Bucs Injuries Mount; Talib Out For The Year
December 6th, 2010
The Bucs awful Monday got worse today as Rick Stroud of the St. Petersburg Times is reporting via Twitter that Bucs cornerback Aqib Talib is out for the year and placed on injured reserve.
@NFLSTROUD: CB Aqib Talib will miss the rest of the season for the Bucs with a hip injury. No surgery, but he tore a tendon from the bone.
This is ugly news for the Bucs secondary already down Tanard Jackson who has all but smoked himself out of the NFL, and Cody Grimm who broke his fibula last week.
The news is also troubling for Jeff Faine as Stroud, again on Twitter, suggests Faine’s return in 2010 is not at all certain.
@NFLSTROUD: Bucs also likely have lost C Jeff Faine for the season with a triceps injury.
With all do respect to Faine, this isn’t as bad as Talib; though clearly not good. Zuttah will do fine in Faine’s place. Talib’s loss is a much bigger hole to fill.
There goes Talib’s Pro Bowl shot, and he finishes the year with six interceptions and one off-field berating of an official in 10 1/2 games.
Faine, in Joe’s mind, now has one foot out the door. He’s 29. He makes big money. And he’ll have missed a pile of games in 2009 and 2010. Throw in Jeremy Zuttah filling in well at center, and Faine looks like old, damaged and replaceable goods.
Joe’s not sure the Bucs can recover successfully this season from yet another round of lost players, especially two guys contributing at a high level. This seemingly makes rookie Derek Hardman the starter at right guard for the rest of the season with Zuttah moving to center, and Talib’s talent and playmaking is irreplaceable.
Regardless, Joe expects the Bucs to win their next three games: at Washington and home against Detroit and Seattle.
But beating New Orleans at their place now requires a much a greater miracle.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Talib is a BIG LOSS. But on the bright side our younger corners Lewis and Biggers will get more experience. But it definitly hurts our slim playoff chances i see us finsihing 10-6 but next year is gonna be our year
December 6th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
this is proof that this is just not our year for the playoffs…mad props to the staff for dealing with all these injuries, but this is ridiculous. Beat Wash/Det/Seattle and finish with a competitive game at NO and come back kickin @$$ next year
December 6th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Wow….If nothing else, this is a serious opportunity to see if Biggers or Lewis can up their game. I’ve never been a big fan of Mack…so I will leave him off.
If Biggers or Lewis show that they are starter material, Ronde can be moved to Nickel full time and could possibly extend his career if wants to of course.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
It’s not good, but everything happens for a reason. This may open the door for Lewis to learn and grow and maybe we see what the rookie OL players can do.
For as much adversity and negativity as the Bucs have had to overcome this year, I’m proud of them for not quitting.
That’s character. That’s heart.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
a damn shame.
sad.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
I agree with the other posters, at this point, the season is all but lost from a playoff standpoint, however the guys that have been on the bench most of the season will now get invaluable experience, during a playoff push, meaning next year when all these guys come off IR, it’ll mean our team is that much stronger.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
See this fork? Here it comes…
December 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Ok now i’m worried.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
We dont need Aqib to beat Washington, Detroit or Seattle. If we are 10-5 in New Orleans, anything can happen. Biggers did well yesterday and Myron Lewis will get his shot. We would never had discovered Cody Grimm if Tanard JAckson hadnt decided that he really liked marijuana. Never would have found Blount if Cadillac hadnt lost a step. Never would have found Lee on teh O line without injuries. Have faith that Dominick and Raheem have drafted well and that they can game plan it out. We wont have to worry if we would run the %^@-ball for more than 2.5 quarters…
December 6th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
… Im not sure what would hurt worse .. Losing to the Falcons and finding out Aqib Talib is done for the season … OR Beating the Falcons to find out Talib is done for the season
December 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Bummer, especially for Talib. I hope he can come back in the Spring and not have lingering effects. I think the rest of our secondary is improving but losing Tanard and now Talib is decimating them. It never fails that the Bucs get bit over and over with the injury bug. One or two players is one thing, but they always seem to lose in the range of 15 per season to IR. I didn’t see Talib, but my wife said he was just running along and pulled up lame, just like race horse. For a rebuilding year, they’ve had a helluva run, and there is still hope for this resilient bunch of castaways.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
we can very easily slip up against any of the next 3 teams
December 6th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
True Bret, but they can slip up against us as well…even NO.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
wow. What a loss for this team. damn.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Wow. We’re lucky if we go 9-7 now, IMO. Too many starters lost.
