Ryan Nece Demands Answers
October 23rd, 2011
Now Joe knows the guys working the Bucs radio network are paid by the Bucs and have to remain tempered in their critiques. Joe totally gets that.
So that’s why it raised an eyebrow with Joe when this afternoon after the Bucs ugly loss to the Bears in London, former Bucs linebacker Ryan Nece, who co-hosts the Bucs postgame show on WDAE-AM 620 with Joe’s good friend Justin Pawlowski, was frustrated and his frustration nearly got the best of him.
Nece is irritated that the Bucs don’t seem to wake up until the clock is ticking in the second half. Nece was quite disturbed over the personal foul cornerback Aqib Talib received that cost the Bucs crucial time and may have been the difference in the game.
“Questions need to be asked,” Nece said. “Why is this team second in the league in penalties? Why are they making stupid penalties that hurt their team? Why does this team always have slow starts? The coaches need to be asked these questions.”
Joe’s been asking for weeks, specifically about the slow starts. Joe believes it’s fantastic that Bucs coach Raheem Morris can always rally his team in the second half and that he is able to adjust on the fly. But what exactly is going on during the week leading up to the game? Why are rarely the Bucs ahead of their opponent in terms of preparation, rather than having to almost always play catch-up?
Joe doesn’t think it’s outrageous to suggest the Bucs bring in a consultant — say, Brian Billick just to throw a name out — to be with the Bucs coaching staff all week and to monitor practices and film sessions and get a fresh opinion and offer tweaks that could end these sluggish starts.
Companies — including NFL teams — hire consultants all the time.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:52 pm
How dare you question the mighty Raheem!!!
He can do no wrong!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Agree 100 % change of cordinators will be nice too Defensivly too
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Sounds good to me Rah needs another defensive coach sort of how Lovie and Rivera were in Chicago and another more hands on consultant since this team is young everything needs to be hands on
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I totally agree, why on 1st and 2nd down we are in the same formation 90% of the time? You can run the ball from DIFFERENT Formations, can’t you? Why are there plays where Josh is stuck on 1 player for the entire play? This team is banking that EVERYTHING goes there way, from Free Agency (they believe in the draft and ALL there picks Have to work out) on Offense throwing passes for 2 yards hoping that someone can make a play. Not keeping Caddy, they believe in Lumpkin. This is NOT a playoff team, you don’t see the elite teams come out week after week with the same formation on 1st down, the better teams ATTACK the defense. Our plays take TOO long to develop. Like I said this is not a playoff team, its an average team at best right now. This offense scares NOBODY!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Couldn’t agree more with Ryan. He hit the nail on the head. The only thing is as soon as Raheem is asked those questions we’ll get classic Rah cliches. Can’t wait!
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Joe- Maybe its the youth of SO many of the players the cant all be Ronde Barber and know the play before its snapped. Just wait till a year or two from now when AJ Clayborn and Mason foster can read a play before the snap like Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher. The talent is there but its all so young. We never see a Bucs player sniff a play out before its snapped except for Ronde. Why??? Because of experience. The sky isn’t falling. Not when the majority of your team is UNDER 25 AND TALENTED WITH MANY MORE SUCCESSFUL RAHMINIK DRAFT PICKS TO COME. Its always the suckass radio personalities who didnt do crap in their own careers that are the first to criticisize i.e. Shaun King, Ryan Nece, and my namesake Beckles who was so freaking mediocre in his career but continues to think he knows what greatness looks like. And before anyone says a word I dont like Beckles. My screenname is just a joke about how hilariously hard Beckles ripped Ruud before he left.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
chargecbh- The Bucs dont run from a lot of formations because their running game with Blount and briefly Graham was based on a couple of different plays. They ran those plays routinely and defenses couldn’t stop them. They did what worked for them. With Blount, Graham, and only FB left Lorig out there was no chance for the run game to work. Any Buc fan who knows a little x and o’s knew that. Power O is the Bucs bread and butter. Can’t even run that play without a FB which the Bucs didn’t have for most of the game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Very true “Beckles” the sky is not falling but perhaps the string of successful draft picks has spoiled the fan base
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
This team is not discplined like there coach. Flags dropped passes and missed tackles.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Pretty funny, on another blog a week or so ago, they were speculating who could replace Olson, I mentioned a former Vikings guy, looks like we were thinking along the same lines.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
As far as penalties. Thats what happens when the o-line is outmatched. Especially TruSuck. You can always cant on TruSuck getting a holding\false start on 3rd and long. THIS IS NOTHING NEW FOLKS!!!! WE ARE STILL PLAYING WITH CHUCKY’S OLINE AND IT SHOWS. DOMINIK HAS GONE ALL D-LINE IN THE LAST TWO DRAFTS. MAKE NO MISTAKE O-LINE WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE NEXT COUPLE. Plus maybe a free agent acquisition. Dominik showed he knows the o-line situation is desperate when he went against his free agent grain to bid on the Cowboys Doug Free. Dominik will address this next year.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
In order to call a GM a sucess he needs to win a division Title or at least a wild card spot. Otherwise, it is nothing more that feel good speculation.
