Bucs, Kelly “Hopeful” Pact Made In 48 Hours
January 22nd, 2012
Twitter is blowing up with the rumors of Oregon offensive mad scientist Chip Kelly in negotiations with the Bucs.
Per Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, these rumors are accurate. In fact, the two parties hope to finalize a contract within two days.
Oregon coach Chip Kelly is finalizing a deal to become the Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach, a source with knowledge of the situation told the Tampa Bay Times Sunday.
Kelly met with the Bucs earlier this past week and both sides are hopeful an agreement can be reached in the next 24-48 hours.
Wow. This would certainly be a splash move. But a spread-option in the NFL? Joe will believe that will work when he sees it.
So far, Joe has not seen it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Before this spread option crap talk starts heating up, he wont be running that here. Oregon ran some pro formations as well, he’ll adapt. You know that Joe.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Steve Spurrier part 2
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 pm
I wonder how much Chip is paying the Glazers. This could be their biggest money saver yet. Recruiting Scandal, Possible Firing, Get the hell out of Dodge. Hell, I’ll do it for a Caravan.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Let’s hear his press conference before we pass judgement on what his offense is going to look like. If he’s a good coach he will adapt to his personnel.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Any buc’s fan that watched Freeman in the 2nd half of this year’s games and in the comeback wins from last year can see that he is most comfortable in the shotgun with 3 or 4 wideouts. I think they are trying to play to his strengths. But to be fair to Freeman and Kelly, Glazers have to open the checkbook and get them some better players.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Oh man
I don’t think he’d have to necessarily bring a 100% spread option with him. Good coaches adjust to their players and their opponents….look at how Mike Tomlin, a Tampa 2 guy, has had success with a 3-4 coordinator. I guess that begs the question, what kind of coordinator, if any, would Kelly bring in?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
All of a sudden…the Bucs are going to be in the news again, for something positive….
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
viva la rockstar
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
I wonder how much Chip is paying the Glazers. This could be their biggest money saver yet. Recruiting Scandal, Possible Firing, Get the hell out of Dodge. Hell, I’ll do it for a Caravan.
This reminds me of when Dick Vermeil took over the Eagles. I’m sure the Bucs will be having open tryouts next month.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Resigning Josh Johnson to start, with Freeman as the backup.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Stupid ….what a joke!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Doubt he would run a spread option but the Offense would be fast paced and attacking.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The spread doesn’t work, oh wait, it improved Carolina’s offense big time. I certainly expect Kelly to bring his philosophies, but I believe he is smart enough to mold them in the pro game. In the passing game, a lot of teams are using the spread concepts already. Heck, everyone in the NFC South is right now consisitently. 3 and 4 WR sets in shotgun.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
The guy is an innovator and very bright football mind. He knows he’ll have to adjust to the pro game. The point is no matter WHO we hired Cowher, Fisher, Schotty, Chud, Sherman, or anyone there’s risk/holes to everyones resume. I love that the Bucs are going aggressive and ballsy. They got their guy. I can’t believe the amount of ignorance in the comments sometimes (maybe it’s just blind Glazer hatred) Trust me Chip Kelly WILL NOT COME CHEAP, a coordinator or retread could have been had for cheaper then what we’ll have to pay to get kelly out of his Nike money backed deal at Oregon. He could fail sure, but he could be Harbaugh and bring the Bucs our first high powered offense in franchise history. Why focus on the negative right now, when nothing’s been determined till he coaches. Support our damn team Bucs fans!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
You may not like it but the fact is.
Josh Johnson is a much better fit in a spread offense.
He ran it in College.
Chip won’t keep Freeman around very long. He’s just too slow.
Trade for a first round pick while you still can.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Hell yah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wn_x6GZfnI
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
So chip wants to trade a duck for a Buc?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Maybe I missed it but what candidates did the Glazers interview in order to satisfy the Rooney Rule?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Marques:
With all the millions of dollars the Bucs have invested in Josh Freeman, do you really believe they would bench him for a guy that has yet to win a game in the NFL?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Mr. Lucky:
You missed it. 🙂
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
So you go hire the man that has no discipline . He suspended blount for the year . Let him come back because they were in a national championship hunt. I would rather have mike gundy . I mean come on
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Marques Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
You may not like it but the fact is.
