Peter King Was Right All Along
September 22nd, 2010
Despite the Bucs winning two games right out of the chute and being one of only eight undefeated teams out of 32, not everyone is sold.
Peter King, who originally believed the Bucs would win two games, has already admitted he was misguided. But it seems his mea culpa has only insulted Saints fans who have not been won over by the early Bucs success, per King’s Monday Morning Quarterback Tuesday edition.
“You were not wrong about Tampa Bay. The Bucs played the two worst teams in the NFL these first two weeks. The Bucs have only proven that they are no worse than No. 30 out of 32.”
— Mike M, Garyville, La.
Well, I wouldn’t be so sure Carolina and Cleveland are the two worst teams in the league. Buffalo and St. Louis are in the discussion there. But Tampa Bay’s defense is too strong for it to be in the bottom three or four, I think.
Nothing like a Saints fan, drunk on hurricanes, stuffed to the gills on po’ boys, muffalettas and beignets, to be irritated by King making a correction. Joe will have to remember this the next time he visits the most filthy (though fun) city in America.
Nothing like walking down the main drag of a quaint American city constantly dodging mule dung in the middle of the summer.
September 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 am
Love it when I see this stuff. I would rather king agree with the guy, because I love the Bucs being underrated.
September 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 am
Hey Aints fan! Get back in YOUR paper bag!
This is the NFC South, so watch your A$$.
September 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
I wonder what they will say when we whip the saints a$$.
September 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 am
Don’t worry boys, we’re coming . . .You’ll get your chance to see where we are at. Up close and in person!
September 22nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
Mike M
Last time I checked the Saints won the Super Bowl last year AND you lost to the Bucs, who were terrible last year
Eat IT>>>>>>>>>>>.
September 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Who the hell cares what some stupid Saints fan thinks?
Oh….and didnt we beat the Saints last year?
September 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 am
Let’s be real folks. The Saints fan is right. Starting out 2-0 is huge for us because thisn team is so young, it builds confidence and that is very impoprtant. It also gets our fairweather fans interested again, which is also important.
Outside of Tampa Bay though, we have beat two teams that are definetly in the bottom 5. Last year we might not have beat them, so it’s an improvement, but it is not a huge accomplishment. I’m not turning into debbie downer, but that is the reality. The people that are making too much of this and raising thier expectations too high, are the same people that have talked trash about the Bucs all offseason. And they are the same folks that will go right back to hating the Bucs in a few months when we are 5-8.
We were always a promising young team that would likely win 7 or 8 games. Nothing has changed.
September 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
You sure sound like debbie downer.
September 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 am
Bucs 3-0
PS – Go Yankees!
September 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 am
Jdouble…We may have beat two teams that are not Super Bowl bound, but what have the Saints done this year. They have beaten two defeated teams. The Vikes look like craop this year, and so do the 49ers. Niether victory was all that great either. I think we have a good shot at at least splitting with NO. Atlanta looks like the team to beat in the NFC South to me. Also, just like any pro will tell you, all wins in the NFL count regardless of last years ranking. These young Bucs may surprise you, and yes you do sound like debbie downer.
Saints 14 – MN 9
Saints 25 – SF 22
Not exactly the greatest show on turf, but they are 2-0 so I will not take anything away from NO. Just like no one should take anything away from TB.
September 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 am
I’m not sticking up for the Saints or Vikings or any other team, all I’m saying is untill we beat some teams that are considered the top teams, we will not get alot of respect.
Beating the Panthers and Browns just shows we aren’t horrible and we are winning games against bad teams like we should. It doesn’t mean we are good. We still have to prove that.
Steelers, Saints, Bengals, Falcons, Ravens…these are the teams we must beat to gain respect and show we are for real. Browns, Panthers, Lions, Rams, ect. are bads teams that we should win. They won’t get us national attnetion or respect. That is just how it works.
September 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
I’ve expected 7 or 8 wins all along. That means we beat the bad teams that we should beat. Browns, Panthers twice, Lions, and Rams. We also win one or two of the middle of the road teams like the Cardinals, Seahawks, 49ers.