December 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Add Center to the 2011 draft wish list and maybe another OL – Pouncey from the Gators – I think he’s better than his brother.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Tough loss. But the upside is always we now get to steal two more players off someones practice squad. We’re going to have an even better team next year for sure with all these young guys we’re picking up.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
@bucfanjeff
Agreed. Much as I like him, he’s vastly overpaid.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Talib’s loss is an a$$ kicker….I like Faine but it seems like his workout regimen consists of lifting Krispy Kremes and Dunkin Donuts from the table to his mouth.
Oh and Mo Stovall needs to be cut and NOW…pulling up on a possible game changing tackle?
BYE BYE!
December 6th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Joe, if last year’s horrible 3-13 team can beat the Saints, then this years team most certainly can.
If we just make the playoffs, I’ll be happy. I know one thing. If we don’t make the playoffs this year, we won’t have any national games next year. NONE. And I couldn’t stand going through another year of no primetime games for us.
Last year we didn’t get any primetime games, and we won 9 games in 2008. Totally unfair. So that’s what I’m going by.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I think the Faine loss is actually a bigger deal than you’re making it out to be, Joe.Yeah, Zuttah’s been fine in spot duty, but Faine is a vet who knows how to lead an offensive line. Plus, the longevity for an NFL center is much longer than at most positions (see: Jeff Saturday.)
I think if we let Faine go in the off-season, he’ll go on to play another 6 solid years for someone else, while our offensive line takes a step back and we loose another guy who could stand up as a leader on this team of kids.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
@Patrick
Bet ya the Bucs @ Falcons game is either on Sunday Night Football or Monday Night Football next year.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
The Bucs actually have a legitamate excuse now… NO not the refs, come on… the excuse for the 2010 collapse will be due to injuries.
And that one will be justifiable to the poor finish. Almost can’t be argued in the off-season…. ALMOST.
But I am sure I will be able to manufacture some twists and turns to keep this group of Raheem lovers hugging firmly on his nizzles, arguing tooth and nail why he has so much promise and the Bucs future is in good hands with Raheem.
Is the Bucs future really in good hands with Raheem?
December 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Buc You what you’re to stupid (or racist) to see is that Raheem doesn’t just have promise for the future he is a damn fine coach right now.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
damn damn did I say damn. If Talib could catch he may have 10 ints and in the talk of defensive MVP
December 6th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I agree that the Bucs can with the next three games despite the injuries.
I agree with Bucfanjeff that O-line will be a draft priority, draft a center and a guard. I also see DE as a priority.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Buc You…i just read your respone. I’m not sure if your kidding or do you really believe that Raheems and his group of coaches have not taken a young group of men and turned them into a competitive group in short amount of time?
I’m sure there are other coaches out there that may at best produced the same results, but better….I can’t see that.
December 6th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Another 9-7 season.
This is just like 2009…I wonder if Morris get’s fired like Gruden did?
December 6th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
I love how eveyone just chalks up wins against Skins, Lions, and Seahawks.
Bucs have barely eaked out wins against comparable opponents.
December 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Is the Bucs future really in good hands with Raheem?
December 6th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
@Jamie
not to mention Faine’s departure means another rookie starting in place of Zuttah at the RG spot. hopefully Hardman or Carter, whoever they decide to use, steps up and plays great.