Josh Johnson is a much better fit in a spread offense.
He ran it in College.
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No, he didn’t. He ran the WCO for Jim Harbaugh.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
I think they interviewed Jerry Gray, d-coordinator of titans, Mr. Lucky.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Chip Kelly does not run spread offense exclusively. While at New Hampshire, he ran a completely dfferent style of offense because his QB allowed him to and was pretty useless for spread. He emphasised personnel over system many times in the past, so I’m pretty sure he won’t be running spread in the NFL and will center at Freeman.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Many things to like.
Kelly will have to adjust his philosophy for the NFL. You can’t have a QB running all those designed runs. But what I do like is Kelly’s big-time emphasis on team speed. His Oregon teams are like a track team.
What I also like is that Kelly was Blount’s college coach and there’s no way he wastes our number 1 pick on Trent Richardson now, when he already has Blount and can get LaMichael James in rounds 2 or 3.
I also like the fact that Kelly has run the 4-3, again, with a huge emphasis on speed. I am extremely interested to see who his DC will be. I think that Ron Meeks is BY FAR the best candidate to be the new DC. He runs the T-2 and the T-2 is based on speed as well. Mark Aliotti was his DC in college, but I can’t imagine he’s ready for the NFL. NEither Kelly nor Aliotti have NFL experience… you need some of that somewhere along the line.
Something else interesting to watch. Oregon QB Darron Thomas declared for the draft as a junior, surprising EVERYBODY… he wasn’t thought as much of a big-time prospect, but could the Bucs come calling in rounds 4-7 to grab a QB that knows Kelly’s system inside and out?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
So you go hire the man that has no discipline . He suspended blount for the year . Let him come back because they were in a national championship hunt. I would rather have mike gundy . I mean come on
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Yes, and he booted Jeremiah Masoli completely off the team… that seems like he really is harsh on the rules breakers considering the other college coaches (Bowden, Paterno, etc).
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 pm
All right trolls, our new coach is from Manchester (N.H.). Time to start spreading the rumors.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Fist to Joe…What Millions? He’s on his entry level contract.
To Brandon….I never wrote he ran it for chip.
He ran it at San Diago St.
What part don’t you understand?
I have never said Freeman is not a good qb. I very simply stated Johnson is a better fit in the wco.
Trade him while he is worth something.
You may not agree but any qb that loses 10 games in a row is not irreplaceable.
It does not all fall on him, but clearly he was no leader on offense.
If you can sign Josh at very reasonable money go do it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Brandon:
It was the University that suspended Blount, not Kelly.
Not saying he didn’t have a say in the matter, but the suspension came from the athletic department.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 pm
It baffles me that people on here think that just because a coach ran a certain style offense or defense in a particular situation, they think that there is NO WAY that he can adjust it in another circumstance. Just like Cowher with the 3-4, there is no reason to believe that he wouldn’t be able to adapt to a pro-style here. I’m sure he has spent plenty of time studying everything there is to know about it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Looks like we are going to nab LaMichael James in the draft this year. I am sure Kelly would love to have LGB and LMJ at the same time. Plus it would make one hell of a 1 – 2 combo.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 pm
@ Marques
JJ played at U of San Diego bro.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Johnson_(American_football)
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Marques:
Think before you type. Per Rotowold:
“Signed a five-year, $26 million contract. The deal includes $10.245 million guaranteed.”
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
So we fire a coach who had no head coaching experience…to hire a coach with no NFL experience…
Gotcha.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Marques=un-knowledgable clown. Josh Johnson operated in a West Coast offense in college. It’s how he set the NCAA record for consecutive completions & completion % in a season, because he threw lots of underneath crossing routes that are typical in the WCO. Get a clue & some information before you bash people on here.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
I am loving this idea.
Our team will at least be exciting.
