Team Glazer Could Play Hardball In NFLPA Spat
January 17th, 2011
Enjoy the next three NFL games Bucs fans. Because they very well could be the last three games for some time, and not just until September.
Unless something drastic occurs, the storm clouds of a labor stoppage of some sort are gathering like a Florida summer afternoon thunderstorm. It doesn’t look pretty.
Cool cat Joe Smith and good guy Stephen Holder of the St. Petersburg Times have decided to wade into the ugly mess that is the potential work stoppage of 2011. From their research, the duo infer that Team Glazer may want to play hardball with the NFLPA as Team Glazer has its coffers stocked and less financial drag than other NFL teams.
The impact of a lockout that results in games (and revenue) being lost is different for each team. It’s determined by the financial commitments of the club and its ability to address them without its normal cash flow. In a lockout, the Bucs obviously wouldn’t be responsible for their payroll, which was the lowest in the NFL this season anyhow. But what makes their situation more sustainable than some other owners is the lack of stadium costs. Whereas the Cowboys, Jets, Giants and other clubs have invested heavily in recently-built stadiums — and others are attempting to line up funds to build stadiums — the Bucs have state-of-the-art Raymond James Stadium, a facility built courtesy of tax dollars in the mid-90s.
Teams that have stadium debts will be required to make those payments even in the absence of football. The Glazers have no such issues that we’re aware of. Here’s something else to remember: the Glazers make significant profits from events held at Raymond James Stadium, particularly USF football games. Those are profits that will roll in lockout or no lockout. Yes, the Bucs did spend roughly $30 million to build the new One Buc Place a few years ago, but those costs pale in comparison to billion-dollar stadiums.
Think of it this way: You have a house and a mortgage and you are out of work with no income and your savings are tapped out. The mortgage company is sending you some very ugly communiques because you don’t have the scratch to make the payments. At that point, you’re going to be a helluva lot less picky about any job opportunity.
Team Glazer has their house paid for, in so many words. So, unlike Jerry Jones, et al, they may not be itching to get a less than desireable deal done with the NFLPA just for the sake of having games.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Hmmm….easy for me to say, but I think it would be wise for the Glazers to lock up the coaches they want to keep so when there is a season, they can hit the road running.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Now I understand the teams not paying the players in a lock-out season but what about the coaches? Will the coaching staff continue to paid? I don’t think that the coaches are part of the CBA and therefore I ‘believe’ that Raheem and the others will get paid….Joe?
January 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Shocker! The glazerhouses have failed to spend adequately on payroll and coaches, can’t keep them ( biasaccia), can’t lure them (Dunbar) haven’t added a meaningful vet in years, and are prepared to not play to improve their economic situation.
These greedy a–holes. They haven’t paid for their house Joe, we have.
This is the reason we are pissed. This era glazer would rather go 0-16 and make huge profits, than 16-0 and make large profits.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:50 am
And who really cares if rah isn’t paid? Do u really think that he is irreplaceable?
Only free fits that description.
January 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Hey guys,
I recently got the urge to watch a replay of our Super Bowl run and found this pretty sweet dvd set on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Tampa-Bay-Buccaneers-2002-Playoffs/dp/B000X3UIYW/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1295275903&sr=1-1
I was wondering if anyone has an .avi file of the Bowl game itself, OR of any of the playoff games leading up to it? I’ve been searching for it all over the internet but to no avail and I’m getting tired of watching America’s Game over… and over… and over. Although Sapp makes me laugh everytime in it.
If anyone does, please reply to this OR e-mail me at onesickanimal at gmail dot com
January 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am
This whole article seems a bit odd. Don’t the opinions of the other 31 teams matter? Are we lead to believe that the whole negotiations are going to come to a halt because of one set of owners out of 32?
January 17th, 2011 at 11:20 am
I have an intelligent thought to post, but I have to wait. If I post right after something as stupid as Thomas, my thoughts lose credibility just by being neighbors. Somebody help me out and post something funny to distance the serious thoughts from the moronic
January 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Not only do they have their house paid for……they’re renting out the mother in law sweet for $5K a month. The Glazers really got a sweetheart deal out of CITS
January 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
haha….meant suite, not sweet
January 17th, 2011 at 11:55 am
So what? In the owners meetings, REAL NFL owners like Jerry Jones will slap these Glazer boys if they play hardball – as they should.
The Glazers are one of the few lucky owners not motivated to make a deal, I hope other owners put them in their place if they try to use that as leverage.
January 17th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I dunno. I have friends losing their houses. I know people who have been out of week for months. The economy is terrible, and looks primed for another step backward. Makes it hard to worry about how many millions of dollars we are going to pay some 21 year old prima Donna to play a game. Or howany millions the Glazers are banking. The finest young Americans are fighting and dying to save our way of live. They aren’t getting payed anywhere close to millions. But I do know this. In theses terrible times, if our” great escape” Football is kept from us so these millionaires can fight over the Bounty- they will do unrepairable damage to America’s Game. This is NOT the time. I say they start showing the LFL on Subdays, and NFL can go screw itself. We’ve given them to much loyalty to put up with this crap. Plus the LFL is my kinda new sport!
