Talib’s Defense: I Didn’t Shoot
March 31st, 2011
It seems Aqib Talib’s legal team might go for the homerun defense, which in Talib’s case would be to claim he didn’t fire a gun at the dude who allegedly was harrassing his sister.
Not self defense. Not temporary insanity. Just unabashed innocence on the felony assault with a deadly weapon charge that has rocked the Bucs.
Rick Stroud, of the St. Pete Times, dished out some details on newly-formed Team Talib preparing to bring its artillery into Texas court.
Talib has retained noted Pittsburgh sports attorney Jay Reisinger, a member of the legal teams that represented Alex Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa and Andy Pettitte. He also has hired Dallas criminal attorney Frank Perez and H. David Lozano, a private investigator of Drake Security Patrol.
Although Talib’s attorneys declined comment Wednesday, privately he’s been adamant that he did not fire a weapon during the domestic disturbance. Talib told Clint Bowen, a co-defensive coordinator during his career at the University of Kansas, that only his mom pulled the trigger.
“I talked to Aqib two days ago,” Bowen said. “I told him, ‘I just read something about you firing a gun.’ He said, ‘Man, I didn’t do a thing. It’ll all come out soon.’ He just kept saying that…He said, ‘I didn’t do that. That was my mom. It’s all going to come out.”’
Isn’t this interesting. As Joe wrote previously, Talib could very well become a sympathetic figure from this case as his legal team paints a picture of a man protecting his family from a dangerous sleazebag.
Now if there’s not enough evidence to prove Talib used the gun — that doesn’t mean he didn’t — surely Talib will be a playmaker on the field for the Bucs next season unles Mark Dominik and Raheem Morris have crafted a radically new discipline policy.
March 31st, 2011 at 9:24 am
>>Now if there’s not enough evidence to prove he used the gun — that doesn’t mean he didn’t<<
What?
There's also not enough evidence Talib raped and murdered a girl back in 2007. Doesn't mean he didn't.
March 31st, 2011 at 9:24 am
Like I said before……I’ll wait till all the facts come out before I pass judgement.
March 31st, 2011 at 9:43 am
They put me in the lineup
And let the bright lights shine
There was ten poor dudes like me
Standing in that line
I knew I was the victim
Of somebody’s evil plan
When this scroungy looking dude
Came up and said, yeah
That’s him, man
Hey, wait a minute, man
I been framed, man
Aw, listen to me, judge
I was framed
March 31st, 2011 at 9:56 am
Well now, isn’t this an interesting development?
IF Shannon Billings is the states main witness, and both Talib’s mother and sister give statements that Talib did not fire a gun, then the most he could face charges for is assault (for hitting the man with his own gun), and on that he can plead self defense.
What I’m curious to know is this:
Will everyone here and in the media automatically assume this latest news is all a lie, or will they actually give Talib the benefit of the doubt?
What is he’s telling the truth?
If he is, it would make sense that he hire H. David Lozano to investigate the claims any witnesses are making.
If this proves out to be true, a lot of media guys are going to look like total judgemental arses. They will have reported unsubstantiated news and condemned a man when their own assumptions were based on lies and unsupported facts.
I bet no one saw this one coming 😉
March 31st, 2011 at 9:58 am
Toke, toke it up, man!
Kinda grabs ya’ by the boo-boo, don’t it?
March 31st, 2011 at 9:58 am
Innocent until proven guilty. Tampa Bay fans should keep that in mind.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:00 am
I hope to God this is true then all the media and fans that were willing to rush to judgement can line up and kiss Talibs ass.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:02 am
@Pete Dutcher,
No one in the media has claimed that Talib is guilty. Most media members are just talking about how he continues to put himself in these situations. Even if he hadn’t fired the gun, he’s still a magnet for these kind of unsavory events. How can he be a dependable leader for the Bucs if he can’t even convince his mother not to carry a gun, whereby violating her felony probation?
Even if he gets off, which I hope for the Bucs’ sake, he does, Talib’s issues still need to be discussed.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:05 am
Oh, you had to put Johhnie Cochran on the thread. “If the glvoe don’t fit, you must acquit.”