No more check downs to Blumpkin 🙂 hooray
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
sensiblebuc….my bad…but he still ran the spread.
Anyone who thinks he is not going to go with his bread and butter in the pros are kidding themselves.
His qb will be required to run. Freeman is not that guy. Thats just my opinion.
It does not make him a bad qb. Just not the type of qb chip has ever recruited or played.
Those are the facts.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
On a weekend and after 4pm. Eat crow, certain people.
For those saying Johnson played spread…wrong. It was West Coast.
I think the new OC will quiet the naysayers.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Mathew… What exactly did i write that wasn’t true ?
I have not disrespected anyone including you. Keep it clean.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I am sorry… we need a PROVEN NFL head coach with connections to hire the most competent staff in the league…. whomever our head coach is, we need as many capable coaches as we can find…. look at ATL, they basically have 3 head coaches at this point, which is exactly what we need, LEADERSHIP. This is a trend, hiring a college guy hoping for the immediate success of Harbaugh… guess what, Harbaugh’s family has been in the NFL for his whole life, and he ran a PRO STYLE offense. Our offense could not be more different than the Ducks. I absolutely LOATHE the Glazers.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 pm
First off, I love the hire.
Chip has been a coach on both sides of the ball, showing that he simply knows football.
Additionally, I have heard that
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 am
To Joe….you made my point…
Three years of his deal is done. They have paid peanuts these first 3 years.
http://www.bucsnation.com/2009/8/10/980946/what-does-josh-freemans-signing
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 am
Marques, again, if you think the Bucs will bench Freeman — which is what you are insinuating — because Josh Johnson (a free agent) fits Kelly’s offense better, Joe has swampland in Mesa for sale. The Glazers would have a shItfit if that was the case. Rightfully so. They have millions invested in Freeman.
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 am
Joe ….I bet at the beginning of the coaching search. Chip wasn’t even in your top 10 candidates.
Watch the tape…do you really think Freeman can sell the run the way chip asks his qb’s to sell it.
Like I said b4 Freeman is a good QB. His reads are too slow and his foot speed is way too slow.
If chip is coming here he is calling all the shots and that includes QB’s.
I’m not saying Josh is his man but for sure Freeman won’t be signing a 2nd contract with the bucs as long as chip is around.
Watch the tape and show some respect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0mHrirPce0&feature=related
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 am
To Joe….one for the road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9fWpnxyUcU
Knowledge is power…
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 am
For those who say chip is undisciplined, Blount was not suspended for the WHOLE season. There was no time table for his suspension. He was suspended and told if he has good behavior and shows an honest effort he could possibly come back, and that he did.
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 am
Marques…..interesting points, but you seem to think that Chip would not be adjusting his playcalling/scheme to fit his personal, Freeman is most important piece of that puzzle.
Do you really think Chip is going to bench Free…..do you really think that Chips speech to the Glazers did not include how he could maximize Free’s talents?
Come on Marques…..Love a good debate…but seriously…your not giving Chip enough credit to taylor an offense around his new QB.
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 am
IMO it’s a gutsy hire, a surprise with a TON of upside.
LOVE THIS HIRE and can’t wait to have it confirmed and get the staff together.
Exciting times for the fans at LAST!!!!
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 am
Joe, what exactly do you think the Patriots, Packers, (former) Colts and Saints offenses are exactly!? Spread offenses are the future of the NFL, because they are the present and future of college football.
I like this hire a ton in theory, I am a little cautious of it in application. Is Freeman really the guy to run it? I have been clamoring all year that our skill players (WR’s and Blount) along with Josh himself are better suited for spread offense, but I don’t know if they can execute it at the high enough level it needs to be run in the NFL.
That was why spurrier failed in Washington. He had no talent, and didnt have the ability to adapt his system.
This is a risky move, but I like it. The Glazers certainly calculated this one, and their last risk, Gruden, got us a superbowl.
Let’s be honest, Rahim was a safe move, and that backfired horribly. Hopefully this is the sign of moves in FA along the way as well.
Oh and BTW, WHO IS DC???
