Breaking Down The Bucs
August 13th, 2010
With the Bucs first preseason game mere hours away, Anwar Richardson of the Tampa Tribune joined the Hebrew-sounding “King David” Show on WQYK-AM 1010 Thursday with co-host Toby David. Richardson covered all sorts of things Bucs.
Toby David: Who is standing out at Bucs training camp?
Anwar Richardson: Interesting about training camp so far is that they the Bucs have not gone live that much, meaning they have not gone full-speed at each other. They have pumped the brakes on that. They’ve gone live a few times, at the night practice at the stadium, for example.
They are more interested in getting quality reps [in practice] rather than going full-speed all the time at each other. But by doing that it’s somewhat difficult to judge who is standing out and who isn’t.
If they are going full-speed, you can see guys break tackles but at half-speed, eh.
We need to see them at full-speed going at each other. I’m still unsure how good this team will or will not be just going off of training camp.
David: Is that a mistake on the Bucs part, not going full speed because of the young guys?
Richardson: No, only because you have the risk vs. reward factor and the reward is more reps for Josh Freeman. He only played in nine games. He needs to get more reps. The last thing you want is for him to get hurt [in a preseason game]. That is the thing that can get a coach fired.
Most teams will pull starters after the first series or so. You don’t need somebody for the Miami Dolphins to go UFC at Josh Freeman and go all Brock Lesner. How do you explain that to the Glazers?
David: Tell us about the left guard battle?
Richardson: It’s a close battle. Coaches were not that happy with [Jeremy] Zuttah’s performance last year. That’s not a surprise. Keydrick Vincent brings a dimension to this team, mean, nasty, “We will run it on you,” throw the middle fingers up, we don’t care. He has that swagger and if he inserts his will and gets bullish, that caught the coaches’ eyes.
Zuttah has stepped up. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. Very close battle right now.
David: Tell us what you are seeing on special teams, such as the punter Brent Bowden.
Richardson: Richard Bisaccia is very hard on the players but they love him because he is fair. I have not seen Clifton Smith much, he’s nursing a hamstring. Not seeing him on the practice field and other guys are getting reps, I’m curious to see, with his injury and two concussions… he’s the most dynamic guy as far as kick return but we’ll see if he has the opportunity to come back or not.
Bowden? We will have to see what he does on Saturdays and Sundays. He has no one to compete against. The Bucs need a punter.
The special teams have always been a good, solid unit. It’s an area with a least amount of injuries.
David: Are Brian Price and Myron Lewis not going to Miami?
Richardson: The rookies need to get reps. Price was expected to compete for a starting job but right now he is way too far behind to complete for a starting job. Myron Lewis, there are high expectations of him but when you are nursing a hamstring injury, those are tricky sometimes. If you push it too much you do more damage. It’s frustrating to spend high draft picks on guys who can’t play. It’s not their fault. Their bodies are telling them not to go.
Price was a luxury pick who now cannot play. It’s frustrating.
David: To see [Maurice] Stovall on the depth chart as opposite of Mike Williams, he has never done anything. Clayton and Benn are fourth and third string?
Richardson: I’m not surprised at Stovall. Kind of expected him to get an opportunity. Maybe the light bulb has clicked? Interesting about Clayton, he’s not fourth string. There is no fourth string. After the third string the category is “Other.” I don’t know what “other” is. I think it might be you should look for “other” team. You can’t have a guy with that salary like that at third for fourth or fifth string. He’ll have to do more than block. Unless he is totally, totally, totally standing out in preseason, who is going to trade for him? Nobody will trade for him with that salary.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Its almost time guys! Can’t remember being this anxious about a preseason game.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Time to tee up the pigskin!
I agree Gary, should be a most interesting pre-season.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:32 am
First of all, what makes this Anwar Richardaon guy from the trib an expert? TBO actually has a section called ask the experts, as if Anwar, Roy Cummings, and the other guys are experts! Ha! They have such poor and slanted columns that I have been forced to JBF for news both animated and extensive, positive and negative. Joe’s not afraid to tell the story straight, and that’s what keeps people coming back. Joe’s sponsers want Joe to talk Bucs non-stop in every light, while the TBO marketing staff are still live in last century constantly worrying about who they are gonna offend. This is what separates the news of the now with the obsolete news paper press.
Thank God for the internet and Joe Bucs Fan!
August 13th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Now, about the playing time of Freeman and the young guys.
The Buccaneers NEED THE YOUNG guys to PLAY as much LIVE football as possible.
Sitting them in fear of injuring them just to save the interim coaches job is a about a stupid, unprioritized reason as there is.
Who cares about Raheems job. Get the players some reps. Josh Freeman hasn’t EARNED the right to sit out of pre-season games. The rookie needs God damn work with his WRs for Christs sake.
Sitting the young guys is so Raheem can keep his job? In fear of injury? WTF? Talk about priorities being out of order.
Freeman needs to play, real live football, and not just for a series or two. This is downright ridiculous.
