Piscitelli Won’t Make The Cut
September 4th, 2010
Leave it to former Bucs defensive end Steve White to make a bold yet reasoned prediction about the final Bucs roster, which will be named today.
White puts his manhood on the table and says Sabby Piscitelli will be looking for work tonight.
Before sitting down to write this up I kind of assumed Sabby Piscitelli was safe. But then when I went back through the games last year for most of the year we only carried 3 safeties on the active roster. I list Cody Grimm as making the roster because he is the primary backup to Tanard Jackson and has played well in the preseason. And even with Grimm it was a toss up between he and Corey Lynch because of what Lynch brings on special teams and because he also played well this preseason. Taking it all in I felt like the Bucs will probably carry both and just keep one less cornerback. So even with them keeping one more safety than last year I still have Sabby being the odd man out.
Now it may not play out that way but I thought long and hard about this and I have a hard time seeing it going another way. I can’t see us carrying 5 safeties especially with Aqib Talib being suspended the first game.
Check out White’s blog for his complete call on the roster.
Factor in White’s sound logic above, and how the Bucs’ defensive mastermind/head coach glowed intensely about Corey Lynch during his Friday news conference, and Joe’s on board with White’s call.
Plus, throw in Sabby lashing out against his head coach after being demoted last week, and Mark Dominik proudly reminding Bucs fans during the Texans-Bucs preseason game broadcast that he plucked Corey Lynch from the Bengals’ practice squad last year, and today surely could spell the end for Sabby.
Joe can only hope the Browns pick up Sabby and put him in the starting lineup.
September 4th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Sabbys mouth got him cut – NFL Players heads up:
Talk with your play on the field or shut the f*** up!
September 4th, 2010 at 8:08 am
The Dream did not fix him?
September 4th, 2010 at 8:19 am
I said the same thing. He’s history. But it surprises me if we don’t get a pick for him. But I’m also surprised we couldn’t get a pick for Ward. We’ll all know soon.
September 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Really I only have one disagreement with Steve. I agree Gilmore is gone if they choose to only keep three tight ends. But I think instead of Brown they will choose to keep Parker. Preston will not make the practice squad if they try to sneak him on there IMO. Can’t wait to see the final results. I also think they may look for another defensive end that is released to add to there roster.
September 4th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Eric , The Dream was his positions coach his entire career , so it can be argued that Rah is the reason he’s never devolped any skill to go with his talent in the 1st place. Not only did The Dream not fix him , he ruined him.
He might get cut , true . I kind of hope he does , because I will enjoy the scramble of the fans to find a new scapegoat when they realize our defense still sucks ass. Hopefully that scapegoat is the D- coordinator.
September 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Joe, isn’t this how it should always work. A guy busts his butt, keeps his mouth shut, kills on special teams and makes all the plays he’s asked of when on defense (and then some!). Shouldn’t he replace the under-performing, bad attitude player every time?! These coaches wouldn’t be able to look their team in the eye if they chose sabby over lynch. Not to mention, if you’ve been watching Hard Knocks, you notice that the position coaches go crazy about special teams guys that make an impact. They will always try to find room for those players. The only impact sabby has made on special teams is kick/catch interference. He’s gone.
September 4th, 2010 at 9:11 am
yea….its raheems fault sabby sux, jus like t-jax and aquib…
September 4th, 2010 at 9:37 am
ac3…It is better to ignore Radio. He can not see the foreest through the trees.
September 4th, 2010 at 9:50 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100903/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_goat_rescue
Sabby needs to go to Montana…………….