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 am
Steve…
Fact….The Glazers need him more then Chip needs them. His stock keeps rising. If he comes it’s on his terms.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post?id=58553
Short term its free…but he is not married to him and he will make that crystal clear to the bucs.
He knows the athletes that he needs to make his system work. I’m sure he can tweak it but he is not going to overhall his offense thats for sure.
Chip is not leaving NIKE to listen to anyone. He will call all the shots. Mark will be his gopher.
If you know Chip No one will tell him how to run his football team.
For the record ….here is who Joe liked “quote”
“Mike Mularkey is really intriguing. He’s not a young guy any more. He’s good with young quarterbacks. He knows the Falcons, he knows the Saints. He’s an intriging guy.
“Chip Kelly? It’s a big risk coming from college football. How will he do? Will his offense work with Josh Freeman? When you have LeGarrette Blount who gets a quarterback killed, when you have Mike Williams who can’t stretch the field, when you have Kellen Winslow who can’t run any more, let’s see how you do.
“I don’t think they want a guy who wants to run personnel. They will have to get along with Mark. I would be surprised if they hire a first-time head coach and that may be the best way to go, that guy might be a superstar.”
Mularkley would have set this franchise back a decade.
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:45 am
@Marques,
Not trying to be mean, but it seems as if you don’t understand the difference between a west coast offense and a spread offense. There is a difference, a big one actually. Josh Johnson never ran a spread offense at San Diego, he ran a west coast offense. Chip Kelly did not run a west coast offense at Oregon, he ran a spread offense. So no, Josh Johnson is not experienced in that type of offense as you are suggesting. I don’t care what kind of offense we run, JJ is not a NFL starter. I like the guy a lot, but he’s just not. WE WILL NOT GET RID OF FREEMAN. I don’t think you understand that this is a business, and there is too much money invested in Freeman to get rid of him. And anyway, not sure why everyone here is suggesting Freeman is slow. He’s no Vick, but he’s been one of the better rushing QB’s in the NFL since he got here. Don’t follow you on that one.
You also need to understand that Kelly has never been married to any type of offense. He has adjusted according to the players he has coached. He will do the same here, or he won’t be here long.
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:56 am
Big Picture:
Spread and spread option are two different animals.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 am
Joe, but those teams are all up tempo and feature runs, draws and screens alike to NFL offenses, but at a lower rate. Clearly Kelly would have to adapt his playbook a bit.
But I think he has the right mentality, and we saw how much better Freeman is during a 2-minute drill, compared to normal play.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 am
And really, a sense of urgency I think is what was missing from this team all year. How many slow starts did we have on a consistent basis? It took us falling into a hole time and time again, for this team to wake up. If anything, I hope Keely brings that to the Bucs most of all.
The Offense and Deffense will be what they will be. Honestly, I believe Kelly could bring the one cure for the Bucs’ biggest ailment.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:12 am
My own thoughts are that the Spread offense is basically the next evolution of what we all know of as the West Coast Offense, which relies on crisp, well-run routes and accurate throws by the QB. To me the Spread just expands on that by spreading the field and utilizing the entire field, and creating mis-matches just as in the WCO, but on a wider scale.
West coast you get rid of the ball much much quicker, in spread you want to take shots down field, but you dont force the ball in the spread if its not there you dump it off…..west cost is a lot of slants, and underneath routes; where spread is deeper routes with 1-2 underneath dump off receivers.
Both require you to read your progressions very quickly Freeman really struggled with that.
That progression came a lot easier for JJ.
He ran for 238. Mainly scrambling from the pocket breaking down. His QB rating was not even in the top 25.
I don’t hate the guy, I don’t love JJ. BUT CLEARLY he was never given the opportunity that freeman was.
You watch the 49’ers pick him up right away when free agency starts. He will eventually replace Smith.
Thats just my opinion.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 am
I pretty much agree with you on the two styles, but even from your description they are very very different. In exactly what offense do you force the ball deep? You always dump it off if it’s not there, no matter what offense you are running (every single offense has check down routes). So the routes are different, the timing is different, the use of the field is different, the type of QB required is different, and even the formations are very different, yet they are an evolution of each other???? You lost me on that one.
