Is The Schottenheimer Writing On The Wall?
January 11th, 2012
Late Tuesday night, the New York Jets announced that embattled offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer will not return to the team for the 2012 season, that he turned in his resignation.
For those unaware, Schottenheimer is the son of Marty Schottenheimer, erstwhile Bucs coach.
The younger Schottenheimer was essentially the Raheem Morris of New York sports talk radio in that fans railed against him so much bonfires were nearly lit at Giants Stadium.
Jets fans were outraged over not just the Jets playcalling, but how quarterback Mark Sanchise, drafted in the same first round as Bucs quarterback Josh Freeman, steadily got worse and didn’t improve. Sanchise has sunk so low that sober minds in Gotham talked openly about getting a new starting quarterback.
So, Joe asks a few questions:
Is this a sign that the elder Schottenheimer is on his way to Tampa Bay? Schottenheimer has said he is meeting with Team Glazer for a second round of talks.
Will the younger Schottenheimer join his dad with the Bucs?
Should Freeman be frightened?
Conspiracy theorists and crystal ball types, REACT!
January 11th, 2012 at 1:00 am
I have no problem with B.Schottenheimer coming here under his father.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Oh God please no!!
*Channeling Vader* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
January 11th, 2012 at 1:02 am
Jets red zone offense this year was one of the best in the league. 13th in overall scoring. I will take that.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Schottenheimers vs. the Shannahans that should be the marquee matchup of the 2012 season, no not really
January 11th, 2012 at 1:04 am
I think I read somewhere that Schottenheimer the Younger is headed to the U of Florida as OC.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:05 am
As long as its MARTY BALL im all for it!!
January 11th, 2012 at 1:10 am
Find it hard to believe that is a coincidence.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:11 am
Like I said, ANYTHING is better than Olson. Anything. Freeman is a far better QB than Sanchez and has twice the talent. I’ve heard rough things about Brian, but if it will bring Marty here, then I don’t really care. If Marty wants to have his 3 year old grandchild coach the offense in order to come be head coach here I’m all for it.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:12 am
I like this move, with the addition of a big time DC.
Betcha if Rockstar Coach CHOKENHEIMER comes on board:
1.Talib cut
2. Hayneswurf gone
3. Ronde back
4. with the 5th pick of the draft…. Trent Richardson
5. Bucs add 2 key free agents
January 11th, 2012 at 1:12 am
With his father running things I suspect things would be different. Besides, I thought the QB coach developed Sanchez?
I would hope Marty, who excels at developing players and COACHES could turn Brian into the perfect heir.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Scoring 2 TDs in the first quarter will be a 100% improvement.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Macabee:
Nope. Gators hired Boise State’s offensive coordinator.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:18 am
@ Steve K, I agree with all of that! The only thing is that I have to believe if we cut Talib we’ll be really inclined to draft Claiborne and try to get Lamichael James later.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Im just hoping if Marty is hired we dont have to wait till Friday after phillips is interviewed. Ugh
January 11th, 2012 at 1:39 am
GREAT now on tbo they are reporting Childress is still in town… Smh just hire someone already!!
January 11th, 2012 at 1:45 am
I’ll take Brian Schottenheimer ten times over Greg Olson. Don’t be fooled by what happened in New York. Sanchez makes it impossible to run a functioning offense. The nuts are running the nut house up there in NY and Brian jumped off before the ship has completely sunk.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Wow. BALLGAME. Marty Ball aka Dungy Ball 2.0!
I just punched up PFT, saw this story, then came rushing over here to see if you had anything up. Excellent work Joes!!!
25th, 26th, 16th, 20th, 11th, 25th were the ranks of Brian’s offenses while with the Jets…THIS is why I intially wasn’t too enamored with hiring Marty. Everybody knows that he was going to hire his son to run the offense and probably his brother to coach special teams.
He’s going to be a CEO-type coach at this point in his career so it’s imperative that he bring in a ridiculously good defensive coordinator or it’s going to be an extremely short stay for him.
I don’t have much hope that Brian is going to miraculously improve the above numbers and make us a top 5 offense but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt because of the Chad Pennington, old Brett Favre, Kellen Clements, Eric Ainge, Mark Sanchez pu pu platter he had to work with while he was with the Jets.
Good luck! Go Bucs!
January 11th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Talib could end up staying if he beats the charges. Marty might want a shot @ tusrning him around.
He wouldn’t get more than one shot with Marty though.
I’m curious who Marty would pick as DC. He and Herm have a relationship but Herm makes me nervous after hearing him talk about the rule changes.
A lot of staff to gather.
I would love Clements as OC and Brian as TE/Asst. HC COACH.A HC is just a title that could get Brian a HC gig elsewhere if Marty succeeds.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Thanks Sensiblebuuc.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:55 am
ClayBURN94:
Chilly is working in town for the next couple of weeks. He’s coaching a team in the East-West Shrine game at the Fruitdome next week.