September 4th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Once again, Steve White offers the most intelligent and logical assessment of the team. I would love to see Mr. White working as a D- line coach on the Bucs Staff, with a D- coordinator job in his future! Sabby’s weaknesses were well known when he came out of college. His flaws should have been obvious when he was drafted, and now may have ultimately proven career ending. Lynch and Grimm will be much more productive players in our scheme, and cutting Sabby is the right decision. As someone else wrote, cutting Sabby will also help erase the memory of last seasons defensive failures. This is for Eric and Mushy- get ready- Sabby is just another failed draft pick from the gruden “Draft Failure Farm”. Lol ! I’m really worried that they may cut Zuttah today . . . That could be catastrophic to my favorite web site!! Lol
September 4th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Throw in the fact that there will be a variety of safeties released by other teams that could fill Sabby’s shoes (Afalava from Chicago for one), and you have to think his hours are numbered.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Capt.Tim,
Actually, looking at our team reveals a lot of Gruden draft choices in starting roles:
Offense: Caddy, Trueblood, Joseph, Stovall. Plus FA’s Faine, Penn, Graham
Defense: Black, Ruud, Hayes, Talib, Jackson and FA White.
Surely you can see a few good players in that group.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Eric has a point Capt…No one hits on all of them.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
McBuc …I think you are one not seeing the forest for the trees.
You’re the idiot that thinks one safety is the source of all our woes , and cutting him is going to make the team better. I’m the one that sees the fact that we are going to suck regardless , and we have much bigger problems to solve before we get back to winning.
Wake up.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Eric is right. I actually looked back at their draftsa couple months ago, and Gruden did draft several solid starters. I think the biggest issue was that he never hit on a skill player on offense (that could also stay healthy) and he never hit on the D-Line. As a result our offense continued to look impotent and our once great defense, built on the foundation of a 4 man rush, declined. I’ll go out on a limb and say that if Caddy had stayed healthy, Gruden would still be here and we’d have had a lot more stable success, maybe even another superbowl.
Now I’m fully behind what Raheem is doing. I think he’s building a very solid core of players. But Gruden definitely gets a bad rap. He tried drafting Chris Simms, Michael Clayton, and Gaines Adams. The picks simply failed and it gave the appearance he wasn’t trying. I think Dominik is doing a much better talent evaluation job than Allen did, as we seem to get a more consistent value out of our selections, but Gruden gets too little credit for the players he did draft.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
“ac3 Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 9:11 am
yea….its raheems fault sabby sux, jus like t-jax and aquib…”
Yes , Aquib ,who goes around punching cabby’s in the back of head and hurting his team by getting suspended, and, Tanard, who goes around failing drug tests and hurting his team by getting suspended. Gotta love how The Dream has instilled so much discipline in those two . Nah , you’re right , the only problem we have to worry about is Sabby . LOL.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Just like Shanahan is a terrible disciplinarian because he couldn’t keep Brandon Marshall from having off the field issues, right? 20 somethings with too much money and a sense of entitlement are going to get in trouble regardless of who their coach is. Their issues come from much younger troubles. Generally the way to fix it is to not draft them. Hence why Dom looked so much into Williams and otherwise drafted people considered high character guys.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Absolutely Eric has a point. And he’s right. There are not only players left from the Gruden drafts, but there are some very good players.
Davin Joseph and the FA pick-up Jeff Faine are probably the only part of the O-line I feel good about. The rest (including Penn and Trueblood) have not done much to impress me and I would say are the weak point of the team. I’m guessing this will be addressed next year in the draft.
Caddy is an inspiration, but many would say (I think Joe is big on this) that our RB’s are mediocre at best, including Graham. So, starting… yes. Spectactular? probably not. Same with Stovall, as we don’t even know if he’s a starter yet or not and he’s been injured about every year of his career.
The strength of our D will lie in the LBs this year. Those 3, Hayes/Ruud/Black will make or break this defense in 2010, and I think they’ll make it. However, Gruden never did start Black or Hayes. Understood that they were much younger then and probably not ready to start.
We’ll see where Stylez ends up this year, he may be the best DE we have by default, but I haven’t seen anything special from him yet.
Talib and T-Jax have both been in trouble, both faced suspensions from the league. Don’t get me wrong, they’re both great players on the field, I love having both on the team, but they’re not the “leaders” you want going into the future, as they don’t lead by example off the field.
So, out of the 13 players listed as “starters” (of which I’ll say Stovall and Graham are questionably listed as starters). That’s about half the team’s starters. So, in 2 off-seasons they’ve replaced just under half. With only 7 draft picks per year (on average) and a depleted FA pool due to the CBA, and not every draft pick expected to be an immediate impact (and some no impact at all), I have to say that’s pretty respectable…. 9 new starters in 2 years (11 if you count K and P).
