Sabby, Zuttah Officially “Demoted”
August 24th, 2010
The Bucs’ defensive mastermind/head coach dropped the “D” word on Sabby Piscitelli and Jeremy Zuttah at his afternoon news conference today.
Both have been “demoted,” stripped of the starting jobs they held last year and replaced by free agents Sean Jones and Keydrick Vincent, respectfully. “That’s how we would like to start the season,” the head coach said. “It’s tough at first. Nobody wants to be demoted.”
The only explanation given was that Jones and Vincent are more physical.
After saying he had to “fix” Piscitelli this offseason, the defensive mastermind/head coach apparently couldn’t get it done.
Zuttah will no doubt serve as the No. 1 backup at most positions along the O-line. Joe’s still very curious about the Vincent-Zuttah swap. Joe just hasn’t seen how Vincent proved he was better, and the head coach even said what Zuttah has put on film this preseason has been excellent.
Perhaps this situation will get some clarity now that Vincent is on the first-team line.
August 24th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
“For weeks, Joe has intensely defended his view that left guard Jeremy Zuttah did not have a poor work ethic, was not the Sabby the Goat of the offensive line, and was not earmarked to backup newly acquired Keydrick Vincent.
With the rest of the media piling on Zuttah (John Lynch included) while never quoting anyone from the Bucs, Joe was a bit of a lone warrior on this front.
If the starting offensive line performs well again on Saturday, as it did last week, Joe thinks Zuttah will have locked up the starting job.”
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=33808
You know, being a “lone warrior” only counts if you’re right. And we all know how that turned out…
I guess that formerly colorful Bucs magazine had a clue after all?
August 24th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Vincent starting is simple (to me). He’s a road grader for the run game and is ok in pass protection. We want to run the ball. Zuttah, as said, provides a descent sub anywhere on the line, especially center.
The Jax game, I want to see us F’ing BRING IT. Not everyone will play a lot and I expect Huggins to replace caddy quickly this week. Ward should not play except mop up duty. Trade him and Clayton for a good DE.
August 24th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Poor Joe:
“Joe’s still very curious about the Vincent-Zuttah swap. Joe just hasn’t seen how Vincent proved he was better, and the head coach even said what Zuttah has put on film this preseason has been excellent.”
Joe, do you agree that the Bucs wanted Zuttah to win? Interesting issue you have with Zuttah. The guys is good, but the dispute (Zuttah v Vincent) is really meaningless if you accept that his starting was in the Bucs own best interest. Knowing that, he must not have performed well, at least not as a starting guard. Why else would Vincent be the starter?
August 24th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
The bucs would rather have Zuttah beating out Vincent, because he is the younger player for the long term.
However, the plan is one thing, self preservation is another. If Rah feels Vincent will open up more holes he is going to play him as he should.
Get the run game going, play some defense, win a few games and look improved, save his job. Thats what Rah is thinking, and who can blame him?
Very few teams that don’t have some bandaid remedies going at some positions. Can’t build for the future at every dang position.
August 24th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Joe…looks like the Bucs are already calling Saturday’s game a blackout. What a bummer. I guess I was wrong about two FL teams selling out a FL game…
August 24th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Sean Jones hasnt exactly set the world in fire either…
August 24th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Joe i think we know Zuttah is valuable, but not as an effective starter that can compete at the high level the rest of the o-line is playing at. Vincent is the physical player that fits the playstyle of Trueblood, Joseph, & Faine. They are very prideful players who have a nasty streak. Penn is prideful, but we’ve yet to see a nasty fire inside him.
Vincent will bring that fire to the left side, and hopefully Penn will follow suite.
August 24th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Dang another sasquatch…er.. I mean JimBuc sighting!
August 24th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
JimBuc is like Beetlejuice. If you say his name three times he will appear out of thin air.
August 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
How do you make him go away?
August 24th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
There is a lot of beef on the offensive line now. Must average around 320 or so.
August 24th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Don’t worry guys, I will soon disappear again. Only making a brief stop in to see why Joe is so infatuated with Zuttah.
Other than that, no reason to hang with the low brow set i.e. MushFace and Javier (who changes as an anonymous screen name anyway? Oh yeah . . . I remember the comments that precipitated the change. Way to own it RahDom!)
August 24th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Hey, wait a minute, didn’t JimBuc run away because she said the Buccaneers would not sign Donald Penn to a contract and that Joe was circulating non-stories of the Penn situation?
JimBuc, ‘aka’ the MotherHen of JBF, sure didn’t want JBF to cover that story. She cried for weeks upon weeks begging Joe to stop it with the Penn press, pleading that Joe change his tune, exclaiming that Donal Penn not only should just come in early and sign the tender, but scolded Donald Penn claiming he wasn’t worth the money of a long term deal.
Yeah, that’s the JimBuc I know 🙂
And as Admin said earlier, “Welcome back, TROLL.” But I think you are more of a mother hen, the poster girl of delusions, surely to multiply the website hits for JBF. Welcome back JimBuc!
August 24th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Come on Joe…One more Sabby the Goat. Go ahead, say it, SAY IT!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Just like last year with Leftwich. If Rah brings them in, they are going to start! It has nothing to do with who is better. Raheem just has to show that he is the boss. Cleveland 20 Bucs 14 (But we’ll be getting better!)