December 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Bucs you . That might be the dumbest ? Of the year . Mike williams benn biggers blount lee larson grim not let’s mention freeman. What team have you watched you should be blacked out from saying stupid things
December 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
I predicted 8-8 before the season began and I think even with the injuries that the Bucs can exceed my prediction but I would not be surprised if we wind up 9-7. Everyone is counting the Lions game as a win but I have seen them lose a lot of close games to good teams so they may be a bigger challenge than one may think when looking at the remaining schedule. I think we beat the Redskins and Seahawks, lose a tight game to the Lions and lose to the Saints however I am not sure if it will be close. No matter what happens the rest of the season, I feel like this has been a great year and a very impressive improvement. We have a young team and staff that are growing up together and I really really hope that greed does not stop an NFL season next year because I would love to see how they do next year.
December 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I HOPE that the Bucs coach’s don’t overlook the upcoming 3 games like the fans here at JBF.com. The Redskins will be difficult as will the Lions and Seahawks. There are no gimme games in the NFL….
…..Unless you’re a team with a winning record playing the Bucs
December 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
yes Buc U the rookies are in safe hands with coach Morris – at least for the next two years…..assuming there IS a 2011 season.
December 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
So anyone have any ideas about O-lineman to draft for next year?
December 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
How many teams with a winning record have the bucs beat in rah-rah’s two seasons? Answer: two, and one was a basically meaningless game for New Orleans last year.
Without a win over a good team, how can anyone be sure that this team is headed for good things? If asked before last year if Rah-Rah would win 11 or 12 games total, not make the playoffs, never finish better than third in the division, have no signature wins – all with the development of a franchise qb wouldd youa ll have agreed that his job is secure? Hell no.
What has happened if the sheep allowed this org and Rah etc to set your expectations so low that you are pleased with close losses to good teams – THAT IS PATHETIC. Joe is absolutely right.
To not have one win against, Pit, NO, ATl, Balt proves that the team is not that good (yes Freeman is good) but the team is not yet capable of winning. Nobody knows if under Rah if they will be able to.
Personally, I am willing to concede that Dom has done a much better job than I predicted, Freeman and Williams are impressive – the defense I still dont know – very inconsistent and bad late in games when stops are needed.
If they win 9 or less and lose to NO, how can this season be anything short of failure when the start was 7-3? unless you sheep fell for the “low expectations b.s.” of course.
December 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
BTW – can someone read for me the McCoy stat line from the newspaper because mine showed “zero” from McCoy? 0-0-0.
I thought there were ddozens of articles last week about how: Mccoy now gets it! McCoy has figured it out! Things have come together for Mccoy.
Really, then how did he play 30 minutes, 60 plays and never appear in the stat lines?
Maybe he just “forgot” how to be productive for a week. LOL
December 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
If the bucs win the next 3 games with these injuris Morris has to win coach of the year and dominik executive.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Yes Gavster if your criteria for coach of the year is: do better than expected but have no wins over good teams, squander leads in important games, not make the playoffs, not finish in the top two in your division, give up more points than you score cumulatively, not have a winning record at home.
Basically performing better than embarrassing yourself but not good enough to accomplish anything meaningful = coach of the year. That is absurd. I dont want to hear this b.s. about youth and injuries b/c this is the team that he in part assembled.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
After reading Thomas’s posts, Raheem’s statement of “Stats are for losers” appears more true than ever.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Thomas 2.0 saints were playing for home field. This is not the bcs this is the NFL .the browns beat the pats bad does that mean we are better than the pats come on unless you are a nfl coach shhhhjjjj
December 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
So. ur saying that if we are 10-5(before the saints game) he doesnt even get considered?
December 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Amen TJ! I was at that Saints game last year, and trust me, that game was not meaningless. Had the Vikings not lost that same day, they would have lost home field advantage. It was electric in there, probably the most electric I’ve ever witnessed at a football game. So, no, that game was not meaningless, but your posts are.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
None and done will not win any awards, nor should it.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
OK, did winning 3 games straight in the NFL suddenly become easy? I’m optimistic, but why does everyone have us at 10-5 going into NO.
