Talib Likes The Falcons’ Pick
April 28th, 2011
Whoa, the hated Falcons just pulled off a stunner, trading four picks including two No. 1 picks to Cleveland for the 2011 No. 6 overall pick. Then the Falcons grabbed stud wide receiver Julio Jones.
Hmmmmm, Roddy White and Julio Jones will face the Bucs twice a year. It sure would be nice for the Bucs to have a talent like Aqib Talib to cover one of those guys.
Mark Dominik did say the Bucs can never have enough cornerbacks, but Joe suspects Talib is smiling somehere about now as his odds of remaining a Buccaneer might have improved.
April 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
now i will say it!!!
WE NEED TALIB MORE THAN EVER!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Uhm im not scared of jones at all so raw. he will need a yr or two.
April 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
How STUPID of Atlanta, Hooray For Tampa. Jones is an injury waiting to happen. One can only hope and PRAY Nick Fairly is still there when we pick!
April 28th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
This is sooo great for tampa they got rid of sooo many pics
April 28th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
picks*
April 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Yeah Joe. Don’t forget when Calvin Johnson SHREDDED our defense last year WITHOUT Talib.
Oh, and the Redskins also poured on 416 yards on us WITHOUT Talib. We won that game but just because a botched extra point.
Don’t let the 4-1 record fool you. Maybe we were able to win without Talib, including the lucky win over WSH, but Biggers couldn’t get turnovers like Talib did consistently all year. He was the playmaker.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I think this shows more what I was saying. We need a CB in the 1st if we can’t get Robert Quinn. Maybe Prince will fall, if not Jimmy Smith has to be our pick!
See what happens with Talib, and draft either Prince or Smith and that will help ease this. Julio Jones is nasty and ready to play from day one! Him and Roddy White…ouch. With Matt Ryan throwing to them, we have to get MUCH better at CB to have a chance!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Quinn just got past Houston…god let him drop!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Need to pressure Matt Ryan. We need DE in the first with #20. Trade back in first and get Jimmy Smith. Cmon Bucs make a power move! Im soooo pumped Im ready for the season to start RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
how awesome would it be if prince falls to 20?!
AND we keep talib
April 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
C’ mon robert quinn!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
trade with Det. who wants to trade and get Quinn if vikings don’t draft him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
WhyTF would anyone pay that ransom for a WR? Especially when you have a #1 WR already?
Rich McKay always has and always will be a bad GM. Only Bruce Allen was worse for the Bucs.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Did I just hear something about Robert Quinn and a brain tumor?! Can someone please inform me?
April 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Christian Ponder at #12 WTF!!!! didn’t see that one coming!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Quinn has tumor but they said it is not serious and won’t be an issue.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
FSU!!! good for christian ponder, as well as the bucs because the hopes of robert quinn are still alive…
April 28th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
2011 1st, 2nd and 4th and 2012 1st and 4th round picks for a WR who is probably not even the best receiver in this draft.