JJ has gotten playing time and not been successful. He’s not accurate enough, and he gets way too antsy in the pocket. On the first sign of trouble, he’s running for his life. Not to mention the fact that he’s built like a 1980s point guard and he’s going to get himself killed over a 16 game season playing the way he does. He also has proven he can’t move the ball once he gets to the other teams side of the field. He may get signed as a 3rd string for SF, but not as a starter or backup. I think you are forgetting they just drafted Kaepernick in the second round last year. Again, this is a business and they aren’t about to waste that money.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 am
And of course he wasn’t given the same opportunity as Freeman. Freeman was a first round pick making millions, with the thought of carrying this franchise for 10-15 years. Josh Johnson was drafted in the 5th round as a project, and as a backup. You may not like that, but it’s reality for every single team in the NFL.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 am
I was being brief when describing both offenses.
Now let me preface this by saying I DONT THINK JJ IS TOM BRADY !!!! HE IS A HOF er OK.
Having said that he was a 6th round pick that was given a shot.
I didn;t forget about KEPERNICK… I’d take JJ over him in heartbeat.
You give JJ a full training camp and season and this kid will make you look smart.
His book has yet to be completed. He has a lot of chapters left in his NFL career.
I hope he gets his shot with the 49ers.
January 23rd, 2012 at 3:03 am
The last QB to leave Tampa to go to the 49ers had a pretty good career if recall. History has a way of repeating itself.
Hopefully this will be the case for JJ
January 23rd, 2012 at 3:05 am
“It was the University that suspended Blount, not Kelly.
Not saying he didn’t have a say in the matter, but the suspension came from the athletic department.”
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That’s simply not true Joe. The suspension was handed down by Kelly. He reviewed the tape, he made the decision, and he broke the news to Blount. He also said from the very beginning that there was “a chance” he could be reinstated. In fact, he made it a point to say that the decision did not come from the University, but from him. I just googled it and found it on 5 different sites, including ESPN. Not one site said the University forced the suspension.
Kelly also kicked Massoli off the team, who was a Heisman candidate. He also kicked off his #1 CB, Cliff Harris, as well. So he doesn’t play favorites. Not too many coaches at any level kick off their best players, but especially at a big-time program like Oregon. Everywhere I read says he is known as a disciplinarian, so he just may be a very good fit here in that department.
January 23rd, 2012 at 3:50 am
It doesn’t matter if you are being brief, you still stated a ton of differences. Please briefly tell me some similarities then. I don’t see why it would take you longer to explain similarities, but I’m all ears.
When Brady came in (due to an injury), he won. He played well with his first opportunity. They were not expected to be a SB team that year, and they won it. JJ has never won one game in the NFL. Not one in 4 career starts. His stats aren’t good, the team didn’t score, and he made a ton of mistakes. Tom Brady was a very good player on a very good Michigan team. That’s one of the biggest programs in the country if you didn’t know. They actually play against good competition, unlike what the University of San Diego does. I will bet you my house you can’t name me one team in the same conference as San Diego without looking it up. I know I can’t. Brady had a very good career at Michigan, just a very very bad combine. He made the most of his opportunity. JJ has had an opportunity in both the regular season and the preseason, and has failed miserably. That is a fact that no one can really deny. Again, I like the guy, but facts are facts.
As for Kaepernick, it doesn’t matter if you would take him in a heartbeat, because you didn’t spend millions of dollars to have him on your team. I really think you fail to understand how the business of the NFL works. This isn’t college. You don’t pay people huge amounts of money to just get rid of them, especially for an unproven 5th round pick that no one has ever heard of because he played for a rinky dink school that everyone thinks is San Diego State (which is a rinky dink school in itself).
