Loss May Have Earned Morris Job Security
November 20th, 2011
Now Joe’s not trying to play cheerleader here. He certainly is never confused with Marlana Aref.
But Joe just thinks the way the Bucs played today will temper the shrill howls for Bucs coach Raheem Morris’ head on a platter.
The Bucs committed to running the ball, and ran well. The Bucs passed well, probably the best all season. The Bucs were aggressive on both sides of the ball. The Bucs held one of the NFL’s greatest offenses scoreless in the third quarter.
No the Bucs didn’t win, and that was frustrating. Bucs players after the game were upset and wanted nothing to do with “moral victories.”
But the way the Bucs played, as big of underdogs as they were, as hampered as the team is defensively, speaks to Joe that they were coached up this week.
Yeah, the Bucs lost. That sucks. But Joe is of the mind that in the end, Morris won.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
the guys nfl record is 17-25 and ranks towards the bottom of almost every category on offense and defense how he is not fired already is only cuz the glazers own this team
November 20th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
You have lost your mind.
This game is the strongest evidence yet that rah rah has no business on a nfl sideline.
Going for 2 when he did was idiotic, the second onside kick was the dumbest thing I have seen in years – outside of paying G McCoy 50 million dollars. Those decisions cost your team opportunities at the end of the game.
I am starting to think that the Panthers are moving beyond us in growth and may steal one of the 2 games.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Lasting moral victory contenders?
My how the standards have changed.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Yup, he probably insured he’ll be retained. As he should be. But we will definitely see a defensive co- ordinator. Olsen might still be on shaky grpuns, but he offense played pretty solid today also
November 20th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Look to the penalties and turnovers. You dont keep your job bc your players try but lose – that is a loser standard Joe.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
thomas 2.2:
ROTFLMAO!!!
Major props to you for somehow finding a way to work in your GMC hate. Joe extends his compliments on being such a wordsmith. 🙂
November 20th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
We are now three games behind the Saints, and three behind Detroit and CHicago for the wild card, both of whom have the tie breaker on us.
Four losses in a row.
One of the worst defenses in pro football, run by our head coach.
And his job is now safe?
Man talk about twisting yourself into a pretzel to support the regime.
Pitiful. Chearleading is a massive understatement.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
The 1998 Buccaneers started off 4-7. They should of fired Dungy right then and there.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
oh ya 9 or 10 of his 17 wins were against teams with losing records and 2nd or 3rd string qb playing and it took 4th quarter comebacks to win those games
November 20th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Anthony you leave out that they made the playoffs and advanced in 1997. Also, they would have made the playoffs in 98 if the Cards had lost to the Chargers the last game of the season. They werent totally out of it in week 10.
November 20th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
@Anthony……..do not even go there. The Dungy led Bucs were/are far more superior than this team right now. They were much more mature and already had leaders around the team (Brooks, Sapp, Nickerson, etc.) Dungy was a much better coach than Raheem.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
It still depends on the rest of the season but yes, Raheem help his chanced to be retained today IMO.
Obviously the team responded to the week’s preparation. And the icing on the cake?
“Fans” like thomas2.whatever are left miserable, giving me a little added pleasure. What a jackwagon.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Shouldn’t they be “coached up” every week? Isn’t that his job?
November 20th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Also, the 1998 team was actually competitive in almost all of their games. They lost three games by 5 points or less.
Three of their other losses were by 8 points, 9 points, and 6 points. They had two blowout losses EARLY in the season, one against a Vikings team that went 15-1 that year.
The ’98 Bucs were better than this years Bucs.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
What Joe just posted was the most insanely idiotic thing I’ve ever read. Everyone in this chat room is now dumber for having read it. I award Joe no points……..and may God have mercy on his soul.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
not enough…he is a fighter and scrapping for all he is worth….thing is he was given a HC position in the NFL far beyond his resume…it is sad for all concerned…too bad he is not a college HC …I wish him the best….but THESE are THEeee… Tampa Bay Buccaneers !
November 20th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
thomas 2.2: Yeah, they went 10-6. Beat Detroit an overrated Detroit team in the 1st round. Sound Familiar? The Buccaneers are not out of it yet. They have 6 games, all of them are winnable. They finished 8-8 in 1998, which will probably be the record they finish with this season.
Patrick: Brooks and Sapp were hardly leaders at that time. Nickerson was the guy. Let them develop before you have a final opinion on the current squad.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
We give up 35 points , should have been more. Commit 9 penalties. Throw 2 picks. And somehow this is good? Wow.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
The 15-1 year the Vikings had, the 1 was to the Bucs.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Never mind,I forgot they were in the same division,my mistake.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Patrick: Yeah and they should have beat the Packers today too! An undefeated Packers team. My opinion is that they are an average team this season. Do not be to quick to strike on Morris. Let them sign some veterans in the off-season. And if they are not a playoff team next season, jump off the bridge and picket or do whatever you schizo fans do.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Raheem made 2 big mistakes, the last onside kick and the decision to blitz on 3rd down and leave your pittiful cornerbacks one on one with all pro wideouts. Those 2 cost us the game pretty much.
But Raheem obviously got his players to believe in themselves and believe they could play with the best team in the league. So cudos to him for that.
Wishy washy day for Rah, not bad not good. Thomas is the most upset man in the world that we played the Pack close like that, now he has nothing to post about all week.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Hell, even if we finish 10-6, we’d still probably miss the playoffs again. Detroit, Chicago are both 7-3. Dallas is 6-4. Atlanta will be 6-4 if they win today.
