Report: Hayes Got Tackled, Pushed Officer
December 13th, 2010
With Quincy Black surely out for the season with a broken arm, the Bucs likely are hunting a new linebacker to put on the roster or practice squad.
Perhaps the cop who tackled Hayes this morning is available. Not too shabby, although he did have the benefit of shooting Hayes with a stun gun first. But maybe he can fill the A-gap?
TBO.com reporter Keith Morelli has updated his story to include more from the police report of Hayes’ arrest this morning outside a Tampa nightclub. Apparently, Hayes’ cold weather evening wear was Taserproof.
According to Price’s affidavit, Hayes “was loud, verbally abusive and made threats to myself and staff from the club.”
Hayes, who is 6-foot-3 and 225 pounds, was warned that he would be shocked with a stun gun if he didn’t leave, and Hayes persisted, the report said.
Price used his stun gun, but Hayes’ clothing was too thick for the shock to subdue him, the report said. Price then tackled the linebacker and took him into custody.
Morelli also reported that Hayes pushed a female officer at the scene.
Hayes pushed police Cpl. Robin Penix aside and stood between her and the acquaintance, who became disruptive, and another unidentified man, police said.
This just keeps getting worse for Hayes. While D’Angelo Hall got away with pushing a referee in yesterday’s Bucs-Skins game, and the NFL didn’t mind that Aqib Talib threatened a ref, pushing a cop won’t go away easily.
December 13th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Did price give geno any tips when he tackled em?
December 13th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
u could tell rah wasnt happy about this as he shouldn’t be….u gotta sit geno for the next gm dont u to send some kind of message???…
December 13th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
That’s crazy…I went from thinking the linebackers were the most solidified group to the most questionable group…and that includes de’s and interior o line
December 13th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Bad choices, and nothing good happens after 1 AM, ever. Clubs get a little carried away at times with dress codes. I can’t help but wonder if the doorman(or whomever) would have just let Geno’s friends into the place, that none of this would have happened. Clearly Geno and his friend were wrong, multiple times, but again when the Doorman made the call to deny access, he could see a potentially volatile situation developing. He then made a poor choice, and probably should have asked Geno’s friend to wait a moment while he asked the manager for his guidance. He chose to flex his muscle and be an A-hole. Many of these upscale(so they like to think) bars have coats/ties available for guests to wear if they are under-dressed. Again, I hate to play the race card, but if Geno’s friend was white, and I am assuming he was black, and not been dressed just so, if maybe the doorman would have handled it differently.
December 13th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
come on man stop putting the blame someplace else…this is tampa u know how many clubs there are to frequent…stop blaming the doorman..all they had to do was leave simple as that
December 13th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
The doorman may have been an arse, but when a cop tells you to leave, just say “yes sir” and move on. The club has the right to refuse access, I wonder if they realised how much money may have been spent if Geno and his bud were let in…probably not.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
All I know is that tasering and tackling a guy to arrest him for disorderly conduct sounds like excessive force to me. It would be different if he was being charged with felony battery on a law enforcement officer or something but the charge of disorderly conduct is a very petty misdemeanor. We have already seen the tampa police department arrest a Bucs player on a flimsy pretense recently(Mike Williams). I’d like to know exactly what was said by all parties and what exactly went on before dogging Geno on this.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Gitarlvr…Agreed.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
This is how they are brought up at One Buc Rec Center.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
One Buc Place, once a palace housing a billion dollar franchise, is run amok with da boyz from da locka room (see arrest after arrest as evidence of behavior). It has joined the list as the most prominent Parks and Recreation centers in Hillsborough county and will be now re-named as One Bucs Rec Center, informaly known as Bucco Bruce Park.