March 31st, 2011 at 10:09 am
Damn! He might have been protecting his sister, but he sure threw his mom under the bus. “It wasn’t me firing, it was my mom.” I’m sure mom’s attorneys aren’t too pleased about that.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:13 am
“How can he be a dependable leader for the Bucs if he can’t even convince his mother not to carry a gun, whereby violating her felony probation?”
you’re seriously reaching, bud…
March 31st, 2011 at 10:15 am
Honestly, when is the last time you were able to tell a parent what to do? Just as Raheem is not responsible for the actions of his players, neither is Talib responsible for his mother’s actions.
And, all those media guys did assume guilt. They were not suggesting Talib be cut before this incident. They insisted because of their assumptions of guilt.
Not once in previous days did I hear or read one of them say, “If these charges are true, then the Bucs should…”
No. They automatically assumed guilt and insisted the Bucs cut him. Heck, I even heard certain members of the media insult Talib based on their assumptions.
And not once did any of them even consider the possibility that even if true, Talib might have been justified.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:21 am
1 question ?? Why did they not test for Gun powder residue on Talib and his Mom’s hands ??
March 31st, 2011 at 10:29 am
Is everyone forgetting these people are supposed to be role models, not thugs. The fact he was involved in this kind of incident at all is disturbing. Call the police next time moron. Then we won’t have to ponder if he’s guilty or not.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:31 am
With people on this board Mike Williams would have been cut before the 49ers Game .. How would that have worked out ??
March 31st, 2011 at 10:34 am
HIRE GREG OLSON
Did Al Davis hire you as the director of college scouting?
REEEEACH!!!!
March 31st, 2011 at 10:45 am
Maybe Talib is innocent, but he is still guilty by association, and stupid. He never should have put himself in that situation to begin with. He has so much to lose and didn’t think it through. He could have easily given “Big Mama Thug” an envelope full of cash to hire some not so local “Gangstas” to do the dirty deed on Billings. Let things cool down a bit, then strike.
Swift, Silent, Deadly.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:50 am
Maybe Sista Shiniqua Talib will side with Billings and the 2 of them were just playing a friendly little game of “Smack My B!tch Up”. It could have been an over-reaction by Mama & A-Thug. Always check your door lock before you initiate sex. Never fails, someone will always walk in on you.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:07 am
“Talib might have been justified.” Really?
This isn’t a cable show with Timothy Oylmphant!
Look, I get the fact he was coming to his sisters defense, but pistol whipping and shooting at someone (still no definitive proof he didn’t?) are WRONG and ILLEGAL! It wasn’t like he just happened to be there and all of sudden he was thrust into some sort of non-consciousness thinking. He drove there and had time to think it out. I don’t care if he pulled the trigger or not, it was on his mind, cause he pulled the gun (ie tried to pistol whipp the Billings). The only time you pull a gun is to use it, period!
With that said, I do agree, he shouldn’t be released unless charged. But, his repeated thug attitude needs to be addressed and controled.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:17 am
OAR:
“Look, I get the fact he was coming to his sisters defense, but pistol whipping and shooting at someone (still no definitive proof he didn’t?) are WRONG and ILLEGAL! ”
actually, you’re wrong. i don’t know if you’re new to this country, but we’re pretty big on self defense. check ammendmants 1-5 for a refresher.
it will be determined whether it’s illegal or justified in the court of law, braniac.
like pete has said a million friggin times. “innocent until proven guilty.” you prejudice jerks.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:20 am
“then all the media and fans that were willing to rush to judgement can line up and kiss Talibs ass”
Sure.
The dude punched a cab driver in the back of the head. Who does that? 99% of people in NY City don’t even engage in that behavior. Many cabs have bullet proof glass and cages BECAUSE of nut jobs like Aqub Talib.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:21 am
Innocent…..lets for a second assume that he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Honestly guys….how long do you think its going to be before the next headline is that he has been killed or killed somebody.
Like I said, innocent of this charge or not….he is completely undependable and a loose cannon.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:22 am
@OAR
That “Pistol Whipping” statement was something Billings claimed.
But what if Billings were making an aggresive move at Talib’s sister and Talib hit him with the gun rather than shoot him?