August 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Cleveland 20 Bucs 14 (But we’ll be getting better!) = 0-1 Loss
Not very good.
August 24th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Zero…Lay off Jimbuc. He left over the Zutta argument with Joe not the Penn thing…Anyway, why is your bitter tired posts any better than his hope that the Bucs get better.
Tampa 2…I see you still have not changed your name, it still gives the D a bad name. Morris was Sabby’s coach when Gruden was here, he wanted him to succeed. You just make stuff up as you go. I hoped you just stayed over at TBO with the rest of negative bandwagon fans.
August 24th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Maybe I’m not remembering correctly but I thought Jimbuc said Penn would sign all along…so not sure what Zeros talking about..
Vincent is definitely an upgrade..as are Jones and Huggins.
At least the coaches are putting the best players on the field and the competitions are real. I did hear someone in the media saying how the Bucs run somewhat of a rotation at safety so The Goat will still see around 20 plays per game….better than 65 though!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Zero — you are strange bird. If you want to take shots at me you should at least get your story straight. What I said to Joe (repeatedly)was that the Penn story was a non-issue because he would play. Zero, what’s he doing right now? Oh . . . yeah . . nevermind that . . .oops.
And don’t give us that B.S. that he would not be playing now if he didn’t get a contract. Penn did not get the contract he was seeking. As often happens, the two sides met in the middle. Penn used what leverage he had (not much) to get a contract. The Bucs used what leverage they had to get Penn at a reasonable rate.
Penn was reportedly seeking a deal comparable to the REPORTED Ferguson deal ($10 mil per year/$35 mil guaranteed). What he got was a Penn-sized deal ($8 mill/$20 mill guaranteed) that was more like the REAL (not reported) Ferguson deal (meaning way less guarantees that initially reported). Good deal for both sides I hope
I guess I could close with some joke about how I have “zero expectations” about your intelligence . . . but . . not worth it. . . carry on Zero.
Like I said . . the low brow set.
August 24th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
I think Zutt & Sabby both were cast into starting roles before they were ready. Zutt looks good at times, but Sabby is very Baaaaaaddd most of the time.
JimBuc, you’re alright and I don’t care what they say about you.
August 24th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
not sure why everyone is always giving JimBuc a hard time…He should be able to post on here just like the rest of us……jimbuc shouldnt have to agree with everything joe posts on his site…hell i dont agree with all of it either..
August 24th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Javier , making him go away is not easy. Much like the real Beetlejuice , once he appears he is hard as hell to get rid of , and annoys the hell out of everyone in the process.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Sounds like last years QB battle
August 24th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
I would rather get rid of Radio and Javier, but that seems harder than getting rid of Jimbuc…I joke of course, you two are entitled to post your follish doom stuff, just like JimBuc can post his hope for the Bucs stuff…he just seems more like a fan than you two.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
MushFace — I consider it a badge of honor that I annoy you. Thanks, almost worth sticking around just for you.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
“Mother Hen” is the perfect desription also. Love it, Zero . LOL
August 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Oops, Mushface this is me, JimBuc, saying that I consider it a badge of honor, not E. 🙂
August 24th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Is Egratz the name you use when you are pretending to be on hiatus ?? 🙂
August 24th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Uh . . . yeah . . . that’s why I just identified myself. LOL. Silly. No this is E’s computer so his nam was up when I posted my comment.
August 24th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Is that EGratz the famous soccer model?
August 24th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
are we seriously arguing about zuttah and the goat? wow. meaningful games really need to start before we try to argue about whos better between a giant douche and a turd sandwich
August 24th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I could give two $hits about being right or wrong. I just want to win. But if everyone on this site agreed about everything it would be boring and empty. Somebody has to stir the pot and somebody has to pee in the pot. If Joe agreed with everything the Bucs do or say, this wouldn’t be JBF.com, it would be TBO. Does anybody like Roy Cummings? That guy gets bashed a lot. Maybe it’s the hair. Maybe it’s his stupid comments.
August 24th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Joe…I just threw up a little in my mouth. A thread to discuss Sabby (in part) without the adorable goat picture.
PLEASE bring the nick names back. Its what made Joe Joe. Dont conform, man!
August 24th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Welcome back JimBuc.
Regarding Sabby, you cannot teach an NFL player to tackle in one off-season. Tackling IMO is something achieved with experience from mid/high school football onwards. Sabby’s coverage skills may be corrected if he has the smarts to learn it. I am sure with a DB specialist like Rah, he can at least get better in that department if he is retained on the roster.
Regarding Zuttah, I read somewhere on the same website that Zuttah’s strength is playing on the right side of the line. Zuttah IMO is better than Mahan or Compas as back up Center. Very good, we have a better than serviceable backup for Faine & Joseph. Zuttah, if he develops some muscle and polishes his technique, he might claim starting job again. He is very young and he has a lot of room to learn, good for us.
August 25th, 2010 at 7:57 am
A lot of safeties have poor tackling technique, because they play thier whole career just running downhill full-speed and then throwing thier shoulder into people. Momentum takes care of the rest… until that is you get to the NFL, where it doesn’t always…