January 11th, 2012 at 1:59 am
Brian Schottenheimer will do a better job than Olson, you can count on that. My only hope is that they convinced Mike Nolan to be our new DC. That guy can put together some tough tough defenses and I’d be excited as all get-out to have the two Schotty’s plus Nolan running things. The only thing better is if Sherman agreed to be OC under Marty. Now that would be a dream come true right there.
January 11th, 2012 at 2:33 am
Marty has my full support if he gets hired! So does any coach that comes here.
But please do not hire Childress!
Sherman is ok and I’m not afraid of him like all of y’all are. By reading comments on here and all the other message boards, Half of Tampa would be on suicide watch if Sherman was the guy. Geez.
Wade Philips…..I like the guy. Good overall record as a coach but too much of a nice guy and not what I would call a disciplinarian. The defensive scheme might not fit our guys.
Plus he had a pretty ugly departure from Dallas. The calls for him to be fired were far worse than the ones for Raheem.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Add me to those that are impressed with how quickly you got this story up. Read it at PFT and was thinking you would have something later today….
Two thoughts: It’s hard to believe this is a coincidence.
I would put up with losing if the players at least looked interested, I’m guessing with Marty ball we’ll at least get some basics such as attempting to tackle, finishing plays etc.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Bring in Marty Ball! He comes, he picks whoever he wants to coach with him.
and one more thing…………68 is NOT OLD! Not anymore.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I thought the jets had the #1 rushing team the last couple years ??
January 11th, 2012 at 8:24 am
@ClayBurn94: GREAT now on tbo they are reporting Childress is still in town… Smh just hire someone already!!
Actually, he heard Favre is dining at Selmon’s tonight. Pitched his tent last night on the lawn.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Schotty sr would bring in qb coach guru terry shea(his oc) in virginia.dude is $$.worked with bradford,ryan. Etc.has been a primary instructor at qbu a hs combine type exposure camp.he knows his stuff and would do all kinds of good with joshy boy.lil scotty oc.man things are looking up.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Ok…
So at least it is a choice in the opposite direction of the youngry regime.
Marty has 200 NFL Victories in his coaching career (regular Season) with only one season (Chargers 2003) finishing under .500%
The Bucs have only won 228 in their entire History.
He is actually above in the Tony Dungy Coaching tree and also has other Coaches branching below him like Cohwer, Cameron, and H.Edwards.
So now, if this happens, we would actually have a “head coach” to re-establish the coaching hierchy that this team needs.
A Stable Head Coach to be the “CEO”
and Offensive and Defensive Coordinators below.
Now let’s see what the next choices are.
OC will probably be Brian Schottenheimer(son)
DC is ????
Hopefully not Kurt Schottenheimer (brother),
but the new DC needs to be dynamic to make Marty Ball work.
Contrary to popular belief, the Glazers are not total idiots and will make this analysis as to protect their investment.
They have spent a lot on high draft picks on the Defensive side (and probably will need to do so again in this years draft) so even if based more from a business experience interpretation, I can envision that there will be somebody in this position that will be hired that WILL bring in an exciting/strong Defense.
They might even do something unexpected and spend high dollars (in terms of it’s comparision to other DC’s salaries) on the new Defensive Coordinator.
At least that’s the ledge that I am stepping out on since it seems that the writing is on the wall for this HC hire.
This may not be the Glamour Choice that we all wanted.
But was there really ANYBODY out there that was really that exciting?
With my BUCS Pewter and Red Tinted Glasses back on,
I’ll give this a chance…
January 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Liking the dialogue.
Think about this, lots of complaints that LAne Kiffin sucks as HC. Pairs up with Monty, Tenn does good. USC doing very well.
Marty doesn’t want to make his possibly last NFL chance simply into a charity job for his son. He wants to prove that he can go deep in playoffs. I have an open mind.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:59 am
According to Adam shefter ESPN…
there is NO way that Brian follows his dad to Tampa joe…
January 11th, 2012 at 9:02 am
The more I look at this the more I like this whole scenario. Now if somehow Tom Clements came into the picture as QB coach I would be estatic. I’m sure he must be bored trying to teach Aaron Rogers anything new. Come work with Freeman Mr. Clements….please!!
January 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I like that Bobby< bring Tom Clements as the OC/QB Coach im all in. im not impressed with Brian, but i do agree he is 100x better than Olson.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Marty is short term thinking. He will surely bring in his son, whom has proven to NOT be good.
Please, Glazers, keep looking.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Bobby, estatic??
January 11th, 2012 at 11:44 am
My friend the Jets Fan calls Brian Schotty, “The Oracle of Death” and says he will ruin Freeman’s career. Yikes.