Players Talking About Playing For Coaches’ Jobs
December 5th, 2011
Are Bucs players feeling the warmth from Raheem Morris’ hot seat?
St. Pete Times beat writer Rick Stroud says they are in a big way.
“The first thing that several [players] mentioned was, ‘We got plenty to play for. We gotta play for our coaches’ jobs. There’s going to be changes in here if we don’t win,'” Stroud said, speaking on The Dan Sileo Show on WDAE-AM 620 on Monday.
Stroud went on to say the players he talked to Sunday like all aspects of the Raheem regime but may be concerned primarily about their own job security under a new head coach.
Joe really doesn’t care what motivates the Bucs. They’re not playing — or coaching — anywhere near their potential, except for a few bright spots.
But all parties involved still have ample time and opportunity to save the regime. Four games is an eternity in the NFL.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
We’ve got about 10-15 players who’s jobs would be safe under a new regime.
Freeman, Blount, Williams, Penn, Joseph (Benn is maybe due to injury last season)
Bowers, McCoy, Price, Clayborn, Bennett, Foster, TJax, Koenen, Barth.
Everyone else I think would be expendable, especially with a gabillion dollars in free cap space.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Quincy Black and Trueblood are certainly benefiting from this “Rahgime”. No one else would have paid them what they are making now.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
See there you go, the players are concerned for their jobs. Not under Raheem but under a head coach who might care how terribly they are playing and not making excuses for them. Go figure…….. Yes boys you should be concerned very concerned!
December 5th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I didn’t read Kappa’s comment before it was edited, but I’m guessing he was talking about the garbage that is being spewed by Duemig right now. He’s defending Olson AND STILL saying we shouldn’t go into free agency. Are you kidding me Steve? Could it be any more obvious that he’s trying to stay on Raheem’s good side so he can get his interviews? That show is just getting ridiculous.
That’s not a personal attack Joe, so I expect this comment to stay up.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
See, that’s a critical comment without being personal.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
I’m on the fence about Raheem.If Raheem goes then so should Dominik.Maybe give Raheem 1 more year, with a DC. mandatory.Bring in proven talent to go with potential talent.Ditch Olson or take in the reins at least bring a real QB coach and or a veteran back-up to help Freeman.
Freeman is the only reason I’m on the fence,I hate to see him stunted like J Campbell all those new systems every year. I’m so disgusted with the team and discipline.At the same time Dominik hasn’t given Raheem much to work with maybe that applies for Olson too?(that still doesnt excuses the Benn reverse!)
So maybe one more year make or break,but then again a big name Coach(Fisher,Reid)would put Butts in the seats,and discipline problems would go away.
So Joe how about a new poll
Raheem fired
Raheem must hire a DC
Raheem must hire a DC and a new OC
or
what coach do you want
Fisher
Reid(he’s getting fired)
Cowher(no way he’s coming to this mess)
Edwards(if he can get Marrinelli as DC)
Mangini(please No)
December 5th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Worried about their own job security under a new head coach?
GEE, I WONDER WHY?!?
December 5th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
The players are actually discussing this?
That doesn’t seem very positive.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Steve is an extension of the Glazers these days, just understand that and know that his opinions are aimed at creating entertaining debate – if you receive him that way it won’t piss you off.
I know steve personally and I find his buc takes WAY off and irritating but then I realize that he is succeeding in doing what he is paid to do.
Remember, at his core, he doesnt believe a lot of that junk.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
It pisses me off regardless Thomas. It’s the fact that so many people listen to his show and buy into the irrational garbage that is said sometimes, like saying “OH DON’T GET FREE AGENTS, YOU’LL END UP LIKE PHILLY”. How silly a comment is that? A large group of people will here that, and take it to heart.
Unfortunately Thomas not everybody listening knows that he doesn’t really believe a lot of the stuff he’s saying.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I can only listen to Duemig if I think back to him cold topping a three iron into the water on a par three during the “big break” on the golf channel.
He is a smart guy and he is attempting to entice the very emotions stated herein. Plenty of others tee off on the team on 620, so i doubt the Glazers have any control – except maybe the Raheem Morris show.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
In Fennelly’s column, Rah says “I’m not going to sit here and act like having a defensive coordinator would have made it any easier to tackle Cam Newton. That is not the case.”
