Raheem Making Fun Of Talib Is Reckless
August 6th, 2010
If one were to select a Buccaneer most likely to misinterpret something, fly off the handle and then do something regrettable, the choice would be simple.
It’s Aqib Talib, hands down.
Talib inappropriately lost his temper three times last season, twice leading to violence. First, Talib attempted to maim Donald Penn with his helmet but missed and belted Torrie Cox in the face instead. Next, an August incident in a taxi cab led to the State Attorney putting Talib in anger management sessions as a part of a diversion program. That came after Talib went wild on a defenseless cab driver from the backseat of a taxi while it cruised down the Interstate.
And Talib followed that up by cursing out Raheem The Dream in October in a heated hotel lobby confrontation in England.
It is because of these facts that Joe thinks Raheem The Dream is wrong and downright reckless for making fun of Talib’s Mike Tysonesque voice in front of reporters.
Raheem The Dream has done it twice now since training camp started. It’s there for all to watch on video on Buccaneers.com.
In the news conference videos, Raheem The Dream is all smiles and giddy imitating Talib’s high-pitched voice and getting chuckles from the media throng.
Joe is sickened by this behavior from the head coach.
Hey coach, you’re playing with fire. Find someone else — anyone else — to poke fun at.
The harsh reality is that it would be very easy for Talib to get second-hand word of the head coach making fun of him publicly, misinterpret Raheem The Dream’s motives and comments, and then absolutely do something dangerous, stupid or illegal.
Raheem The Dream himself, if he stopped and actually thought before he spoke, should know better.
Be your best self, Rah. Be smart. Don’t poke fun at the team pit bull and not expect trouble.
Talib needs all the help he can get to get through a full year without problems so the state will drop the charges against him in the cab driver case. That’s not over. One more legal problem and Talib could be bounced from the diversion program and land in court, so the State Attorney told Joe months ago in an exclusive interview.
Joe writes this in hopes of stimulating change, because Joe cares about the state of the Bucs and thinks Talib deserves better.
Joe sincerely hopes that Bucs new media relations guru Jonathan Grella, a man extremely savvy and intelligent, has already addressed this with the head coach.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Wow you and I took the mimmicking of Talib entirely different…… I don’t see the danger in him having fun like that… Talib has been with Coach Morris since he came into the league so he probably knows how he jokes around…..
August 6th, 2010 at 8:14 am
When he talks like Talib , can you actually understand what he’s saying???
If so , he should talk like Talib all the time.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Has this Grella guy showed up for work yet, or what? Doesn’t seem like much gets ” headed off at the pass” by this guy! Yes , it would be nice of your Football people knew the right things to say. But they ussually don’t, which is why teams hire these professional liars, to help our football guys stay politically correct( lie). So, why isn’t this grella doing his job? He should have coached Morris into a smooth guy by now!
August 6th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Can’t argue with Joe’s logic here. Don’t provoke the beast. Talib has enough of a challenge just dealing with the basic stuff in front of him.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:27 am
C’mon Joe that’s a big leap. These guys are a family and family members have little inside jokes and can enjoy some friendly ribbing. This is a non-issue.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Sobo, lol, what are you trying ta say? Are you saying that if a cab ride is enough to turn talib into a raving lunatic, humor might be a bit more than he can handle? Lol, yeah, think I’m with you on that one! He doesn’t seem to have mastered “maturity” or “self control”. Well, good thing he can play CB for a few years. That should keep him out of the penal system until( hopefully), he wises up!
August 6th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Joe, how many high ranking Bucs officials read these posts\comments? Give us a number.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Just listened to the presser twice and nothing about the voice or the story he told which included an actual quote from Talib which was his reason for talking like him in the first place was the least bit offensive to me.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:50 am
bucfanjeff:
How many people does Team Glazer employ at One Buc Palace?
August 6th, 2010 at 8:52 am
That’s what happens when you hire a coach that’s almost the same age as the players. I hope I’m wrong but I think this is going to be a long, long season.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:58 am
I enjoy this kind of debate very much Joe. @sgw94 This has nothing to do with how you or I or any fan perceives Morris’s poking fun at Talib, it’s how Talib might get word of it and lose it because he got the wrong idea. When does it cross the line? Why even go there with a loose cannon. Talib’s probably been made fun of his whole life because of that voice. Maybe one time it strikes a nerve and it f’s up the Bucs season.
I think the Trib or the Times just wrote a story on Talib working to keep it all under control but his teammates weren’t sure he was over the hump. I think that’s what it was.
I agree with Joe. It’s a bad idea no matter how innocent.