Performance, not sheep drooling, is what counts.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Finally someone with the balls to state the obvious! Come on fans, this stuff needs to stop if you want the playoffs. Week in week out the opponent comes in much more prepared, gets a substantial lead, and Free is forced to throw too often with the other team expecting it.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Thomas is right. It’s obvious our opponents are regularly more prepared to play than us. There’s no denying that. Our offense does not move the ball until the 4th quarter. It’s time for answers, we’ve put up with enough of this crap.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Better prepared than the Bucs? Isn’t that why Rah took the team to London early this year? Or maybe it was to allow Talib more time to party on the town and poke his fingers into the local’s eyes!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
@Joe
If we brought in a consultant, Bill Parcells would be my choice. He’s always been one of my favorite all time NFL coaches.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Really doubt these guys will bring in a consultant, especially with all the “rock star GM” and “Raheem being the perfect coach for this young team” talk they read on various web sites and publications out there. Dominik seems pretty clear in the interviews he’s given that he feels VERY confident they’re doing things the right way, regardless of what anyone says or the results.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
What’s worse is the lack of accountability! Especially from Josh Freeman. I promise you that on his radio show he gives us the old “yeah I think I played ok…we just need to execute better”. Really Josh? I swear these guys think the fans are stupid. Yeah they need to execute better but the first step is admitting your not as good as you think. Have a little humility Josh. Your hubris is killing you…and your next contract.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
OH THE HATERS ARE OUT IN FORCE ALL TWO OF THEM(ERIC AND THOMAS) AND THEIR LEGION OF SUPPORTERS WHO ONLY POST AFTER A LOSS.
HEY THOMASS- HOW MUCH OF INSIDE PASS RUSH DID THE INFINTELY SUPERIOR PRICE AND OKAM GET AGAINST CUTLER???
THE SAME PASS RUSH THEY GOT AGAINST BREES LAST WEEK—–NONE!!!!!
Dont worry though your secret mancrush GMC will be back after the bye to shut your faggot(british cigarette smoking) ass up.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I agree Joe…except for one word. CONSULTANT! This staff routinely gets out prepared and out coached. The clock is ticking on the ‘talent’ on this team. Do you waste another two years then get a different staff so hey have to start over from scratch? I know the players would “go to war” (I hate that phrase BTW) for Raheem, and I ave been trying to give him the benefit f the doubt but I’m also becoming tired of weekly having my Sunday ruined by an under-performing, out-coached albeit talented team.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Agreed @becklesheartrudd these haters only come out after a loss. We played badly and still had a chance to win at the end. Freeman in my mind threw 3 picks (that throw to mwill was on the money, but Mwill with another drop) Point is you cant play this badly have so many penalties and turnovers and win. Free has to pick up his game now as in right after the by week, and learn how to play against a zone. M will can you please find your hands? Mark d f spann isn’t good or ready (which he’s probably not, go out and sign portis tomorrow). Portis still has some game left enough to hold us off if blount’s gone any longer. I still have us right were I thought we would be record wise. I think the second half of this season could be way better if we get it together and stop with the penalties (and refs calling the bull&%$* ones against us.) Seriously I didn’t see the penalty on talib that last call but it sure looked like bull to me.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
The Buc’s preparation for games is apparently awful. The lack of discipline on the both sides of the ball is not good. I believe today I witnessed the beginning of the end of Talib.