If Raheem REALLY wanted to save his job then he would take the necessary risk to get Freeman experience, snaps in live action, so that Freeman will show improvement when it counts.
You know what, I am actually caught between a rock and a hard spot here. On one hand I almost demand that these coaches handle the youth development correctly so we won’t have to see them suffering in game that count any more than can be prevented. BUT, on the other hand I’d like to see Raheem fall flat on his dumbass face too. So maybe I shouldn’g care, sit back and laugh at all the dumb sh1t he does, only to watch him suffer during the season because his starters aren’t prepared.
But I can’t do the latter because I don’t care about being right and saying I told you so. I want the Bucs to eventually win again. I want to see the players develop the right way. The time to make mistakes and get on the same page ARE NOW in pre-season. Because the last thing I want to see is Josh Freeman jogging back to the sidelines after yet another 3 and OUT smiling, and not taking those missed opportunities to heart.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Thanks for the kind words Javier. But Joe believes the TBO crowd does a fine job.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:28 am
I understand having friends in the local media and all, I just recall while being away in the military, in the past, and the only Bucs media seemingly available was the trib. I didn’t try to find others either.
But I just recall over the years just how worthless and slanted their bucs coverage was. I find it ridiculous that the Tampa area primary news outlet to be so slanted yet its purpose was to provide news to the masses in the area. In my opinion, large monopolies that provide information on such a large scale to so many people have an ethical responsibility to tell the whole story, and not one that influences their hidden agendas.
A journalist has that responsibility when put in a role of a major local media news outlet. And if those journalists don’t show bias, then I and I’m sure many others lose all respect for them, evem as people. Because they basically lying to push their perspective.
Now surfing around to the various websites, this day and age, it is taken with grains of salt and almost accepted. But being a part of a major local media outlet like the Tampa Tribune, serving the greater Tampa area, I find slanted news completely irresponsible.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Oh oh . . . Did Anwar just report that the coaches were not happy with Zuttah last year? My goodness, did Anwar just say it was not a surprise 🙂
August 13th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Javier,
your last few posts completely illustrate why you are the type of fan this team does not need right now. Come back when the sailing is smooth!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Javier n Wimauma is a nerd with a small PP we all know that…poor guy never been to a game just watches on his 19” sd tv
August 13th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Richardson: You can’t have a guy with that salary like that at third for fourth or fifth string. (about Clayton)
Me: You can if it’s gauranteed money. We cut him, we lose his blocking skills AND his 3 mill. Better to keep him or trade him.
Would rather see Stovall go myself. It’s not like Benn isn’t here to completely replace him.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Looks like a couple of the premium selections from the greatest draft class of all time are a little behind the eight ball concerning any impact this season. (Price, Lewis)
And Benn can’t beat out Mo Stovall? Mo Stovall?
Are you kidding me?
August 13th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Eric, you are a TRUE FAN . . . of yourself (and Gruden). You are gloating against the Bucs interests? Great.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Jimbuc,
Ill bet BM would have beat out Mo Stovall!
🙂
August 13th, 2010 at 11:51 am
JOe has addressed this in the Vincent thread below.
Joe, no response on Anwar’s comments on Zuttah? Well, at least no response here. What gives Joe? Yesterday you said there was “no evidence” that the Bucs were unhappy with Zuttah (even though Vincent is obviously evidence). Today you post an excerpt from the interview of Anwar Richardson where he says:
David: Tell us about the left guard battle?
Richardson: It’s a close battle. NOTE THIS — Coaches were not that happy with [Jeremy] Zuttah’s performance last year. That’s not a surprise. — NOTE
Joe . . . you got some “esplaining” to do . . . 🙂
August 13th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Eric — sorry, not going to engage. Waste of time. You are the king of all trolls. Sad that you spend time on JBF rooting against the Bucs. You must be lonely.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
JimBuc, Dang it man, give it a rest with the Zuttah crap. It’s getting OLD!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Don’t make me take away your recess priviledges or your blanky at nap time!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
LOL. Too funny Joe. You commented on the Vincent thread as follows:
“Richardson saying this does not qualify as it doesn’t come from the Bucs.”
Richards is a reporter, so true he is not with the Bucs, but he says the “coaches” were unhappy. Joe, that is two different outlets stating the coaches were unhappy. You say different. Oh well. . .
Joe, since you CLOSED the comments on the Vincent thread as soon as you responded to my comment, I will close the comments from JimBuc. Joe, I leave you in the capacble hands of Eric, Rahdom (also known as Javier), Tampa2 (also known as Mr. Madoff), Thomas and the rest of the lunatic fringe.
Farewell.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Joe here,
JimBuc – You’re always welcome and appreciated. But Joe can’t have you slamming his reputation here and relentlessly misrepresenting what Joe is saying. You can do that to others here, but Joe is not anonymous and needs to police it when he is being misrepresented, and Joe doesn’t have the time or energy to do that all day. We can have back and forth, but it can’t go on endlessly without Joe giving up and ending comments on a thread. Nothing was censored, just ended. Big difference.