September 4th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Interesting Radio, resorting to name calling. The funny thing is I never said anything like Sabby is the problem, he may be part of it, but you like to credit people with things they have never said. You tried to say that Sabby’s issue stem from Morris being his position coach, and ac3 rebutted it with proof of other players that excelled in the same situation. Morris has not proved to be a good HC at this point, but no can deny his ability to coach the secondary. You simply try to attack the man in every situation.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Radio…This pretty much takes away any credibility you may have had.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Rumor is Stacy Andrews might get cut. He would be a better back-up tackle than we have now IMO.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:59 am
More STUPIDITY:
“Radio Mushmouth Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Eric , The Dream was his positions coach his entire career , so it can be argued that Rah is the reason he’s never devolped any skill to go with his talent in the 1st place. Not only did The Dream not fix him , he ruined him.”
ROFLMAO. Wow, could you be any bigger of a HATER? Now Morris ruined Sabby. LMAO. Stupid.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Rumor is that Housh might get cut in Seattle. He would be an excellent veteran addition and we can cut the injury prone Stovall or Reggie Brown to make room (I’m assuming Clayton will be cut already).
September 4th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Eric, you have a point with this comment:
Actually, looking at our team reveals a lot of Gruden draft choices in starting roles:
Offense: Caddy, Trueblood, Joseph, Stovall. Plus FA’s Faine, Penn, Graham
Defense: Black, Ruud, Hayes, Talib, Jackson and FA White”
But, as usual, you take it a little too far by not pointing out the other obvious facts. 1) Some of these guys are recently elevated starters on a bad team 2) this is the product of SEVEN years work — no Pro Bowlers or All All-Pros (maybe Talib or Joseph will change that), 3) Penn was Dom’s find, not Gruden’s
Very easy to defend Gruden as a coach. He is a great coach. But, trying to defend his drafting/player acquisition is not as easy. Like it or not, he inheritted a team with a bunch of Pro Bowlers and when he left there were none.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Radio has and has never had any credibility…he’s just good for a joke now and then.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Something that everyone is conveniently forgetting is the lack of draft picks we had with the acquisition of Kee Johnson and Gruden. We gave up a lot of top draft picks to acquire those two. We got a Super Bowl ring but Kee was gone the next year so we paid a price. And the price was core players that would/should have been starters down the road. So the fix for Allen and Gruden was to get free agents as we were screwed with no draft choices.
I for one don’t want us mortgaging the future again with aged and potentially expensive free agents that don’t work out. I think the Derrick Ward saga is a perfect example of that. We have had two good draft years and i think we are poised for another good selection of draft choices next year. We have upgraded our overall talent and i for one am excited about what we will see this year and in the future. Go Bucs!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Joe you are a sad excuse for a bucs fan! To truly be able to call yourself a fan you need to be able to encourage both players you like and ones you don’t. Fortunately for all of us you are NOT on the bucs and you do NOT get to choose who is! I would be willing to bet a lot of your hatred to Sabby Piscitelli is that he is an attractive sucessful man! On the other hand you most likely are an ugly little man! You think your a big man because you can sit down behind your computer and bash buc players! You should be ashamed of yourself for the way you talk about them! Even if Sabby was off the team you would find someone…anyone to bash!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I love Joebucsfan!! The name Gruden is blood in the water. Just mention it and every major Shark here starts circling. . I swear I’ve developed spider sense about that name! I’ll be at my desk at work, and suddenly get that” somebody just wrote Gruden on a joebuc post” tingle! There is only one other name that draws such an immediate and emotional response- let’s try it out. I HEARD A RUMOR THAT THEY WILL CUT ZUTTAH TODAY, CAUSE MANAGEMENT IS UNHAPPY WITH HIM! You have to be careful with that name. It’ll scare off the Lil ones, but it draws the really BIG one! Lol !