All the facts are not yet known, yet you (and others) are making huge assumptions here.
“WRONG and ILLEGAL” would only apply if it were not self defense or in defense of his mother and sister.
At the point when it is claimed Talib shot at him, Billings was “running away with Talib’s gun”. What if it comes out that Billings had turned and raised that gun as if to fire it at them as he ran?
That would mean self defense.
And then you have the property issue. Billings had Talib’s property (the gun) and had tresspassed. In Texas, it is LEGAL to shoot someone under those circumstances, even if they are fleeing.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:24 am
Taking a gun to someone else’s house for the purpose of protection during confrontation is the complete opposite of self-defense. That is why we have police. If Aqib was staying at “Mama Thug’s” house and Sista’s boyfriend came over there, it’s a different circumstance.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:24 am
At this point who cares if he is innocent or guilty. He’s not worth the headache and bad publicity. Cut his ass after he is replaced, which I believe will happen. He’s a bad investment and bad investments are always gonna hurt you financially and emotionally draining.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:26 am
Didn’t this incident happen at Billing’s home and not Mama’s???
Anybody?
March 31st, 2011 at 11:27 am
@BigMacAttack
Billings had a restraining order and was in voilation of it. For all Talib knew, Billings could have been armed.
There goes that assumption of guilt again.
Some might feel it’s wrong to assume Talib is not guilty. To them, I would point to the right to be innocent until proven guilty. The assumption, by constitutional right, is not supposed to be of guilt, but of innocence.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:32 am
@BigMacAttack
There are conflicting reports on that. I’ve seen it reported both ways…which is another reason people should wait until all the facts are out.
March 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am
lowered
Hatched and raised 4 plus decades in this great country of ours!
BTW how did you know I like bran?
March 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am
BigMac
Exactly! Maybe some should check the definiton of self-defense?
March 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
Pete
All the facts are not yet known, yet you (and others) are making huge assumptions here.
Since you seem to know all the facts, just what exactly are my assumptions I’m making?
March 31st, 2011 at 11:51 am
Pete
“What if it comes out that Billings had turned and raised that gun as if to fire it at them as he ran?”
“But what if Billings were making an aggresive move at Talib’s sister and Talib hit him with the gun rather than shoot him?”
I see you are using the “What if”s too? Practice what you preach, man!
March 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
I love how the words of a violent sex offender are stated as gospel without any qualification as Bucs fans rush to condemn our best defensive player. “He pistol whipped him”, and the like.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:04 pm
MVPFreeman,
What the hell are you talking about?
March 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Oahubuc
So only crimnals are liars now? You can be a stand up citizen (or football player) and be a liar.
No, I’m not saying Talib is lying, but the same can be said for him, no? You know, the gospel word of our best defensive player “I didn’t shoot at him”, and the like.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I find it hard to believe he was coming to his sisters aid with just his fists? Maybe, unless he’s got those Sheen’s “flaming fists of fury”.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Hire
Don’t about worry about MVP. I remember my first beer, too.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Regardless, of what happens, the Bucs can not cut him because he is not legally under the auspices of the NFL and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at this point in time. They have no say in his personal or professional life during the lock out. As far as the NFL is concerned, the incident never happened.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Lets look back .. Talib is no Angel … But the guy that was arrested that night for being a woman beater was the guy that was shot at .. One fact that I dont believe was posted on JBF is that he also has as a sexual assault of some sort on a 14 yr old.
If a guy that has beat your sister or Girlfriend or whatever and he was a dirtbag and broke his restraining order and shows up again .. I would shoot his a$$ too .. Just saying we dont know the story in total .. And we should hold judgement until facts are known.
This is not a nightclub fight or bar brawl or making it rain at the local strip club … This is a woman beating sexual predator being where he was not supposed to be and Talib losing his cool .. AND being dumb for not calling police .. But other than that I will wait until things are settled before we should our best Defensive player.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:30 pm
OAR,
We usually see eye to eye but man you are defending a cause that’s not yours to defend and I stated earlier the point is his decision making is the problem. You cannot trust one of your cornerstones to behave like this, regardless. I have had a situation similar and yes I took my gun to my sister but I calmly walked in the house, told the idiot “I am armed and I expect you to leave and her to leave with me. I didn’t come to fight or argue, I came to remove her from this situation.”