January 17th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Real owners like Jerry Jones? Hmm, might wanna check out “fortune 5
January 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Dammit!! “might wanna check out the recent “fortune500” magazine. Contrary to what several minimum wage earning fans believed, the Glazers are Big Dogs in any company. The fact that they, unlike some of their fellow owners, are well positioned in case of a work stoppage, just proves how much smarter they are than the average bear.
January 17th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Capt,
I am in no way saying our owners are not financially well-off compared to other owners… thats the one thing they have proven above all else — they will do whatever it takes to be profitable.
I said “real” owners referring to Jones because there is no doubt what he is after – rings!. That makes him a real owner in my book. The Glazers still have not proven that.
January 17th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Thankfully the Glazers aren’t “real owners”. “Real owners” like Jerry Jones, and Daniel Snyder just screw up their football teams.
January 17th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Givaltr:
Jerry jones really screwed up by winning 3 rings and being a consistent contender. He is only viewed as a failure by you bc he sets his expectations as super bowl or bust.
Here, you idiots want long term extensions for 3rd place in your division. Jerry demands excellence. You sheep throw parades for missing the playoffs.
January 17th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Thomas 2.2 are you Buc U’s twin?
January 17th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I think that it’s time for a Thomas 3.0 – the 2.2 version is full of bugs and $hit.
January 17th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Owners in the NFL are just that owners. The difference is that some actually CARE about more than just $$$ – the Glazers aren’t in that group. For Joel et al., the Bucs could as easily be a local Starbucks or a Checkers franchise.
January 17th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Jerry Jones is not a failure as an owner but he SUCKS as a GM – heck he even admitted as much. It’s nice to see a team’s owner involved and willing to put their money where their interest is. I just wish the Glazers would sell the Bucs to a local person who cares.
January 17th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Jerry Jones is an idiot who interferes with things like personnel decisions that he has no clue about. Thank God the Bucs don’t have owners that do things like trade 1st, 3rd, 6th and 7th for Roy freaking Williams.
January 17th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Our owners gutted the team bc of the forthcoming lockout new cba so they didnt have antiquated deals. They hired rah with no exp bc he was cheap.
All of ownerships recent decisions are based uppn $ and not winning. Lets see what happens when the cba excuse is eliminated. Btw – how many tickets were sold to cowboys games vs bucs games this year? I didnt see any blackouts in dallas. Apparently the dallas market believes in their product.
January 17th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Gary- ? – the Glazers ring says 2002 on it. When is the last time The Cowboys won a title? Were you still in school? Bet we win another Superbowl before The Jones boys. Guy has a terrible team, fulla underachieving overpaid primadonnas. I like our team alot better. Is they anyway we can filter out Thomas and Derfs comments. This could actually be an interesting thread, but apparently it came up on the” ruin this thread with stupidity” at the “whinny gay dumbass headquarters”
January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Derf:
Ding!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Gary- proved to who? If the Glazers cared about Money, the Lil midget Gruden would still be here. They fired him for ruining the team,and have paid him millions after the fired his Lil ass. They also knew firing him would cost them fans, as he had a tremendous following in the Gay community( you can see some of the posting here daily, still crying about it). They lost a fortune getting rid of him. To help the team. But that’s nothing compared to the fortune they spent to hire him. We all remember the draft picks, but there was a huge Cash price also to be paid. The Glazers are absolutely obsessed with this team winning. Lil Chuckys refusal to coach young layers, and his inability to draft any good talent, explains the low payroll, and his expensive termination. This team is in great shape for the future. I also believe that they are following the exact same plan to the Superbowl as last time. Which means they will sign alot of Free agents. Dominick isn’t telling the rest of the NFL that, because doing so would be stupid. The NFL is all about diverting people from your true intentions. We are in the perfect spot to do so. Even if the Salary cap is lowered,we have tons of Money. As soon as the CBA is settled, there will be a huge pool of FAs. And there we are, standing with pockets fulla cash to spend. Exactly like the last Superbowl drive
January 17th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
I think we had a few intelligent conversations this past weekend… and then BAM!!! Thomas AKA Buc You returns and everything goes to $h!t. When you read what this piss ant writes, it is almost verbatim what Buc You spews, the same chunks hurled in the same direction. It just amazes me how one moron with zero intelligence and absolutely no human reasoning can turn the whole conversation into one Cancerous mess. Melanoma is a much more appropriate screen name for this decayed after birth. I can not call him a child because a child has innocence and hope, and this is more akin to death stench in 120 degree heat.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Bigmacattack- agree 100%! This thread is a perfect example! This post should be in the 80s . But when it has so much stupidity at the start, it kills the conversation before anyone can get an argument storming. Thomas and Buc You are like thread killers anymore. Last summer the haters made up the majority. Now, the mindless haters just turn off the intelligent fans. Hope they disappear soon, so that their mindless drivel doesn’t keep screwing up good articles
January 17th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
My god, that is one hideous beard.
January 17th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
got the “infer” and “imply” thing backwards
January 17th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
I don’t mind Thomas and Buc You, atcually. They are kind of funny, like clowns that come out in order to keep everyone laughing. I mean you would only get upset with them if you took them seriously. Look at Thomas’ comments. How could you take that seriously?