I would be furious if I was an Atlanta fan.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Quinn could make it to 20 if NE doesn’t get him!!! god lets hope!!!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
I agree funky munkey, the patriots can suck it! Quinn must be ours.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Hey if the Bucs are gonna be stupid and dump Talib, Amukamara might still be up for grabs.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Umm…Jones was rated just as high as AJ Green. He blocks like a beast and will be deadly with most teams #1 CB covering Roddy White. Matt Ryan just got a Christmas present REALLY early!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Who would you take between Quinn or Prince if they were both somehow there??? I would go Quinn all day!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
HOW BOUT WE KEEP TALIB AND SIGN ASOMOGHA
April 28th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Prince will drop to 20… no one left will want him. I think Quinn could even possibly drop below 20 along with bowers.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Quinn, definetly
April 28th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
April 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Akeem Ayers…
April 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
STL needs a DT way worse than DE and they took him….OMFG this blows!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
S.O.B. the rams are on my HATE list
April 28th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
nm… lol but st.louis?!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Come on either Prince or Jimmy Smith!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Bowers is next for my fav personally he is a beast and we need him
April 28th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
But Bowers is only gonna play for 3-5 years tops! if Prince or Smith are gone then the value is there to get him but we need CB more than a questionable knee! IMO
April 28th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
don’t be surprised if we get a TE considering winslows knee is hanging from a thread, a TE may be good for freeman to work with, but i still want bowers
April 28th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
no TE is good enough to go at pick 20 in this draft. CB,DE,OT has to be one of those. I think a run on DE’s is about to start so its CB or OT IMO
April 28th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Agreed, but we still have some young corners that may be good enough, we need a linebacker or at least a run stopper
April 28th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
DJ Williams in the 3rd round would be awesome if that could happen!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
mark ingram looks like he is about to murder someone…
April 28th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Hahaha lmao…yea he is thats funny!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
just lost kerrigan and i think NE gets Cameron Jordan and thats it for DE worth drafting #20 IMO
April 28th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
once again i agree, now its down to bowers or god knows who…
April 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
UMMMMM… Im gonna comment on Talib I guess.
JOE!!!- Why no live draft discussion??? Next year man!!! Do it!!!
Now I REALLY hope Talib gets charges dropped and Goodell lets him defend his sister unpunished.(Whether thats what really happened or not this is business folks!!!) But seriously the trade for Julio jones doesnt change the bucs board. I dont care how many weapons matt ryan has you still need to put pressure on him or he will eventually complete a pass to my grandmother. Defensive end is still the goal and this draft is playing out perfectly for the Bucs to get a coveted defensive end.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
a DE or anyother pass rusher, also, i think your grandma has better hands than julio jones
April 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
wow NE went OT…
April 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
SURPRISE!!!!! pats
April 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
The Joe that normally runs these actually had to work tonight. Gotta pay the rent.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
@gitarlvr – “But seriously the trade for Julio jones doesnt change the bucs board. ”
I don’t think anytime team would do that. Changing your draft board based on a just-drafted player that hasn’t played a down yet just doesn’t seem wise to me.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
josh:
Or draft Prince and sign Asomo?
April 28th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
I think Cam Jordan is the only one worth drafting now and he fits a 3-4 better…so CB would be the way to go I think.
April 28th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Funky Munkey:
Yeah, Jimbo Fisher has to be laughing his ass off.
“When EJ Manuel gets drafted in the first round that will be three first round quarterbacks I developed!”
April 28th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
can’t go wrong with guys that have to duck to get through doors
April 28th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
It is obvious we need a CB and DE, whoever they have higher on their draft board is who we need to take, but if Prince falls we have to take him I think! Any thoughts JOE??
April 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
@joe…..HAHAHAHAHA LMFAO I couldn’t have said it better myself!!! haha
April 28th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Its looking like daquan Bowers folks!! If his knee lasts we will have the have the next dominant truly dominant defensive end!!! Boom or bust all the way baby!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Jordan is ours!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Prince is 1 pick away!!!! Come on NYG draft Ingram PLEASE!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I believe in mark dominic, he does his research and doesnt just get lucky so now we need to hope he makes the right chjoice for our team.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Are you kidding me???? one pick away!!! haha thats funny, now its Smith or Jordan. I would go Smith cause Jordan is a 3-4 DE and I just don’t see it. But I would be happy either way. And the OT Castanzo would be ok as well.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Smith is a cover corner who puts pressure on the line of scrimage and has the speed to stay and recover down field. That would be my pick!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Joe i’ll fill in for your chats. This is killing me. LOL A live chat would be AWESOME right now.
I believe in Mark Dominic too. I really wish we could have had Prince, but we could still go with Jordan, Bowers, or even Costanzo.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Jordan or Bowers or ???