You’ll be missed.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Last word is your privilege because it is your website, so if you choose to use it to suggest that I am “relentlessy misrepresenting what Joe is saying” so be it.
Like I said, you are in good hands Joe . . . 🙂
August 13th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Eric:
Celebrating the fact that Brian Price/Lewis have been out with hamstring tweaks and Benn needs more time to learn the offense……even before they’ve played their first preseason games so he can call them busts.
Dude just wants to be right soooooooooo bad…Looooooza
August 13th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
JimBuc, Come man, I was teasing about your blanky. I won’t take it at nap time, honest!
August 13th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Guys don’t worry about the haters rooting against our team so they are proven right, we have had this discussion many times before. Just better to ignore them.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Gary:
Way, way, way early to throw Benn under the bus. The Bucs are giving Clayton how many years… how many years has Stovall been allowed?
Benn hasn’t played his first game yet and he’s coming from one of those gimmicky spread-option offenses which is a far cry from an NFL offense. Give him time to adjust.
Joe’s way too much of a cynic (for his own good) to fully swallow a depth chart released in the second week of August.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Im not labeling anybody a bust.
Takes time to learn to play in this league, as evidenced by Sapp’s and Lynch’s early struggles.
However, I am not the one who stated these guys would have an immediate impact. That distinction belongs to our GM.
Plus, I am not rooting against anyone, my remarks track exactly what this article said.
Jimbuc, you are the one that engaged me, all I stated were facts. As usual you respond to facts or opinions with insults.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
@Gary
You don’t like my comments because I don’t like the trib? Or because I question Raheem not playing the young guys for fear they may get hurt and for fear that Raheem may lose his job? LMAO at you dude. You don’t like what someone comments because you don’t agree with it? LMAO 🙂 Waaaah!
And yes, Raheem is a mistake. Enjoy watching him bring this team into season 2 unprepaired.
You are LUCKY that guys like me point out reality to fruitcakes like you. Its the only way you are going to be able to deal with the inevitable. Because you know damn well the Bucs are gonna suck, but not because of the players, but because of YOUR favorite coach Raheem Morris.
Just remember, at the end of each Sunday, it is guys like you who are reinforcing the Glazer brats decisions to cut salary and bring in inexperienced coaches and management just so they can pay their Man U loans. Thanks for enabling the Glazer brats! Thanks idiots.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Javier…Did you think he ran them too hard last year, just curious? I think they need some live action as well, but there has to be a middle ground. I think you also busted on Price for going too hard, or was that Eric? You ask who cares about Morris’ job, I think you know the answer to that…the guy calling the shots.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
javier, it’s obvious you havent thought this out completely. if freeman stays in the game longer that means the entire first string needs to stay in the game. thats not going to happen and it would do him no good to take snaps behind the 2nd string oline
August 13th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
IMO the starting o-line needs some work for three series or so also, especially if they are breaking in a new guard.
K-2 and Caddy should stay on the sidelines most of this pre-season.
The only thing I am sure of is that Clayton is bound to catch a touchdown!
August 13th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
JimBuc . . . Don’t leave this site. There are a lot of great Buc fans Here- Lakeland Bob, McBuc, BigMacAttack,rustyRhino, and lots of others. But only you are willing to be a warrior against the infantile, idiotic, hate filled “slow Squad!”. Your endurance in taking the fight to those Boneheads is a thing of legend! You and I have had a few epic arguments of our own, but I think you exemplify what is best about this site. Giving up isn’t your style . You are a loyal soldier of the pirate Nation! Battle on!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Goodbye Micheal Clayton three weeks away Yes Yes Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Jimbuc will be back.
Probable will go watch some soccer modeling and relax, get his batteries recharged.
The thought if the regular season approaching probably has him all wigged out, knowing deep in his heart another fiasco is around the corner.
(c’mon Jimbuc, you can’t let that go!)
🙂
August 13th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Eric- lol !
August 13th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
The first string offense and defense needs to play, we have a young team, too young. They need to play and truely don’t warrant the baby treatment that is given to real vets.
Guys who can sit early:
Barber
Winslow
Vincent
Ruud
Talib
But that’s about it.
Everyone else are babies.
If the online needs to stay in 3-5 series for Freeman, the so be it.
At least by next game these guys need to be playing a quarter.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
I would agree that the rookie WR’s should probably play a little while longer in all of these games. For the most part though the 3rd game will be when the starters get to play for an extended period of time. Do you honestly think that having our 1’s going up against other team’s 2’s and 3’s is going to help them all that much? You’re assuming that just because the guys are out on the field that it is going to automatically make them better. Preseason is for weeding through the bottom half of the roster.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
OKay….gohh,
JimBuc, I’m sorry for all the bad things I said about you.
Now, Go Bucs!!!! tomorrow night! Yea!!!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
gotbbucs…I agree with you post.
Also, we do need JimBuc back.