He’s had a full training camp. In fact, he’s had 4. Why would you just put him as the starter? What has he done to deserve that? Do you think he’s killing it in practice? Read the practice reports during training camp. He struggles quite often. So you think some team should insert JJ in their starting lineup with these amazing credentials: Rinky dink school, late round draft pick, 0-4 as an NFL starter, struggled in preseason, struggled in practice against quite possibly the worst defense in the history of the NFL, can’t stay in the pocket, can’t make accurate throws, and built like a twig. But nah, he’s really fast and he does good in Madden, so let’s just throw away our former #1 overall pick (that just led us to the NFC championship game) and last year’s 2nd round pick to give him a full training camp as the starter! That makes perfect sense. The fans of the 49ers would be thrilled with that move. As they are working hard to get out of that sh!t-hole of a stadium, I’m sure bringing in Josh Johnson would be exactly what is needed to fill up their new stadium.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Final word…
Brady was OK in College not great just OK. After all he played in the Big 10.
In his 2nd game as a pro he lost 34-10…If that was JJ in Tampa he would never have seen the field again.
The Pats were debating between Brady and Tim Rattay. Enough said.
I’m more of a basketball guy. My brother in law is an assistantHead coach at New Mexico St. I know the WCC well. Steve Nash, Doug Christie, Bill Russell all came from that conference. Gonzaga always a good team .
As for football obviously they are not a powerhouse football conference.
In my opinion the Big 10 is an overrated conference….
Just for the record I was was offerred a full ride scholarship to play soccer at THE OHIO ST UNIVERSITY to play soccer in 1988. I declined and I never regretted my decision ever.
Overrated school in an overrated conference.
As for Alex Smith…Are you kidding me? he had 12 completions in 5 quarters. Was 1 for 13 in 3rd down efficiency. AND this was his 7th year as a QB.
Do you really think if the league had a do over knowing what they know about Alex Smith today where do you think he would be drafted ?
I’m white so I can say this. Alex Smith is an overrated white QB who has been overrated his whole career and still keeps getting chance after chance.
Brady has developed under Bill to be a top 5 qb of all time. I still like Elway as my #1
Finally, as I wrote earlier Chip is calling all the shots and for whatever reason has chosen not to come to Tampa.
Youre a good man Hawaiian. I look forward to more exchanges in future postings.
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Not sure if you know that Michigan is the winningest program in the history of college football. The Big 10 is not very good now, but it was very good at that time. Also, Brady was better than ok in college. I highly suggest you watch “The Brady 6”. As for his second game as a starter, you fail to mention he won his first 44-13. That’s one more win than JJ has had.
Alex Smith isn’t great, but he did win 14 games this year, by being an excellent game manager. He has also had 7 OC’s in 7 years, which if you know football is an awful situation for any QB. I would take Alex Smith throwing left handed over JJ, and so would the Bucs and every other NFL team. There is no market for JJ as anything more than a backup, period. He’s had his chance to prove himself. Of course anything can happen and he may get another chance due to injury, but he’s just not NFL starter
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Not sure you know how many National championships they have won in the last 30 years, 40 years, 50 years ?
Thats what teams are judged on.
He had a 75 rating is 1st game and 59 his 2nd. Did he improve ? The answer is No, but they did not give up on him.
How about Mat Cassel in the 7th round ? Did they give up on him ? The answer is No and he was a career back up in College.
No question JJ will have to be a back up. But if he gets his chance in San Fran. He will eventually be the starter.
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Matt Cassell was traded away, so I’m not sure your point. But once again, got his opportunity, played well, became a starter. Cassell was a backup in college because he played for a school that had more people in the stands than players on the field, unlike Josh Johnson. USC vs. San Diego – not much of a comparison. You keep avoiding the simple fact that he has looked terrible in all 4 of his NFL starts. No matter how many other players you bring up, that’s the bottom line. He’s had his opportunity, and failed miserably. Could he get another chance, sure, but he will NEVER get an opportunity to be a starter from the beginning of the season. He has nowhere near the skill set of a Brady, Cassell, or any other starting QB in the NFL. If he did, teams would have already been going after him. Google him all you want, he won’t even be on the top 100 free agents for this year. Outside of Tampa and the University of san diego, no one has even heard of him.