April 28th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
or trade down would be a nice option as well!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
NOOOO NOOOO NOOOO NOOOO NOOOOO. CLAYBORN are you kidding me!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
dont like this pick
April 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
The one DE I truly didn’t want them to draft. I hope he proves me wrong but this sucks!!!!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
In Dominik I trust…
April 28th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
YEAH!!! Go Adrian Clayborn, next big BUC!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Here’s a note on Clayborn
“The biggest concern in Clayborn’s case is weakening and limitation of movement to his right arm.”
Just great.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Dom. hasn’t let us down yet…lets hope they get this right!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
We need to trade up into the 1st and get bowers Quinn or Jordan. Not very confident about clayborn
April 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Ugh.
Makes me wish even more that the Gnats hadnt taken Prince. Great. We got a guy we cant move around.
And Boomer makes an attendance crack. Great
April 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
The one thing is he just said Tampa is where he wanted to be and can’t wait to get there…lets hope he produces!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I really think this is a character pick. I don’t think we EVER draft Jimmy smith in this draft unless he falls to the last round.
I will trust Mark Dominik. I really hope that this is another repeat pick of the Josh Freeman one where people hated it.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Just a heads up:
Dominik will be speaking on http://www.buccaneers.com in a few minutes.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
You take Clayborn because of how well-rounded he is and how good he is in multiple areas. Clayborn has been a 3-year starter for Iowa, a captain, had a great work ethic, been productive, and has shown fantastic instincts. He has excellent technique against the run and in getting to the quarterback. Clayborn can be very good with the bull rush, but also shows many different moves to get to the quarterback.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Don’t be fools. Adrian Clayborn was by far the safer pick. Obviously Daquan Bowers is greatly feared to be a medical bust by ALL teams if the Bucs of all teams passed on him in favor of another player with a medical red flag in Clayborn. At the end of the day even if Bowers knee holds up for a couple of productive years Clayborn is ultimately the most complete defensive end in the draft if you go by his 2009 tape. Bowers was the 2010 guy but it was only one year just as Clayborns year was 2010. Dominik knows his stuff. HE WOULD NOT PASS ON CAMERON JORDAN OF HE WAS WORRIED THAT CLAYBORN’S ERBS PALSY WOULD BE AN ISSUE. GUESS WHAT FOLKS!!!! JUST AS YOU BOOD JOSH FREEMAN SO SHALL YOU BOO ADRIAN CLAYBORN AND SO SHALL YOU BE WRONG!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
The bucs are trying to trade back into the first. Bowers too?!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Raheem Morris just walked in on Dominik’s interview and told him “you got trades to make man” and Dom went back to the draft room. Interesting…
April 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
sorry i meant clayborns year was 2009
April 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Lets hope Deputy! I hope we trade back into the 1st and get Smith. His character has checked out with many teams and lets hope he checked out with Tampa. But that is a pipe dream and we will have to wait til 2mor night to get another pick!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
@fear…where did you see that?
April 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
To all those who doubt the Clayborn pick, how did you guys feel about Freeman? Regardless, the pick is in. You now have a choice to be a fan and support him, or you can be a Thomas and b!tch and moan for 4 months.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
are we trying to get in front on NO???
April 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Freeman didnt have medical concerns.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
I don’t think they take Jimmy Smith. I think if anything they continue to watch him slide. With all of the other people sliding, someone such as Jimmy Smith should slide further.
