnt put up with any k2 crap.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Joe here,
@Brad – To answer your question, the Bucs have stuck to a policy of not commenting on the coaching search.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
@ apple
football “legends” who apparently care more about keeping their defense intact, than coming to the aid of young boys getting sodomized. he coached for over 40 years and won national championships, so who cares if he was completely devoid of morals and similar human characteristics???
get off your high horse.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
id need a EKG to accept that Mike Sherman is alive
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Jeez guys loosen up a little, i respect him because he was one of the best college football coaches to ever live. With that being said RIP Joe Pa
January 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
No Lewis is below a weed (he is a non-factor). Actually Mack way outplayed Toast Biggers. Trust me, I am no E Mack supporter, but you must credit a player when he performs – mack did and was one of 2 or 3 players who had a good season. No despite the marketing ploy – 4 games, 10 tackles, 1 sack – is not progression by the big disappointment.
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Northend Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Apple,grahmn is grahmn cause of brees.free would overthrow him 5 times a game if he was on the 2011 squad.i think we fix that position in fa this year.
You don’t overthrow 6’8”.
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
eric, where did you hear Sherman was “under strong consideratin for Fins OC? I hope he does go there. Bucs do not need him at all. Hire Marty.
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
@apple.. I more concerned with where you heard the Bucs were going from Sherman. If just from guys from ESPN I’m not buying it..
@Joe. I know the owners have beem tight lipped about previous coaching searches but thought with the state of the franchise and the fact they are looking at everything they do as an organization they would share more with a disgruntled fanbase.
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
the Bucs players better get into the weight room! they are getting tossed around and man handled.
they don’t even have “man muscles” yet. Hit the WEIGHTS –> Trent Richardson can show them how to do that.
he would be the strongest man in the team as a ROOKIE !!!!!!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
wisconsin buc
@profootballtalk and rick strouds tweet.
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@Brad the only reason why i think the Glazers are so tight lipped about what there doing is theres something going on(saving money and not spending) that they dont want us to know about. Thats the only thing i can think of because that show they dont gove a damn about the fans.
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Sorry for the misspellings on the iphone lol
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
eric, thank-you
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Congrats to Blount in winning the best play of the year on Fox. But we have no talent I hear..
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
@Apple
Sherman is rumored to be going to Miami to be OC.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Dom is probably trying to talk “”low dollar ” Sherm into being the OC and DC also. And there may still be a cheaper old guy out there than Sherm. If he has Head coaching experience, there can sell him as Legit.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
theres not even any unfounded speculation out there as to the identity of tbe lucky finalists.
huge letdown forthcoming.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
I still dont get why so many buc fans think this is sime big conspiracy with the coaching search.we spent tip dollar on gruden And never had a problem spending on free agents.itwasnt until we entered cap hell rhat we had to dial it back.i realize last year was different with hardly any signings but moving foward i think we will be fine.i had 4 club seats for over a decade and up until recently have not had issue with product ownership was paying for.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Northend:
The entire Gru/allen termination only to replace them with 2 cheap incompetent kids (then releasing all high paid players)was totally a cost-savings move.
A credible sounding source on talk radio said that the team’s general counsel under allen told him that the Gru-allen firing came bc they refused to take the salary cap any lower after taking it down some 30 million previously.
We have been 32nd in player salaries since manu. The Glazers are spread thin and the volume of the whispers about a possible sale are getting louder.
I believe the Glazers will spend some money on a coach and players bc if they do want to sell – they team’s value went down (one of just a few) since the rah dom nightmare.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
@thomas.. Time will tell and the time is now. If they go with a cheap coach and don’t spend a buttload in FA, I’m on board with you. A sale is imminent. That sale would take place next year when they will be forced to spend. The boys will have nowhere to hide if they don’t spend now. The first sign other than the lack of going after FA’s was keeping a GM that has failure all over his resume.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
When DJ spoke about accountability he meant the GM’s lack of it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Cancelling london game i think is a step the right way.pat y had a good write up about glazers starting to listen to us the fans.i do agree a little cash for some much needed fa this spring will show us even more.i am not as worried about spending a butt load on a coach.fisher was wayyyy over paid for a “sexy” pick.just get someone good,marty,zimmer,fangio even sherman i dont have issue with
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Just saw multiple twitters bucs finalizing with chip kelly.holy sh$&
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Bleacher report reports
Bucs close to signing a deal with chip kelly.