Now the real reason I didn’t pull my gun out is because not only am I living for my 3 kids but if I am locked up and put away, after the emotions wear off she can go back to this fool and start screwing him again while Bubba is watching me…
Now I don’t earn nearly the wage that Talib earns for a living but I identified a greater cause, even though I armed myslef for that cause also to protect my family just in case. But this crap is following him you cannot tell me that as a lover of the Bucs you cannot tell me that you want to this negative pub every year?
Stop defending his decision making and hold him accountable. I am sure he will get oof some sort of way but its all about time not if remember. I am not one of these delusional fans saying Lewis and Biggers can make up for losing him but I am saying that the Bucs must move now! I wouldn’t mind if Harris was the 2nd round pick and they signed a FA but counting on him would be a very bad thing to do.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Its not about Billings! Who cares if he raped a Catholic Priest, Aqib is not the law and has not business pistol whipping (attempting) and shooting at this idiot because he is a millionare that could pay to have this loser erased or badly hurt enough to send a message. Not even a King;s ransom either. Hell I would have did it, I live near Garland and know where that property is. It’s about 25 minutes from where I am. And I told you all the Garland Police would make this stick because Aqib is no stranger for this crap in Dallas. We knew of him before you Tampa residents did and so does the cops.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@OAR
Yeah I don’t know what the hell he was referring to with the “REACH” comment.
In regards to your argument, I agree. I’m not interested in playing the “What if’s” when the characters are: Talib, his gun-toting mom Okolo, and this womanizer Billings. To be honest, society would be a lot better off without the likes of all 3. It would be nice to have this event somehow not affect the Bucs and Talib, but even in that unlikely best-case scenario, the Bucs have to question Talib’s critical thinking skills or lack there of. You can’t depend on this guy. He’s got more talent than Ronde and Brian Kelly. But you could depend on those guys.
I hate to see him go. But that’s what winning franchises do (see Steelers with Plaxico and Holmes). NEXT.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Architek
What cause do you think I’m defending?
I did write;
“With that said, I do agree, he shouldn’t be released unless charged. But, his repeated thug attitude needs to be addressed and controlled.”
Now, is releasing him the only way to address and control said attitude, well maybe?
March 31st, 2011 at 12:42 pm
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March 31st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Except that in my case, I am following the very foundations this country were built upon. I am merely upholding the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, as is Talib’s constitutional right.
In the scenarios, I was pointing out various possibilities that could be the case. I did not make the claim that Billings did indeed do that. I said “What if?”
In your case, there is no “What if?”
You’ve already made up your mind.
Once again, you are saying I made a claim that I really did not make. I said no one should judge until all the facts are known. In no way at any point did I say I knew all the facts.
Really, Oar, I fail to understand how you cannot understand this. Surely you are not a child or you would be in school. You are able to write and spell, so you are not uneducated.
So I can only assume that if you were accused of a crime, booked and released on bail, you would want everyone to just forego your trial and assume you are guilty?
No…I doubt you would want that, because then you would be held to the same standard you use to judge others.
And I don’t mean that as an insult, I truly do not. I am merely attempting to clarify my point by giving examples. My hope is that you and others will understand that.
Yes, Talib might be guilty. Maybe Billings is completely innocent of any wrong doing and is truly the victim.
But by the same token, maybe it is the complete opposite. You should be able to understand this.
For example, one time I was walking along Nebraska Avenue carrying my Bible and a tap player which was playing Christian music (this is years and years ago). I was not paying attention to my surroundings until I sensed movement as I crossed a side street.
As it turned out, a group of people from a house party down that street had been exchanging words with the people in a bar on the other side of Nebraska. I just happened to walk between them right when they were walking out to get in a massive street fight.
Next thing I know, the people from the house party were attacking me, assuming I was a part of the other group. I defended myself well enough, and they eventually backed off after I made it clear I would not go down easily.
The people from the bar had backed down completely and fled back to the bar.
So…had the police been called, when they arrived they would have seen three men from the house party lying on the ground injured (one unconscious) and five others bruised up and regretting their actions.