My point, same situation last year with Mike Williams and we got him where?! Best steal of the draft. CB is not AS valued as other positions because they are only pertain a certain number of snaps a game.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
I personally wasn’t against the Freeman pick, we needed a QB and I saw alot of his college games and it was obvious he was a leader and got over his mistakes instantly. Great qualities. And Clayborn is talented and I trust Dom. so lets see, but he would’ve been there many picks after 20 IMO
April 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
@Funky
Scott Smith is doing live interviews on http://www.buccaneers.com and interrupted Dominik’s interview right after the Clayborn pick.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
LOL dont know bout this pick just watched (utube)
clayborn get ate up by tackle Camiri of Wisconsin. Didnt see anything great bout him. Watched Jordan dude is a beast think we made the wrong move. Got to have faith in Dom though.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
I agree Deputy normally, but Smith is on the same talent level as the #5 pick Patrick Peterson…thats hard to pass on even with this Talib’s trouble. But Smith is nothing like talib as a person.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Wow…thanks @fear! We need to make a move I believe but who are we trying to trade with??? if it is SEA it will be for Smith, if someone else might be for Jordan. I hope its not for Bowers!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
This “medical concern” you are discussing is an issue he has dealt with his whole life. It’s not like he has to have microfracture surgery on his knee. You guys are too funny, you actually think you know more than Dominik. Just because you have watched YouTube highlights of a player does not mean you have scouted him. That’s so wrong it’s hilarious. Talk to me if you’ve actually seen him play a couple full games. Otherwise, you are talking out of your arse.
April 28th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
@hawaiianbuc
Maybe you should do better research. He has never had a problem with it until his senior year. Which was just a few months ago. So i would see that as a problem. Saints just got Ingrahm….fffuuu_____kkkkk
April 28th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Trade with Chicago and draft Mikel Leshoure to make sure we get a stud RB since there is no longer a CB or LB worth drafting now. Mikel and Blount would be tops in the league!!!
April 28th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
@Funky Munkey,
Maybe you should do YOUR research. I’m pretty sure he was born with it! If you are going to criticize me, at least know what the hell you are talking about. He was born with Erb’s Palsy,he didn’t “develop” it his senior year. And yes, he has had a problem with it. He has underwent physical therapy for years and years. So again, who needs to do more research???
April 29th, 2011 at 12:22 am
@Funky Munkey,
That’s what I thought.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:10 am
Joe…Stop makin’ so much sense!!! Talib is the best young CB on the”football field” where the GAME is played. I don’t give a rats azz what he does off the field, as long he’s the BEST YOUNG CB on the field, IN THE LEAGUE!!!
April 29th, 2011 at 1:14 am
…and will definitely need a “BEST YOUNG CB….” on the field with Roddy White and Julio “the BEAST” Jones, facing us twice a year for, in all likelihood “all the marbles”. like our long-term, as the Birdies gave away their future for Jones. Saints are goin DOWN HARD!!!
April 29th, 2011 at 1:17 am
Erlb’s Palsy Syndrome idiots run amok. Do some research…einsteins, and there’s only one ‘commenter’ I’m referring to.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:18 am
lastly…no offense intended, of course, to the majority here.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:22 am
bucyea:
Problem with Talib is, his nonsense off the field will keep him from being on the field.
Joe can play cornerback better than Talib if Talib is sitting on his couch serving a suspension, or worse, a prison cell.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:51 am
Where you at Funky Munkey? Are you still doing your research about Erb’s palsy?
April 29th, 2011 at 2:43 am
Point taken joe, but ‘its all speculation at this point. What happens if a “dismissal’ or drop of charges or a not guilty? My point is…you don’t “give hime away” ie..cut, release, maybe a trade, but to release outright WILL NOT HAPPEN, nor should it, IMO
April 29th, 2011 at 3:49 am
Funky Munkey:
Here is a quote from Dominik: “His shoulder is fine,” Dominik said. “Erb’s Palsy is what the shoulder is. It’s something he was born with. He’s been playing with it and living with it his entire life. It’s nothing that gets worse. It’s just something that happened at birth and it’s something he’s played with his whole life. It’s not something we were concerned about at all as a medical staff.”
So remind me again, who needs to do their research???
April 29th, 2011 at 7:28 am
unless we plan to go get Nnamdi expect Talib in Pewter especially after what the Falcons did. I believe Myron will develop very nicely in the offseason even Barber said he has more natural ability than Talib
April 29th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
That Falcons trade has Rich McKay written all over it. And it should look familiar as well…he put the Bucs into the dark ages by using the same tactic.
April 29th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Too bad he’s not in any authority to make a trade. 🙂