Might Bucs Execute A Quick Signing, Trade?
April 5th, 2011
A player deal in the NFL probably takes just a few minutes to make official, especially when there could have been weeks of advance negotiations.
Sure, there’s a lockout in place, but that doesn’t stop teams from at least talking to each other about trades, or talking to player agents.
The NFL and its players are back in court tomorrow, and there’s a shot the lockout would be lifted in a matter of days after being deemed unlawful.
However, per a story today by Jonathan Tamari in the Philly Inquirer, the NFL would request an immediate stay on the ruling and appeal. But if that stay was not granted immediately, player transactions could be slammed through before the window was closed by the court.
The federal court hearing Wednesday won’t provide a final resolution, but Judge Susan Richard Nelson’s decision would leave the first imprint on a case that could greatly tip the scales in negotiations.
And her decision could open the door to player movement, even if briefly.
The players are seeking an injunction to lift the NFL lockout and force the league to resume business. This could be critical to the Eagles, who would benefit from a chance to trade backup quarterback Kevin Kolb before the draft that begins on April 28. NFL owners, though are arguing on several grounds that their lockout should remain in place, which would keep a freeze on player movement. … A decision isn’t expected until next week or later.
Joe wonders whether rock star Mark Dominik might have a trade cooked up. Maybe a second-round pick for an established young talent — a Kellen Winslow-type deal? Has he found a sucker suitor for Aqib Talib? Perhaps a take-it-or-leave-it-offer for Barrett Ruud?
Joe has no doubt that if the lockout is lifted for even 24 hours, that some NFL teams will be active. Surely, there’s a plan in the vault at One Buc Palace.
April 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Hopefully a quick signing of Nnamdi, then trade of Aqib tathug to The raiders, who will need a CB, having just lost the Best one in the NFL. It would be a nice Lil deal for us.
April 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Good luck with that, Capt.
April 5th, 2011 at 11:16 am
i Really like the kid but i think one of the most tradable guys is Josh Johnson.. if we can get a 3rd round pick or even a fourth i would take it hes going to be a free agent soon and im sure he wont want to be a career backup to freeman. he will look for greener pastures so lets get what we can for him now.
April 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Matt- from what I hear, there is a good chance of the first part. Finding anyone to sign Talib is probably wishful thinking( thanks Chucky, for a wasted first round pick). Only Joe is against signing the best CB in the NFL( but we still love him!), I think the Bucs believe this team is a contender, and will get us an intelligent , dependable CB. I think Dominick is very smart, and will dump the thug.
April 5th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Ruud and Josh Johnson are the most tradable pieces. I love having picks but to get a better MLB and acquire an extra 4th rounder would be excellent.
April 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am
And Matt- dumping Aqib and signing Nnamdi was advised by Pat Kirwan, the most knowledgeable NFL guy around. He was a former scout/coach beforemoving into journalism. He worked for the Bucs, and has inside contacts everywhere. He is the person the cynical and knowledgeable Capt. I’m has great respect for.
We’d be lucky to get a 6th rounder for former first round pick Aqib.everyone around the league knows he’s short term. If Dom gets better than a 6th, he should get executive of the year, just based on that and the Gaines Adams trade alone
Chances are we end up cutting The thug, another wasted pick!
April 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
You guys are a HOOT!!!!
the Bucs are contenders…yeah just a player or two away….let’s trade the MLB (Ruud) because he’s a weak link…..trade Talib because he’s a thug….
I guess you haven’t heard of something called CONSISTENCY have you?
This Buc’s team had a really, really good 2010 but the team ISN’T a Superbowl contender YET.
Stay the course, forget about FA’s, draft well, sit down and shut up.
Back to your regular programming….
April 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I’m pretty much in favor of any trade, or signing, or release that makes the team better. There are a number of players on this team that could be dealt and or replaced without hurting their chances of improvement. If Dom signs Nnamdiwhatever, it’s okay with me. If he chooses to keep Ruud, Talib and Tanard, I’m okay with that too, as long as the results follow. I just want to win another Super Bowl and however Dom gets us there is fine by me. I think Dom will own this draft just like the last. I am so so so glad Freeman is our QB. What a home run that was. Grand Slam.