Don’t forget to sign up for the 2011 Winter Kickball league, following the 2010 Streetball championship.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Buc You…The funny thing is, players were arrested under gruden too. You are a fool. You said in another post to arrest Geno for being stupid, if that could be done you would be on the America’s most wanted list.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Buc You…just off the top of my head Gruden had Pittman, Stevens, and Robinson arrested while he was the coach…I would have to look up each year to show there were more. The coach does not matter, young men tend to make bad choices. You hear about it because of all the media we have these days.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Please stop replying to Buc You and maybe go away.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Good idea passthebuc, I always let him bait me.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Its all about respect…for oneself and fellow man. If you play a kid’s game you must turn off the attitude and act like a man. Walk away to come back some other day and play.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
I think part of the problem is that Clubs should not be allowed to hire off duty Police Officers as Police Officers to provide security. They are clearly working for the establishment and not the TPD while off duty. This is problem that comes up from time to time, with Troopers and escorts as well. If this would have been just regular Pinkerton or Private, it most likely would have been diffused without police involvement. These cops should use EXTREME discretion when they are off duty, and tasing someone is not using discretion at all. I think this all BS and cops should stay cops, and when they are off duty should be citizens like everyone else. Off duty cops in uniform as security is a conflict of interest. Their jobs are to protect and serve the public, not to protect and serve private establishments for pay. Again, bad judgment, alcohol involved which is the Blue Martini’s fault, and cops that aren’t really cops. The whole thing stinks like dead fish and Racist Cops.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Bigmac…You are right, but the problem is the PD makes a pile of cash doing this. The officers are typically hired through the PD at a pretty high price.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Hence more the need for a COMPLETE lineback overhaul in the upcoming draft.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
BigMac,
Seriously? So this is the Blue Martini’s fault (for serving alcohol, no less, for which they have a license to do) and the security/police’s fault. Gimme a break. Hayes was arrested 3 years ago for the same crap. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – “a leopard can’t change its spots.”
December 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Crazy thing is, most of the Buc players being arrested or in trouble this past year have been Gruden and Allen’s players. Then a Buc hater like Buc You blames Morris for the mess Gruden left him.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Geno- Check yourself, before you wreck yourself. Walk away your loaded. Somewhat.
Its a Club. Not an emergency room your being denied into.
Stay down big man.
December 13th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
LightningBuc, I’m not 100% blaming Blue Martini for a Drunk getting out of hand, but when you serve alcohol in excess you are asking for problems. There is a place in Venice called Sharky’s on the Pier. They have a 2 drink maximum due to the fact that so many patrons have got $h!tfaced and caused problems, not to mention DUI concerns. I worked at a very upscale club when I was a kid in Houston. We had 6 very very large bouncers that looked like Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork & Kevin Nash. They could grab and remove any person or group of drunks pretty much without problem or major incident. After that the problem was outside and they had zero chance of getting back in the door. No one ever got arrested, and maybe twice in a year guys were taken to the drunk tank. I prefer this system to one of cops and tasers, especially women cops which few, if any drunks have respect for. I promise you that Geno would have easily been taken out of the club, carried if necessary by large trained bouncers. No problem. Again they should have probably let Geno’s buddy inside and Off Duty cops as security should not be wearing badge, uniforms, and guns, tasers. IMO
Still, Geno screwed up and is 100% responsible for his own bad behavior, whether it could have been avoided or not. Life is very unfair, especially if you are a minority.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
BigMac,
Yes, life is indeed unfair for Hayes as a minority. He probably has made more money in his several years with the Bucs PLAYING A GAME than most of us will make WORKING in a lifetime. Very unfair – for this WHITE guy!
December 13th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Add Hayes to the list of former regime LBs who will not be on the team next year.
December 13th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Geno is a product of Ronde Barbers leadership.
December 13th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
The bottom line is: Is rah rah responsible for the actions of all these players? Directly no. What some of us believe is the failure of rah-rah to meaningfully deal with this stuff meaningfully, by full-game or partial game or significant fines if not encouraginng of this behavior it fails to send the appropriate message.
The problem that many of us have with rah rah is that he fails to establish the appropriate line between head coach and player. I have been to practice and observed the very loose almost informal atmosphere. The players dont expect discipline and structure from their buddy. I know you sheep think that this is great.
But off-the-field b.s. like this inarguably effects the on-the-field performance. This stuff leads to suspensions like T jax and Talib, distractions like Mike Williams and now Geno.
Why does this guy refuse to strongly deal with this stuff? Come out and call it unacceptable, call it intolerable – say that we will be fining him and are considering costing him playing time – even not starting etc.
Take some action. It is becoming difficult to now b/c he has refused to previously so many times that he will be accused of playing favorites and being inconsistent when he finally does get firm.