I was outnumbered in that case, so they would have been able to claim I had started it all and I would have been arrested.
So tell me…would you have assumed that I were a guilty man?
This is a true story and clearly illustrates my point. Hopefully, you will see that sometimes the truth does not come out until later, and that is why people are assumed innocent until proven guilty.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
And for the criminals who visit the site and can read, you have an ad about expunging the records… 🙂
You sir, ARE A GENIUS!
March 31st, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Arkitect,
Are you the same guy who called up Steve Duemig yesterday and said that Garland PD is no stranger to the Talib family and then consequently were made to look like an idiot when Duemig interviewed the a representative of Garland PD and said that that claim is unfounded. That Talib had a minor brush with the law in high school but it was not a major issue.
Or did you just hear that guy while streaming Duemig’s show??
March 31st, 2011 at 12:51 pm
@Pete Dutcher,
You are right but the only issue I have with your argument is that you haven’t said much about the main reason we are all on this site, The Bucs. No one ios bigger than the brand so, your stance on Aqib is cool, tell your opinion of what you think the Bucs should do. Give us the other side, it’s easy to play devil’s advocate because your not making a decision but you make a decision if you were the organization.
March 31st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Pete
I understand and must have misread some of your comments, that I apologize. I think we are saying the same thing just from opposite ends. You say “he might have been justified”. I’m saying, “how do you know he’s justified?” I only go by the police reports stated in articles. So, you say, “Billings might be lying?” I say, “Talib could be lying?”
Now do you understand my point? Can go both ways.
BTW when ALL invloved are repeat offenders, it’s tough to tell!
March 31st, 2011 at 1:16 pm
First of all, this is a comment section on a website, if you can’t have quasi freedom of speech here, THEN WHERE CAN YOU HAVE IT???
Perhaps Peter wants to control people’s discussion points?
Pete, you are alone with the non-criminals, and in bed with the convicts. Enjoy trying to tell everyone to stop discussing this topic as if it is no big deal, as if Talib won’t miss any games due to suspension. Good luck with that one!
March 31st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
@Oar
That makes sense 🙂
@WeNeedDefense
Sigh…I am not saying peoples opinions do not count and should not be expressed. I am saying that those opinions should be qualified with a complete understanding of the true situation.
I can agree that if Talib is guilty as charged, he should be suspended for at least a year and the Bucs should consider cutting him. I can also agree that there might be more that we don’t know about, and so rash judgements would be unwise. If the Bucs were able and did cut him right away, then later found out that there was much more to the story and the charges were dropped, they would look like idiots and we would be out a good player.
I’m all for making examples of guilty parties…I just think we should be 100% sure they are guilty first.
March 31st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Pete Dutcher:
Bucs were able and did cut him right away, then later found out that there was much more to the story and the charges were dropped, they would look like idiots and we would be out a good player.
There are two things you simply for whatever reason fail to grasp:
1. Roger Goodell is going to suspend this guy, no matter what a Texas court decides.
2. You seem to be quite confident that Talib will never, ever have a run-in with the law again. What in his personal history suggests that? If anything, as Joe has documented, his incidents grow worse and more violent.
March 31st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I guess “We Really Need Defense Now”.
March 31st, 2011 at 1:42 pm
1. I have no doubt of that. So I do grasp that point. Even if cleared of shooting, Talib engaged in violence. However, I just understand that all facts are not yet known, and that Billings could have been up to no good as well. If it turns out that Talib only struck Billings because the man was being aggressive and Talib considered him a threat, then it would have been justified by law.
2. I never once addressed that, so I do not see how you can make that claim about me. Regardless, a person cannot be tried for crimes the authorities think he might commit in the future. Future crimes are not the issue…the current crime is. And the past incidents have already been dealt with.
I just believe this incident should be judged on it’s own merits, once the facts are known.
March 31st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I’m not a big fan of control, but I am a fan of idiot control, and it sure would be nice if people had to demonstrate their ability to use a gun before they were allowed to purchase one. I would have no problem being forced to go to a qualifying range every 5 years or so to maintain a gun license. One thing’s for sure with Aqib and his Mama is that the apple sure didn’t fall far from the tree. I can only imagine what Baby Aqib’s Daddy must have been like.