August 6th, 2010 at 9:07 am
@Kennedy
Get word of it? Its a story about something Talib told Coach Morris on the field during a lightning delay that was retold to a room full of journalists with cameras running and is now in a video on the Bucs website. I guess if Talib never reads any newspapers or ever goes online and his teammates and no fans ever mention it I guess THEN he wouldn’t get word of it. Not likely. But the point is there wasnt anything offensive about it in my opinion. In fact other than a southern accent there wasnt much change in Coach Morris’ voice that I could tell. I imagine its possible Talib could be offended by anything under the sun butI dont see how quoting him using his southern accent was a big deal.
August 6th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I just hope he keeps his helmet on a tether this training camp! Seriously, I have to agree with Joe on this one.
August 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am
No big deal.
August 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Joe, I seriously think you are over analyzing a non-story
August 6th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Joe’ver Analyse a story? Noooo!
What I think Joe is trying t say is this:
Unstable Talib could potentially feel like he is being made fun of ‘through the media’ and unstable Talib may let it fester and bother him.
It is no different than that poor kid with no sense of humor being picked on. Everyone knows the picking is just joking, but that crazy kid just can’t seem to stomach being the butt of the joke. Then he blows up and everyone laughs.
Talib has shown behavioral similarities to THAT sensitive kid.
August 6th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Well said Javier. Bravo.
As I said in my previous posts, I have ZeroExpectations of Raheem. He will soon have Tampa knee deep in yet another chaotic season.
August 6th, 2010 at 10:15 am
The Dream can imitate Yosimite Sam if he gets the team to 9 dash 7.
Wait a minute, maybe he is already doing that?
The Nipsey Russel version anyway.
August 6th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Joe, I read your entire article waiting to get to the point where you said:
“Ha, got you. I am just kidding”
Joe is “sickened by this behavior from the head coach.” What??
Joe, I think you have been out in the training camp sun too long. 🙂
August 6th, 2010 at 10:29 am
The only thing better than an article about a Raheem Morris press conference is an article about a Raheem Morris press conference AND Talib’s violent tendencies!!
August 6th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Damn it , I have zero expectations that someone as dumb as you will quit writing post as stupid as as yours! “I have zero blah blah blah!” the pathetic part is that I know you think that dumb crap is funny!
August 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Wow, talk about a non-story….
August 6th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I agree with zero. I hope like hell there is more to Coach Morris than meets the eye. Just listening to some of his interviews it sounds as if he’s in a bit over his head. I guess we will find out in the next couple of months.
August 6th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
This has to be a blog post to get the sites hit count up.
No other options.
Silliness I tell you.
August 6th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
There has got to be some better stories coming out of training camp then this.
August 6th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
as usual, its you the media trying to start things and make up your own stories, you guys try to use these athletes as puppets for you guys sometimes, its rediculous, i don;t think raheem would change his mind, or maybe he is sorry for having a little fun, being humorous, not hurting anyone, even though your trying to make it that way, talib hasnt even said it bothers him, wait for his reaction before you make up stuff
do you just want him to be a robot
oh know i bet ronde will be mad cause raheem dissed his one on one int right in training camp
oh know i bet vincents mad, cause raheem “made fun of how big he is” right
oh know i bet gerald mccoy is mad cause when a reporter said he was walking around here with a presence, and raheem replyed i hope so, all that pressure huh
this article is crap and mostly made up garbage
otherwise that though i love this site, but this was your worst article ever
August 6th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Jordan:
Sincerely, thanks for the compliment (in your last sentence). Joe understands not everyone will always agree with him. Joe just tries to provide thought-provoking content with a few laughs sprinkled in.
Appreciate the feedback and your continued support.
August 6th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
As much as I want Raheem to succeed, he is proving himself unqualified to be a head coach. Not that everyone didn’t already know that or anything. Morris is shooting himself in the foot with stuff like this.
Is is already viewed as an underdog. If e just stopped talking he wouldn’t look so bad at times.
August 6th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Um Jordan……. you told Joe “…but this was your worst article ever”.
Now I have said time and time again that I am no English major being a prodcut of the Wimauma educational system and all, and I also don’t proof read my comments (see my typos), but Jordan, I must say this about your comment:
Now hear me loud and clear (notice my now the K is silent): This was your worst COMMENT ever!
August 6th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Oh Jooooeeeee….. did you ‘steal’ this story???
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/2010/08/06/pat-donovans-deep-fried-sports-enough-about-the-catwalk-impressions-of-and-impersonations-at-bucs-camp/
August 6th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
“…Joe is sickened by this behavior from the head coach.
Hey coach, you’re playing with fire. Find someone else — anyone else — to poke fun at…”
You can’t be serious…
Talib makes a joke about watching Black in the weight room, and Morris recalls/mimicks him and that ‘sickens’ you and equates to playing with fire?