They trail the 2nd half of every game but seem to decide to play the last 10 minutes of the game. The Bucs can’t win a nationally televised game ever. They will not make the “playoffs”(insert Jim Mora sound bite).
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
you can have all the game plans you want but if you give up vast sums of run yardage, while tacking like the keystone cops, it aint gonna work.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
I love how none of the Raheem sympathizers address any of Nece’s questions…
Why is that?
This team is undisciplined. Period. That’s the reason for all of the penalties. And that goes right back to the head coach. Talib’s penalty at the end of game is a perfect example. He coddles players. He doesn’t coach them. Because he doesn’t know how.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
the preparation or lack there of is obvious…
the penalties …
no discipline …
as a huge homer it is starting to get to me. I know they are young but enough already
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
as a huge homer it is starting to get to me. I know they are young but enough already”
Its not “getting to” you. You’re just waking up from the Raheem daze that a lot of Bucs fans are in. They think that just because he drafted Freeman that he can do no wrong. They think that just because Freeman bailed him out 6 or 7 times last year, that this is a well coached team.
The fact is, this team is coached no different than when they went 3-13. They start slow, they make a lot of dumb penalties and they rarely look prepared.
Its the 4th quarter comebacks that alter reality around here.
Raheem has 17 wins in 3 years. 8 of those were 4th quarter comebacks by Freeman. Take those away and everyone would see the reality… that Raheem SUCKS.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I always try to be positive as much as I can about some good young players, such as Adrian, Blount, McCoy, Price, Free, Foster, etc. I am excited to see how they grow and produce. Mike Williams is terrifying me now. On the other hand we have players that we have been “counting on” to grow such as Biggers, Black, Benn, Trueblood, etc. These guys are regressing not improving; Biggers is clearly awful gets beaten regularly short and deep. When Roy Willams is picking on you, we have issues.
This is the 3rd year of this regime; most teams give 3-4 years to coaches and gm’s outside of Houston to make the playoffs. I don’t think many people thought this was a SB type team; thought 8-10 wins maybe a playoff berth. I do think other than a game or 2 in the past few years we are clearly outcoached and/or outhustled in the first 2-3 quarters, stats show it. NFL teams don’t have 4-6 year building plans to make the playoffs anymore. It gets old hearing, wait 2-3 years to see these guys they are going to be great. Dom (if he even could) didn’t surround this team which much depth other then WR or D-Line or offensive team speed.
Lets see how,with whom, and hopefully what consultant they come out of the bye week with, should be interesting. Saints have Colts and Rams back to back, they are looking at 6-2.
October 23rd, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Fire Gregg Olsen. Demote Raheem to defensive coordinator.(Who actually thinks he’s better at hc than dc?) And get a head coach who can get these players under control and prepared on sunday. This team has too much talent to waste it.
October 24th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Offense is awful!!!!!
October 24th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Ryan Nece is right, these questions need to be asked.
But this is not the time or place to fire anyone.
Sorry, but this loss is also due to the damn injury bug, much as some refuse to admit it.
October 24th, 2011 at 8:06 am
The RB situation could have and should have been addressed in the off season. This was the one area I was concerned about over everything else. You can’t expect to get lucky and not have RB injuries. More than anything; this team is suffering from lack of off season training. No excuses for Trueblood, but the rest of the young guys are just not on the same page yet.
October 24th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Maybe a consultant could help Rah pack his peanut butter sandwich and sparkly twinky every day.
Youngry baby, thats what we are!
October 24th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I don’t know where you would go to find the numbers, with the exception of looking up every box score, but I would like to know where the Bucs rank in the league when it comes to “illegal shift” penalties. Without knowing the answer, I’d put money on the fact that they are top 3 in the NFL. THAT’S the sign of coaching: you can’t get your guys to LINE UP the right way. And it’s not like it’s an isolated incident – it happens AT LEAST once a game.