Not looking good. One of those 7-3 teams will have to finish 2-4 if want a shot.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
K2theSoldier: What do you think about the penalties? Do you think that cost them at all? Does thomas always post stuff like this?
November 20th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
My bad, Chicago is playing right now so they’re not 7-3 YET.
But still, you get my point.
We want the Chargers to beat the Bears today.We want the Titans to beat the Falcons too.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
If Rah did save his job with the effort today, I find it hard to believe that any credible candidate would want to take over at OC if Rah is in a lame duck year next year. Unless, one would assume that Olson is retained or Van Pelt promoted.
If no changes are made to the coaching staff, is that really away to get fan interest in the area heightened for next year?
November 20th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Agree Joe. This game showed that Morris can get through to his players and get them to perform. I thought it was a tremendous turnaround from last week. Thomas and the rest of the Klan that posts about Rah on here aren’t happy but I was proud of the Bucs today. They showed heart and total effort. They lost to a better team.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
@Anthony….Thomas is the resident moron along with his usual group of hacks that chirp “I agree Thomas..the Bucs suck!! GMC is a bust!!! Morris has to go!!!….has anyone seen my tampons???…er…did I say that out loud???” They are like women on their period only all season long. Putrid excuse for fans.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Penalties were tough but the ones on Biggers he was already beat for a TD and was trying to keep them outta the endzone. The Kellen PI call was flat out weak and wouldn’t get called 9 out of 10 times. I can’t really remember many other huge penalties, I may be missing some.
Penalties hurt obviously but weren’t the deciding factors in the game I don’t think.
And yes, Thomas ALWAYS posts stuff like that. He’s under the impression that he knows how to coach a football team and for some reason wants us to all think he’s at every Buc practice and on the side line for every game. Disregard everything he says.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Look, I saw the positive signs, but bottomline is, we’re 4-6. We lost. Our defense was horrible, like they’ve been all year. We had a chance to improve our CB’s and LB’s, but we ignored the need. You get what you pay for. No loss should reward Raheem at all. It seems like a losing culture is being established here again.
Our offense looked better, but keep in mind that they were facing a pretty bad defense. Still, hopefully this gets them motivated and gets them confident going forward.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
And don’t mistake my first thing about Biggers as an excuse or me defending him, he’s a terrible cornerback and has no business seeing the field as much as he does. Regardless of what Joe thinks, Biggers is a bad football player.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Thomas,
When you look at yourself in the mirror, do you laugh at yourself, because you are nothing but a big joke.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
^^^He probably does.
November 20th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
almost winning isnt everything
its the only thing.
November 20th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
It’s the whole “losing culture” thing is what we really want to see go away. We haven’t seen consistently good teams here ever. And as fans that’s what really bugs us. Up and down seasons is the best we’ve got from this franchise. I don’t think the Glazers know what it means to own the Tampa Bay Buccaneers! Bottom line we all want the same thing! And don’t care who does it, just do it!!
November 20th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
I support success!
November 20th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Jeff-f’in-Fisher.
November 20th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Why can’t the Bucs play like this all the time ?
November 20th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Moral victories are for coaches in their first and maybe second year. We give up 35 points our head coach is a defensive coach and that makes his job secure??? What killed me was on pretty much the winning drive Raheems secondary (and lets admit it is his men) committed one pass interference after another to get Rogers down the field. If this team had a head coach who could lower their penalties they might have a shot at winning but Raheem is unable to handle that. For some reason this team does not understand defensive holding, pass interference and offensive pass interference to save their lives. If I was Raheem that might be all I work on for an entire week. Those kind of penalties have cost us probably five games this year.
November 20th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Wow, the “occupy Joebucsfan.com” with Rah haters is in full force! Hey thomass, since you obviously had to play some football at a major college and have some pro experience and contacts since you know everything that goes on behind the scene at One Buc Place, how about sharing your football resume with us “sheep”? You know, something we can verify over the internet that will give your claims some legitimacy.
November 21st, 2011 at 1:03 am
@ Greg, he was commisioner of his daughters flag football league.
November 21st, 2011 at 1:24 am
Eric:
🙂
November 21st, 2011 at 3:40 am
@ K2
Yeah that, and too much fantasy football. Hopefully he’ll go the way of Jimbuc soon!
November 21st, 2011 at 7:19 am
THe onside kick (second one) was irrelevant, if K2 catches the 2 point conversion.
Either way, you have to stop Green Bay!!
Its all about a mindset..you have to think outside the box. YOu can’t be aggressive all day long then turn conservative after 95% of the game is left.
If the onside kick is all you have for firing morris, your wasting your time. This coach is here to stay, and only a losing season NEXT YEAR will put him in the hot seat…..HOT SEAT, not fired. This guy is coaching his contract out, you can bet that.
November 21st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Much better effort today, but still lost for our 4th in a row. As other have said we need a sppedy wr/change of pace back, 2 starting caliber lb’s, 2 starting caliber cb’s with the new pass NFL, and a safety to replace Jones.
I also wouldn’t mind seeing a new center and RT. There are some really good young pieces in place but the build through the draft just isn’t working to produce a solid team soon enough.
Let see how the Bucs finish out the season with these last 6 games. There’s 4-5 definite winable games, if we don’t finish 8-8 or at least cut down on our penalties and give great effort Morris is going to be a hard sell for my season tickets in year 15.