Also, next year, we won’t have the luxury of playing the NFC west. Looks like next year we are taking on the North, thats 3 tough games and a rising detriot team.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
It is very “Tampa Bayish” to have the “sky is falling mentality” when something goes wrong. It is also very “Tampa Bayish” to have the opposite mentality when things are going well. We need balance here.
Like Joe, I was taken aback and disappointed the Bucs blew that lead. I think a few players relaxed for one play and that started a tailspin. Experience was a factor here.
Disappointing yes, but it isn’t time to put the nail in the coffin and bow our heads for burial.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
I’m not “chalking up” victories in the next 3 games, but they are games the Bucs can win, even with the injuries.
December 6th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
the Bucs will be 10-5 heading into New Orleans?
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid guys.
Loss of Faine and Talib doesn’t mean much to you does it?
December 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
they proved that they can play with anyone. it also looks like they can replace anyone and still play. a testament to Morris and the front office. about the comments by Buc You, its obviously not what he knows, its what he doesn’t know that’s important. and it is very obvious he knows little about football. I am more interested in what player of which practice squad will be coming to tampa. Nice relief by Biggers.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Not gonna chalk up any wins. Any win at this point will be a well deserved win. We can finish anywhere between 7-9 and 11-5. Regardless, this staff has gotten the most of almost every player on the roster (and some that weren’t, but now are).
As to the injuries, the injury to Faine is by FAR worse for the team than the one to Talib. Yeah, it’s gonna be bad not having Talib, but we have two pontentially good players behind him and they’ve both flashed good things this year.
The reason Faine’s injury is more devastating to the team is that his backup (Zuttah) was already playing backup for Davin Joseph (also gone for the year). It would be different if Davin was playing, Talib’s injury would be more damaging. But with Larsen at LG, Zuttah now at C, and Hardman or Carter at RG and Lee at RT…. that’s gonna be a tough one to make work, and make work fast….
December 6th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
@ Mr. Lucky
Gabe Carimi would make a nice run blocking OG to go on the left side.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Thomas 2.1 (2.1 evidently being your IQ),
The site you are on is JoeBucsFAN.com, yet you are “laughing out loud” (like a junior high girl) about a poor performance by Gerald McCoy. No Bucs fan would laugh at that, so why are you here? Did you run out of kiddie images to download today?
December 6th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
No I am not saying that at Rah should not be considered, that would be foolish. But I am also not saying that anyone should be “thrilled” with how the season is turning out either.
I don’t know if anyone like a Cowher would be interested in this job, so I wouldnt fire Rah and end up with someone Rah-like. But also unlike you sheep I dont see things through only rose-colored glasses. FReeman is the reason that this team has improved by four games, also williams in my view.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Joe,
Being at the game yesterday and not having seen any replay yet, what play and how was Talib hurt? We only noticed after the fact that he no longer was in the game and saw him limping on the sideline.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
I don’t think anyone is “thrilled” with this season. Only 1 teams fans have the right to be thrilled every year. Impressed, satisfied, pleasantly surprised are all words I would use to describe the season. Cowher is not the answer for us, trust me. That’s got a a Mike Shanahan situation written all over it. Just give him some time to prove that he is capable of leading this team. At minimum, he has earned that.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
lightningbuc,
I can’t remember the exact play. It was early in the game.
He was just running and pulled up limping. He wasn’t even really involved with the play.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Hell yeah i’m thrilled with this season.
I was prepared to suffer through 12 or 13 losses this season. Instead what I’ve seen so far is 7 wins and 3 of the 5 losses that came down to pretty much the final drive of each game.
We’ve seen exciting football games this year and I don’t think anyone expected that.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010120507/2010/REG13/falcons@buccaneers#tab:watch
Watch the INT at the end very closely. He DID NOT have it. DID NOT! These officials deserve to lose their jobs.