Just don’t think he gets it. A good DC puts his players in place to stop/make plays and has guys SWARMING to the ball so one man’s not doing it alone. Definitely missing that swagger and mentality of old. And as for Ronde calling out Price for his foul, don’t recall hearing anything from him on Talib’s multiple personal fouls that have cost this team. Definitely seems like a dysfunctional and fractured team.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Gone from “youngry” to “fugly” real quick around here.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
IF i were jacksonvile, i would hand the ball to jonesdrew 50 times
December 5th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
My dad thinks Luke McCown is going to kick our @ss on Sunday. I found that pretty funny. He probably will! if that happens….Raheem is in trouble.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
“Players Talking About Playing For Coaches’ Jobs
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Kiss of death statement….which speak volumes about how far out of wack this team is….this team is is desparate straights from top to bottom….what they do not realize is that they are under performing “sled dogs” about to left unto the real world at the next rest stop…
December 5th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Plenty of them had better play for their own jobs too.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Not sure what you guys heard but Duemigs monologue was basically about how cheap the Glazers are
December 5th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Why does it take a 6 game losing streak before the players get concerned??????
Screw this whole coaching staff – FIRE RAHEEM NOW
IHCRC
December 5th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
We’ve got about 10-15 players who’s jobs would be safe under a new regime.
Freeman, Blount, Williams, Penn, Joseph (Benn is maybe due to injury last season)
Bowers, McCoy, Price, Clayborn, Bennett, Foster, TJax, Koenen, Barth.
Everyone else I think would be expendable, especially with a gabillion dollars in free cap space.
I’ve often wondered while sitting on the deck of my $40 million yacht looking up at the stars……..just what a GABILLION DOLLARS looks like!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
These bums should be concerned if a new Head Coach comes in cause he’s probably not going to put up with the lack of discipline or low I.Q. this team has collectively shown. These bums want to “play to keep Raheem” around because Raheem’s regime has been very lax towards them.
“Oh now if another coach comes here then that means we need to get serious and start actually practicing and watching film and doing things other successful teams do. No more staying out all night and playing Wii during team meetings” – Bum Buc Player (I’m sure this is the thought process)
December 5th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Personally, I think they’re past the point of no return and they know it. You can see that the team (players and coaches) understands they’re teetering on the edge of the cliff. It’s extremely difficult to focus and function at a high level under those circumstances.
They might win one more game … but I doubt it. Every team has figured them out but the Bucs can’t seem to figure out their opponents. Even if the owners give Rah one more year but force him to hire a DC … what decent, self-respecting DC wants a 1-year gig with a lame duck coach?
Bringing this group back for one more year would kill ticket sales next year. I see this ending only one way. The whole coaching staff will be let go after the season ends. Hopefully, this time they will do it the right way. No more promotions from within. Hire a new coach and let him assemble his own coaching staff on both sides of the ball.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Great points buzz saw.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
@bUcNcRazy: Herm Edwards as a HC?? No way, he hasn’t been successful anywhere. I’d love to see Fisher, but Reid would be great for Freeman especially if he brought in Mornhinweg. I’ve been a fan of Raheem, but if they tank the rest of the way, I see him gone.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
I get the feeling that Deumig has Morris’s back because he believes that he was set up to fail by the Glazers with their ridiculous “plan”. Like most of the fans, he probably believes that the Glazers and Dominick are just as much at fault and that Morris is being made a scapegoat. I agree with that take but I differ in that, regardless of who is at fault, Morris has proved he isn’t capable of leading this team and should be replaced.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Steve Spagnuolo will need a job… IF, and that’s a huge if, they keep Rah on for another year they should force him to take on a DC. Spag comes from a 4-3 blitzing style D… very successful as a DC and won a ring.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Hey joe im from Canada and there showing the clip of raheem throwing price out its getting humilation from everyone this guys a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
If the players are admitting they they need to play for the coaching staff then their also admitting that they can play better, this has gone on long enough bring in a new staff, use these last few games as a extended preseason for next year and get ready to compete for next season. Might sound far fecthed but so is paying people that admitt they haven’t been earning their pay check
December 5th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Patrick, might want to let your dad know that McCown hasn’t played in a game for the Jags since I think week 2.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Duemig is reaching big time by defending Raheem. He’s bashing the players saying the talent is bad. Well then who’s fault is that? Dominik is the one that signed Quincey Black to a big deal who are stinking up the defense.
And Freeman being in that game wouldnt have made any difference unless he’s going to play LB too and stop Cam Newton.
No matter who you want to blame…it still comes back to the coaches and front office. The buck stops with them.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Last two home games outscored 75-28, so if I’m marketing director of the team, what is my angle to sell tickets if sweeping changes aren’t made? I believe the coaching staff’s fate has already been sealed, fan apathy is a killer.
December 6th, 2011 at 12:06 am
1992… Handshake agreement between he and a southan’ gentleman in an orange sports coat by name of Hugh F. Culverhouse
2002… Bearded Glazer publicly acknowledges team is actively pursuing elusive “hump like snow hill”
2012… Tuna-Comet passing close to the welcoming waters of Tampa Bay yet again???
December 6th, 2011 at 12:29 am
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December 6th, 2011 at 1:27 am
Closing the comments because this thread has nothing to do with Steve Duemig.