September 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Sabby is still a good special teamer, and Sean Jones did not clearly beat him out… not only that, he is easily the most athletic safety we have and that HAS to intrigue the team. I say Grimm gets the cut and makes it through to the practice squad. Neither Grimm nor Lynch are ready to step in as the 3rd safety and see starters’ reps. Piscitelli was markedly improved in run support this preseason and is superior to Jones in pass coverage.
September 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Capt-Don’t rile the big kahuna or you will meet Matt’s fate.
September 4th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
hey you radio, get out of here!!! go with the carolina kitties edited for graphic, nasty sexual references and hate speech.
September 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Joe here,
Who said the Z word? 😉
September 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Clayton has been cut.
September 4th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Lol, nothing but love for Zuttah here Joe! I’m still mad at at that dang Vincent guy!!
September 4th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Will Raheem get cut tonight?
That would be the best move the Glazer’s could make.
September 4th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I bet Raheem and Dom need to get approval of who to release from the Glazer Brat’s team.
Look Jerry Jones gets cred for running the Cowboys, Davis for the Raiders etc… these Galzer owners get the real credit around here while this puppet regime is filling in on an interim basis.
The Glazers are the ones who make the decisions around here.
Rah just like’s the free koolaide delivered to his cushy office at One Buc.
September 4th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Jimbuc,
You have some good points, but in fairness Mr. Gru was without a first and second round draft choice for his first two years as head coach.
He deserves criticism for some bad drafting(Adams, Dexter Jackson), but also a little credit for a few good ones(Joseph, Jackson, Talib, Caddy etc.) along with some solid FA signings(Faine, Smith, Graham, Penn, AB, etc.), trades (Galloway).
Don’t know that you can give Dom the credit for Penn and blame Gru for other failures.
Just providing a little balance to the Gruden bashing. As you know I am the unofficial self proclaimed Joebucsfan.com Jon Gruden apologists. 🙂
September 4th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Jon Gruden was the worst coach in the history of the Buccaneers.
He pales to compare to the greatest coach Tony Dungy.
In fact, all of the wins Gruden was a part of, were either Dungy’s or Kiffins. and since Kiffin was part of Dungy’s tree, Dungy gets credit for the wins. Furthermore, the games that were lost were soley because of Grudens poor decision making and locker room divide he created. Jon Gruden is a very, very evil man.
Everyone knows that Raheem is the next great hope. He can do no wrong. His players love him and most important of all, he is extremely promising. Now I know what you are going to say, define promising. And my advance answer is, just trust what everyone else around you is saying about his positive promise and uncharted potential.
It is a great day to be a Buccaneer now that the dark days of Bush I mean Gruden are gone.
The economy is roaring back, we are as strong as ever as a country, now go out and buy some season tickets, the Bucs players need you.
September 4th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Further more, Raheem finished STRONG last season.
The loses were because of Jim Bates and Jon Gruden’s terrible drafting history, leaving the team with nothing.
Technically, Raheem is 3-0 when you factor in the promise denominator.
And if any loses come the team’s way this year, then after watching the film, somebody will be held accountable. And keep in mind, Raheem has his team as prepared as Tony Dungy’s past teams. There is nothing but success to expect from this organization. The promise is oozing and bursting at the seams.
I suggest you go get your season tickets too!
September 4th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Eric, I have said many times that Gruden was done no favors by all the premium draft picks given up to win the SB, so I agree.
Dom get credit for Penn because Dom is the one who plucked him off the Vikes practice squad. Even Penn refers to Dom as “his biggest fan”
September 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
LOL @ Aldo !!
September 4th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Dom had the ability to pluck players without Gruden’s OK?
I doubt that Mr. Jimbuc!
September 4th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Yes …we all know that the Director of Personnell overrules the Head Coach and GM when it comes to signings.
You are such a dumb-ass , JimBuc , LOL. If this is the case then you also have to give Dumbinik the credit for Charlie Garner,Tod Stuessie , etc.
September 4th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Eric , Gruden spent his time watching the Vikes practice squad? I doubt that.
(Sounds just as dumb when you turn it around)
By your logic, Glazer gets the credit for Penn.