April 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
When Donna Shalala became president at Miami, it became politically correct. Notre Dame would never take a questionable character. How do you like those records now? Three of the most revered players in the NFL are allegedly a rapist, a manslayer, and a pet killer. If Talib gets out of this legally. I’ll wager a dime to a dollar, he’s back in a Bucs uniform. I’m not saying that any of this is right, but a healthy dose of reality can be enlightening.
April 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Capt.: If Talib doesn’t serve any jail time, I still say he’ll be a Buc in 2011. But we’ll see.
April 5th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
If Talib goes to jail, it will be for a long time.
April 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Derf- consistency???? The only consistency Talib offers us is consistantly arrested, and consistantly suspended!!! Haven’t you been watching?? If you think Talib brings consistency, might wanna change that from Derf ta Dope!
I’ve never had any doubts about Ruud. The players that need upgraded are Hayes, Black, Faine, and Jones. On the bubble is Davin Joseph, who has underachieved.
April 6th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Many teams would take Talib in a heart beat, you are nuts to think they wouldn’t when teams have gone after worst in the past. Talib will remain here, Rah’s like his dad and isn’t gonna be giving up on him yet. Especially if Talib doesnt go to jail which its lookin more and more like he wont.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:26 am
I was originally against bringing in Nnamdi, but after this Talib mess, I don’t know if we have much choice in the matter.
@Capt.Tim
I don’t know. I Think each of those players you mentioned are decent enough to be in the rotation. I’m not opposed to upgrading their positions, but I think they at least make good depth.
Faine is a pure starter…except for his injuries, which are frustrating. I could see replacing him, I guess. But if it’s not with a free agent, it’s not going to happen this year. The Bucs would need a season to prepare his replacement. A trade is always possible though.
I like Black a lot. I think he’s a hard hitter, and once the Defensive Line is stabilized, I think his production will sky rocket.
Hayes? Unless he steps things up, I agree with you. But he would make decent depth at his position at least…until we replace him with more promise. As Raheem says, “We’ll tolerate you until we can replace you.”
As to your other comment about dumping Talib and signing Nnamdi, I only half agree. I’m all for signing Nnamdi, but the Bucs could keep Talib on the roster, let him serve his time on suspension, and evaluate after that.
It would not cost a roster spot to do this once he is suspended…and I’m suspecting his suspension will be close to a full season. At the end of his suspension, the Bucs can evaluate whether it’s worth holding on to him or not. Maybe this was a real eye opener for him. If Vick can change, so can Talib.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:29 am
On the topic of trades, I think our best options are Faine and Johnson. Those are the two players we could afford to lose (predraft) and that we could get some value for. Faine is still considered a top center, even with his injury history.
Josh Johnson has shown some ability and there are several teams that might want him. Afterall, I’d be willing to bet he’s better than ANY player in this years draft. Once someone gets Kolb in a trade, Johnson’s value will rise.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Rican:
For a seventh-round pick, perhaps.
Remember how teams were falling over themselves trying to get Santonio Holmes, an elite receiver? The Steelers had to settle for a late-fifth round pick and Holmes’ problems didn’t come close to Talib’s.
April 6th, 2011 at 10:09 am
lol We’ll see
A shut-down corner is much harder to come by than an elite reciever
April 7th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Rican- but a gun weilding thug, with a rap sheet, can be found onany street corners. A player who starts every season with a multiple game suspension is very rare- only because Godell won’t tolerate it. Sadly, Talib has turned into Pacman Jones. Except Talib has a documented history of escalating violence. He has lost any value he might have had. This type of guy isn’t unusual. It’s just unusual for am NFL team not to have done their homework, and passed on the guy. If he had dropped to the 6 th round, it might have sent a message to him. We(Gruden/Allen) obviously didn’t do a background check, or ignored their findings. The Reporter who covered Talib in college said he was the worst jerk he ever met( a previous article here on JoeBuc), so the truth was out there!
I don’t blame many of you for trying to support the Buc Players. Sometimes you just keep getting you hand bit, and enough is enough
Pete- agreed, those players can be upgraded, but not released. They can still help this team! Why would you ever be against signing the best player in the league at his posistion? Nnamdi is considered the best CB in the league. Even better than Darrell Revis. He won’t cost us any picks- why not. God knows we can afford him!
April 10th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Anybody that thinks the Bucs will shell out over $15,000,000 a year on a CB is either on crack or numb from the neck up.