It should’ve been 2nd and 10 at the ATL 27.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Everybody has some key injuries. Gotta suck it up down the stretch in this league.
As Rah has said “finishing” is the key.
Well see.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
To all the haters of this team, I suggest you read the Bull Rush from Steve White today. And I issue a challenge to your manhood: post your normal thoughts on the team on his blog. Go ahead, I dare you. You know you won’t, because you know you are wrong and you are scared to discuss it with someone who actually knows about the game. You know he’s going to rip your arse, and you’re not man enough to take it. Man up, haters.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
You’re a negative jackass, Thomas 2.1.
How can you or anybody else at least not got a little excited about how much adversity we fought through in such a short time to be competitive and promising. Seriously, there isn’t a more promising team in the league right now.
I used to envy the teams stocked full of young promising players and coaches that turn practice squad guys into solid starters.
Anyone who can’t see these things and claims to be a fan is kidding themselves.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
LSU coulda won seven games with this schedule.
Improvement? Negligable………………
December 6th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
THomas 2.1 are you saying things for attention .Coweher would not be intrested in this kob are you serious. Franchise QB Playmakers at WR RB top ten CB. Not to mention we play in Tampa. Who would not want this job we are just a few peices away from being a complete team if we get a DE some online help and LB. What Tampa team have you watche THomas 2.1
December 6th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Didn’t think you would take that challenge Eric!
December 6th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Ok, maybe not………………………:)
December 6th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Wonder if Raheem is having Nightmares about McNabb tonight?
McNabb is a big time QB in the NFL.
I doubt Raheem has an answer for him, mainly because Raheem is unimaginative and sorry.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:04 am
I bet Rex Ryan is glad he’s not coaching in Tampa. You guys would be firing him after this game. Buc You would be saying how sorry his defense is and Eric would say how he’s not impressed.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:22 am
Actually Hawaiian Buc, Belichick hasn’t won a playoff game in a few years. The fire Gruden crowd would probably communicate a “feeling” to the Glazer boys to get rid of him if he were the coach of the bucs. He likes veterans too.
Kiss of death around here.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:29 am
What are you talking about, he likes veterans? There team is totally rebuilt with youth dude. Wake up.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:30 am
And I’m talking about Rex Ryan, not Bellicheat.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:39 am
Hey at least we didn’t hire Josh McDaniels…
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/21281/mcdaniels-force-denvers-hand
December 7th, 2010 at 12:58 am
Mr Lucky, you are absolutely correct. The next 3 games are no automatic wins for Tampa.
Seattle is a long way away, and a hostile place to play, this time of year.
December 7th, 2010 at 1:13 am
Apple Roof..Seattle is at home
December 7th, 2010 at 8:13 am
at home in front of 40,000 Seattle fans 🙂
December 7th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I just read Steve Whites blog, and I suggest Thomas 2.1, Buc You, and Eric all go read it…Mr Lucky (who is not in the same boat with these yahoos) should probably give it a read as well. In fact, everyone should read it.
December 7th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Eric…I hate when people use the college team could beat this schedule argument…I understand that you most likely know that not to be true and are just trying to make a point, but the worst NFL team can beat the best college team all day every day. That being said you still did n ot expect them to even beat the teams with losing records, and btw…the Bucs are part of the reason those teams have losing records. This team and the coaches are doing fine. I find it funny that you guys are fast to blame the coaching for a loss, but you give all of the credit for the wins to the players. The truth is it is a bit of both win or lose. Hawaiian posted a challenge, so please go post your nonsense arguments with Steve White. I also fin it funny that the same people that are discounting the wins are saying there are no easy games in the NFL when talking about the upcoming games. Are you guys really that eager for the team you claim to be a fan of to lose?
December 7th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Warning! Warning! Dumba$$ Alert! Dumba$$ Alert!
This is not a drill!
Seek Shelter Immediately!
December 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Big Mac…They have all come out, typical for them all to arrive after a Bucs loss. What great fans.