I believe all of this lack of discipline originates from his age and the fact that he wasnt a player in the league and feels inferior and intimidated. He has that inferiority complex that a lot of young, non-player coaches have, so the only way he gets their cooperation is by being their buddy.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:11 am
resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, trespassing. Geno you are dumb.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:24 am
I disagree with you Thomas, again. First of all, you have been to a training camp practice that was open to the public, not a real practice. I guarantee you there is a difference. I’ve been to a training camp practice when Gruden was there, and I can say that it is a lot more “fan friendly” than what I suspect is a real practice. Plus, when you come in with negativity on your mind, you can convince yourself that you see anything you want to verify yourself. It’s just human nature.
We have no idea what the punishment will eventually be for Geno. I guarantee you, however, that he will be fined. Whether or not that works is up for debate. I think it really depends on the player, which I would have no idea about in the case of Geno (or any other player for that matter).
I’m not sure what you mean when you say he has refused to do so so many times. What exactly are you referring to? Mike Williams? He passed the tests, why should he have been punished by missing a game (he was fined). Aqib Talib? For what, even the NFL didn’t fine him after an investigation. That would be stupid. Jerramy Stevens was released, Jermaine Phillips was not re-signed. What other situations are you referring to to classify it as “so many”.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. You are judging how he feels and acts based off of what? It is your uneducated opinion of a man you never met. Your opinion is incredibly biased due to the fact that you never wanted him to get the job in the first place, and you think he is not a “ticket seller”. You continue to call anyone who supports and likes Raheem “sheep”, yet there are so many people on this board who were very critical of him last year, but have since changed their tune due to this team’s turnaround. They are open minded enough to see the improvement. It just sounds like sour grapes from you.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:22 am
I have heard people say that apparently the TPD has it in for Buccaneer players. Can someone explain to me what the history and or politics is behind this?
December 14th, 2010 at 2:20 am
No Tuggz you are dumb. He was not arrested for assaulting an officer. He was arrested for disorderly conduct which is tantamount to being obnoxious in public but about as far from a serious crime as you can get. Thats why this all sounds like something isnt right. If he really pushed a police officer I can guarantee you he would have felony battery on a LEO slapped on him. The police departments around here like to slap people with that charge for looking at them the wrong way. So some kind of misinformation is going on here.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:29 am
It could be that the officer knew Geno was a buc and was trying to let him off easy with the lesser charge. It could also be that this charge is trumped up b.s. The point is some of you guys need to wait until the facts become more clear before trashing one of your own teams players.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:33 am
By trumped b.s. I mean many cops are nowhere near above exaggerating things like what constitutes a “push”. Say something disrespectful to a cop and piss them off when your drunk and then all of a sudden the most incidental miniscule physical contact is called a “push”.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Well said Hawaiian Buc. It is also pretty standard in the NFL to let the legal system and the league work through the issues before the team doles out any action. This is no different than Stevens being arrested under Gruden for drugs, and being resigned no less…or Pittman, etc. Those players actions were not Gruden’s fault just like Geno’s are not Morris’ fault.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Also Thoms, go back a few years in Pit and you will find the Chin had plenty of players arrested, the Roonies got rid of most of them, well, not Big ben. Any way, pay attention and you will find that this is a league wide problem.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:27 am
McBuc,
I get your point, but Stevens wasn’t arrested under Gruden. Violated substance policies, but not arrested. Again, not downing your point, just a correction.
April 2007 – Jerramy Stevens signs with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
January 2008 – Seattle Times publishes the Washington Huskies special report which details Stevens’ brushes with the law, and the school’s brushing it under the carpet.
May 2008 – Bucs re-sign Stevens. Bucs fans are outraged with the decision, and the Bucs response is to pretend nothing is wrong. Buccaneers.com threatens to ban anyone who posts a link to the article on their bulletin board.
June 2008 – Stevens was suspended for two games and fined three game checks after violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy.
October 2010 – Stevens pulled over for playing loud music, and arrested with 38 grams of pot. That amount suggests intent to distribute or sell. The Buccaneers released Stevens.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
OAR, thanks for the clerification, my memory is not as good as it once was. Anyway, my point is that you can not blame it all on the coach. Players across the league keep getting busted for one thing or another. Thomas and Buc You want to blame everything on Morris, but credit the players or other coaches when things go right.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Im confused. Im a police officer, if you shove me…A) you are probably getting an ass whipping…B) You most DEFINITELY are being charged with Battery on a Law Enforcement Officer, which is a FELONY. He went to jail for Disordely Conduct/Trespass…HUH?