I wonder what Antonio Bryant is doing these days. Hmmm???
March 31st, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Peter Dutch:
You stated,” Future crimes are not the issue…the current crime is. And the past incidents have already been dealt with.”
This is not accurate, he still was finishing public service hours…from the cab incident. Peter give it up, you are outnumbered…
March 31st, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Could it be Aqib is telling the truth?
I have my doubts but I certainly hope so.
I want to know if 911 was called, who made the call and why were
Aqib and his mother at the scene before the police and with a loaded GUN!
It doesn’t LOOK good but I am willing to admit I do not know all the facts.
March 31st, 2011 at 5:54 pm
omg i hope this guy stays on the team hes soo good in madden for the bucs lol
March 31st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
@OAR:
I’m not taking anyone’s word as gospel. I wasn’t there.
March 31st, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Every year, Talib has been involved in an “incident”. Attacking Cory Byrd, Attacking Donald Penn(subsequently injuring Torrie Cox),assulting the Cabbie, being restrained from assaulting the referees in the tunnel last year. Now, “the
Barker Family meets Garland” scumbag shootout. Joe’s right, it’s a cycle of escalating violence. Talib is an idiot. We can’t depend on him
Pete- what’s wrong with you? This is the kinda guy you want representing Tampa and the Bucs?? This piece of crap is the guy you want your kids cheering for on Sundays? You want to ignore all his previous history? Why? Because you think he can play football really well?
Sorry pal, somethings are even more important than football- which is by the way just a game. This guy can’t be counted on. He is a thug. He lied about smoking Pot. He lied about hitting Cory Byrd first. He lied about assaulting the Cabbie, denying it until he plea bargained down.now he is willing to let his mommy take the fall, so he can make enough money to buy her out
Who does this guy need to kill before we stop making excuses for him, and realize we need more Josh Freeman’s- who fight for our team, and no thugs like Talib- who fights without any thoughts of the team. You dont win superbowls with scumbags like Aqib and TJack. We need to shoot Gruden yet another bird, and cut these two clowns loose
Let’s build a team our kids can cheer for, and Tampa can be proud of
March 31st, 2011 at 10:23 pm
WHAT IF IT WAS YOU?
April 1st, 2011 at 2:48 am
Joe,correct me if I am wrong, but Goodell may not be able to suspend him, since it happened during a lockout. I know he said he can, but from what I have heard, that will be fought by the players. Besides, even the warden won’t suspend him until he knows more facts.
Look, I agree with everyone that he probably cannot be trusted. We should almost definitely start working towards finding a replacement. However, I don’t see why there should be a rush to judgment. What if (and I know this is a big what if and highly unlikely) we later find out he is truly innocent, but we have already cut him? We just simply don’t know the facts. It’s not even known whose house it happened at. I think this situation in particular deserves time to play out, because we are dealing with the safety of his family. Most men would do anything they can to protect their family, so I give him a little more of a pass as a result.
Again, I am not saying he’s innocent or we should definitely keep him, but just let it play out a little before you want to end someone’s career. If he’s guilty, cut him and throw him in jail. But if he is not (however remote of a chance that is), then I still want him on this team. And yes, that is because he is good at football. Sorry folks, that’s the way the world works, no matter what career you are in.
April 1st, 2011 at 7:22 am
Talib past has not given bucs fans any sense of trust, i get that. Yet, i wish we could at least wait until all the facts come out before nailing em to the cross.
April 1st, 2011 at 8:02 am
Brock, I would have called the cops and let them shoot him.
“Mama Thug” or “A-Thug” should have invested in a Taser instead of a pistol. They could have tased Billings repeatedly and had a good laugh in the process, watching him squirm on the ground.
April 1st, 2011 at 9:55 am
Oahubuc
Well, praise the good Lord! Me neither, only what’s been reported as police reports in the news. Got any other info, I should use to make my opinion?
April 1st, 2011 at 10:34 am
What’s going to happen is when a new CBA is signed, language will be included that Goodell’s powers of spanking players who misbehave will be retroactive to cover the period during the lockout.