That leaves the Saints twice, Falcons twice, Ravens, Bengals, Redskins, and Steelers. To have 7 or 8 wins, assuming we continue to beat the bad teams that we should beat, we only need to win one or two of these 8 games. The more of these 8 games we win, the more seriously we will be taken and the better our chances of making the playoffs.
My point is, if this is how youv’e seen the season all along as I have, then beating the Browns and Panthers doesn’t change anything. We are still a team that will win 7 or 8 games this year. If we start winning those 8 games considered to be our toughest, THEN there will be reason to raise expectations. Right now being ranked around #20 is spot on.
September 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Great angle Joe! Re-packaging a comment from another team.
I like it!
Not only that, the usual suspects can’t set out to disparage a commentor via character assisnation for saying anything they don’t agree with, as they do so well here. Don’t say anything critical bout Rah now.
So I like the approach you chose with this story and the ‘Big Boy’ story. Excellent angle.
This is what makes JBF so great, you always challenge a position, both good and bad. Great reads on here.
As far as the Raheem apologists, if they don’t like it, they can always head to the many other rosey Buc websites that cater to their happiness. Yet, that’s not really them, they actually want to debate.
Keep it up Joe, re-hosting other dude’s comments will stir this hornets nest.
But be careful the happy hornets don’t turn their venom on you Joe.
September 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
I hate the Saints and their fans. “America’s Team” my @$$. The Saints were so lucky that San Fran gave them the game on MNF. Reggie Bush has a broken leg, and I knew it as soon as they showed the replay, so he won’t be coming to Tampa. This could be very well be another “Worst to First” year in the NFC South. ATL has two injured RB’s as well.
September 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
JDouble – I agree for the most part. Until we beat teams that are serious threats to make the playoffs, no one will respect our wins.
However, on the flip side, a bad team isn’t expected to beat bad teams. That would put us above being a bad team. If that gets us to the level of “bubble team”, then we should (as you say) beat bad teams, play well against other bubble teams (Seahawks, 49ers, etc), and still struggle against good teams. Problem with that is we haven’t played a bubble or good team yet, so we don’t know where these guys are.
Last year we were a bad team, that’s not true this year. The Vikings were a good team, not entirely true this year. We don’t really know who’s good or bad or in between yet. The Steelers haven’t been able to score a TD in regulation on offense this season. They took 7 turnovers and turned them into 12 points (4 FGs) last week. And they barely beat two teams that might be considered “bubble teams”. The Falcons and Titans are “on the verge” of contending for the playoffs, but not an NFL powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination yet.
The biggest challenge here is facing our first great D. There is no doubt the Steelers have an elite D. If they only had to play D, and we had to play offense the whole game, I think it could be trouble because we are far from an elite offense. That said, they do have to play offense as well, and they haven’t been able to do that so far this year. This will be a good test for a young team. A good test for a young coach.
September 22nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
NegativeExpectations – Was that you calling Peter King? I thought you might be a Saints fan masquerading in your paper bag here at a Bucs fan site.
September 22nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
Jdouble, I get your point and it makes sense. I think BamBam hit it home.
September 22nd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
We weren’t bad last year, as made evident in our last handful of games when we went back to a familiar system. You can’t switch defensive styles and keep the same guys…you need specific players who can play that style….ie Broncos last year. With all the new changes we made, it was no wonder we couldnt win any games. With a familiar system on offense and defense this year, we look stable…however the TJax loss hurts bad.
September 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Dear Mr. King,
I stand corrected about your irrational dislike of the Bucs. It’s a rational (if not untainted) dislike. At times. Like my dislike of the Red Sox. Which is perpetual. Anyway, I can now go back to enjoying your writing without feeling dirty, writing almost as enjoyable as great wings, my XBox, and that chocolate red wine stuff they sell at Publix now. (Man, that stuff’s sinfully good.)
(P.S., Joe: Been on Pat Yasinskas time recently, involving the all-too-volcanic nation of Iceland, hence the late response.)