1. They’re closer than that…
2. They will be going to war together…
3. Completely different story if the opposition is doing it.
4. This does not help JBF’s overall credibility with the team and probably detracts from the media’s reputation/relationship with the team…. Because it’s nonsense. I’d rather read nothing at all than stuff like this JBF.
No offense intended.
And for fools who think this type of stuff ‘proving himself unqualified’ by this tongue and cheek tease of a team mate… Ever been in the military? Ever played organized adult sports? *shakes head at the ridiculousness*
ah well,
/rant.
August 6th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
FYI skip to the 6 minute mark…
August 6th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Raheem’s quote was at the 10 minute mark… sorry. The Bucs comments started at 6
August 6th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
And after hearing this, the actual comment, Steve White is correct.
August 6th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Javier:
You really should think a little before lodging such a charge. That Creative Loafing article was posted nearly three hours after Joe posted the Talib article.
Come on now…
August 6th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
I agree 100%. Don’t pick on a the guy who could be a pro bowler as long as he stays together mentally. It is just adding fuel
August 6th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
You are right again Joe. My bad. In fact, you can edit that comment out, but not the link.
Raheem is funny though. On so many levels.
Maybe it’s true, we need Raheem to level with these players.
August 6th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Joe Says:
August 6th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Javier:
You really should think a little before lodging such a charge. That Creative Loafing article was posted nearly three hours after Joe posted the Talib article.
Come on now…
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I seem to remember some brilliant commenter who suggested using a time stamp for your posts. Now, who was that again???
-Me
August 6th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
FIRE GREG OLSON!:
Who pissed in your oatmeal? You are overtly bitter and angry today? What gives?
That damned Creative Loafing video was posted after you already kvetched about Peter King this morning!
August 6th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Joe, It was probably Mr Olsen, whom pissed in FIRE GREG OLSEN’s oatmeal. Although, I feel he is more of a frosted flake kinda guy! LOL!
August 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
I love when Rah imitates Mushmouth, the character from Fat Albert…..no wait , that’s his real voice !! My bad…
August 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
You solved it Mushmouth!
Hey, hey, hey! It’s Fat Albert
And I’m gonna sing a song for you
And this is gonna show you A thing or two
You’ll have some fun now With me and the gang
Learning from each other
While we do our thang na, na, na
Gonna have a good time na, na, na
Gonna have a good time hey, hey, hey!
Thats just what Rah told joe this morning!
August 6th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
hey javier with a silent j, honestly this is my best and worst cause its my first, first of all get used to no puncuation and capitals
second. if you were spell checking which i wasnt you should have noticed rediculous spelled wrong and a few other typos, i never re-read, ill make those mistakes here and again and i didnt “know” i was going to be spell-checked
but honestly i know hoe to spell now, to be honest with you, i was a little stoney bologna when i did this and in a hurry for work, but i was going for oh no, not oh now, which is actually a little funnier but they do sound the same
all in good fun man, and i wasn’t really trying to tell joe, it was more an attack on the media who makes up problems that don’t exist and uses these athletes as puppets for their (like how i used their instead of there) charades, however i didn’t like joe trying to get talib wound up, hes been doing good, and we need him for the future and to not get in trouble while hes in this diversion program, cause if he does, court and then suspension, and i missed tanard alot last year(its actually amazing the numbers he put up in just 12 games). plus im sure talib doesnt care and probably complimented him on how close his impression was, “its too cold in here dawg”, “forget practice, lets go watch quincy black lift weights back in the weight room”
August 6th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
and to joe, right on man, im glad we can be normal people and agree to disagree sometimes, but i just started looking at your site, i love it, i love the training camp updates for people who can’t be there in tampa. i wish i could go tomorrow night, go bucs always
the media in general although good, just grinds my gears sometimes, like the most recent perfect example, the barrett ruud thing, he didn’t talk to the media for a few days after penn signed, and the reporters were all more worried about the drama with that then they were the football side of this team, cover the football, thats what we care about, not the media trying to create drama on their football team and ours, they just go overboard sometimes, the drama and media trying to create drama does not interest me, im more interested in how been is progressing and if cody grimm is going to make the team and maybe start in that ss spot in the future, id rather have the media ask repeatedly about erik lorig’s training camp then barrett being mad over the contract, but thats me
in saying that i do hope he has a good year back in a more familiar and comfortable scheme and then we probably should resign him, do you think they might be seeing if hes going to make some splash plays and if not give quincy a chance to take that role, hes the same size, and more physically talented, hes probably not as smart as barrett but i dont know that, just a guess
August 7th, 2010 at 1:34 am
Jordan:
Thank you so much for the kind words. Please tell your Bucs friends about Joe!